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John Murray's avatar

Fav bumper sticker: "My freedom does not end at the beginning of your fears" ;

I want to hear, under oath, from these wicked people, exactly what they did and why they did it.

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Phoebe's avatar

You're assuming, of course, that they'd have any scruples about lying under oath. They've done it before during Congressional hearings, so I'm sure they'd easily do it again.

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Nancy HOYT's avatar

It depends on what the meaning of is is ЁЯдгЁЯдо

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

тАЬCigarettes do not cause cancerтАЭ. Every CEO for tobacco companies parroted those same words right down the line.

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MrsS's avatar

The saddest part about this saying is that it isnтАЩt true. We lived through 2.5 years of accommodating fear at the expense of our freedoms. And most people, even ones who werenтАЩt afraid, said and did nothing. You did, I am sure. I did. But when fighting against the entire corrupt system, we had no chance. And it isnтАЩt going away unless people get very angry and demand a change.

Most people I know IRL are just happy life is тАЬback to normalтАЭ now and want to move on, like Emily said. THIS ANGERS ME EVEN MORE.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Most people we know in real life, want what Emily wants, for us to just accept them back and move on. But we won't forget.

I won't forget the friends who blocked me on Facebook after they demanded I wear an effing mask and get the effing vaccine. I also won't forget the odd hypocrisy of family get togethers at Thanksgiving and Christmas extolling the virtues of masks and vaccines while being unmasked, and at least interacting among a filthy plage-spreader that I was. Show some intellectual consistency why don't you...or be like me.

I won't forget the doctor's visit where I was asked if I was vaccinated and after underlining why I was not going to get a vaccine, received an anemic response that was bereft of logic and clarity. BY MY DOCTOR.

And those are some of the things I won't forget. I thought I would be content and finally being heard, but it's not even in the near or beginning vicinity of enough.

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Stephenie's avatar

I hear you! I am reliving a sense of rage and betrayal this week that I didnтАЩt realize was still active.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I think it rises in opposition to the sea of excuses and rationalizations. Also it is becoming clearer and clearer how much disaster these policies have been visited upon us.

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suannee's avatar

You are so correct!

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Datagal's avatar

Like

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Blanch Ann's avatar

ЁЯТп

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Carol Anne's avatar

I agree with you. I wonтАЩt stop talking about it, and I wonтАЩt stop bitching. My partner hears me quoting statistics every day. HeтАЩs a gem and understands my frustration. I did my best to fight these covidiots, and lost some friends and family in the process - I donтАЩt care. I donтАЩt forgive, and I donтАЩt forget.

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Keahi's avatar

Me neither. A few friends have turned over and displayed their bellies. Meh.

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Will's avatar

I have been retired for 13 years, so feel free to say what I want to. I guess the IRS could harass me if they thought I was important enough, or some lefty nutter could have me swatted. That said, when I was in business, I am not sure if I would have written a letter to the newspaper stating my conservative views. Cowardice or common sense? Why alienate some of your customers, etc? Anyway, back to the subject, these "experts' need to pay for what they did. The worst was suppressing the effective treatments like IVermectin and HCQ. Hundreds of thousands of needless deaths because the vaccine narrative was so all effing important to our overlords.

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roi's avatar

How successful would the shot campaign have been if corporate America didnтАЩt sign on. Recently, an employer dropped all covid policies but still encourages everyone to get a shot and booster.

After, the shot campaign started a school janitor died while on school property. Teachers that knew her sadden by the old lady that died.

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suannee's avatar

You're correct

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jpb's avatar

Do not under estimate the importance of those of us who resisted evil from early 2020. We blazed a principled and scientific defense against evil in high places. Many are joining us, as evidence of these crimes against humanity becomes undeniable.

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Keahi's avatar

I was estranged from my entire family, due to my early stance on covid. My partner and I called bs on it in April of 2020 and have never wavered. Just in the past couple of weeks one of my sisters has renewed her relationship with me, after Dr. Campbell started talking some truth. Now she is catching up fast, emailing me with a hundred questions. Sadly, both she and her husband went ahead and got jabbed. I do my best not to rub her nose in it. The other two sisters have remained silent. I don't know if they will ever acknowledge how mistaken they were, as it's not in their natures to admit to being wrong.

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Datagal's avatar

I hope you can forgive the sister who has woken up, and help her heal from the jabs. At least she has come around- so many were brainwashed!

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Keahi's avatar

I have to tread very lightly. She and I have some pretty heavy "stuff" between us, beyond covid, and we've needed to do some hard work on that. We have both acknowledged that we may never trust one another again, it was that dire, but we are both willing to work towards forgiveness and renewed communication. The mutual thought was, we're not getting any younger, one of us may die, let's at least try to patch things up. She will be 78 in a few days. It was important to me to connect with her. I'm so sad to learn that all of my family were jabbed, some of them repeatedly.

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Datagal's avatar

IтАЩm glad you at least reconnected. I lost my 70 year old eldest sister- my rock!- to ALS last December and IтАЩve give anything to have her back. Enjoy what you can with your sister, while you can.

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Keahi's avatar

I'm so sorry, my condolences.

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suannee's avatar

The people I once agreed with about a lot of stuff and whom I respected as being smart have their heads so deep in the sand they can't even hear those of us who need apologies and some who need restitution and reimbursement for losing their jobs and businesses and on and on. It's disheartening and disgraceful.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I never really gave much thought about agreeing with people. I found that the longer I interact or know someone, the more chance that I will disagree with them. My failing is that I thought we came from a place of respect. We could disagree, but at the end of the day, we were on the same page. One of the problems came when people equated disagreement with hate.

As far as people having their heads in the sands, it's more than that. It's cognitive dissonance, mass formation, and all sorts of maladies. First is the exposure to 24/7 propaganda perpetuated by the mass media. The second is the censoring of any dissenting viewpoints. The third was the pressure of succumbing to an authority for whatever reason. Even if you don't believe in masks or vaccines, the pressure exists and still does to buy into it. The short term reward for accepting these policies outweighed the risks...although it is becoming clear now that the risk were far from than originally expressed.

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suannee's avatar

I agree with you. Your position is well-expressed.

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Victoria's avatar

How do I get reimbursed for the loss of my brother?

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suannee's avatar

I'm sorry you lost your brother. My brother-in-law died 3 months after getting the shot. They said it was from an "unexpected" heart attack. He never had any diagnosis for heart problems before and he was a guy who went to a doctor regularly.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You can't...I am sorry for your loss.

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Keahi's avatar

They've been "softened up" for the next time. Frog soup.

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Tonya's avatar

And what they are going to do to make sure it doesn't happen again. That's the most important part.

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Peregrine's avatar

Oh, it WILL happen again. That gain-of-function bullspit is going on all over the planet.

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INGRID C DURDEN's avatar

it probably already happened a few times since ! all that bird flu and other crazy stuff, god knows, could have escaped from labs. And several ebola outbreaks in Africa.

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Bootsorourke's avatar

They did

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Keahi's avatar

Yep, and all the accounting for the covid bs will be put on hold. Indefinitely.

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AndyinBC's avatar

Oh how I wish I could disagree - but I fear your observation is accurate. Damn.

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suannee's avatar

Facebook has blocked any attempts I've made to share things like the Daily Mail article. In fact, I can't interact with anyone on fb. I don't know how to fix that.

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Datagal's avatar

A blessing! Just quit Facebook.

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alexei's avatar

That's the general problem of depending on censored social media sites for us to spread information to counteract their misinformation!!! It's an uphill battle.

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suannee's avatar

Yes, it is.

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Texas Pete's avatar

100%!!!

I donтАЩt care about revenge or apologies or anything else. The only thing I want is to fix the system that is so broken that it led to this.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I would prefer burning it down. And bringing it local.

I don't think it can be fixed imo.

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Keahi's avatar

I'm afraid so.

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jpb's avatar

The system can't be fixed or reformed. Take the CDC---it must be removed as a cancerous tumor is removed from the body. The CDC, Pfizer, Moderna, NIH, etc. must be removed with extreme prejudice from society.

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HWG's avatar

So be that JPB.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

It is the height of all selfishness to believe that my fear should be accommodated by others.

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Butternut Saskatoon's avatar

Yep, just before the bottom falls out of the platform and they're dangling on the end of the rope.

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Unacceptable Fringe Minority's avatar

You are assuming that swearing to tell the truth means something . . .

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Well now, isnt THAT special...'s avatar

That is perfect. AND true.

We can't take anything she said seriously. Really, can we take anyone in the public eye seriously over how covid was "handled"?

It's not amnesty, forgiveness, apologies, memory holing that we need. We the levelheaded, data miners and commonsense science believers should NEVER forget what happened and as a group, NEVER comply in the future. IF all of team reality would have just said no, we wouldn't have gotten into such a deep hole. KEY WORD IS NEVER. NEVER EVER BELIEVE THEM OR COMPLY.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Not only science believers, but those that can balance that science with the risk/reward as well as make policy that also keeps in mind the constitutionality of instituting certain policies.

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Well now, isnt THAT special...'s avatar

Indeed!!! Well said.

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Bootsorourke's avatar

Except, they are not done

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