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OMG!!! Those are the most unethical, immoral set of instructions I have ever seen. Did Bourla write them?

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I don't like this either! I don't have a degree in anything, but now I wonder if I could have had a career writing text books. I think I could have written something much more cat-friendly!

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Love

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I'll go with option three and report back with my findings.

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Catnip is generally safe and effective

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Fear and Loathing at the Vet?

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Words to live by. With your permission, I'm framing these for my desk.

Funny thing about people and spay/neuter. Where I live, they will spay a female but defend a male's balls as if they were a human's.

Oh wait, that's changed now, hasn't it?

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I think most men have a problem with neutering an animal, because they're afraid someone wants to neuter them. I want my boy babies (animals) to live long healthy lives, so they're neutered. Most do pretty well on the longevity end.

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I'm crossing my legs tight Bandit, reading your post

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😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 You're safe, John. I'm not after you and yours.

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Bandit, instinctive. A guy doing trans thing on tv was gonna get snipped. I was screaming into tv DON'T DO IT

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Aug 1, 2022·edited Aug 1, 2022

Look at it this way, we don't want them reproducing, even if by accident.

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Aug 1, 2022·edited Aug 2, 2022

I agree if it's adults. Those people might not make the best candidates for parenthood, they generally have enough on their plates to deal with. If it's kids, caught up in the agenda of messed-up adults, it's child abuse. These innocent lives are being destroyed. One girl said she was told her breasts could be "put back" if she changed her mind. Oh really? And how about boys...? This movement is evil.

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I agree it's the right decision unless there is a clear intention to breed them.

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Usually my dogs are not purebreds and all of them have been rescues.

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Good for you!! There needs to be more people like you, Bandit! And everyone knows that "poi dogs" have the best brains (at least I think so), as well as hybrid vigor.

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So far, they've been awful darn good babies! We've had close to 20. --- Never have heard them called poi dogs. Poi as in taro root? --- Most have been pretty clever. The smartest one was 3/4 Chow Chow and 1/4 Shar Pei. Beautiful red with golden highlights. I miss her a lot.

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In Hawai'i we call Heinz 57 mongrels "poi dogs" because poi is taro cooked and mashed and stirred up into a paste (the soul food of Hawaiians). A poi dog is all mixed and stirred. Some claim this term refers to the pretty much extinct original Hawaiian dog (which were a food source) but I've only heard it commonly used as a term for mutts. They are known for their intelligence, their strong wills and their survival skills. They will eat anything, and they make wonderful pets.

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She sounds lovely.

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Transcat warns "Don't presume my gender!" before scratching your eyes out.

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Aug 1, 2022·edited Aug 1, 2022

Now they'll carve out your berries And trim your twig right off with little pre-care...

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Or after-care.

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Har!

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Folx always hating on the kitters.

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It's easy to hate creatures which you don't understand.

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It’s easy to hate creatures more elevated than you! 🤣

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As a veterinarian myself who practiced for 40 years , I agree wholeheartedly. Drugs , muzzles, and cat bags save a lot of flesh, blood, and bandages .

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Aug 2, 2022·edited Aug 2, 2022

I'm reminded of James Herriot and the infamous Boris. "Herriot...can wrap a cat!".

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And Augmentin. Saves a lot of Augmentin... for the handler.

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Yes, that is good stuff for those kinds of infections !

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Yes, all those are practical and minimize the time at the vet.

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Well, by God at least they're honest about the odds here

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Big Pharma, drug pushers extraordinaire. Of course cats have a code of ethics! “You leave me alone, I’ll leave you alone. You be nice to me, I’ll be nice to you. You hurt me, I’ll hurt you.” 😼

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If only people were as smart as cats!

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🙌🏼

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Excellent point!

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always treat a cat with lots of regards. most are quite harmless. unless of course, you intend to either bathe them, or take them to the vet. If the vet were like that I would not even think of taking anyone there. but we have a nice vet, who uses his brain !

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If you start out a kitten with regular baths they become very used to them and even enjoy them. I lived on a beach where there were chicken fleas somewhere in the yard. These are surely one of the nastiest life forms the Creator ever thought to make, for reasons I will never understand. They embed themselves in godawful CLUSTERS, oh God they are horrible. All my critters including the cats had to have weekly baths. They got into them.

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Makes me think of Girl with the Dogs on YouTube (she grooms cats, too). She trims the murder mittens first. Mean kitties wear the Trouble Bubble or get groomed in the Rage Cage.

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I had a 20 pound Maine Coon. Really sweet until I tried to get him groomed. Or brush his belly area. 2 experienced groomers called and told me to come get him. He was dangerous they said. I would have to sneak the hair balls off him with quick surprise movements. A treat—snip. Look Taffy over there—snip. Trouble bubble. Lol. I’ll have to look that up.

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😂😂

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I miss him so much. I still cry and it’s been 2 1/2 years. One of the most traumatic moments of my life putting him down. 😿

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Aug 2, 2022·edited Aug 2, 2022

Maine Coons are such special creatures, they really are. I'm so sorry, Janet, I feel for you, it hurts so much to say goodbye. I've lost three beloved furbabies in five years. Still grieving for my Connor, the best dog ever was. He went to the Rainbow Bridge too young. I literally laid on my sofa and cried day and night for seven months after his death. It took over three years for me to just speak of him without breaking down, everyone thought I was mad. Two beloved cats hung around and helped me bear the pain, then they left, too - first one, and then his buddy. Now I have two wonderful street cats that moved right in and filled the void. After five years I have begun to think about a puppy. There is nothing in this world more comforting than the love of a dog. Puppies and kittens help dry the tears, along with Time doing its healing work.

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I had to do the same with my baby boy 2.5 years ago too (he died late January 2020). He was a sweet and wonderful tuxedo kitty, domestic longhair, my best friend for 15 years. Miss him a lot.

I have had several cats over the years (all of them acquired as kittens or young adults and passing on at 14-15 years of age), but this was the first one I had to make the hard decision on. Haunts me still even though I know it was the right choice.

I adopted another cat from the shelter right after that. For me, it helps to get the focus off of what is gone and onto a new bundle of fur and love. She needed a home, and I needed her.

Sorry for your loss, and I definitely can relate. Hang in there.

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Taffy was 14. I took him in as a kitten still on kitten milk. He was my pal. Another kitten came to me around the same time. I had to put Rosie down a year and a half later after Taffy—a week after my closest sister died. Very Rough as well. I’m not ready for another one. My hubby has said no for now and since I never shared the decisions before I’m honoring his request. But cats often find you first. 😻. It’s so hard. Sorry for your losses. I had a tuxedo cat I took in once. She died on my bed. Suddenly one day. Easier that way for sure.

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Oh Janet. That's a hell of a lot of loss in a short span of time. My story, too. My two best friends had died within four years of one another, right before the fur babies. I ended up learning how to lead grief groups. You never know where these things will lead.

Grief is the price we pay for love. Queen Elizabeth I said that, and she knew what she was talking about. I hope the Universe sends you and your husband a new ball of furry love.

It will happen, when you're ready.

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Our maine coon, Jones, is similar, not as violent but a pain. Funny thing is his 'sister' also part coon and mostly feral at that tolerates grooming like a champ.

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grooming cats ! omg that sounds indeed like a death wish

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Trouble bubble and rage cage. I need those.

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I gotta see this rage cage.

I need one

For me

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Boots you really are too funny!

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Oh Lordy! I've seen a couple of those videos. Cracks me up! I love hanging them in the sling to trim the murder mittens! I'd have certain cats heads in the Trouble Bubble most of the time.

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As requested, the Trouble Bubble and the Rage Cage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpPPUlaMfRk

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Awesome! Thank-you! We have a dog that could use the rage cage when he gets mad. I think then it would be called the cooler, so his temper could cool down.

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our dear animals. A constant blessing, that keeps us sane in these insane times. My dog only gets mad when I try to cut her nails. When the vet does it, she is as sweet as a lamb. I would not even try what that lady does with my cats. I might not survive ! How did she even get them in there !!!

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She gets them in there Very Carefully. 😁😉

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OMG. Murder mittens. So true! Those contraptions got the job done.

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thanks ! you gave me a good laugh ! I was afraid the grey cat would attack her, but everything worked out well.

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My fabulous Siberian cat has yet to encounter the vet who can get him out of the carrier, much less weigh, examine or vaccinate him....and that's after a sedative.

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The Russians are tough and so are their cats :)

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Gatito, how do you feel about spay/neuter as a default for family cats?

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And some cats know Thai kick-boxing, I heard.

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No matter how many times I've used drugs and no matter the kind, I always lose cat fights...

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I can't keep up with all these pseudo philosophers, but many ended up on the Index of Forbidden Books, including Kant. Believe in unlimited free speech? Read Syllabus of Errors by Pope Pius IX... Unless , like many, you believe that only speech that should be limited is that of Catholic Church.

I don't know enough of all the poison of pseudo philosophers such as Kant to argue. The suppression of Saint Thomas Aquinas and extremely logical thinking by fake Vatican II church is one reason we are in this mess. Basically, A common idea was only what you experienced was real. John Paul II got advanced degree in phenemonology... Total bullshit. That John Paul, yes

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Doesn’t everyone know these things?

Cats win in a fair fight

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Pretty muddled, anthropocentric thinking. "Ethics" are besides the point: cats are rational creatures; they have interests, they can assess when those interests are threatened, and, like humans, can and will use violence to defend their interests. They surely "consider" their interests in a time oriented way and are fully aware of them extending into the future. Dumb Vets ... before this, I did not necessarily hold that against that Vet degreed big Pharma CEO - Pfizer CEO, right?

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