Umm, the trials have already been underway for two years. I would be happy to point them to the safety data to save them the trouble of conducting sham trials in a last-ditch effort to exonerate themselves.
I was prescribed vioxx years ago for some tendinitis. Fortunately, I decided to read the listed side effects and they were bad enough that i said no thanks. As Robin Williams once said " thats not a side effect, that's an EFFECT!"
Every.single.time. a drug ad is on TV, everyone should tune into the list of possible side effects they rattle off at top speed. It's chilling. I can't imagine why anyone agrees to take any of these drugs they advertise.
I was a t a friends house (I have no TV) when the propagated a nail fungus med. One of the possible side effects was death. I think I would prefer the fungus and treat it with vinegar or peroxide
That's what I did when prescribed statins 20 years ago. No thanks to those, too. Perhaps big pharma is catching on - when you rush an experimental drug through, they "haven't discovered" the side effects yet so can't list them, can they.
Yeah. I can't take statins (joint pain, severe nausea, etc.). My cardo guy tried them all. My only allergic reaction at that time was a BP drug called Procardia. Found out that it and statins were in the same family of calcium channel blockers.
Same for me with the bisphosphonates being pushed for osteoporosis. I was prescribed the monthly dose, read the disclaimer pamphlet, and said "no thanks." What made me do further research was that other disclaimers usually said "side effects may include" but this one kept saying "side effects include." Uh-oh. Sure enough, as I discovered, my risk of breakage might decrease from approx 5% (already low and only a "risk") to approx 3.4%, but I'd incur a 30% risk of esophageal damage. No thanks. I'll keep my working esophagus and take my minimal chance of breakage. I also discovered that the action of these bisphosphonates was the equivalent of filling a pothole without first reaming out the crumbled asphalt, or filling a tooth cavity without removing the decayed part.
I also read that osteoporosis is not really a defined illness. The only person I know who had it (bad enough to break a rib when she hit a chair) had been taking prescription meds that caused osteoporosis. So it might well be a man made illness, like so many others
Quite common in post menopause women. Diet and weight bearing can stave it off. But those in wheelchairs are at great risk. My ex had a spontaneous spiral fracture of her tibia. She had been diagnosed via a DXA in 2014 but never did the drugs.
Man made or not a fracture at age 60+ can put you in a wheelchair with an inevitable decline. Get the DXA to check but beware of bis-phosphates.
Thalidomide was marketed to pregnant women starting in 1957 and was removed from the European market in 1961. It probably would have been used a lot longer than that were it not for the bravery of Frances Oldham Kelsey, whom I discuss in this piece:
What I was appalled to discover when I looked this up just now is that thalidomide is *still* being used (just not by parents pregnant or trying to conceive):
“It was approved in the United States in 1998 for use as a treatment for cancer. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. It is available as a generic medication.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide)
I'll play devils advocate on Thalidomide still being used.
There are two isomers and only one caused problems, but they didn't realize that at the time. That's what I was taught in Molecular biology classes in the UK nearly 30 years ago, so treat that with as much skepticism as you feel necessary. (The same classes that allowed me to see through the scamdemic narrative early on).
You are probably correct. However, when they BAN other time proven drugs on that same special list just because big pharma can't get rich selling the old stuff vs new untested dangerous drugs, it becomes a moot point.
I want to see this movie but at the same time all of this is just so scary and heartbreaking at the same time… May the sheep all wake up soon… 🙏🏽😢
Unfortunately, we buried another one last week from the killshot… my best friend’s dad this time… she begged him not to take it… 😱😱😱 Heart damage and dementia got him… he WAS very healthy before the shot… 🙏🏽😢😢😢
I’ve heard about it but haven’t watched the trailer yet—thanks for the link!
How devastating to have lost another one—please convey my heartfelt sympathy to your best friend. She can feel at peace knowing she did everything in her power to try and save him 😿
It’s easy enough to wrap your brain around it when you understand that they (Big Pharma and government) want us sick and/or dead. Then it makes all the sense in the world.
Thalidomide is only prescribed under very specific circumstances. The patient has to swear and affirm over and over that they are not pregnant and not going to get anyone pregnant. Even if you are 80 years old and very sick. Kind of ridiculous is an understatement.
Ivm is much easier to procure for anyone. OTC in some states and in latin America.
Don’t be appalled at thalidomide. It kept my father alive for several years by inhibiting a cancer’s ability to develop the vasculature it requires to feed itself. Thalidomide is useful for a large segment of the patient population.
thanks for that info ! Like other commentors I too am very wary of prescription and even otc meds. I much rather try all available natural products. I have used a gazzilion meds and creams for a rash that seems to react perfectly well to wine vinegar and apple cider vinegar !
I have been on beta blockers since I was a teenager because of vioxx. It's one of the main reasons I didn't want the vax when it came out. After being injured once I'll never just "trust them" again.
I think the trials end at the end of 2023, that is what I reaad at the roll out. Furthermore, it is useless to let THEM check. Maddie de Moray was considered having a stomach ache. The girl is completely paralized to a point she cannot even eat and has to be tube fed. So that is how detailed they work. Do not let the fox guard the hen house !
Jokes are supposed to be funny....these protocols are a sham, window dressing, diversionary smoke screens to evade the truth. Which is of course what you meant...a cruel, cruel deception.
Exactly. Even with a jabbed rate of 90 or 95%, there are enough people genuinely uninjected to do a control study if they really wanted to. That's presumably why they are so desperate to get every last body officially injected.
BUT not conducted in accordance with standard clinical practice, as their contracts did not require that...so yes they've conducted trials and collected data, but what about the excluded people & events/effects?
I've been told by someone who actually managed the clinical trials for Pfi$er that they HAD to rush this, because if they did not, billions would have died of C0VID, since there are no other treatments.
My brother in law just emailed today that he has had a total of 4 jabs now...the original two Pfizers, and two boosters. Oh....and he has had Covid 4 times, but all those jabs kept him from being overly sick. Idiocy squared.
That is the story. That is the power of crisis for using fear to control people and promote hate. And profit. Might as well achieve multiple goals. Create panic and then exploit it.
Images - fine! Gifs - please NO! I cannot read text when there is a gif jumping around anywhere on the screen. I have to hide it in order to view the rest of the screen.
You still can. Look for the three dots next to Collapse below your comment. It will reveal the Edit Comment option, which was presumably smashed in there to help line formatting.
too bad indeed! and i would say the follow up hasn't been great. i have two friends, a married couple, who volunteered as subjects in the moderna trials. they really believe that the technology will have a great role in cancer treatment in the future. i disagree but...
anyway, the husband was in the treatment arm and the wife was in the control group. after two months, the study was unblinded and the wife was offered the vaccine, which she happily took. the husband was so freaked out by the idea of covid that, as soon as he was able, he got himself two pfizer shots on top of his two moderna ones. right off the bat, shouldn't that disqualify him as a test subject?
in june 2021, the wife and her friend from out west came to stay with us for a week. after they left, they continued their vacation and both came down with what was probably Delta. they were both really sick.
the wife went to moderna for blood work (they never told her what variant she had) and they gave her no advice at all. the friend, a single woman, unvaccinated with no health insurance, living on a hobby farm, took some of her horse paste and was better the next day.
the couple again came to stay with us for new year's 2022 bringing her son and daughter in law from london (both vaccinated) and her unvaccinated mother from the mid west. after they left, they all got omicron except for the mother.
i think the wife has had a booster and she was planning on the bi-valent in spite of my urging against it.
Doesn’t matter. They’re “investigating” themselves. You know... the same way chem companies do with the fertilizers that are killing off of the bees, same way they do with the chemicals giving all of us cancer, our children autism, our elderly Alzheimer’s.
We’re thoroughly assfucked. Oh and make sure you grab your ankles and smile during the entire ordeal.
Lost a lot of $ when Celsius and Voyager went to crap!!! I would LOVE to know how deep this rabbit hole goes… Gary Ginsler? DNC? $$$ laundering for Ukraine??? How much ya want to bet Afro boy will get Epsteined?!
It’s F&CKING absurd! Let’s show you how we screwed you in plain sight - make you pay for and watch us investigate your demise. We are looking out for you! Please sign up for our trials! Don’t worry we have meds/vaxs to cure what we caused. All not for free…
Ha. Phizer and Moderna should be flagged by 'Facebook and YouTube FactCheckers' for misinformation. According those 'Factcheckers' ... 'launch trials' should be 'have already been conducted'. Or maybe one of the parties just needs to brush up on their grammar? 🤣 Will post a direct link to a few private FB groups and see what kind of flag pops up.
Vaccines don’t cause long term side effects. Long Covid does. What do you mean you didn’t have Covid, you did but were asymptomatic so you didn’t realise. Anyway, nothing to do with vaccines, nothing to see here, move along.
This is one of the reasons I trust none of the vaccine-believers-now-heretics trying to Substack their way to repentance and reliable-sourcedness.
Anyone not coerced/threatened who willingly took this miracle-of-warp-speed science and is trying to convince me of their dazzling intelligence and integrity--nah.
Just a handful of people have proven themselves the North Stars we need. You're top of the firmament.
If they are studying then it means they intend profiteering from the (ongoing and subscription-based) treatment, which probably won't work but have more nasty effects
Umm, the trials have already been underway for two years. I would be happy to point them to the safety data to save them the trouble of conducting sham trials in a last-ditch effort to exonerate themselves.
this is required by FDA. i think they have 5 years or so before they have to read them out.
these protocols are a joke.
Funny, that's about how long it took for Vioxx to be pulled from the market (https://www.npr.org/2007/11/10/5470430/timeline-the-rise-and-fall-of-vioxx), and it is estimated that the FDA's delay was responsible for around 60k unnecessary deaths (https://www.outsourcing-pharma.com/Article/2005/05/30/Whistleblowers-reveal-FDA-exacerbated-Vioxx-scandal).
I was prescribed vioxx years ago for some tendinitis. Fortunately, I decided to read the listed side effects and they were bad enough that i said no thanks. As Robin Williams once said " thats not a side effect, that's an EFFECT!"
Every.single.time. a drug ad is on TV, everyone should tune into the list of possible side effects they rattle off at top speed. It's chilling. I can't imagine why anyone agrees to take any of these drugs they advertise.
I was a t a friends house (I have no TV) when the propagated a nail fungus med. One of the possible side effects was death. I think I would prefer the fungus and treat it with vinegar or peroxide
One of my wife's meds listed a "rare" chance of sudden death.
"Call your doctor if you experience sudden death"
🎯🎯🎯
And make note that of the 60 seconds that compose the commercial, at least 45 seconds are used to describe the known and possible side effects.
That's what I did when prescribed statins 20 years ago. No thanks to those, too. Perhaps big pharma is catching on - when you rush an experimental drug through, they "haven't discovered" the side effects yet so can't list them, can they.
Right, and they can get emergency use authorization for indemnification while they're at it!
I tell everyone to stay away from statins! Another rat poison… 😱
Yeah. I can't take statins (joint pain, severe nausea, etc.). My cardo guy tried them all. My only allergic reaction at that time was a BP drug called Procardia. Found out that it and statins were in the same family of calcium channel blockers.
Same for me with the bisphosphonates being pushed for osteoporosis. I was prescribed the monthly dose, read the disclaimer pamphlet, and said "no thanks." What made me do further research was that other disclaimers usually said "side effects may include" but this one kept saying "side effects include." Uh-oh. Sure enough, as I discovered, my risk of breakage might decrease from approx 5% (already low and only a "risk") to approx 3.4%, but I'd incur a 30% risk of esophageal damage. No thanks. I'll keep my working esophagus and take my minimal chance of breakage. I also discovered that the action of these bisphosphonates was the equivalent of filling a pothole without first reaming out the crumbled asphalt, or filling a tooth cavity without removing the decayed part.
I also read that osteoporosis is not really a defined illness. The only person I know who had it (bad enough to break a rib when she hit a chair) had been taking prescription meds that caused osteoporosis. So it might well be a man made illness, like so many others
Quite common in post menopause women. Diet and weight bearing can stave it off. But those in wheelchairs are at great risk. My ex had a spontaneous spiral fracture of her tibia. She had been diagnosed via a DXA in 2014 but never did the drugs.
Man made or not a fracture at age 60+ can put you in a wheelchair with an inevitable decline. Get the DXA to check but beware of bis-phosphates.
Smart! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽😁
😅👏
I am almost certain that my dad’s heart damage that led to his death was from this killer drug… it makes me so angry and just sick!!! 😡😡😡
Wasn’t Thalidomide on the market for around 5 years killing and damaging babies before they pulled that one! 😡😡😡
How long will this RAT POISON be on the market before it’s pulled?! Or will the madness just continue? 🔥🔥🔥🔥👹👹👹👹👹👹👹👹🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
Dear Lord help us! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I'm so sorry, God Bless America 😢💔
Thalidomide was marketed to pregnant women starting in 1957 and was removed from the European market in 1961. It probably would have been used a lot longer than that were it not for the bravery of Frances Oldham Kelsey, whom I discuss in this piece:
• “Letter to US Legislators: #DefundTheThoughtPolice” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-us-legislators-defundthethoughtpolice)
What I was appalled to discover when I looked this up just now is that thalidomide is *still* being used (just not by parents pregnant or trying to conceive):
“It was approved in the United States in 1998 for use as a treatment for cancer. It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines. It is available as a generic medication.” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide)
I'll play devils advocate on Thalidomide still being used.
There are two isomers and only one caused problems, but they didn't realize that at the time. That's what I was taught in Molecular biology classes in the UK nearly 30 years ago, so treat that with as much skepticism as you feel necessary. (The same classes that allowed me to see through the scamdemic narrative early on).
You are probably correct. However, when they BAN other time proven drugs on that same special list just because big pharma can't get rich selling the old stuff vs new untested dangerous drugs, it becomes a moot point.
Thank you Margaret… 🙏🏽💖
Have you seen this trailer yet?
https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/watch-trailer-documentary-pulls-back-curtain-died-suddenly/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=wnd-breaking&utm_campaign=breaking&utm_content=breaking&ats_es=965e71c5ae411e9be7e2751b9135596d
I want to see this movie but at the same time all of this is just so scary and heartbreaking at the same time… May the sheep all wake up soon… 🙏🏽😢
Unfortunately, we buried another one last week from the killshot… my best friend’s dad this time… she begged him not to take it… 😱😱😱 Heart damage and dementia got him… he WAS very healthy before the shot… 🙏🏽😢😢😢
I’ve heard about it but haven’t watched the trailer yet—thanks for the link!
How devastating to have lost another one—please convey my heartfelt sympathy to your best friend. She can feel at peace knowing she did everything in her power to try and save him 😿
WHAT THE ACUTAL FUCK!?! WE CANT HAVE IVERMECTIN BUT YOU CAN HAVE THALIDOMIDE?? I just cannot wrap my brain around this.
It’s easy enough to wrap your brain around it when you understand that they (Big Pharma and government) want us sick and/or dead. Then it makes all the sense in the world.
Thalidomide is only prescribed under very specific circumstances. The patient has to swear and affirm over and over that they are not pregnant and not going to get anyone pregnant. Even if you are 80 years old and very sick. Kind of ridiculous is an understatement.
Ivm is much easier to procure for anyone. OTC in some states and in latin America.
Don’t be appalled at thalidomide. It kept my father alive for several years by inhibiting a cancer’s ability to develop the vasculature it requires to feed itself. Thalidomide is useful for a large segment of the patient population.
Wow, good to know, and thanks for the inside info!
Just jaw dropping!
thanks for that info ! Like other commentors I too am very wary of prescription and even otc meds. I much rather try all available natural products. I have used a gazzilion meds and creams for a rash that seems to react perfectly well to wine vinegar and apple cider vinegar !
I have been on beta blockers since I was a teenager because of vioxx. It's one of the main reasons I didn't want the vax when it came out. After being injured once I'll never just "trust them" again.
Roughly the same timeframe for Thalidomide.
I think the trials end at the end of 2023, that is what I reaad at the roll out. Furthermore, it is useless to let THEM check. Maddie de Moray was considered having a stomach ache. The girl is completely paralized to a point she cannot even eat and has to be tube fed. So that is how detailed they work. Do not let the fox guard the hen house !
I believe her name's Maddie de Garay
We have very difference senses of humor :-(
Jokes are supposed to be funny....these protocols are a sham, window dressing, diversionary smoke screens to evade the truth. Which is of course what you meant...a cruel, cruel deception.
The rats passed on the jabs, decided to wait for the human trials
good one
(he 'borrowed' that from a popular meme)
Like Frank, I know a good idea when I steal one
not really. they got rid of the control groups after just 2 months so they can only compare long term outcomes against us!
Exactly. The control group will be other jabbed people.
There are plenty of us unjabbed still around, it's interesting to see how little interest there is in comparing outcomes with a control group.
Exactly. Even with a jabbed rate of 90 or 95%, there are enough people genuinely uninjected to do a control study if they really wanted to. That's presumably why they are so desperate to get every last body officially injected.
Ooh good point!
Exactly. Largest global vaccination trial ever.
https://rebekahbarnett.substack.com/p/the-largest-global-vaccination-trial
BUT not conducted in accordance with standard clinical practice, as their contracts did not require that...so yes they've conducted trials and collected data, but what about the excluded people & events/effects?
I've been told by someone who actually managed the clinical trials for Pfi$er that they HAD to rush this, because if they did not, billions would have died of C0VID, since there are no other treatments.
Really. She actually believes this.
My brother in law just emailed today that he has had a total of 4 jabs now...the original two Pfizers, and two boosters. Oh....and he has had Covid 4 times, but all those jabs kept him from being overly sick. Idiocy squared.
That is the story. That is the power of crisis for using fear to control people and promote hate. And profit. Might as well achieve multiple goals. Create panic and then exploit it.
Exactly, nice try at panic ass covering Big Pharma!!!
👏👏👏
Oh how I wish we could post memes directly
https://imgur.com/a/qMZUaAq
i asked for that as a feature when substack reached out to me to see what new dev i'd like to see.
would make the comments so much more fun (and useful) to have images and gifs.
Images - fine! Gifs - please NO! I cannot read text when there is a gif jumping around anywhere on the screen. I have to hide it in order to view the rest of the screen.
Yes! Also embedding Rumble videos would be great! The current video system is awkward and really only works with YouTube.
Only if moderated by the substack owner, I think. Have you seen what complete garbage fills the comments on Parler/Truth/etc?
This audience is far more discerning and intelligent. :-)
I asked for the ability to mute commenter. Because I have self-awareness. :-)
But yours is definitely better.
Hope you're having a chillin' time EGM
https://imgur.com/gallery/EKrwakb
Also, bad cat, I notice the like button is now improved, but I can no longer edit my comments. Would like that feature returned.
You still can. Look for the three dots next to Collapse below your comment. It will reveal the Edit Comment option, which was presumably smashed in there to help line formatting.
In the meantime, you can enjoy my almost-daily memes, largely about the vaxx, but also other political issues:
https://patrick.net/memes
You can also post them to my site. I'd appreciate that.
Ha ha, yes exactly!
Funny! But I had to go to imgur to see it, gross.
Too bad they vaxxed the controls from the first trials, or they’d already have the results.
Will Maddie DeGaray finally get a phone call to follow up on her “abdominal pain”?
Sooner or later, someone is going to compare health outcomes between vaxxed and unvaxxed populations around the world. That data is leaking out.
Hence the importance for Moderna and Pfizer to hijack the narrative first.
Soon Europe will be suing vaccine companies and America will be mandating the shots to go to school.
Yeah, we used to be a world leader…
😡
I hope Arizona LOSES it! No pun intended.
too bad indeed! and i would say the follow up hasn't been great. i have two friends, a married couple, who volunteered as subjects in the moderna trials. they really believe that the technology will have a great role in cancer treatment in the future. i disagree but...
anyway, the husband was in the treatment arm and the wife was in the control group. after two months, the study was unblinded and the wife was offered the vaccine, which she happily took. the husband was so freaked out by the idea of covid that, as soon as he was able, he got himself two pfizer shots on top of his two moderna ones. right off the bat, shouldn't that disqualify him as a test subject?
in june 2021, the wife and her friend from out west came to stay with us for a week. after they left, they continued their vacation and both came down with what was probably Delta. they were both really sick.
the wife went to moderna for blood work (they never told her what variant she had) and they gave her no advice at all. the friend, a single woman, unvaccinated with no health insurance, living on a hobby farm, took some of her horse paste and was better the next day.
the couple again came to stay with us for new year's 2022 bringing her son and daughter in law from london (both vaccinated) and her unvaccinated mother from the mid west. after they left, they all got omicron except for the mother.
i think the wife has had a booster and she was planning on the bi-valent in spite of my urging against it.
Doesn’t matter. They’re “investigating” themselves. You know... the same way chem companies do with the fertilizers that are killing off of the bees, same way they do with the chemicals giving all of us cancer, our children autism, our elderly Alzheimer’s.
We’re thoroughly assfucked. Oh and make sure you grab your ankles and smile during the entire ordeal.
They can hire the Maricopa County election crew to crunch the numbers for them.
Take only a century or two.
Right?
I will bet what FTX was worth last month that Pfizer/Moderna won't find any issues.
Lost a lot of $ when Celsius and Voyager went to crap!!! I would LOVE to know how deep this rabbit hole goes… Gary Ginsler? DNC? $$$ laundering for Ukraine??? How much ya want to bet Afro boy will get Epsteined?!
How about all of the above… 😡🔥
I can write the results for them now. Absolutely no negative long term health impacts, completely safe and effective. My invoice is in the mail.
The Australian government will not allow people under 30 to get the 4th booster because the risk of myocarditis may be greater than Covid.
The 4th!!! Hahahhaha
They are pushing the 5th shot here in Japan.
Pfizer: vaccinates their trial control group to ensure no long-term side effects data exists.
Pfizer two years later: “don’t worry about long term side effects, we’re ‘investigating’!”
Ha! To quote HRC, “what difference does it make?”.
spicy
It’s F&CKING absurd! Let’s show you how we screwed you in plain sight - make you pay for and watch us investigate your demise. We are looking out for you! Please sign up for our trials! Don’t worry we have meds/vaxs to cure what we caused. All not for free…
Only the first one is free.
All the good drug pushers know that.
Ha. Phizer and Moderna should be flagged by 'Facebook and YouTube FactCheckers' for misinformation. According those 'Factcheckers' ... 'launch trials' should be 'have already been conducted'. Or maybe one of the parties just needs to brush up on their grammar? 🤣 Will post a direct link to a few private FB groups and see what kind of flag pops up.
Vaccines don’t cause long term side effects. Long Covid does. What do you mean you didn’t have Covid, you did but were asymptomatic so you didn’t realise. Anyway, nothing to do with vaccines, nothing to see here, move along.
This is one of the reasons I trust none of the vaccine-believers-now-heretics trying to Substack their way to repentance and reliable-sourcedness.
Anyone not coerced/threatened who willingly took this miracle-of-warp-speed science and is trying to convince me of their dazzling intelligence and integrity--nah.
Just a handful of people have proven themselves the North Stars we need. You're top of the firmament.
[edited for clarity]
The Science (TM) version of amnesty, I guess.
If they are studying then it means they intend profiteering from the (ongoing and subscription-based) treatment, which probably won't work but have more nasty effects