You might be right. I'm old too, and may be misremembering.
I understand transitioning folks wanting to be called by the pronoun of their target sex/gender. What I don't get are the non-binaries who don't want to be either one, and think we need dozens of different pronouns to cover that, else mortal insult.
You owe it to yourself and the world to provoke her. Seriously. Mess with her. Just keep bringing up all the people who've been banned that you now read on Substack.
"Did you see that new article by Dr Malone? Oh right he's not on Twitter and you don't read Substack. I wonder if he'll go back?"
Come on. You know you want to. Channel your inner "bad kitten" :)
what really SUCKS, is 10 years ago it was fun to have colors in my hair, just for sporting events and parties or what ever. BUT since the alphabet gang appropriated the hair color thing, I wouldnt be caught dead doing that now. I don't want to be misconstrued. Seahawks and Sounders games had TONS of blue or green hair for solidarity, but I can't align with the irritatingly vengeful group that is now dying their hair to match their horrible attitude.
In the late 80s and 90s I would have one side of my head, grow it out and shave the other side. I would bring reusable bags to the grocery store and was mocked for being a tree hugger. I was a vegetarian and accused often of being a political vegetarian (whatever that was at the time) and I dressed what the trend today is called boho……I was made fun of, name called…..so I feel your dismay!!!
I almost want to tell them to stop ripping the true counter culture off…..maybe we were the original hipsters!
I think I may join up as soon as it's clear the censorship is gone. It ought to be fun for a while. Also there's a lot of legit info sites on there, like my local fire department, and it would be nice to not have to use nitter to check manually if they have posted anything when I see smoke. You may have observed I don't live in the wettest climate.
If deal is approved by regulators, and Elon installs the changes he's outlined, and those permanently banned unbanned, will join. Haven't ever tweeted.
I suspect the average IQ of the commentariat at Substack is significantly greater than the apparent average at twitter. As are the apparent literacy rates and educational levels. I will think about signing up on the "new" twitter. Maybe. In time.
I think alot of the Higher IQ folks got banned from twitter. So yes, twitter dumbed down their service to accommodate the increasingly stupid followers.
Much of it is obviously deliberate. I’ve communicated with 2 who were cannily intelligent but ignored reasoned debate. Something like a debate with Joseph Mengele. Intelligent but evil.
To everyone who has ever been deplatformed, censored, deleted, disappeared, expurgated, purged, excised, silenced, chilled, shut out, denounced, suppressed, vetted, or red-penciled.....let liberty and freedom ring! Silent no more.
Hard work not trusting anyone, ever. Do you trust ElGatoMalo?
Can Twitter rebuild trust? Yes, very quickly. The alogrthm gets open sourced... It'll blow people's minds what terrible biases have been codes into it. Really ugly stuff. Will be the News story that keeps on giving this year.
And Elon Musk, by doing so, will make Twitter worth easily twice what it is today... earning himself (and his investor partners) a nice little return on their investment.
Absolutely, if we want to be influencing actual policies, we need actual people.
The narrative needs to be allowed to run fairly higher upstream to cause the powerful rivers of thought to flow naturally through the valley of reason.
Too long have they been diverted and broken to irrigate the soil of poisoned fruits.
I check in every few days on Twitter. Too much outrage porn there. I wasn’t even aware of bad cattitude on Twitter. I think there’s a better community on Substack that can be grown by linking Substack articles on Twitter.
It has indeed been exactly that. Comments in this thread would seem to indicate a degree of hope that, under Mr. Musk's guidance, the forum may evolve into a platform for the exchange of ideas.
Well, sure. But stepping carefully through the fetid swamp enabled civilized people to find the rational conversations happening here. And now them other folks is Rumpelstiltskining themselves all over it.
Agreed. I encountered some great people on Twitter. A few I count as friends now. They are thoughtful, insightful, skeptical, rational. But they are a tiny minority in that mostly disgusting cesspool.
Yes, shitlibs is the less kind substitute word for neoliberals. And note they ain't left. Unless you are so foolish as to claim identity politics is left. They are often more right wing than conservatives. Pro Big Corporate all the way. Pro War. Pro MIC. Pro Globalism. Pro no borders. No wonder they are now allied with the Neocons.
To me it is cause for celebration. Yes, Elon Musk is an enigma, some call him a loose cannon. They said the same about DJT, remember? I think this is a big moment, the tide may be turning and it can only get better from here. His views seem clear to me - unless he's a lying psychopath. And haven't we had enough of those where we can now smell them at 100 yards?
I myself don't consider it was all that easy to bring him down, he took a hell of a lot of blows. Trump was surrounded by traitors from Day One, and he was in no way prepared for the diabolically concerted effort against him (were any of us?). It is true that he sometimes played into their hands by not being so good at holding his tongue (how I would wince), but that was also what made him who he was - a flawed man who loved the people and was and is loved in return by so many. His enemies were gunning for him so hard, it was phenomenal that he stayed upright and got as much done as he did. I always envision an old lion surrounded by jackals, attacking him, nipping at all sides, and even then it took covid and the Big Cheat to bring him down. Hopefully Musk, who I am convinced is a decent man, will be just as smart and just as slippery (if not even more so), will stay frosty and beat them at their own games. But then again, he's not the President. At least not yet.
Again--the value of Twitter for me was it being the little breadcrumb path to finding people and their analyses that the ordinary person could never have found otherwise. I smacked my principles hard when Twitter stopped allowing non-acct. holders to read full threads. Sometimes the enemy has useful tools, and now the Shrike has been shriked mighty hard in those places, as they say, where the sun ought not to shine.
I’m guessing you’ll be allowed back soon, Gato. It’s a public service, what you’ve done. It must be time consuming. There has to be tremendous opportunity cost for you involved in your efforts on Twitter and Substack. You deserve praise and gratitude, and most definitely a groveling apology, in sackcloth and ashes, from Twitter.
It's actually quite telling that they're so terrified of even a moderate move against total censorship. As far as I'm aware Musk wants everyone to attach their posts with their real life identity.
Given that we've already seen countless instances of people's posts being used against them I'm not sure trading anonymity for less moderation is a good deal in the long run.
I agree. He’s also for universal basic income which will eventually be tied to your social credit score and then we will be like the Chinese, dependent upon the good graces of our credit score for our very survival. I’ll pass on twitter.
Why all the taunting of “woke Twitter employees” as if it’s most of the company and not just management? Why don’t I hear anything about sharing the joy of long-time Twitter employees who believe in free speech and were holding out for something like this, a return to the ideals Twitter stood for when they joined? I hereby invite them on particular to our celebration!
I cannot believe all the conservative intellectual fire power that may be roaring back on Twitter in just a few weeks! And, of course, El Gato malo as well........ :-)
Don't think I'll go back, but I'm glad to know that there are green-haired lunatics losing more of their minds.
Yeah, what is with the green hair? Although I’ve a sister with purple hair who is also apoplectic today.
Maybe hair color denotes which of he 28 genders they are.
That’s what I was thinking. Or maybe it just means they like ugly hair.
I thought it was 96. With a pronoun for each one.
Oops! I knew the number changed, but I guess I'm too old and too dumb to understand.
You might be right. I'm old too, and may be misremembering.
I understand transitioning folks wanting to be called by the pronoun of their target sex/gender. What I don't get are the non-binaries who don't want to be either one, and think we need dozens of different pronouns to cover that, else mortal insult.
I’m so confused… I guess that means that I am normal! when it all starts making sense, I’ll get very worried… 😵💫😵💫😵💫
You owe it to yourself and the world to provoke her. Seriously. Mess with her. Just keep bringing up all the people who've been banned that you now read on Substack.
"Did you see that new article by Dr Malone? Oh right he's not on Twitter and you don't read Substack. I wonder if he'll go back?"
Come on. You know you want to. Channel your inner "bad kitten" :)
what really SUCKS, is 10 years ago it was fun to have colors in my hair, just for sporting events and parties or what ever. BUT since the alphabet gang appropriated the hair color thing, I wouldnt be caught dead doing that now. I don't want to be misconstrued. Seahawks and Sounders games had TONS of blue or green hair for solidarity, but I can't align with the irritatingly vengeful group that is now dying their hair to match their horrible attitude.
In the late 80s and 90s I would have one side of my head, grow it out and shave the other side. I would bring reusable bags to the grocery store and was mocked for being a tree hugger. I was a vegetarian and accused often of being a political vegetarian (whatever that was at the time) and I dressed what the trend today is called boho……I was made fun of, name called…..so I feel your dismay!!!
I almost want to tell them to stop ripping the true counter culture off…..maybe we were the original hipsters!
Everything you said… 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I was just going to say the same! Nature warns us against dangerous species.
I think I may join up as soon as it's clear the censorship is gone. It ought to be fun for a while. Also there's a lot of legit info sites on there, like my local fire department, and it would be nice to not have to use nitter to check manually if they have posted anything when I see smoke. You may have observed I don't live in the wettest climate.
The salt is all I care about.
If deal is approved by regulators, and Elon installs the changes he's outlined, and those permanently banned unbanned, will join. Haven't ever tweeted.
My sentiments exactly
Dance on my little feline friend, dance on.
I don’t think I will go Twitter. Substack is better for long pieces. And we owe them a lot.
I suspect the average IQ of the commentariat at Substack is significantly greater than the apparent average at twitter. As are the apparent literacy rates and educational levels. I will think about signing up on the "new" twitter. Maybe. In time.
Diversity of thinking needs to reach all, even the hard of thinking.
I think alot of the Higher IQ folks got banned from twitter. So yes, twitter dumbed down their service to accommodate the increasingly stupid followers.
Much of it is obviously deliberate. I’ve communicated with 2 who were cannily intelligent but ignored reasoned debate. Something like a debate with Joseph Mengele. Intelligent but evil.
👏👏👏 yes
It's nice to have both. They key is to pay for the subscriptions we use.
* Insert Stronger together meme *
There are smarter bots on substack.
To everyone who has ever been deplatformed, censored, deleted, disappeared, expurgated, purged, excised, silenced, chilled, shut out, denounced, suppressed, vetted, or red-penciled.....let liberty and freedom ring! Silent no more.
I love the smell of freedom in the morning!
I hope they do move to Canada. Politics under Castro Jr. will be an apropos experience for them…
No please we don't want them either!
WE DEMAND DNA testing on little Castro....
We have enough of our own up here LOL. We could do a trade. You keep Justin Beiber and we'll take 1,000 of your nutjobs?
How about we move them to that new resort in Baffin Bay…because global warming don’t you know…
No more liberal voters please! LOL
Let's hope that this is the first victory of many to come in the long battle for free speech, and freedom in general.
I’m with you Wild Bill. I find it is still best not to trust though
Hard work not trusting anyone, ever. Do you trust ElGatoMalo?
Can Twitter rebuild trust? Yes, very quickly. The alogrthm gets open sourced... It'll blow people's minds what terrible biases have been codes into it. Really ugly stuff. Will be the News story that keeps on giving this year.
And Elon Musk, by doing so, will make Twitter worth easily twice what it is today... earning himself (and his investor partners) a nice little return on their investment.
The real question is: would you go back if they allowed it? I won't.
i think it's highly synergistic with substack.
this place is great for long form content and i like it here. definitely going to stay.
but i miss the ability to go head to head with the bobbleheads, experts, and politicians.
here, they feel little need to engage with you and we all risk getting echo-chambered by being surrounded by mostly like minded folks.
to get out and affect the debate, you have to engage with all sides.
having a twitter account too big to easily duck is a useful seat at a useful table.
and the ability to lay out complex ideas here and wield them there would be potent.
you el gato malo and tes are the cause of my composure during the scamdemic.
Those 'experts' never once engaged with me when I was on, so I doubt they will change their tune if I go back.
They ain't the ones who needed you.
Absolutely, if we want to be influencing actual policies, we need actual people.
The narrative needs to be allowed to run fairly higher upstream to cause the powerful rivers of thought to flow naturally through the valley of reason.
Too long have they been diverted and broken to irrigate the soil of poisoned fruits.
bobbleheads 😁
😵💫 <--- bobbleheads when banned accounts are re-instated
Thoughts on what will happen to the TSLA stock price? It is getting annihilated today?
100%
I check in every few days on Twitter. Too much outrage porn there. I wasn’t even aware of bad cattitude on Twitter. I think there’s a better community on Substack that can be grown by linking Substack articles on Twitter.
For a while my Twitter was used almost exclusively for posting Substack links to the banned. I was axed soon after.
Twitter is a toxic sewer where sad, angry leftists vent their irrational rage. It is not meant for civilized people engaging in rational conversation.
I am grateful to have found substack, especially this home. I don’t feel so alone in this sea of stupidity and corruption.
It has indeed been exactly that. Comments in this thread would seem to indicate a degree of hope that, under Mr. Musk's guidance, the forum may evolve into a platform for the exchange of ideas.
Well, sure. But stepping carefully through the fetid swamp enabled civilized people to find the rational conversations happening here. And now them other folks is Rumpelstiltskining themselves all over it.
Agreed. I encountered some great people on Twitter. A few I count as friends now. They are thoughtful, insightful, skeptical, rational. But they are a tiny minority in that mostly disgusting cesspool.
But that's true of life in general.
Hopefully Musk will give it the Augean stable treatment.
Not leftists, the correct term is Neoliberals.
neoshitlibs to be exact
Yes, shitlibs is the less kind substitute word for neoliberals. And note they ain't left. Unless you are so foolish as to claim identity politics is left. They are often more right wing than conservatives. Pro Big Corporate all the way. Pro War. Pro MIC. Pro Globalism. Pro no borders. No wonder they are now allied with the Neocons.
"I was axed soon after." That is a badge of honor. Wear it with pride.
And now here we all are, gleeful...
To me it is cause for celebration. Yes, Elon Musk is an enigma, some call him a loose cannon. They said the same about DJT, remember? I think this is a big moment, the tide may be turning and it can only get better from here. His views seem clear to me - unless he's a lying psychopath. And haven't we had enough of those where we can now smell them at 100 yards?
Trump was a loose cannon and his inability to control his worst impulses when it mattered most was what made it so easy to take him down.
I myself don't consider it was all that easy to bring him down, he took a hell of a lot of blows. Trump was surrounded by traitors from Day One, and he was in no way prepared for the diabolically concerted effort against him (were any of us?). It is true that he sometimes played into their hands by not being so good at holding his tongue (how I would wince), but that was also what made him who he was - a flawed man who loved the people and was and is loved in return by so many. His enemies were gunning for him so hard, it was phenomenal that he stayed upright and got as much done as he did. I always envision an old lion surrounded by jackals, attacking him, nipping at all sides, and even then it took covid and the Big Cheat to bring him down. Hopefully Musk, who I am convinced is a decent man, will be just as smart and just as slippery (if not even more so), will stay frosty and beat them at their own games. But then again, he's not the President. At least not yet.
A propos of this - https://stream.org/pray-for-elon-musk/
Wow
I kept encountering references to boriquagato on likeminded Twitter accts. and that's how I tracked down this Substack.
me too. and so glad
I think I found it last summer because Mathew Crawford linked a 🐱 article...
I found it because of a link from Alex Berenson
Me too
Me too.
Me too!
Kirsch.
Still... trolling the blue checks could be pretty sweet
I only use Twitter to post links. Totally agree about the outrage porn. Then there's the intellectual depravity of the trolls.
Agree. A way for journalists to broaden their audience.
I will, just as a matter of principle! Doesn’t matter if I ever look at it, just making a point to the Twitter Board!
Again--the value of Twitter for me was it being the little breadcrumb path to finding people and their analyses that the ordinary person could never have found otherwise. I smacked my principles hard when Twitter stopped allowing non-acct. holders to read full threads. Sometimes the enemy has useful tools, and now the Shrike has been shriked mighty hard in those places, as they say, where the sun ought not to shine.
They can learn to code or clean cat litter
A GOP Senator today posted a pic of a porta potty being hauled in a truck bed in DC. His tweet?:
A Democrat moving his office.
I’m guessing you’ll be allowed back soon, Gato. It’s a public service, what you’ve done. It must be time consuming. There has to be tremendous opportunity cost for you involved in your efforts on Twitter and Substack. You deserve praise and gratitude, and most definitely a groveling apology, in sackcloth and ashes, from Twitter.
Gonna be a day of finger food for me because I ain't gonna be able to tear myself away from my laptop for more than, say, five minutes at a time...
Make sure you wash that finger food down with a nice tall frosty glass of melted snowflakes and liberal tears. Ah! The pause that refreshes!!!
With real lemon flavor!
It's actually quite telling that they're so terrified of even a moderate move against total censorship. As far as I'm aware Musk wants everyone to attach their posts with their real life identity.
Given that we've already seen countless instances of people's posts being used against them I'm not sure trading anonymity for less moderation is a good deal in the long run.
I agree. He’s also for universal basic income which will eventually be tied to your social credit score and then we will be like the Chinese, dependent upon the good graces of our credit score for our very survival. I’ll pass on twitter.
Why all the taunting of “woke Twitter employees” as if it’s most of the company and not just management? Why don’t I hear anything about sharing the joy of long-time Twitter employees who believe in free speech and were holding out for something like this, a return to the ideals Twitter stood for when they joined? I hereby invite them on particular to our celebration!
Probably most sane employees already quit in disgust.
Bring decatformed is even worse than being declawed lil good cat! 😱
"decatformed" - Love it!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I cannot believe all the conservative intellectual fire power that may be roaring back on Twitter in just a few weeks! And, of course, El Gato malo as well........ :-)
Brilliant! Love it - bring it on