Completely disagree with this take on teleworking. I've worked remote for over 15 years with various companies and groups. I've never seen burnout as a result of working remotely. I've definitely seen burnout from terrible managers (generally bad people overall) and their unrealistic expectations. All it takes, is good communication a…
Completely disagree with this take on teleworking. I've worked remote for over 15 years with various companies and groups. I've never seen burnout as a result of working remotely. I've definitely seen burnout from terrible managers (generally bad people overall) and their unrealistic expectations. All it takes, is good communication and properly set expectations. I work fewer hours than I ever have working remote, yet everything gets done, and nobody is bitching. My recommendation to people struggling with this is: "be an adult! learn to say No!"
I agree. I enjoyed reading the article nonetheless, but I saw these things all play out when commuting to offices. Home interruptions are replaced with co-workers' constant interruptions, and you'd always hear how nobody has time to "get anything done" because of it. I definitely got 12am weeknight calls for stupid reasons, and the "sorry," was insincere. These issues I've encountered in all companies.
I once got a mark on my annual review for setting boundaries by not going to after-work happy hours. This was when I was always in the office, but left at 4:30 (since I came at 7:30).
By the way, I also got a mark at that company for, if I came in at late (8am), leaving at 5pm. They said I need to be consistent at the time I come in. Of course, if I come in at 7:30 and left at 5, they said they were a-okay with that. "Remote work" wasn't allowed except when it meant working at home after leaving the office.
That company is either ridiculous, or trying to get rid of / underpay you for some other reason they don't want to say out loud, or both.
I take feedback seriously and find ridiculous criticisms on formal reviews demoralizing and stressful. I wonder if this is a better place to look for causes of burnout. Maybe some of this bad behavior tends to increase massively when people don't see each other regularly. I would expect it to make managers see employees as less human and reviews as more of an unwelcome burden, and hold back darker impulses a little less.
I tend to agree with you Bits-n-Nibbles, but I think the part that sticks with me is the remote work for the younger generation. I think as a general rule the 20-30-somethings these days don't have the expertise in boundary setting. The physical office tended to enforce that, whereas working remote one has to enforce it oneself.
The difference is that the percentage shifted during covid lockdowns to being the majority on remote work and that triggered a lot not the issues described in the article.
when i was working during the pandemic, there was a huge difference between introverts and extroverts on the work from home issue. the introverts were loving it...fewer interruptions, less chit chat, ditching the cubicle, more focused concentration, etc. extroverts hated it because they couldn't walk around the office and talk to everyone.
Completely disagree with this take on teleworking. I've worked remote for over 15 years with various companies and groups. I've never seen burnout as a result of working remotely. I've definitely seen burnout from terrible managers (generally bad people overall) and their unrealistic expectations. All it takes, is good communication and properly set expectations. I work fewer hours than I ever have working remote, yet everything gets done, and nobody is bitching. My recommendation to people struggling with this is: "be an adult! learn to say No!"
I agree. I enjoyed reading the article nonetheless, but I saw these things all play out when commuting to offices. Home interruptions are replaced with co-workers' constant interruptions, and you'd always hear how nobody has time to "get anything done" because of it. I definitely got 12am weeknight calls for stupid reasons, and the "sorry," was insincere. These issues I've encountered in all companies.
I once got a mark on my annual review for setting boundaries by not going to after-work happy hours. This was when I was always in the office, but left at 4:30 (since I came at 7:30).
By the way, I also got a mark at that company for, if I came in at late (8am), leaving at 5pm. They said I need to be consistent at the time I come in. Of course, if I come in at 7:30 and left at 5, they said they were a-okay with that. "Remote work" wasn't allowed except when it meant working at home after leaving the office.
That company is either ridiculous, or trying to get rid of / underpay you for some other reason they don't want to say out loud, or both.
I take feedback seriously and find ridiculous criticisms on formal reviews demoralizing and stressful. I wonder if this is a better place to look for causes of burnout. Maybe some of this bad behavior tends to increase massively when people don't see each other regularly. I would expect it to make managers see employees as less human and reviews as more of an unwelcome burden, and hold back darker impulses a little less.
I tend to agree with you Bits-n-Nibbles, but I think the part that sticks with me is the remote work for the younger generation. I think as a general rule the 20-30-somethings these days don't have the expertise in boundary setting. The physical office tended to enforce that, whereas working remote one has to enforce it oneself.
The difference is that the percentage shifted during covid lockdowns to being the majority on remote work and that triggered a lot not the issues described in the article.
when i was working during the pandemic, there was a huge difference between introverts and extroverts on the work from home issue. the introverts were loving it...fewer interruptions, less chit chat, ditching the cubicle, more focused concentration, etc. extroverts hated it because they couldn't walk around the office and talk to everyone.