The defense suggested here at least seems to be a variation on it. "We cannot be held responsible b/c you (the govt) knew we are degenerate liars and saddled up anyway."
I had to chuckle when I read that. We can not be kept accountable because the government knew about the fraud... might be better to trust Al Capone than the government then ?
Katherine Watt's Substack (bailiwicknews) is one of the most intriguing out there. She has done more work than anyone I know on actually doing fact and resource filled legal analysis. You will not be disappointed in subscribing.
Last line possibly "Then sent to the showers"- but still possibly too subtle for the Covidioti (a lovely Italian word I learned last week, it really rolls off the tongue.)
Covidioti! I think the word should sweep across the world and be adopted! A modern Italian contribution to international language. Promoting! At every intersection possible! Thanks! ...Covidioti...
Double wow! Thank you very much for the link to this excellent, historic and very detailed assessment of how they "legalized and funded the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. government and the American people, through a massive domestic bioterrorism program relabeled as a public health program."
And all the failed medicine they kept promoting knowing very well they 1. did not help and 2. probably did a lot of harm. As to Moderna, they never made anything that worked. Why would they make something that works now?
This is a lawyer's dream. There will/should be tons of class-action lawsuits around the world - Big Pharma, CDC, FDA, NIH, Fauci, Doctors, Nurses, Hospitals, Employers mandating the illegal injection of an unapproved substance, etc., etc., etc.
Or maybe there will just be one Nuremburg 2.0. I hope "I was just following orders" is not a valid defense.
Surely, there's no other ending for this shameful period in history.
"the lesson they learned was to buy off more important people to keep from getting caught." That might better be expressed as - The lesson they learned is that they will never be held accountable. They have no concern whatsoever re "getting caught".
No company executives ever face prosecution or jail time in big pharma fraud cases. As Wall Street corporate felons are do not. Fines mean nothing to these criminals; prison time would.
Iceland put their bank fraudsters in prison. There were demonstrations by the people all the time. We are lawless now. Except for the 99%. We pay. Privatize the profit—socialize the loss.
I mean, I expect contempt from them, generally. But is it too much to ask that they just don't spit in our faces? They already do it, into the food, behind our backs...
Decades ago I read a novel where servants were doing that out of revenge, and I never quite got over feeling a little unease, generally speaking, of what might happen because of factory accidents...
In general, it's very poor idea to tee off the people what cooks, cleans and does chores for you.
Even feudal or ancient overlords knew that - the old texts have numerous mentions an cautions about treating your servants and slaves well, without forgetting who is master and servant.
All it takes after all, is one disgruntled person with a blade - someone with nothing to lose. Memento mori, as they said.
Fab find you cats are fab hunters! "The expert reports, unsealed Monday in a federal court in Boston, add to accusations that the pharmaceutical industry has controlled the flow of clinical research data, blurring the lines between science and marketing."
They probably felt a bit sad and hard done by back in 2008 and then they promoted these vet character and all was well, like the cattle he produced 'vaccines' for.
The difference being that 14 years ago we at least embraced the notion of concern, whereas today we're not even allowed to broach the subject for fear of retaliation.
The lesson that Pfizer (and other Big Pharma) learned from history was to invest heavily in the mass media. That investment has so far paid big dividends.
I hope Pfizer goes with the Scorpion and the Frog defense.
they'll drown in legal costs...
I’m praying for that.
Me too! With a millstone around their necks.
I'd like to see Fauci, Gates and Bourla in prison, dropping their soaps in the shower.
Repeatedly!
Think they annually spend about $1 Bil on legal expenses…
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-whistleblower-lawsuit-fraud/
The defense suggested here at least seems to be a variation on it. "We cannot be held responsible b/c you (the govt) knew we are degenerate liars and saddled up anyway."
Pretty much the Animal House defense: “You f*cked up, you trusted us.”
I had to chuckle when I read that. We can not be kept accountable because the government knew about the fraud... might be better to trust Al Capone than the government then ?
I was born and raised in the Eastern bloc and thought our rulers were bad; turns out that they don't hold a candle to these criminals!
By contrast, I miss those times!
Hola Ingrid from La Frontera! 💓🙏🏼
Bingo!
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
Katherine Watt's Substack (bailiwicknews) is one of the most intriguing out there. She has done more work than anyone I know on actually doing fact and resource filled legal analysis. You will not be disappointed in subscribing.
yes that is a really good one. Subscribed last week.
I am somewhat wary of opening this because this gramma age person is probably listed as a domestic terrorist !
after opening, found out that not the old granny, but grampa in the wh and a lot of others in that building are the domestic terrorists. Yeah Bandit !
Me three.
Picturing T-shirt design. Successive lines read:
National Security Threat
Senior
Healthy
No meds
No shots
No papers
Shares wrong opinion online
Should be rounded up, roughed up, tattooed, shoved into a camp, starved and put to hard labor
? (last line = “?”)
Too wordy?
It would take the normal IQ level people too long to read it. 😉😏
Yeah, too wordy for a goldfish.
The other idea, a riff on establishment’s oxymoronic “health emergency” :
Since when is health an emergency?
...Would probably go over the goldfish’s heads...
might be for a blanket ! Tshirt will be too wordy indeed!
Last line possibly "Then sent to the showers"- but still possibly too subtle for the Covidioti (a lovely Italian word I learned last week, it really rolls off the tongue.)
Covidioti! I think the word should sweep across the world and be adopted! A modern Italian contribution to international language. Promoting! At every intersection possible! Thanks! ...Covidioti...
You an me both, Ingrid. 😕
Double wow! Thank you very much for the link to this excellent, historic and very detailed assessment of how they "legalized and funded the overthrow of the U.S. Constitution, the U.S. government and the American people, through a massive domestic bioterrorism program relabeled as a public health program."
Subscribe, it's free to all, and look into some of her in depth research on these and other laws. She's a phenomenal investigator.
Wow! Thank you.
You're more than welcome! Subscribe, it's free to all.
Then pass it on. 👍
Incredible resource thank you Bandit!
You're more than welcome! Her substack is free to all and she has been researching some of those laws in depth lately. It is a wealth of information.
Corruption only happens in movies and Mexico
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
*Dope slap!
What was I thinking? It could never happen here.
Such a comfort @Harry, thank you for jolting me out of this imaginary world I thought was REAL!
Agreed
And all the failed medicine they kept promoting knowing very well they 1. did not help and 2. probably did a lot of harm. As to Moderna, they never made anything that worked. Why would they make something that works now?
That depends on what you mean by "worked"
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/moderna-reports-revenue-2021/
haha you got me there. I mean worked in the sense of 'helped', 'healed', 'prevented'. But yes, it certainly 'worked' i n other ways !
they missed that cdc/fda were accomplices that allowed wretched design of experiment, no safety data and erroneous end points...
This is a lawyer's dream. There will/should be tons of class-action lawsuits around the world - Big Pharma, CDC, FDA, NIH, Fauci, Doctors, Nurses, Hospitals, Employers mandating the illegal injection of an unapproved substance, etc., etc., etc.
Or maybe there will just be one Nuremburg 2.0. I hope "I was just following orders" is not a valid defense.
Surely, there's no other ending for this shameful period in history.
Zero, I agree and for once I wish there were MORE lawyers!
I had to laugh but by God, it’s true
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
Subscription is free to all. She does phenomenal investigations into these laws.
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
"... just following orders" has already been used.
I was thinking maybe "I was too stupid (or senile) to see this."
The issue isn't if they learned their lesson or not, it's what lesson did they learn.
Unfortunately, the lesson they learned was to buy off more important people to keep from getting caught.
"the lesson they learned was to buy off more important people to keep from getting caught." That might better be expressed as - The lesson they learned is that they will never be held accountable. They have no concern whatsoever re "getting caught".
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
No company executives ever face prosecution or jail time in big pharma fraud cases. As Wall Street corporate felons are do not. Fines mean nothing to these criminals; prison time would.
Iceland put their bank fraudsters in prison. There were demonstrations by the people all the time. We are lawless now. Except for the 99%. We pay. Privatize the profit—socialize the loss.
It's a good thing Pfizer recognized the error of it's ways back then and has since steered towards the path of righteousness.
Oh, and pigs can fly.
With a banner out their porcine arses reading “safe and effective”
Experts are now in agreement on the need for speedy trials and very harsh, medieval punishments meted out to pharma executives.
Paging Marcellus Wallace...
I'm sorry but the only trial better than (Warp)speedy is no trial, because we already know that the shots are "Safe and Effective."
We peons get the medieval punishments
they also cheat at monopoly
I mean, I expect contempt from them, generally. But is it too much to ask that they just don't spit in our faces? They already do it, into the food, behind our backs...
It's okay. We can put ground glass in their food behind their backs.
Decades ago I read a novel where servants were doing that out of revenge, and I never quite got over feeling a little unease, generally speaking, of what might happen because of factory accidents...
In general, it's very poor idea to tee off the people what cooks, cleans and does chores for you.
Even feudal or ancient overlords knew that - the old texts have numerous mentions an cautions about treating your servants and slaves well, without forgetting who is master and servant.
All it takes after all, is one disgruntled person with a blade - someone with nothing to lose. Memento mori, as they said.
Yes indeedy. I'm always in awe of the courage of people who piss off their waiter or the fast-food employee. Such stalwart heart I do not have.
Well said!
Fab find you cats are fab hunters! "The expert reports, unsealed Monday in a federal court in Boston, add to accusations that the pharmaceutical industry has controlled the flow of clinical research data, blurring the lines between science and marketing."
https://web.archive.org/web/20081210021500/https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/health/research/08drug.html
“ Pfizer’s tactics included delaying the publication of studies…”
They probably felt a bit sad and hard done by back in 2008 and then they promoted these vet character and all was well, like the cattle he produced 'vaccines' for.
That was truly grotesque....and they kept pushing that bovine concoction
The difference being that 14 years ago we at least embraced the notion of concern, whereas today we're not even allowed to broach the subject for fear of retaliation.
We've come a long way, baby.
The lesson that Pfizer (and other Big Pharma) learned from history was to invest heavily in the mass media. That investment has so far paid big dividends.
I believe they learned to massively invest in government as well.
https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program
Yup!
Those pesky experts