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Those old-timey doctors were so stupid they didn't know that dirt, freedom, and winter vagina cause strokes.

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I must not be keeping up in the rapidly changing info world. I had to look up Winter Vagina.

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"Pretty much everything exists nowadays."

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And four out of five of them recommended camel filterlesss cigarettes. lol

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HA!😂

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If winter vagina caused strokes, I would have died 30 years ago.

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Winter of death and despair?

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Only for those of us unvaxxed, apparently?

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Last winter was wonderful for me—unvaxxed. I tromped in the snow enjoying nature and continued my art and met with friends. We couldn’t go to see our daughter on the east coast at Christmas because many of the vaxxed got Covid. That was kind of a bummer. No one mentioned the surreal quality of denial stinking up the air between truth and fiction. And who was living in the stinking fiction. 🙄

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nicely put

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Because of the weirdness we've witnessed over the last 2 1/2 years, a little less than a year ago I stopped all prescriptions for my then-12 year old son. Not ONE of his "symptoms" that had put him on various asthma and allergy medicines has returned. Not. One. Yet for years, while on various medications, he constantly had symptoms. About 6 months ago I stopped all of my prescriptions. Again, no symptoms have returned. None. I'm so very very done with the medical community.

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My dad was put on statins at age 82 for elevated cholesterol despite zero evidence or history of heart disease. After being on them six months or so, he developed horrible muscle pain where he would literally call my sister in tears (this from a guy I never saw cry once in my life). Anyone who has done the most rudimentary research into statins knows this is a classic side effect.

I convinced him to stop the statins for a trial and within a few weeks the muscle pain completely disappeared. He's off them completely now and we also got him on a low carb diet. He had been type-2 diabetic for about five years and now he's completely off insulin. His doctor was "surprised" by the results but to her credit she recognized it was working and urged him to keep it up and did not object to stopping the drugs.

Modern doctors have been trained to follow algorithms rather than think for themselves. Unfortunately, those algorithms are written by pharma and captured institutions like the AMA. Those doctors that still have integrity can see what's happening. Unfortunately most are too brainwashed or compromised to speak up.

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Have done the same thing. Gotten off all prescribed meds. Never again.

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I tried various prescriptions in the past and literally ALL of them had terrible side-effects on me, so I never took them long. Eventually I found out about healthy nutrition and then healthy lifestyle, so all my ailments went away with that anyways.

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I've been trying to talk my MIL into doing just this. She's convinced she will die/stroke/cardiac arrest without the meds. But the meds make her feels awful all the time and have caused some very serious side effects. She's had a couple heart attacks and strokes WHILE ON the meds!

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My MIL LOVES meds. She loves the very idea. If there’s a natural solution, perfectly effective and with zero side effects, versus a medicine that helps a little but has some negative side effects, she would opt for the pill. Every. Time. Then she would excitedly take other meds for the side effects caused by the first one. It’s hard to watch.

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She has also staunchly worn a mask, alone in the car, and outside in the fresh air with no one in her immediate vicinity, for the last 2.5 years, so there’s that. But she follows the science.

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My husband is on numerous heart medications (he had a heart attack at 47 and has 8 stents, 5 from the original heart attack and 3 additional ones added last year). I'll admit that I'm not a big fan of him going off of any of his meds. I'm just not comfortable messing with heart stuff.

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As if the peer review, and non-reproducible issues with much scientific research weren't bad enough, it's estimated that about 95% of currently prescribed drugs don't actually work!

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I'm only peeking into this rabbit hole: Early 60s, take statins, blood pressure med and a few more. No (apparent) side effects. I'm -- slowly -- looking into research that supports these interventions. You raise a good point: a lot of medications or other recommendations are probably based upon limited or biased studies. But perhaps there is some research, impartial, large, long-term trials and such, that (say) show that statins provide a net benefit. The trick is to identify the documented successes and to avoid the more dubious, profit-motivated ones.

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This guy has a pretty good substack, here he does an overview of statins.

https://sebastianrushworth.com/2020/07/28/do-statins-save-lives/

Bottom line: Useless if you don't already have heart disease regardless of your cholesterol level. Of minor benefit if you do have heart disease or Type 2 diabetes. NNT is about 55.

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From what I've read, they have yet to find a benefit from the statins. Lots of risk but, try as they might, they haven't found a benefit.

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Oh man, I lolled at "Now Sally, I'm just listening for any signs of climate change." Well done.

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"Signs of guns in your home" would do just as well.

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Strangely, they always seem surprised when you respond "I fail to see how that is any of your business," when they ask about that. I find myself answering "None of your damned business" quite a bit these days... the last time I was to the optometrist I left over half the intake form blank.

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I'm a supporter of the 2nd Amendment. I own two firearms. But it IS a statistical fact that a gun in your home is far more likely to harm you or a family member than defend against an attacker. About 60% of firearms deaths in USA are suicide.

Looked at another way, however: relative to the sheer number of guns in private hands, the risk of death by your own gun is extremely small. This is yet another example of the difference between relative risk and absolute risk.

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I know, perfect, right?

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Gato, you think there is anything to the idea that MonkeyPox is more a side effect of immunodeficiency as a result of the mRNA therapies than it is a novel independent virus?

Edit: Clarifying this. I do not mean to say the MonkeyPox virus doesn't exist, just that under "normal" circumstances it would have an R0 below 1, not circulate and largely not impact people.

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i am not aware of any specific reason to suspect that the current run of monkeypox is related to immune suppression in particular (though i also have not looked at it so i hesitate to say anything terribly definitive.).

what you describe might be possible, even plausible, but i really have no idea how to assess it.

interesting idea though as MP did have an intrinsic r0 in the 0.57-1.25 range

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2022-07/22_0712_st_monkeypox_mql.pdf

but is now being estimated at more like 1.6-1.8.

https://www.who.int/news/item/23-07-2022-second-meeting-of-the-international-health-regulations-(2005)-(ihr)-emergency-committee-regarding-the-multi-country-outbreak-of-monkeypox

that could be immune suppression. it could also be new strains. it could also be just dumb lock that it found a pool of infectees that had unusual behavior that is more conducive to spread.

this last one has been my base prior here as the disease seems pretty disinclined to jump to any other group and if it were mostly strain based or rooted in immunosuppression, you'd expect it to jump groups.

obviously, none of this is mutually exclusive and it could be a combo of risk pool and IS and/or strain, but i suspect that this was predominantly a "found spread vector in a specific community" issue.

i did notice a strikingly high % of people with PM also being HIV+ but i suspect this may just be cross correlation of risk factors in super high partner count sexual transmission circles.

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I heard that the same suspects were testing with monkeypox. ( https://youtu.be/4E6cD-VWhQY ) Add to that Fauci’s research findings on how easy it is to spread a virus in the gay community ( google fauci gay bathhouses, interview w Terry Gross for example ). Could be a bioweapon experiment. Add to that the use of the med called Prep, which HIV+ men take so they do not need condoms ( https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html ). Gee the CDC will lead the community right to the infection, eh? But don’t worry! They’ve got a vax for that! And drugs! Expensive ones.

Unfortunately monkeypox is confirmed in SF via NYC Pride participants who brought it to SF. Now consider that NAMBLA is SF based. Only a matter of time until it gets to SF schools? And the emergency morphs from there …

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With Auntie Nancy's longstanding, unfailing support for NAMBLA, I daresay it's already here.

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I think it is real. It is just that people are wearing their masks in the wrong place.

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Not always…

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Gross question but do the lesions show up where he was exposed to virus?

So when I see the porn star pics of pox all over his mouth it’s because he was performing oral sex?

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Yes. The lesions show up at exposure site.

Brings me back to the dog. Why weren't owners charged with cruelty? Normalizing dog rape?

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Not again. I had to take a junk food bath to get my mind off that pic. Get into the foggy bottom of overdose.

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Pretty much destroyed my morning.

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No. It is similar to Smallpox and Chickenpox and spread by contact with active lesions/healing lesions on an infected person, or from clothing, bedding with which an infected person has been in contact, or via saliva or mucus from the respiratory tract - coughing, sneezing. This latter means that you can catch it from someone before lesions appear. The virus can enter the body through broken skin, via eyes, nose, mouth.

Initial symptoms are ‘flu-like, then a rash develops starting on the face but also can spread more generally including near sex organs and anus.

So, the reports of sexual transmission are misleading in that merely sharing a bed, or a towel, or hugging or kissing or holding hands with an infected person can result in infection so it is not sexual intercourse per se, just the close contact that involves - no evidence it is transmitted in urine or semen - but since sexual promiscuity involves close body contact with multiple others, their clothing, bedding, that explains why it has spread so much among gay men in various circumstances and events.

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What you've said is probably true. I'd add what might be a more important factor: Reduced resistance due to lifestyle. It's no secret that gay men, especially those who engage in multiple partners, are not exactly taking the best care of themselves health-wise. Indiscriminate anal sex alone must expose one to all sorts of bad diseases. Add in poor hygiene, bad diet, hard drug abuse, etc. and you have a recipe for all manner of bad health.

Some of this is covered in RFK Jr.'s "The Real Anthony Fauci."

I suspect the average (non homosexual) person's chance of catching monkeypox is close to zero.

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Damn........are you going to show us nude pics of Hillary Clinton for an encore?

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😋

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If you don't mind, I'm eating...oops, excuse me...

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YES that was a gross question hahahhaa

aaakkkk I need to take a shower now

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Why do they insist on posting pictures of the pox, all around their mouth, on social media?

I mean - we get it - we know how you got it.

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I don’t know and it’s so gross!!

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Looks eerily like shingles to me, and as shingles is a very common side-effect of "normal" vaccines, (and on the list of so-called "side-effects" in psyFizer papers) it's looking, walking and quacking like a duck......just sayyin

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Exactly, side effect!

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Why only gay men and the children and/or dogs they rape?

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A great angle to further pit people against each other and not focus on the big picture or who has actually caused the problem. Probably the narrative grew out of the realization that the gay population in general happens to have a higher than average trust in its idealized perception of benevolent government. They are very convinced that liberal democrats care about them based on past behavior promoting equality, so they've swallowed the lies of the past year hook, line and sinker in dizzying proportions compared to other groups.

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🤮🤮

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Different pathogens can have similar-seeming symptoms.

Shingles also looks like chicken pox, smallpox, & cowpox.

Head colds can be caused by coronaviruses, rhinoviruses & some others.

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True true, and aren't cowpox and smallpox basically the same thing? Interesting coincidence that there are vaxxines for these, lol.

- When I was a teenager, only one elderly person that I knew had ever had shingles; now, it's rampant, and true believers in the cult of pharma seem to be the victims.

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I had chickenpox as an adult and ever since it's been preached to me that I am "high risk" for shingles. As in "1 out of 3 people will get shingles" unless you get the vaccine. Well, I thought about it (getting the vaccine) but when I found out it wasn't cheap I thought about those numbers again and it seems to me that if you turn that statistic around what it is really saying is that 2 out of 3 people will NOT get shingles. I don't call that high risk. Another one that's been pushed on my age group is hepatitis--why? Apparently those of us who came of age during the 60's and 70's did a lot of intravenous drugs, which in the minds of the vaccine pushers means EVERYBODY in that cohort. Not true. We are not all equally at risk. And that could go for a lot of things.

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Hey. I had chicken pox at 24. I am now 52. It seems to me that having had chx pox as an adult means your immune system saw this disease more recently than if you'd had the pox when you were 5. So I think we are actually BETTER off.

Keep vitamin D high, skip the shingles vax. That's what I'm doing.

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I, my bro and sis, our cousins and all our friends had chix pox back in the 70s as young teenagers and none of our generation has ever had a hint of shingles. The many people that I know, mostly younger, who have or have had shingles never had the actual pox...but they all got the vax. I remember when the vax was first launched; I was about 14 years old, and it was being sold to parents as a convenient solution to the potential for having to miss a week or so from work in order to stay home with a child with a contagious itchy rash. Back then, sick time wasn't a benefit that too many people had! The message gradually morphed over the years, moving slowly towards today's relentless propaganda which hysterically insists that children COULD DIE from getting chicken pox! The so-called health care system is 100% weaponized, and there has been FAR too much credibility afforded to these high priests and minions of pharma. it's long past time to leave the cult behind and rediscover how to have actual health, which will never come from inside of a needle.

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It used to be only the elderly got shingles. This is because after you’ve had a chickenpox infection, the virus lives dormant in your body, but your immune system keeps it at bay. In the past, when elderly people lived with their adult children + grandchildren, the CP infxns in children in the home/ community would boost the immunity of the adults who’d already had it. Adults/elderly who don’t get that low-level exposure to CP from others, AND/OR those who have weak immune systems, are then susceptible to shingles. ...Now that we give CP vaccines to children onstead of allowing natural infxn, EVERYONE is susceptible to shingles, even children. According to the book I read on this, childhood shingles virtually didn’t exist before the 90s, when the US put the CP vaxx on the childhood schedule.

Presumably there was also an increase in adult shingles. And that’s when they rolled out the shingles vaccine. Win win for them — they sell 2x the vaccines ...in theory to everyone!

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Some of the trustworthy docs speaking out against covid nonsense have floated that idea. Worth investigating. Which means “The Science” won’t do it. Oh, but he’s retiring in December. Dang. Whom will we follow now?

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1. Follow the current thing. or, 2. Follow the political science which is what they were really following all along. As for me: "I,m going to find a bunch of guys that dress alike and follow them around." (reference from old Firesign Theater album)

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Is that all you think about, picking up things? (And I don't think there are any new Firesign Theater albums, since they're dead.)

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Well, there goes that plan.

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DOCTORS: Bought to you by Pfizer!

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I developed profound, chronic iatrophobia having worked in a hospital for nearly 5 years, then 25 years in the medical supply industry having to deal with them.

Consequently my fear of them is quite rational.

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I would guess you have some interesting stories to tell

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Agreed! John you should start a Substack to chronicle your stories.

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I was very afraid of doctors as a child, but I grew out of it by the time I was a teenager.

After I got somewhat older, I saw the merit of my original opinion.

(Something similar can be said about my attitude towards girls.)

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This time is different (except it never is).

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I wore my "your body my choice" jimbob shirt the other day... happy to report I received more compliments than death stares 👍

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The idiots and sheeple practicing medicine now truly terrifies me. Stay away from doctors and hospitals.

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I think we need to up the preventative care for whistleblowers. Early screening for dirt on the Clintons could save a lot of lives.

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Had a woman at work today tell me I should get vaxxed to protect others. And then said several times, and I'm not shitting you, "The vaccines were never meant to keep you alive but to help your immune system." Wth?

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Ignorance can be remedied with information, but stupid is baked into the cake.

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I need this on a shirt.

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I tried to counter but she wasn't having it. Just kept repeating that line over and over. 😭

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hypnosis; brainwashing; mass formation/psychosis;; dementia...insanity.

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The cognitive dissonance is astounding. Including my elderly mom. She decided her side effects last summer were from getting “ omnicron “ last January.

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Yep. I have a good friend whose very healthy 35-year-old daughter suddenly has an autoimmune disorder that put her in the hospital for a month and almost cost her her colon. They can't put 2 and 2 together.

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I forgot one elderly friend who has one complication after the next, fast cancer.& a 78 year old dropped dead of heart attack, both boosted.

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That's sad. I don't know if the risk/benefit is even worth it for the elderly. My family just got over BA.5, including my 79-year-old unvaxxed mother with COPD. Breezed through it. Maybe for alpha and delta? Not for this, I don't think.

Nurse at my doc's office said they're seeing a huge uptick in cancer and that they're very aggressive.

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I saw my friend the Imaginary Invalid the other day. As always our conversation inevitably came round to her health, or chronic lack of it. "So, how are you doing, C.?" She instantly began the litany of ailments she's endured for the past year, vaxxed as she is to the max. It went on for ten minutes. "...and I was doing SO much better, but then...along came Delta!". Cue the violins. It was obviously an account she had given before, word for word. Aw Jeez. But what struck me was how she said it - with a rueful smile, bright eyes and a happy little sigh, as if remembering some past indiscretion with a handsome rogue in the South of France. So many people are getting off on this, it's truly sick. And they have their own book out now, validating their neuroses. Going to be a bestseller, I'm sure. All of their post-vax symptoms explained as undiagnosed long covid, etc.

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Delta. Sigh. Her mind would fracture if she let herself concider the jabs are at fault.

A former friend of mine has become addicted to taking the tests. She was sparkly eyed telling me about her free test kits.

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I know a few of those people, too. I find their excitement to be quite unhealthy, really can't bear to be around them.

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Her statement is stupid on several levels but strikes me as particularly ironic because all vaccines RELY ON YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM to work. They don’t “help” (ie strengthen) your immune system, they just expose it to a pathogen, in hopes that that exposure will trigger your immune system to react, so that it will recognise and fight off infxn by that pathogen if it gets exposed to it again in the future. It’s still YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM — not the vaccine — that does all the heavy lifting. That is as true for traditional vaccines as for mRNA/Covid vaccines.

That’s one of the reasons it was so stupid to give the vaccine to people who’d already recovered from Covid. What could the vaccine possibly do for you that your own immune system hadn’t already done? Nothing. You’d already had the exposure, your immune system had already successfully fought it off. A vaccine doesn’t give you a stronger immune response, it just provides the exposure.

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This is all something that every child used to know.

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Yes, it's been proven that you will die much better with the vax than without it.

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Legacy Physicians and Legacy Media are the new lunatic fringe.

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“You’ll feel much better after a good bleeding”

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Well, do keep in mind they weren't off-base with leeches; bringing them bad boys back for specific--uh--applications.

Sometimes errors are made in degree of usage of a technique but not necessarily about the principle involved.

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Indeed, IIRC, they are now used to encourage blood flow to reattached and damaged limbs...

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I remember reading, too, about hospitals raising their own little sterile maggots to eat infections from wounds. I mean, if it was necessary God forbid I'd hope I could persuade them to sedate me...

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Oh dog, now you've brought back a teenage memory. Preggers farm dog disappeared...had her pups in a varmint hole. We could hear them, but not reach. I was the only one small enough to fit. Face down in dirt with maggots, farmer holding my ankles. I was able to extract all the pups. One at a time, back down the hole. Maggots had been nibbling their toes, but otherwise they were fine.

It was years...over a decade, really...before I could eat rice again.

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Cue the singing of the Kliban Cat song now...

And thank you. How long before *I* shall be able to eat rice again, starting from now?

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"Nibbles on they tiny feet". Love it!!

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Thank you for sharing my suffering! 😆

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Thank you for sharing my suffering! 😆

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If you've ever considered raising sheep - forget about it. The poor things become fly struck with absurdly small injuries and more often than not have to be put down.

It's too gross to get into any further.

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That's very sad. I never heard of it before...

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The maggots are enclosed in special dressing with a mesh just big enough to allow their mouth parts to get at the dead flesh underneath but keeps the little dears trapped. So no wriggling sensation.

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Yeah, but you know the potency of the imagination, right? Come to think of it, I wouldn't need them to knock me out. Can faint all by myself...

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Perhaps if you gave them names… 😄

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Quite true. Although I've not had the misfortune to witness either of the following first-hand, none of the reports conflict with what I know of natural science:

In some nations where refrigeration is unavailable, meat will routinely have maggots upon it. While it sounds gross, there is a rationale: the maggots only eat the rotting meat. When a "clean" cut is needed, the maggots are moved aside and the desired cut is sliced off, and the maggots are replaced.

In a "survival" situation, if someone has a serious wound, if maggots can be located, they are placed into the wound, for similar reasons. They help keep the wound cleaner.

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Flies are attracted to open wounds to lay their eggs in. Fly larvae (aka maggots) don't need to be found. Their parents will find your sound. Just don't shoo them away! 😵😵🤣

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Seems my comment lacked the proper attribution:

“You’ll feel much better after a good bleeding”

- Theodoric, Barber of York

https://youtu.be/edIi6hYpUoQ

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I should have "good bladder control is crucial" on autofill...

Wonderful start to my morning. Ah, SNL in its full glory. Haven't watched it in at least 25 years now. Some of us were lucky to have been young at the very best time...

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Truth. Leeches are back. Maggots are being used again, too, for necrotic wounds.

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See my comments on that...

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That is still a thing. Called "therapeutic phlebotomy"

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Hemochomatosis... yep..it's needful to donate and get rid of them excess iron

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I left medical research and spent 4 years training to be a medical herbalist because I saw the way mainstream medicine treated my parents.

I vowed that none of my loved ones would be subjected to the symptom-supressing drug-pushing system that is mainstream medicine again.

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OMG and here I am blathering on, telling you about hawthorn and rosemary! Forgive me my arrogance.

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Heh I love people telling me about hawthorn and rosemary.

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" Hold up...I need a consult" *flips through " Pearl Clutching Today" and What Plebes Really Need" *

"Ahhh yes! I have your diagnosis , drugs, and diagnosis codes right here! We'll proceed immediately "

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diagnosis codes*

All about the money.

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Yeah, buddy!

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Ah!! Where can I get a subscription to "Pearl Clutching Today" -?!? Christmas shopping solved!! The perfect gift for all of my sisters. Thanks a bunch!

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I don't think that reference was meant to be a source of humour.

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No...it certainly was

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I'm here to help! Glad I can be of service...will that be charge or direct gold deposit??

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How are you with BTC?

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I get concerned with EMPs, both solar and human generated.

Hmmmm... ' Plebes' is a long running( millenia) list from Elite institutions...but ' Clutching ' is an almost daily updated, fashionable, and psychologically damning endeavor to/for/with its readership. One cannot downplay its import within the Venn Diagrams of Needful Knowing in Society.

In fact, I'm thinking of taking the offer from Psychology & Gulags Today... so this fine publication may not be available to Plebe...I mean the public.

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As a result of the monetary incentives built into the healthcare system, they are more party apparatchiks than they are healthcare providers.

It is the same effect that has ruined the Western education system. The teachers are more devout party members than they are educators. I.e. the stated purpose of the organization has been usurped by some secondary party-related endeavor (indoctrination in this case).

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