Those of us who are resisters here in the US are watching Germany and the rest of Europe very carefully. Australia of course is the ground zero poster child for the totalitarian launch, with New Zealand and Austria in close running. Mandates are in effect in New York but we expect they will roll out in California and the rest of the West…
Those of us who are resisters here in the US are watching Germany and the rest of Europe very carefully. Australia of course is the ground zero poster child for the totalitarian launch, with New Zealand and Austria in close running. Mandates are in effect in New York but we expect they will roll out in California and the rest of the West Coast. Your question is the question of the day...how will the powers respond to unwilling populations? But if Australia is the test case, we can expect national guard and even army to be called upon. Here in the US, FEMA has already set up camps, of course it was under the guise of aiding those displaced by natural disasters, but we have already heard them being offered for quarantining anti-vaxxers and those who test positive for covid. Being in germany, I find it odd that you can wonder how they can incarcerate the "lot of 'us'" since the remains of mass incarceration still exists there as it does in California, where Japanese Americans once were rounded up and their property seized. Each of us must make a choice and we need each other more than ever. I will share a song with you that fits our situation, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWPjWh_EwBo
Reading all this, and living in Australia, I'm not sure how people are going to take being locked up again.
Just on the weekend my family & I were at a large park in Canberra and we did not see ONE person playing on their phone! People were all talking with each other, playing with their kids and basically connecting with people. This is not how it normally is!!! And this is a city that is like 97% double vaxxed or something; they all willingly rolled up their sleeves. But I think judging by the quiet determination to 'have a nice day out' that we witnessed, people are not going to take further restrictions on their freedom lying down. Even rallies are now regularly occurring all over the country (finally!).
It's lovely hearing people say things about their masks like "I hate these things!" and whipping them off when they come into my treatment room, but the part that concerns me greatly is their reply after I say "So don't wear them! Do you see any police around here?". The usual reply is along the lines of "But you're MEANT to wear them" - and they only don't wear one out of my room if there's no-one in the waiting room.
So perhaps you are right Wendy, I DO live in the Stupid Country. I don't agree with ANY of this covid crap (obviously!!!), but even when you speak logic to most people, they still want to do what is 'right' by government standards, but not what is right by ethical (or even scientific) standards - or even their OWN standards. It's like almost everyone has been brainwashed to think 'I swear allegiance to the government of Australia' - regardless of who the government actually IS! Talk about a broken system.
So, aside from our planned move to northern NSW early next year, where would you suggest people move to in the world?! It sounds like our future is going to be severely limited in Australia (or NZ...or Germany/Austria...) if this totalitarian structure continues...but I do wonder, where MIGHT be safe not just now, but in the future...? Too bad I don't gamble for a living; perhaps I'd have better luck figuring out the answer to this one!!! :-D
I'm still hopeful that we can sort the bastards out right here... the thing about Oz is that the people tend to ignore the government as much as possible and go along with "the rules", for the most part -- but on the flip side, when people DO actually start demanding something (or even polling heavily in favour of it), governments have tended to go along with that. Even better would be if people continue to organise locally and actually elect representatives who can be trusted to stand up against this sort of thing in future.
I do not think any of us can vote our way out of this. Nations are not in control anymore it seems and are following orders from the many headed hydra of Globocap, which includes the WHO and CDC and NATO. world policy is discussed by billionaires that meet regularly to launch plans for controlling the world's people, economies, currency, trade, medical policy. I am not sure why Australia and NZ was chosen by the elites to be the poster child for the clamp down but I listened to Bill Gates early on in March 2020 and he said "Keep your eyes on Australia" and then went on to say "If the first pandemic wave doesn't get your attention this next one will." Here is a story from 2020 from Australia regarding Gates and Scott Morrison. https://tottnews.com/2020/10/08/bill-gates-praises-australia/ I do not think Australians are any more compliant than many other European nations. And, as far as finding a safer place in the world to live (safer from totalitarian tyranny) I'm not sure there is a place except off grid somewhere and I am not prepared nor young enough to survive the elements. The technology to track and trace people has reached the point that this global pandemic was successful and why it has worked so well. If you in Australia can stand up to the authorities, it will give us hope and impetus to do the same. Sorry about all the vaccinating. What have you heard about adverse events in your country? There is some evidence that adverse events have been tracked to specific batches of vaccine and not sure if any of those were distributed in Australia. Are they pushing the boosters there now? I heard someone in the UK say that it's probable that boosters will "be needed" every three months to keep us with variants.
Yep, the government has gone so far as to recently post out letters to everyone urging us all to get boosters ASAP. And people have been getting them, though some are starting to ask questions ("My friend had the injections but still got COVID anyway", and so on). I don't have any hard data on adverse events, only anecdotal things of people dying suddenly and unexpectedly but most of them I don't know well enough to know for certain if they had the vax (though they probably did) or if there was a different known cause of death.
I'm not fully sold on the conspiracy theory of COVID - I totally believe our government is capable of being evil and stupid without a global conspiracy. I'm also not completely ruling out a conspiracy, but I do strongly believe that if there IS such a conspiracy, they are not in control anywhere near as much as they want you to think they are. Ditch the corrupt leadership and get the right people in, and suddenly the would-be conspirators will have a big problem on their hands.
Those of us who are resisters here in the US are watching Germany and the rest of Europe very carefully. Australia of course is the ground zero poster child for the totalitarian launch, with New Zealand and Austria in close running. Mandates are in effect in New York but we expect they will roll out in California and the rest of the West Coast. Your question is the question of the day...how will the powers respond to unwilling populations? But if Australia is the test case, we can expect national guard and even army to be called upon. Here in the US, FEMA has already set up camps, of course it was under the guise of aiding those displaced by natural disasters, but we have already heard them being offered for quarantining anti-vaxxers and those who test positive for covid. Being in germany, I find it odd that you can wonder how they can incarcerate the "lot of 'us'" since the remains of mass incarceration still exists there as it does in California, where Japanese Americans once were rounded up and their property seized. Each of us must make a choice and we need each other more than ever. I will share a song with you that fits our situation, I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWPjWh_EwBo
Reading all this, and living in Australia, I'm not sure how people are going to take being locked up again.
Just on the weekend my family & I were at a large park in Canberra and we did not see ONE person playing on their phone! People were all talking with each other, playing with their kids and basically connecting with people. This is not how it normally is!!! And this is a city that is like 97% double vaxxed or something; they all willingly rolled up their sleeves. But I think judging by the quiet determination to 'have a nice day out' that we witnessed, people are not going to take further restrictions on their freedom lying down. Even rallies are now regularly occurring all over the country (finally!).
It's lovely hearing people say things about their masks like "I hate these things!" and whipping them off when they come into my treatment room, but the part that concerns me greatly is their reply after I say "So don't wear them! Do you see any police around here?". The usual reply is along the lines of "But you're MEANT to wear them" - and they only don't wear one out of my room if there's no-one in the waiting room.
So perhaps you are right Wendy, I DO live in the Stupid Country. I don't agree with ANY of this covid crap (obviously!!!), but even when you speak logic to most people, they still want to do what is 'right' by government standards, but not what is right by ethical (or even scientific) standards - or even their OWN standards. It's like almost everyone has been brainwashed to think 'I swear allegiance to the government of Australia' - regardless of who the government actually IS! Talk about a broken system.
So, aside from our planned move to northern NSW early next year, where would you suggest people move to in the world?! It sounds like our future is going to be severely limited in Australia (or NZ...or Germany/Austria...) if this totalitarian structure continues...but I do wonder, where MIGHT be safe not just now, but in the future...? Too bad I don't gamble for a living; perhaps I'd have better luck figuring out the answer to this one!!! :-D
I'm still hopeful that we can sort the bastards out right here... the thing about Oz is that the people tend to ignore the government as much as possible and go along with "the rules", for the most part -- but on the flip side, when people DO actually start demanding something (or even polling heavily in favour of it), governments have tended to go along with that. Even better would be if people continue to organise locally and actually elect representatives who can be trusted to stand up against this sort of thing in future.
I do not think any of us can vote our way out of this. Nations are not in control anymore it seems and are following orders from the many headed hydra of Globocap, which includes the WHO and CDC and NATO. world policy is discussed by billionaires that meet regularly to launch plans for controlling the world's people, economies, currency, trade, medical policy. I am not sure why Australia and NZ was chosen by the elites to be the poster child for the clamp down but I listened to Bill Gates early on in March 2020 and he said "Keep your eyes on Australia" and then went on to say "If the first pandemic wave doesn't get your attention this next one will." Here is a story from 2020 from Australia regarding Gates and Scott Morrison. https://tottnews.com/2020/10/08/bill-gates-praises-australia/ I do not think Australians are any more compliant than many other European nations. And, as far as finding a safer place in the world to live (safer from totalitarian tyranny) I'm not sure there is a place except off grid somewhere and I am not prepared nor young enough to survive the elements. The technology to track and trace people has reached the point that this global pandemic was successful and why it has worked so well. If you in Australia can stand up to the authorities, it will give us hope and impetus to do the same. Sorry about all the vaccinating. What have you heard about adverse events in your country? There is some evidence that adverse events have been tracked to specific batches of vaccine and not sure if any of those were distributed in Australia. Are they pushing the boosters there now? I heard someone in the UK say that it's probable that boosters will "be needed" every three months to keep us with variants.
Yep, the government has gone so far as to recently post out letters to everyone urging us all to get boosters ASAP. And people have been getting them, though some are starting to ask questions ("My friend had the injections but still got COVID anyway", and so on). I don't have any hard data on adverse events, only anecdotal things of people dying suddenly and unexpectedly but most of them I don't know well enough to know for certain if they had the vax (though they probably did) or if there was a different known cause of death.
I'm not fully sold on the conspiracy theory of COVID - I totally believe our government is capable of being evil and stupid without a global conspiracy. I'm also not completely ruling out a conspiracy, but I do strongly believe that if there IS such a conspiracy, they are not in control anywhere near as much as they want you to think they are. Ditch the corrupt leadership and get the right people in, and suddenly the would-be conspirators will have a big problem on their hands.