This is where generalities aren't that helpful because we have the data and we know now (have for a long time actually) that it depends on who you are as to whether or not COVID is better or worse than the flu. Overall, COVID does appear to be more lethal than the flu, but it's hard to know exactly how much more lethal because it is tra…
This is where generalities aren't that helpful because we have the data and we know now (have for a long time actually) that it depends on who you are as to whether or not COVID is better or worse than the flu. Overall, COVID does appear to be more lethal than the flu, but it's hard to know exactly how much more lethal because it is tracked and coded in ways the flu never has been. But we can look at excess mortality and we can subtract what appears to be excess deaths caused by the response to COVID (lockdowns, etc.) and still find the number pretty easily exceeds our worst flu years, such as 2017.
We know that COVID is significantly more lethal than the flu to the old, the morbidly obese and those with existing immunocompromised conditions. Its 2-3 times more lethal than the flu to those demographics. For the middle age and healthy, it's roughly the same as the flu. For the young and healthy is significantly less lethal than the flu.
We should be able to shape responses around these known facts, but that would mean allowing the vast majority of people to go on with their lives be careful around the high risk groups. Instead, the response is to force the young and healthy to shoulder the burden so that the old, the fat and the sick can feel safer even if these interventions don't actually make them safer.
You are not taking into account that the powers that be, the WHO ordered doctors to stand down and not treat covid patients with anything but teh sanctioned treatment, which was Remdesivir and ventilation, which we KNOW killed most of those treated. therefore, we cannot say that covid is more lethal than the flu, but we can say that the treatment used for covid caused mortality. Now we find thast Remdesivir is being recalled, at least that's what I heard the other day. Then we must ask WHY it was the drug of choice of Fact to treat patients said to have covid when the trials of Remdesivir had the highest numbers of deaths--around 45%--of the four drugs that were trialed.
I am taking those things into account. The drive to overventilate definitely killed some people early on in the response. But the WHO has no jurisdiction over American doctors. They were following the advise coming from the WHO and CDC early on because they didn't know enough yet. Never the less, you can remove the early mistakes of overventilation and shipping COVID patients back into retirement homes and it won't put a dent in the rest of the data. Indeed, we saw the difference between the lethality of the flu and COVID in the elderly when COVID ripped through those elderly care facilities like dry kindling, killing that population at rates the flu did and does not.
Remdesivir hasn't been recalled. Some batches of it that apparently were contaminated with glass particles have been. And while there has been some debate over the effectiveness of that antiviral post hospitalization, I'm not aware of anything that suggests it was responsible for killing patients. It's worst criticism, which I believe was early on, was that it simply didn't help. Some studies found it ineffective, but not actually dangerous.
Remdesivir causes renal failure and once the organs fail, the lungs fill up with fluid and of course, once the patient dies it's easy to blame it on covid-19.
Well, we differ in the way we see things and the data we decide to rely on. Personally I am not afraid of covid. The vaccines are another story. You can choose to believe anything you want to. And that is what those orchestrating this coup hope happens.
Not sure what you're talking about. I'm not afraid of covid either. Like most of nature, I do not fear it, but I do respect it and it's risks. The vaxx does not pose the same risk/reward tradeoff for everybody. For the at risk groups, the vaxx may be a better option than risk getting covid. For most, the low risk groups, the vaxx is probably more risky than the risk of getting covid is.
That is your opinion, not mine. I wouldn't go near the vaccines for any reason. But that is what individual bodily soveriegnity is about. My body, my choice...your body, your choice.
This is where generalities aren't that helpful because we have the data and we know now (have for a long time actually) that it depends on who you are as to whether or not COVID is better or worse than the flu. Overall, COVID does appear to be more lethal than the flu, but it's hard to know exactly how much more lethal because it is tracked and coded in ways the flu never has been. But we can look at excess mortality and we can subtract what appears to be excess deaths caused by the response to COVID (lockdowns, etc.) and still find the number pretty easily exceeds our worst flu years, such as 2017.
We know that COVID is significantly more lethal than the flu to the old, the morbidly obese and those with existing immunocompromised conditions. Its 2-3 times more lethal than the flu to those demographics. For the middle age and healthy, it's roughly the same as the flu. For the young and healthy is significantly less lethal than the flu.
We should be able to shape responses around these known facts, but that would mean allowing the vast majority of people to go on with their lives be careful around the high risk groups. Instead, the response is to force the young and healthy to shoulder the burden so that the old, the fat and the sick can feel safer even if these interventions don't actually make them safer.
You are not taking into account that the powers that be, the WHO ordered doctors to stand down and not treat covid patients with anything but teh sanctioned treatment, which was Remdesivir and ventilation, which we KNOW killed most of those treated. therefore, we cannot say that covid is more lethal than the flu, but we can say that the treatment used for covid caused mortality. Now we find thast Remdesivir is being recalled, at least that's what I heard the other day. Then we must ask WHY it was the drug of choice of Fact to treat patients said to have covid when the trials of Remdesivir had the highest numbers of deaths--around 45%--of the four drugs that were trialed.
I am taking those things into account. The drive to overventilate definitely killed some people early on in the response. But the WHO has no jurisdiction over American doctors. They were following the advise coming from the WHO and CDC early on because they didn't know enough yet. Never the less, you can remove the early mistakes of overventilation and shipping COVID patients back into retirement homes and it won't put a dent in the rest of the data. Indeed, we saw the difference between the lethality of the flu and COVID in the elderly when COVID ripped through those elderly care facilities like dry kindling, killing that population at rates the flu did and does not.
Remdesivir hasn't been recalled. Some batches of it that apparently were contaminated with glass particles have been. And while there has been some debate over the effectiveness of that antiviral post hospitalization, I'm not aware of anything that suggests it was responsible for killing patients. It's worst criticism, which I believe was early on, was that it simply didn't help. Some studies found it ineffective, but not actually dangerous.
Remdesivir causes renal failure and once the organs fail, the lungs fill up with fluid and of course, once the patient dies it's easy to blame it on covid-19.
In the trial I saw the data from, Remdesivir killed 45% of participants. It was used to create a pandemic
Well, we differ in the way we see things and the data we decide to rely on. Personally I am not afraid of covid. The vaccines are another story. You can choose to believe anything you want to. And that is what those orchestrating this coup hope happens.
Not sure what you're talking about. I'm not afraid of covid either. Like most of nature, I do not fear it, but I do respect it and it's risks. The vaxx does not pose the same risk/reward tradeoff for everybody. For the at risk groups, the vaxx may be a better option than risk getting covid. For most, the low risk groups, the vaxx is probably more risky than the risk of getting covid is.
That is your opinion, not mine. I wouldn't go near the vaccines for any reason. But that is what individual bodily soveriegnity is about. My body, my choice...your body, your choice.
choice of Fauci not Fact
(sorry for teh typos)