well miss gabriella, i can certainly see how spending that kind of money on your education only to have you emerge unable to read a clinical study or assess outcomes data or in a meaningful fashion would upset your parents!
it must be even worse when they see you be unable to avoid making generalization fallacies from specific instances.
that’s a tough combo.
i mean, if someone told me i was “anti medicine” because i maybe did not want to take fentanyl to cure a sore throat, i’d feel pretty bad about putting them through med school too!
maybe you can get a refund?
do you think that might make them feel better?
Maybe Medical School should now be called Advanced Pharmaceutical School
This should make everyone feel better..
For every $1 spent on “basic research,” Big Pharma spends $19 on promotions and advertising. Source: BMJ
Or this…. https://www.propublica.org/series/dollars-for-docs
A THOUGHT……..Maybe States should pass a Medical Transparency Law.
It would require all Hospitals and Doctors to place in clear view in their reception area a listing of any and all payments that they have received from Big Pharma. Included are grants, reimbursements, product bonuses, speaker fees, endowments, etc, etc,etc. Showing who received it, how much, and when from which Big Pharma.
I have been a physician for 40+ years. I have felt totally ashamed of the medical profession over these past 2.5 years. The lies that have been propagated over this time have been astonishing. Nothing, I repeat nothing, is 100% safe and effective. Natural immunity is not recognized. It’s ok to vaccinate pregnant women despite not being included in the trials. I could go on and on.
All hail the all knowing medical student
medical students, trained by pharma from day 1, fed data at such a fast rate that there is no time to assess.
critical skills classes cancelled
nutrition classes- maybe 6 hours
arrogance and superiority classes not needed
I am posting tomorrow about the state of the noble profession. Based on the ~20 doctors I know it’s not pretty.
well, she is vaccinated FOR COVID, not against COVID, so there you go. I expect her to get covid and be surprised.
I'm not an MD, but I've heard from some MDs in the past that the extent of vaccine education in medical school is not much more than learning the vaccine schedule and for what disease. There is almost nothing taught about the data and science.
I had an MD acquaintance confront me about why I wouldn't take the Vax. Oddly, she didn't even consider individual Risk Assessment as a starting point. She did not know the data re RR vs AR and couldn't speak to the study design, AE's and study endpoints. Having worked in Pharma (marketing) for 40 years, I knew the study design and that 95% effective was BS. The knowledgeable MD who believes more in Pharma than one's own immune system was the uneducated one.
I went to school for nutrition in 2000. We had a study called "research methods," where we were taught how to read studies and taught how one can manipulate studies. We were also taught the FDA is bought. For 22 years, I have been mind blown how many doctors I know (and I know a ton) don't know how to read a study or don't even try to read studies and how they have no clue that the regulatory agencies are captured. I'm grateful for that class to this day :)
One of the big things I've learned during the pandemic.. Very few people are good data analysts or curious enough to do their own research. They rely on their credential or somebody else's. I do my own research and also read with interest the work of others who show their work now. Why would we expect a medical professional - to be a good data analyst? They seem to be very rules and memorization oriented people by nature. Not a bad thing, but that doesn't make them curious and analytical.
The reason to get vaccinated against anything is to make you immune to it so you don’t get a specific disease. Taking a vaccine which does not make you immune and stop you getting the specific disease, even makes you more likely to get it, is, apart from futile, beyond stupid.
As a public health issue, to promote a vaccination programme on the grounds it helps reduce spread of a specific disease is valid, to promote a vaccination programme that not only does not prevent spread but increases it has a motive other than public health.
Claiming that a vaccine which does not provide immunity but makes the disease less serious if you get it, when thousands of vaccinated do get the disease seriously and some die, is a false claim and merely a smoke screen to hide the uselessness of the vaccine and the stupidity or embarrassment of anyone taking it.
My son is in medicine and absolutely couldn’t wait until he qualified for the jab!! Was furious that my husband and I refused to take it. The conversations were belittling and rude. We finally had to just agree to never speak about it (or politics) ever again. When we both came down with COVID last spring we didn’t even tell him until weeks later. And hen he actually asked if we would get jabbed after waiting three months! I guess he doesn’t believe in natural immunity. It’s sad to be so disappointed in my son. 😕
She writes as if she truly believes there’s no medical topic she is not now expertly qualified to speak about, she is after all A MEDICAL STUDENT.
67,000 liked it? Must be lotsa snowflakes out there. With 50 yrs of surgery under my belt, triple boatd certified (general, vascular, cardiac) i can tell you - stay away from medical people like this girl. She is not just clueless- she is dangerous. Would have lasted about a microsecond in the residencies I attended. Obviously se hasn’t studied Jenner and the milk maids. The Jab is not a vaccine- it is an experiment in genetic manipulation. This girl must have skipped the mRNA lectures
They pumped my dad full of pills and when he’d finally had enough and wanted to stop taking them THEN they got concerned. He died in September of his own choosing, unvaccinated with his loved ones holding him. I don’t do doctors and therefore I don’t do meds. I don’t need to live forever, just the best way I know how.
Blank faced silence every time I respond to a doctor's question about why I am pure blooded with 'please tell me what percentage of the people in the placebo group in the Pf*z*r trial never had a "case" of COVID?'
This is just another example of why rebellion against COVID mania has largely not come from students. They have grown up in a system that rewards conformity and compliance wrapped in a veneer of #resistance to make them feel righteous in the permeating grievance culture. They cannot tell nonfiction from fiction, hedonism from moral righteousness, wisdom from knowledge, propaganda from information, friend from enemy, and even their own identity from a passing fad.
I'm not very old and grew up the same way. I believed the vaccine propaganda right up until about May of 2020, when everyone was praying for the blessed vaccine, which we couldn't possibly have enough safety data on in a few short months. Then, I woke up and finally saw what my mom had been complaining about for so long.
How do we get people to begin to question everything they thought they knew? For me, it was when things were getting rushed. When the normal rules and regulations that were supposed to be keeping us safe we're ok to cut through. Perhaps pointing out these inconsistencies will wake up others. The Floyd protests did it for some, the change from mask to no mask to mask did it for another group. What new inconsistency will arise? When it does, we better be hammering on it until that knell is the only thing that can be heard.
Going into massive student debt to learn Rockefeller medicine... Stay away from government health professionals, your life depends on it.
If I had the talent I'd write an essay about how medical school is an unholy cross between a trade school (nothing wrong with that) and a cult (is something wrong with that).
how did all the unvaccinated people not die in 2020?
To quote my long-gone mom who once said to my 21 year-old self, "I never knew how stupid I was until you went to college."
Yeah. Tellmeabouddit. Our son graduates from med school this spring. Has had three jabs. His father and I and sister have not had one. My impression is, he has told himself a fairytale in order to remain in the doctor club. He wants a residency job in the end. Its tragic.
This girl IS medicine tho, you can tell by her underscore-med twitter handle and the thousands upon thousands of Likes that she gets from her fellow cultists.
The grammar is admittedly terrible, but her ability to stay on topic and gather her thoughts into coherent and objectively true statements also requires a great deal of revision.. That last sentence doubtless should have been: "As a medical student who looks to automatons on social media to validate her feeeelings rather than looking to the established physicians who've been doing this shit professionally for decades and happen to practice actual medicine instead of pill-pushing sickcare and carrying out globalist agendas for kickbacks and fame..?"
Her parents sound AWESOME! lol. I'd like to meet them.
Medical students are among THE most gullible groups of individuals in the world. They have to be. They have to believe everything their professors tell them in order to incorporate a century's worth of information and make it into a useful algorithm. They are firm believers in appeals to authority-that of their professors, and really anyone above them on the pecking order of acquired medical knowledge including interns (shudder), residents and attending physicians. You know the aphorism: Fake it until you make it? That is the motto of every single person involved in learning medicine. This is why you never want to be in a teaching hospital in July of any given year.
This naïf dismisses her parents' collective life experience, deliberative thought processes, belief systems, and sense of personal responsibility for their own decisions. Do you think for a moment that this young fool will respect her patients when the time comes for her to actually practice medicine? This top down authoritarianism has been ingrained in these students from Day #1. They can't help but continue the cycle of abuse. With time most of us learn to break free of this.
I hung up my spurs at the end of 2020 for a variety of reasons. I might have kept going for a little while longer but I could see he writing on the wall. I knew that mandatory jabs were on the way (just like they have been for yearly flu shot). Had I stayed long enough to decline these I would have left under a cloud of disapproval. I might have been reported to the increasingly totalitarian medical boards and had my license suspended. I got out just in time.
What's happened to the medical profession over the past 2 years is as if the majority have reverted to gullible, silly medical school days. Think about that for a moment.
As a medical doctor, I tend to agree that Gabriella may be undereducated at this point. Perhaps there is hope that a few years of experience outside academia will allow a more seasoned perspective. Also, it a bit unseemly for a mere medical student to assume the pretense of infallibility as is so often seen in the profession.
I've had 3 docs tell me to get the vaxx. None of them bothered to offer any data to support, except one who showed me the age stratification of those who died and said I was on the cusp of being high risk at age 60. I of course already knew that because I read and think. I really don't think most of them know anything about this stuff other than what they are told. And we know for a fact they have had their licenses threatened if they tow the line. I've lost faith in MDs. Pilots seem to be the last bastion of professional competence. How long before they get compromised?
She should learn to respect her elders: knowledge may come from books, but experience and wisdom comes from age.
The most adamantine, hive-minded people I know when it comes to Covid are those in the medical-healthcare complex. Maybe it's something about that whole memorization> regurgitation> standardization thing that starts in Chem 1A freshman year and continues through residency, and into their jobs at now mostly corporate medical group employers? I know an MD who vaxxed her four girls under the age of 8 because she had a young patient die of Covid. If that isn't the most absurd case of the power of the cult vs. science/statistics I don't know what is. She thought I was nuts for shunning the vax at my 'advanced age' (69) even though she knows that it is how healthy and fit you are--not simply your age--that defines your Covid risk. Well, I got Covid last month and she was surprised that I beat it in 7 days with only C, D3, zinc, Quercetin, and aspirin. Now she still thinks I should get vaxxed. Unbelievable.
"don't believe in medicine" what an absurd statement.
"You don't want to take an experimental injection that's utterly failed in it's primary purpose, might be achieving the opposite and it has the worst side effect profile of anything ever? What are you, anti-medicine?"
Employers already check inappropriate posts before hiring folks. Maybe this will be a new benchmark for the smart ones, who saw the data, analyzed it and avoided the jabs to the best of their ability. Whereas this young lady has the same credibility as a tiktok dancer.
Doctors can be some of the dumbest smart people around. I had a check up with my cardiologist and asked him his opinion on the vaccines and myocarditis. He said that the vaccines were very safe and that he had read multiple studies about how low the risk of myocarditis was. He said the risk of myocarditis "is literally 1 in 500,000 - about the same as getting stuck by lightning".
I asked if he had seen any cases in his patients and he said, "Yes, I have only had 8 cases bad enough to require hospitalization."
Now I didn't go to Med school, but I did pass High School Algebra and even stayed a Holiday Inn once. If the risk in 1/500,000, then he would have to treat 4 million patients to have 8 cases, no? (8/4,000,000 = 1/500,000). And that's not even accounting for the fact that he was only talking about the cases that required hospitalization - I asked him "any", which implies that he had other cases that didn't require hospitalization.
You can take my word in relation to this subject. I taught in a medical school for 34 years. I TRIED to teach my students to be critical readers of the literature. But the system teaches them to become "guideline followers". And of course, the "guidelines" are dictated by "experts" who receive $$$ from Pharm. So, poor Gabriella believes that being a medical student qualifies her as "informed". It is terrible.
Two major problems with doctors:
1) they are usually not critical thinkers. They become doctors by memorizing and doing what they are told.
2) They are arrogant
Don't be surprised. As a BC doc with decades of experience, "[I ]have never expressed more disappointment or disapproval over a decision" by most doctors to support an experimental gene therapy that was "approved" without proper testing and that is injuring and killing thousands. My colleagues are morons and cowards. They are incapable of independent thought and are afraid to even recognize adverse events let alone report them. Yes Gabriella, you are "uneducated" and worse.
Tuition paid by Pfizer….sooner or later
You don't have to be able to read a clinical study. You just gotta believe.
I am medical school faculty. I have commented on this before. Many medical students are smart and see through much of this. As with the regular population there are those that just go along. And, because admission standards have been largely deprecated to make the two most important criteria for medical school admission demographic group and Social Justice Warrior score, the intellectual ability to discern anything from anything is lacking for a substantial number of medical students now -- something that would not have been true 20 years ago.
This is why all medical schools have been ordered (or lose accreditation by the worst organization out there -- the LCME) to go to pass/fail -- then they can just pass at whatever secret score they wish. Of course, to keep this covered up, they have also changed board exams to pass/fail as well.
I would pick my physicians from the over age 45 cohort if I were you. My class has sworn a pact to care for each other until the last of us dies. There is a reason for that.
Passing a law that prohibits Pharma from advertising on TV, medical journals and paying med schools to 'test' their products and finally from giving the CDC, Fauci and the government - including 'campaign contributions' will stop their influence. Next pass a law where they are liable for their medical malpractice would be nice.
It's hard to explain how perplexed the past 2.5+ yrs have been to me. Likely, I'm just ignorant. I've been in drug development for 30 yrs; over a decade spent as research scientist at PFE, another decade at ABBV/ABT, plus another decade at two top notch biotechs in cell and gene tx w/ 21 approved NDAs and BLAs in my quiver... I've compared, side by side, the quality, non-clin, and clinical reviews from just 5-10 yrs ago to the "therapies" available now for COVID. How we abandoned well recognized standards, simple biostats, AE/SAE assessment, trending, pharmacology, toxicology, biodistribution and definition of clinical efficacy so quickly and blindly, is just beyond comprehension. Retirement can't come soon enough; can't wait to get out of this circus and fret for what is going to be considered the 'standard' in future...
What's really depressing is that 58.6k actually liked that woefully uninformed tweet. I left a reply pointing out it was sad that her education was only teaching her how to be beholden to big pharma, not to think critically or do her own research. It won't matter diddly squat that 58.6k people agreed with her when/if she discovers that her immune system has been damaged or she can't have children.
Immediately what came to mind was the advice I often see posted about Covid to 'ask your Doctor."
What makes them think "your Doctor" does any more research than watching Fauci and Walensky on CNN? If so where does he go, the secret web site the 'truth checkers' use? What are the chances 'your Doctor' has ever even heard of el gato malo,, Dr. Chris Mortensen, or "Covid conspiracy theorist Alex Berenson"?
well, I took 6 years of nursing school in the 70's. I learned a lot of pharmacology and immunology, and a lot about vaccines. They were not pushing flu vaccines back then, bc pharma had not seen the windfall of $$$$ potential for government funding.
Anyway, most people do not understand leaky vaccines. I am not a nurse anymore but I do read a lot, and continue to learn. Mainly because friends family strangers and neighbors all ask for free medical advice. I give it freely. This girl should be ashamed for disrespecting her parents on twitter. That is crass
"I'm a doctor not a mathematician"
I was Pre Med and spent 2 years in medical school in Italy. Glad I didn’t finish but it gave me a proper perspective on all this I probably wouldn’t have if I had not gone down that path. It’s not just about intelligence, it’s about the ability to discern. You have to have both but the latter is probably more important than the former.
More a matter of not being naive than being educated. Any reasonably intelligent person who does a little homework will reject injections employing a radical new technology with no medium or long term testing, not to mention a dreadful short term safety record, which have now proven to be ineffective...no special intelligence or expensive training required.
Nice job, gato. She took down her twitter account
First of all she's using a fallacious argument. Basically an appeal to authority. Just the other day I was reading a comment from a nurse that posted on Twitter that seemed like she was absolutely blindsided by the fact that she now has myocarditis after being vaccinated. How does a nurse not understand that myocarditis is a real possibility with these vaccines? But....but.....but...she is a nurse.
My favorite quote about science by Richard Feynman "Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty -- some most unsure, some nearly sure, none absolutely certain."
Ahhh, medical students....a combination of much needed altruism and all too much ego. A second year medical student does not know about vaccines and vaccinology because it is not taught in medical school. I learned about them during my public health masters education. Was it biased? Yes. It was not until the past 2 years that I learned about the system we have in place that develops, authorizes, regulates and monitors their safety. That system pretty much sucks. A newbee medical student won't know about that. They will only know about the cool mRNA technology and any of the narrative their medical school teaches them. It is unlikely any professor of medicine or pharmacology will discuss vaccines from a nonbiased neutral stance like the pros and cons. Not these days. They risk losing their job. So, we have no balance in the system to teach young doctors in training, like Gabriella, to think critically and look at the trials, data and independent studies. Of course any studies published on vaccines are distinctly biased because our medical journals are heavily funded by pharma ads.
If a medical student, like Gabriella, want to be a surgeon she had better toughen up. Its still an old boys club and there is no room for whining, mistakes or lack of judgement. I know, I trained at one of the harshest surgical residency programs.
Doctors do not generally get good statistical training. They struggle even with very basic probability and data analysis. That became manifest during the pandemic, but was already well-known before: