Putting a mask on a person is like putting a mask on a car's tailpipe. We remove toxins through our breathing - when masked these get caught in the fabric and we end up breathing them in and out all day. Not to mention the industrial chemicals in the masks themselves, our own C02, bacteria, and the bacteria and pollution in the environment all around us.
There are also disturbing parallels between masking and losing your identity, your voice, and your sense of community. The building blocks of civilization - the comradery between men - is severely compromised with masking. You can see these effects all around you - the stitching the binds our society together is unraveling.
Not to mention that they only ever work at all when they are used properly by trained professionals. When they are not - when people constantly touch and adjust them all day long - they tend to be worse than nothing. Consider a COVID-19 infected shopper at Wal-Mart that straightens his/her mask before picking an item up off the shelf - considers it - and then returns it. That returned item is now covered with the virus - and that item will now likely infect anyone and everyone who comes in contact with it: other shoppers and Wal-Mart staff - they themselves who are also likely employing improper mask wearing.
Who am I kidding, masks do not work at all to stop viruses, a friend of mine spent countless hours putting together the most extensive and comprehensive report you are likely to find anywhere on the subject:
Any questions you have about the safety and efficacy of masking will be fully answered upon examining the above document. In summary: masks are not effective nor safe. Their toxicity envelops both mind and body. Stay away from them.
Finally, ABC reports a 364% Surge in baby and toddler speech therapy referrals due to masking:
OMG. During the entire pandemic husband and I saw many health care professionals for ailments. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM couldn't keep their hands off their masks!!!!! I would fixate on their mask tugging to the point of distraction.
and we were told that when you touch your mask it becomes useless ! Haha.
I turn off most Youtube films and docs when I see masked people, which makes that I usually only watch pre mid-2020 films, or better even, animal films.
I worked in a couple of hospitals in 2012-2014. I also remember that you only touch the mask to throw it to the toxic waste bin and then you must wash your hands thoroughly 🤷🏽
My experience as well. Especially one doc in particular, super nice guy. I think he was unaware of what he was doing because he was so focused on effective communication which he instinctively knew wasn't possible through the mask.
I wanted to speak to my surgeon after having cancer surgery. He made me keep my (fake mask) mask ON. I wasn’t even able to speak to him one on one about some serious issues. The medical cartel is alive and quite well. Sickening!
Except, the whole "surface argument" about viruses has proven not to be true either. This preoccupation with washing our hands and the things we touch is based on the misplaced idea that the virus stays on surfaces a lot longer than it does and remains viable. Washing our hands after going to the bathroom is a good idea, don't get me wrong, and it shows a degree of respect for others to do so, but the excessive washing and disinfecting will not serve us well. Our immune systems were built to withstand a certain level of germs. And again, the virus isn't that deadly to most people anyway, so why are we focused so hard and fast on removing any trace of it? The solution is already available: our immune systems.
Do they work even by trained professionals? Those supposed medical mask boxes state they do not prevent infection. That is not my understanding but I could be wrong.
When required to wear a mask at the GP surgery I deliberately pull and adjust the damn thing, often. I can't believe some people haven't caught on that masks are nothing but a form of control.
The indicator as to how effective they are. Ask a surgeon if they will do surgery or will postpone it if the person being operated on has a communicable disease.
Hold on a minute. A surgeon wearing a mask for an operation may be appropriate for his job. But enforcing mask rules for the populace is tyranical and there is enough evidence showing masks to be harmful to health. The covid narrative has been a lie perpetrated by weak minded individuals without an ethical bone in thei bodies.
A surgeon knows that the mask, although appropriate for surgery, will not prevent a virus from infecting him. He wears the mask for a particular purpose to prevent splash back from an open wound as well as anything to infect the open would from his mouth, such as the droplets from the mouth that they were so freaking afraid of since the inception of the pandemic. The droplets can cause infection, that much is certain, but this whole preoccupation with them for so many months after the beginning of the pandemic was so pretentious.
Most people who used the masks traditionally, such as people who work in mines, those who use the N95's in toxic situations or to protect from small particulates know that the masks are not 100% effective. Talk to any of them and they will tell you hat after wearing a mask for a couple hours and removing it, some particles manage to get through on even the most well-fitting masks, and that's just the particles you can see.
I agree what El Gato Malo has said, that we appear to be at the moment, ruled by those who don't even realize they are perpetuating a fiction.They are a victim of the self perpetuation engine that has gotten away from them and is no longer under their control. It is at this moment the question becomes, what do you do when the toddler has taken the wheel of a car. Either two things happen, either an adult can step in and take the wheel, or that car is going to do some damage to itself as well as some serious collateral damage.
In the case of this analogy, the car is government, and in this case when we do wrest control back, we could dismantle the car and make it less destructive as well as child proof it, which I believe the founding documents were meant to do. Our two errors were building back bigger, and removing and getting around all the childproof features.
Before a recent surgery for my husband, I asked the surgeon if he will wear a mask during surgery. His answer surprised me! He said that he knows they don't wear masks in surgery in England, but they are required to do so here. He said he would like to evaluate 'no masks' for some surgeries here, but he cannot. His honest answer gave me much more confidence in him.
I would absolutely prefer a surgeon operating on me to have full cognitive function and not have his brain clouded by even a small increase in CO2 levels from wearing a mask.
I would argue (backed by studies) that masks don’t work when employed by “trained professionals,” either. At least one large study, pre-Covid, failed to demonstrate any reduction in flu transmission when nurses wore properly fitted N95’s. Good luck rooting out the link for this study. It’s buried under years worth of Covid observational “studies.” 😉
Yeah - that study is buried. But how about this one? The CDC is pushing N95 masks through hospital systems that want to validate and enable the irrational fear of their patients. But they're no more effective than the blue pollutants you see all over the place. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6724169/
To this I have to say something. NEVER in my life have I been a "litter bug," but I despise the damn masks so much, I will throw them on the damn floor as I am walking out of the hospital, where they have still been required. Let them pick them up!
Great resource! Thanks for all the documentation. I’m fortunate to live in a county where very few bought the BS. Quite frankly, the few that we see still masked I look at and think 1. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just went through chemo, and 2. Swiftly followed by, these folks are either virtue signaling or just ignorant of the facts. Either way, they are to be pitied.
Even in many parts of the home/unschooling world, this became a badge of virtue and source of division. My kids were having none of it, but my teen was distressed at how many of his friends went along or all-in. It caused some real rifts, but they are healing (mostly because he was unrelentingly rational, kind, and uncompromising about his bodily autonomy, which turned out to be more attractive, long run, than the neurotic wubbie-wearing webelieve posse that had seized the podium).
I wonder if we would have torn it down. I like to think so, but we never faced the challenge.
Sarah, I can remember that moron, David Hogg, saying that even if masks were no longer required, he would continue to wear one so that no one would think he was a Republican or Trump supporter. No doubt TONS of others feel the same. And I’m sure they’re all “vax’d” & boosted up the whazoo.
I’m all for it - all of you Karens & Kens rebreathe your CO2 & have snot, sweat & other secretions & bacteria plastered to your face & revel in your superiority in having wrecked your immune system.
I just laugh when I see these mentally ill mask wearing morons. I was at a college football game this past Saturday, 70k in the stands. There was 1 guy double masked sitting a few rows up from me. I’ll I could think what kind of idiot wears those fucking things in a huge crowd of people in 90 degree weather???? El gato made a great comparison, calling it his “woobie” I’ve been calling them an adult “paci”. Reminds me of my son when he was 8 months old that just needed to suck on his pacifier to get himself to sleep.
I do shake my head when I see the behavior, similar to the Uber driver with the lucite divider between the front and back seat of their car. they are wearing a mask even after the mandates have been lifted. But I do not blame them. They have been saturated with PSA's and news reports 24/7 for years. It's amazing more people have not succumbed to it.
from your cloth we will know who you are. Good idea Cindi! But the last few months even my most woke friends have stopped wearing them. Only a few, most young women, are wearing them hereabouts. Yesterday I saw a woman walk in a quiet street all alone with a mask on. I just had to laugh.
Ingrid, I, too, still see people walking alone in the open air or alone in their cars wearing their tribal talisman, but much less than some months ago. I’ve gotten to the point that I just want to yell “moron” @ them but I don’t.
I predict the mask “tribe” will reassemble for Fall & the usual cold/flu/cough season is here
UG. For two and a half years, I've had visions of the muzzles catching on fire and burning to cinders right on the faces of the eejits. If that shite comes back around here the temptation to carry my flame thrower with me everywhere I go may overwhelm my common sense.......
I haven't been a huge fan of many a politician for a long time. I think DeSantis and Noem are notable exceptions. Kemp, our governor here in Georgia is lame in my opinion as well as he spoke out of both sides of his mouth concerning masking, so I have lost all respect for him, but Abrams although far more articulate than Kemp is much worse, considering her beliefs concerning ultrasound equipment.
The idea of wearing a mask as a sign of solidarity against "orange man bad" sounds like like removing the nose to spite the face. But here's the thing they should begin to ask themselves. If they are willing to embrace a behavior that has no grounding in reality simply out of spite for someone they find repugnant, then what else have they incorporated into their belief system that deviates from reality. Could their hatred actually also be based on delusion as well?
I agree about Kemp. But I will vote for him because he is the least of 2 bad. Abrams is digging her own grave. Saying Georgia is the worst state to live in and pose with a class of masked toddlers unmasked turned me off. Her declaring she would have locked down until the virus went away and promoting jab mandates having been sick of them herself did no good either. Declaring you should get them even if you could not spare the money for staying home sick.... Well that did not make a good impression. Kemp vaguely promoted but did notpress. I like him for trying to raise minimum wage. She would have run my small business friends into the ground.
DeSantis wore his mask like a good boy until the end of the pandemic. Then he flip-flopped and tried to pretend he never did. As a Floridian, I can confirm he is often not what he appears to be and often mis-represents his actions or takes credit for things he didn't actually do. The people of Florida (many of them at least) refused the mask and the vaccine, not DeSantis. He's all for promoting them like his masters demand.
Early on in 2020 Kemp actually reopened things faster in Georgia, but DeSantis leap-frogged over Georgia in terms of the conditions for opening, and it quickly became obvious who was up on the science regarding the Covid related restrictions. There are also numerous reports from various doctors and scientists against the narrative at how well-informed DeSantis was on Covid. He started out early with adhering to restrictions, but changed directions when it became obvious who was vulnerable to disease.
Now maybe all of these stories are fake, but I am more likely to believe in them as they were reported early and often precisely because they were against the narrative.
This isn't to say I am onboard with any politician making these policy decisions. The smartest thing DeSantis said was the parents should have the right to decide what their children should get to do in terms of masks.
Can you show me where he denied adherence to the mandates?
In an effort to make himself seem like he's an opposition figure, he was on-board with promoting de-centralized mask mandates throughout much of the pandemic. This is often a trick the right-wing establishments likes to pull to claim plausible deniability for their "outsider" figures. Only when Floridians largely stopped wearing them did he pretend to take credit for "abolishing" the mandates. However, by also wearing his mask until the end and then trying to flip-flop, he showed his true colors.
"While DeSantis won’t mandate the use of masks, he has encouraged them — as has state Surgeon General Scott Rivkees — and said there would be public service announcements on masks in the coming weeks."
edit: also adding, not specifically about your links but related to them, most of DeSantis' press conferences or media stories are based on misconceptions or slights-of-hand. You wouldn't necessarily know unless you lived here and were keyed into our politics for a long time. Like I said, he has a history of misrepresenting himself in a very scummy manner.
I am not denying that such tactics occur. Kemp talked through both sides of his mouth about masks throughout the pandemic. I watched press conferences where Kemp backed his Surgeon General while he had an interpreter for the deaf doing sign language while being masked. It was a sad PSA about continuing the state of emergency in Ga. There were also moments where you could see Kemp making appearances promoting mask wearing in Georgia.
All I can tell you is what I observe. And we heard about DeSantis early on throughout the pandemic, not just at the end. If you can show me where he was "pro mask" I would love to see it. There has to be raw footage out there somewhere showing he was a mask proponent.
Proponent and participant are two different things. I was wearing masks in Uber rides and hen at doctors offices just a few months ago. I did this because I had to see my doctor and receive treatment. Could I have not worn a mask and rolled the dice? I probably could have and who knows if they would have denied me entry to the vehicle or on the office. .
Overall politicians should not have the right to make such policies anyhow. Funny how they were constantly saying that the governor had no right to ban mandates, but would the press have had the same sentiment had he affirmed the mandates?
Do you have examples of what it says in the link here?:
"While DeSantis won’t mandate the use of masks, he has encouraged them — as has state Surgeon General Scott Rivkees — and said there would be public service announcements on masks in the coming weeks."
Most of what I see in terms of masking and DeSantis is his refusal to mandate them, and affirming people's rights to choose not to wear them, even before it became the trend not to wear the mask.
I am from Iowa but live in California. Once the “pandemic” hit, I was in Iowa visiting my parents and stayed a couple of months with them for, “just in case”…….she was criticized, but she didn’t panic and given the circumstances she did a good job. I went there often during the last 2 years because why on earth would someone stay in California!?!
I lived in Cali for 15 years. I moved to Iowa because we spent March- October of 20 here and couldn’t believe the stories my friends told me about back home in San Diego. We got back, sold our home and got the heck out!!
(I grew up in Illinois on the Illinois/Iowa border. My family is all here.)
I had a friend named Karen who was a karen. Have not seen her in a very long time, only have contact over the Email, she barely ever phones anymore, probably thought she could get sick talking over phone.
I am amazed at the number of people who, when a family member finally got Covid (because we are ALL going to get it and likely several times), they isolated that family member for two weeks, wore masks within their own homes and implemented a strict infection control policy the likes of which I hadn't seen since working with TB patients in the hospital. Just insanity. And even among friends I THOUGHT were on Team Reality, they cling to masks and just love themselves some hand sanitizer. The conditioning is effective and the anxiety is real.
All that... except for "we are ALL going to get it and likely several times"... Get what?
Get cold and flu, yes, probably. (Though I personally haven't had so much as a runny nose in more than 4 years). Get 'it'/'Covid'? Negligible. What exactly is 'it'? Only confirmed by a spurious test with a 97% false positive result rate. Testing for what, precisely? No original isolate of the 'virus', so what are they testing? Using the PCR protocols so fraudulently is still, to this day, the only thing that keeps the wheels of this monster in motion; without this, it would all have been over in summer 2020.
I've had covid twice; no shots for me. The first was in Jan 2020, before anyone had heard of it. The sickest I've been besides when I had adult chicken pox in my 30s. 2 weeks of hell. Once they started talking about covid and the symptoms, I had them all except never lost my sense of taste
Second time was Dec 2021 after Thanksgiving with the family. Another 2 weeks of hell with one trip to the ER when I had breathing difficulties.
Confirmed both cases by comparing to relatives with same symptoms (the Dec 21 case my niece confirmed hers with a pharmacy test).
Covid is indeed a real thing, but the vast mania surrounding it is sheer gaslighting...
if they had allowed the meds that cure it you probably would have been less sick. But they propagated the poison and forbid the Nobel prize winning cheap med !
Never one for playing by the rules, when I saw the direction this was going, for peace of mind I secured a stash of IVM, HCQ and Zithro through a rogue pharmacy out of India (bless them!). I was a little nervous that they were scammers but they're legit. They have doubtless saved lives. There was a phone call with a real person, I paid by e-check, and the stuff arrived in a month, by way of Singapore. This was just as the post office crackdown was getting underway. I had to laugh, thinking of the thousands of pounds of weed that get shipped out of my fair town via USPS, but oh we gotta stop these drugs! When my mate and I got what we thought was Delta last May (never tested) I was happy to have them on hand, it was a nasty bug, but by no means the worst I have ever suffered. Truth to tell, I was glad to get it over with. I followed my own protocol, mostly based on Zelenko's. Better in a few days. I think I took a day's worth of IVM, mostly relying on herbs and supplements. Oh, and I learned that a "friend", a double-masker who destroyed his health with the jab, called my work place and whispered to my boss that he "thought I had covid." Thankfully my boss doesn't buy into any of it either, and told the guy to go f- himself. What dark things this does seem bring up out of the human soul. Oh and just in case you are wondering...check out reliablerxpharmacy.com. Amazing inventory, it's like a trip to Tijuana.
Yep, me too. This was not the flu. I’m not vaxxed, 65 years old and grateful I knew enough to stay away from their kill shots. The first time I had it was Dec 2021- I felt unwell, achy in my skin, slight cough but pulse ox always good. The second time was two months ago and that was a cold . Both times I got it from my fully vaxxed families members. This is something for sure.
Replying to Ludwig and Patricia. No one is suggesting it isn’t possible to get sick. Or that colds and flus don’t travel around. But no one knows, including you, what you had. The PCR test is not accurate. The symptoms are identical to other colds. Explain to me how Omicron is a ‘variation’ of Alpha. Apparently there are 30 genetic differences between the two. (I doubt all that, by the way). Going by the narrative these two bugs were completely unlike each other as two Corona viruses can be. How did Alpha mutate into Omicron? Can you explain the steps? Can anyone show the genetic jumps, all thirty, that had to have been made? No one can. You got sick twice. From what version of what...no one knows.
I get it. I can’t possibly answer that because it’s not what I studied. But Dr. McCullough doesn’t say there is not such thing as SARS CoV 2. People who do know such things so not say it’s a nothing. I understand there is a school of thought that says we have virus’s all wrong but I don’t know what’s true. All I know is what I’ve experienced, and the experiences of others.
Yes, SARS Co-V 2 is real. Constructed and released. It does cause damage. I am constantly learning how this malady interferes with a number of biological systems and cascades. Previously, I was a little cavalier about the damage. No more the damage is real.
There are proactive things we can do, as I am sure you know, to heal and lessen the effects. But most people don’t do them.
Correction... a particularly nasty flu-like illness WAS indeed a real thing for a few months.
No virus can survive at the same stage of virulence for nearly three years through millions of mutations, ever weakening.
'Pandemic' used to mean something completely different; the WHO changed the definition.
2020 had the 6th highest all cause mortality of the past 20 years.
You and yours had a particularly nasty type of flu; this happens every year - people die with flu and pneumonia in huge, horrifying numbers every single year - they just don't turn them all into 'pandemics' in the media. Did you see people dropping down dead in the streets all around you? Because 'that' is a pandemic.
I had the Aussie flu in 2016... The Aussie flu was in all the newspapers, but no-one remembers it... I thought I was going to die.
Yep. And still using same bogus testing of now endemic whatever it is. Its madness. Planned madness. The Plandemonium. Or we're just supposed to believe that TPTB had this grand scheme of a Great Reset and were just waiting around for kismet to deliver a pathogen.
We've had Covid - at least what we believe is Covid based on positive home antigen tests - come through our house multiple times now. We have some vaxxed and some unvaxxed. The first round for me was in January 2022 (likely Omicron based on timing) when my vaxxed adult children brought it home for Christmas. I took IVM on day 2 and I would describe it as a very mild flu (though with extended fatigue). Just got over round 2 last week and the presentation was very similar and again, I took IVM on day 1 this time and it was pretty much a non-event. I had traditional flu in 2015 which was absolutely terrible and led to a full cardiac work up and I guess what could be called "Long-flu" because it took me months to return to "normal." I am 55, unvaxxed, physically fit with no underlying health issues. For whatever that is all worth. This thing - whatever it is - is real and it has certainly gotten many people sick and some quite sick. We cannot dismiss it as nothing. As others mention down-thread, imagine if those in power had actually treated the illness...
This is true. My husband had a tickly cough a couple of weeks ago. The number of people who asked him if he'd tested for covid?!! It nearly drove him insane with irritation.
Thank you. Your script runs thru my mind a couple times a day. Have you noticed that you have not heard: "... got a cold... ... have a cold ... caught a cold ... fighting off a cold..." in precisely 31 months? - not once! Closest is: "it [that word again] is just like bad cold and sore throat" ... don't people notice that disappearance of once very common usage?
I had it the first time in April 2021 and it was absolutely worse than any flu I've ever had, I was really sick for 3 weeks before I started to feel better, took months to clear completely. Full disclosure: I am overweight with HBP. I don't know what "it" is exactly but it sucked. Zero stars, do not recommend.
Second time around in April 2022 it was a cold with a bad sore throat - this version of it was much milder for me.
Sounds like exactly how I felt with the Aussie flu I had back in 2016. It nearly killed my mother that xmas, and she didn't really recover from it until the Spring. Neither of us had any other illnesses or conditions, perfectly fit and healthy.
And all that bs is actually making them sick(er). I use good ol’ soap and water. No hand sanitizer for me! It’s been used wayyyyy too much! Masks???? Pure clown world!
I worked as secretary of a lab for a while and know that these hand sanitizer gels are made with salts and several harmful chemicals. Never use them. Always read very carefully ingredients lists of shampoo and beauty products. Look up the ingredients before buying. PEG, Polysorbate, and lots of unpronouncable names - forget it !Good old bar of soap or glycerine soap.
I just mean in general. You can’t pretend to emulate a woman famous for living among lepers and then recoil in horror from people who won’t wear your wubbie
when my aunt got a very bad case of covid (she ended up in the hospital for over a week and barely made it) her husband sat next to her all the time without mask and never got it. At the hospital she was isolated. She had to have oxygen and now has what they call long covid, but probably is just damaged lung tissue. (she already had breathing problems before)
she was sick before the roll out, but took at least one jab, when it was proclaimed to be a miracle med. Most everyone 65+ took it in Europe. I don't know if she got the next ones, because she was pretty sick of that, too, and so were her daughter and son-in-law who both got sick first from the jab and then from covid LOL. Can you still believe they work if that happens ? Only if your brain is not working properly!
In the very least, they are totally unnecessary. They don't do any better job than normal soap and water - it's all about how well you wash your hands, and not touching your face - and the chemicals in them actually strip the natural barriers in your skin.
Late last spring, when our governor in Virginia lifted the mandates in public school, our private school delivered some hogwash about masks no longer being required, but if some of their (ultra-lib; scaredy) teachers ask the children to wear them, their “hope” was that the children would be respectful and comply with teachers’ requests. 🤮
I instructed my 4th and 7th grader to respond to any such requests by respectfully stating that their parents no longer permitted them to wear masks. 🙅🏻♀️
I told my highschooler to handle it as he saw fit but reminded him that acting in courage, despite what his peers & teachers do, is a leadership move that will likely empower others.
The younger kids were not asked to wear masks, though masks lingered in those grades for about 2 weeks with kids taking them off, seemingly one by one, as if testing the waters.
Only a couple of kids in the high school had their masks off the first day. Within a week, half of the kids would wear them as chin scarves, so that they could chameleon back-and-forth depending on which peer group and teacher was around. By week 3, masks were off everyone except for the super-scared.
If it wasnt apparent before, it became clear to many in my kids school that the maskers just wanted to control others, forcing them to enable their own extreme fear and anxiety.
I am so proud of you and your children. We told our 9 year old twins (when this first started in March 20') to tell the teachers to come talk to their dad if they had problems with them not wearing masks.
They were kicked out of school. We homed schooled for a month and then moved to Florida in April of 20'.
Best decision, in our lives, in more than one way.
No way I was going to have my kids cover their effing faces.
Impressive kid, your son is a 'rock!' Mask mandates work in a communist country, not USA. If you like your mask, go where it. (Then I know you're a whack job and can avoid you.) William Wallace F-R-E-E-D-O-M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Throughout always told my too kids 10 and 9, take off that damn mask. I didn't always 60/40 say 'damn' but felt it. No equivocation, they know what daddy thinks, no phony vax or mask nonsense here.
The challenge still exists. The college campuses are still pushing for them in spite of reality. It's as if college campuses are now becoming cult compounds.
I know, pains me to think this happened to my nieces. My answer: vax freedom 'shanty town' in the quad. Starts with one brave kid in a tent.... Freedom and choice against mandate/..... college kids of yesterday were all over it....gotta think will appeal.... f the conformists....give them medical studies showing harms to their futures...
See Naomi Wolf’s interview this week with a doctor regarding vac pregnancy issues. He is very technical but right in the middle bursts out, “Never take these shots during pregnancy!”
I'd create en e-book brochure detailing all the ways the mask is ineffective especially for their age group. The shanty town idea is a good one. I would create what I called an "Unsafe space" where free speech, thought, and critical thinking were allowed.
A year ago we were politely shunned at an important family gathering, told we were not welcome. And now we are not only welcome at family gatherings, we are hugged, touched, and spoken to face to face w/o masks. But nothing has changed … we are still unvxskd, and they vxskd. 🧐🥴
Navigating the forgiveness is a challenge. I forgive readily, but I would be a fool to fail to recognize that the conditions that created the previous situation have not changed, and none of the people who treated me that way have done any soul-searching. So, hard to trust.
Oh, I hear you. Some days it is easy; others, just damned difficult. We who have been granted the ability to see through this quagmire have been given much - and, so, much is expected of us. We must, of course, continue to stand firm, resolute, and be brave, and at the same time seek a forgiving heart, even (and especially) when apologies are not forthcoming. Forgiveness and kindness are two commodities in short supply right now - and they are healing. God knows how much healing is desperately needed everywhere.
And to be considered is that even when it seems no soul-searching is occurring, we never know if there are seeds germinating within. Time and more light take care of that.
I'm trying to take the opportunity to look within and see where I am susceptible to the same type of formation. I work to understand the good-faith position of the other person. But I am also careful to stay true to what I perceive as the truth.
Understood. "to stay true to what I perceive as truth": We can do both ... yes? Stay strong to the interior truth and not compromise; yet, have a forgiving heart to those who were overwhelmed by fear, dread, anxiety, insecurity, the msm, their doctors - and now struggle with the mixed messages all around them, not willing to admit they have doubts, and that they (gasp!) might have been wrong. It does not mean we have to renew friendships and become bosom buddies. We must merely seek the grace to be kind. And, in the process, lower our blood pressure :^)
I know, eh. Pride is nasty taskmaster. And most of us suffer from it in some way, so we must take that into account. Miles to go before they can absorb this whole freakin' manipulated mess. They trust/trusted doctors, pharma, and msm. It was/is difficult for them to accept that there is true evil out there - that anyone would not have their best interests at heart. A bonus from this is that perhaps folks will start to examine the world and others more closely. Look up and out.
I’d say mine are fairly rebellious compared to their peers, and I’m happy about that.
Excuse the switch in topic, but to illustrate, my 7th grader stood up to the DEI officer 🙄 during a presentation when she defined equity as “equal opportunity.”
Son: Hmm. I think you just described equality. Equity guarantees equal outcomes.
Teacher: blah blah word salad which amounted to redefining words
Son: Well, I think we can all APPLY to Yale, and that’s equality. But we’re not all going to get in! That would be equity. And our skin color shouldn’t be a factor.
"Son: Well, I think we can all APPLY to Yale, and that’s equality. But we’re not all going to get in! That would be equity. And our skin color shouldn’t be a factor."
That's the absurdity of the Common App and a reason why places like Yale can boast an acceptance rate of 5%. You can have a marginal GPA and standardized test scores but still apply to to so-called "elite" schools which a lot of rising high school seniors apparently do.
What that bedside doc (and everyone else suffering from hypochondria, OCD, paranoid delusions, and other symptoms of Covidianism) fails to remember is that after all those times he “sat bedside with zero protection,” he was FINE. He didn’t contract the plague. He didn’t pass the plague onto others. The world continued spinning as usual, and everyone went about their business. Because that’s what mentally healthy adults wearing big-people pants do.
College can’t be worth the indignities the students must suffer at the hands of people who spend most of their waking hours avoiding the reality of life. Transfer to a reasonable school. You life and future will be better.
Our daughter graduated last year. We are so incredibly relieved she took a different path than Woke U. Now in an apprenticeship, she just had her first real interview. The kind of coaching/advising she receives through this program is infinitely more valuable to real life situations than suffocating in a classroom listening to some DEI hire bloviate about climate change. For any of you with recent graduates looking for alternatives, I can't say enough about discoverpraxis.com. Our daughter will have 3+ years in the workforce likely making the kind of money her college grad friends hope to.
My then-11-year-old (now 13 - IQ 149 that he inherited from his mom) - would have no part of the mask exercise. We lived in a very mask-compliant part of Michigan at the time. He wasn't permitted to play with his friends because their parents insisted on all of the kids physically distancing and wearing masks which he refused to do. He quit Boy Scouts because the local troop insisted on taking temperatures before outdoor hikes.
Ultimately, we had to pull him from middle school to home school him because he refused to wear a mask and play along. It wasn't because it uncomfortable for him. It was because it made no sense.
He would get angry with me and accuse me of being a hypocrite (he was right) when I would wear a mask to shop in a mask-mandated store or restaurant (we had a local Qdoba that actually tried to impose a vaccine mandate before they were forced to abandon the exercise because no one would work or buy food there. They wouldn't let him in because he wouldn't wear a mask).
We moved our family to a very sane part of the south to give our sons a shot at a normal life. With Gretchen assured of re-election as Michigan's governor, we aren't looking back.
I recall a time when wearing masks in public was for bank robbers, Muslim women and Halloween. This ongoing shitshow is giving a whole new meaning to the phrase "saving face."
So if the masks do nothing (agree, they don’t) was it really all that contagious and deadly? I mean, I didn’t see any bodies piling up at the grocery store or at the college I work at .... 🤔
Well, yes it can be pretty contagious. Of course it wasn’t as deadly as it was made out to be, and would have been far less deadly if allowed to treat early with safe and proven meds.
My real point is that I don’t think it’s as easy to catch as it was made out to be, takes exposure ... passing someone in the hall won’t do it. I had someone tell me once not to jog too close behind someone cause you just never know .... could catch it
Long lines at local liquor stores during lockdown, snaking round the store. I always chuckled at those bemasked folks in line who would become bored and would casually reach over to a bottle on the shelf, pick it up, read the prose, put it down, tug at their mask, pick up another bottle unaware how many others had done same. And a reminder that nearly everything everyone picked up at department & grocery stores was touched by someone who had just finished tugging at their mask. Why is this rarely mentioned?
Yes there is plenty we don’t understand about transmissibility. My father in law never got it even while living in the same house as 4 others who had a rough go of it, and we weren’t distancing or anything anymore than you would with the flu.
Only made confusing by the intentional denial of natural immunity and T cells - only way I can explain that to myself is that it was intentional to cause more fear
They “forgot” to tell us that the vast majority who caught covid would be just fine. 99.85 or better survive, and that includes the high risk groups - elderly and already sick with something else. Most people were never at risk for anything other than an uncomfortable week. Check the IFR data if you wish to confirm.
Education is run by women. Women are more group-dependant and more emotional than men. It has been known since antiquity that women rule culture by being the caretakers of tradition, and that women rule society in secret by ruling men in private.
Want to rule society? Learn how to manipulate women as a group, and enough of them will steer or force their men in the desired direction. Advertising used it first, and politics picked it up in the 1960s.
Look at the Witch Panics of old. Women reporting eachother for having truck with the Ole' Foul One was the driving force, while the church's clergymen tried to put an end to it.
Actual misogyny. Fascinating. The one thing you have right is that politics has devolved entirely into pandering to groups. Two of those groups are men and woman, and the Democrats came up with their marketing slogan of the Republicans “war on women” to gain more female support. And the teachers union is Democrat. It worked well enough that Democrats religiously put on their masks when Trump took his off. If Trump had mandated that kids wear masks, the teachers union would have been up in arms about how it was hurting children’s learning.
I state, in accordance with known facts about our species, that women are more group-dependant and more emotional - these are facts, not opinion. Whether you think it's bad or not is on you.
Women, being physically weaker and more tied to rearing offspring during our entire history until very recently, have quite naturally become very good at social interaction with an eye to see their will done via influencing the men. Again, if you think that is bad or wrong, that's your opinion. It's simply the way we are.
And of course those who want to influence a group, any group, will pander to the lowest common denominator - there's not time enough for personal interactions with every individual. And the lowest common denominator is how we as a species have functioned for the past several tens of thousands of years - and functioned very well at that.
Nothing in my post is misogynist (look up the actual definition of the word), if anything, it's closer to misandrist as I clearly claim that it is men who are easily manipulated and ruled by the opinions of women.
What is really sad if anything is you reading things into what I wrote that solely exist in your own mind. Oppose what I stated, that's good for debate, but don't try to appear as if I said anything else but what I actually wrote.
With no explanation, you blame the covidian mask fetish on women. The blame seems to be based on some broad generalization about how women are supposed to act based on your understanding of evolutionary biology. I consider forming opinions about groups of people based on broad generalizations to be bad and wrong. To also attribute some negative societal trend on your broad generalization of a group is bigotry. So yes, misogyny is the correct term. Also, feel free to label yourself as misandrist.
More than that, I don’t see any correlation between women being more emotional and group oriented, and a societal shift towards masking and fear. The masking and fear is actively harmful to society. According to your theory, wouldn’t a woman driven society be actively discouraging masking? Instead, you just want to blame something on women because that as your default assumption. Just like your assumption that I don’t agree with you because I am “woke”.
I mean, anecdotally the largest proportion of folks I still see clinging to masks out and about are women. I'd say at least 75% possibly more. Masking was about cudgeling society through conformity into covering their faces, and women are far more likely to be less confrontational. Rikard is essentially right. Stereotypes exist for a reason - because they are largely true.
What's wrong about it then? Don't be sad, use the opportunity to state your own opinion on the matter - how else are you ever going to convince someone that they are wrong?
Good one. I'll remember it. I have some hearing loss (payback from my rocker days) and trying to understand the young checkout guys at the store who don't tend to speak clearly at the best of times, going Mmff mmff mmff behind their masks...I now say, slowly, enunciating in my most crisp, clipped private school voice, "I'm sorry, but I really cannot understand you, your voice is too muffled behind that piece of cloth." I can almost see the thought bubble - "Bitch!". Tee hee. Yup.
It is only a few days ago that Dr. Vinay Prasad suggested that the mask-fetishists, covidaholics and suchlike were not suffering from Long Covid, but rather Long Pandemic...
Looking at one of those photos I'm starting to see the appeal of the masks for those profs... Just imagine the horror of teaching to a full room of daring individuals vs. a faceless, muzzled, submissive crowd, especially if you have a bouquet of anxieties?
I teach at a college with no masks and I love it - little weird seeing faces again instead of black boxes with names but I can’t imagine going to masks now and won’t. The university around the corner from me has them and shot mandates .... the students there are being taught to follow the commands from on high
It is truly insane. My daughter's logic professor insisted that the students wear masks. Is it reasonable to question his reasoning capabilities?
I guess it's a faulty assumption to think that a person revered and learned in the science of thinking would actually have skills in that discipline. It's kind of like a banker that files for personal bankruptcy. They're only good with other peoples money and not their own.
Indeed. I noticed for several years the number of nurses--and even one physician herself--who were obese. Not much of an advertisement for healthy living.
Poor Dr. Steve. He became a doctor and now is realising something he hadn't thought of before he chose this career path: sick people are icky. Why are they cluttering up his practice? How dare they breathe at him? Being a doctor, he can take care of that pesky breathing habit if he so wishes, I suppose. Reading between the lines, he even finds people who are not actually sick to be vectors of infection, too. What a way to live. And he wants us all to live like that, too.
When I see someone still wearing a mask, it reminds me of those stories of Japanese soldiers in the 1950s still hiding out in the jungles of the Philippines believing that the war is still on.
For more than two years, I refused to wear a mask despite a number of confrontations with strangers. The mask Nazis insisted they would all just drop dead if I didn’t wear the mask, so I attempted to oblige them. It just didn’t seem to work, though. Their science must have been off.
You are 100% right. The most important thing is that regardless of intention, masks do not work.
But also: many of us are unvaxed and had covid once or even never. Many of our friends are same.
A lot of those ultra-vaccinated science-believing people are on their 3rd or 4th Covid already and they are scared out of their wits about what is happening to them. They see coughing, repeatedly ill overboosted students all day long and are scared to get reinfected again.
"Prior to October 17, faculty members will conduct an anonymous survey of their classes, either by collecting handwritten (no names!) responses to the question, 'Should masks be required in this class?' . . . If anyone in the class, including the instructor, wants to continue with masking, then masks will be required."
Protection of minority rights (sic) carried to the extreme!
Putting a mask on a person is like putting a mask on a car's tailpipe. We remove toxins through our breathing - when masked these get caught in the fabric and we end up breathing them in and out all day. Not to mention the industrial chemicals in the masks themselves, our own C02, bacteria, and the bacteria and pollution in the environment all around us.
There are also disturbing parallels between masking and losing your identity, your voice, and your sense of community. The building blocks of civilization - the comradery between men - is severely compromised with masking. You can see these effects all around you - the stitching the binds our society together is unraveling.
Not to mention that they only ever work at all when they are used properly by trained professionals. When they are not - when people constantly touch and adjust them all day long - they tend to be worse than nothing. Consider a COVID-19 infected shopper at Wal-Mart that straightens his/her mask before picking an item up off the shelf - considers it - and then returns it. That returned item is now covered with the virus - and that item will now likely infect anyone and everyone who comes in contact with it: other shoppers and Wal-Mart staff - they themselves who are also likely employing improper mask wearing.
https://tritorch.com/Maskerade
Who am I kidding, masks do not work at all to stop viruses, a friend of mine spent countless hours putting together the most extensive and comprehensive report you are likely to find anywhere on the subject:
https://c19science.info/COVID-19_Masks.pdf
Any questions you have about the safety and efficacy of masking will be fully answered upon examining the above document. In summary: masks are not effective nor safe. Their toxicity envelops both mind and body. Stay away from them.
Finally, ABC reports a 364% Surge in baby and toddler speech therapy referrals due to masking:
https://bitchute.com/video/SCpz3FFkDgKs
OMG. During the entire pandemic husband and I saw many health care professionals for ailments. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM couldn't keep their hands off their masks!!!!! I would fixate on their mask tugging to the point of distraction.
and we were told that when you touch your mask it becomes useless ! Haha.
I turn off most Youtube films and docs when I see masked people, which makes that I usually only watch pre mid-2020 films, or better even, animal films.
I worked in a couple of hospitals in 2012-2014. I also remember that you only touch the mask to throw it to the toxic waste bin and then you must wash your hands thoroughly 🤷🏽
My experience as well. Especially one doc in particular, super nice guy. I think he was unaware of what he was doing because he was so focused on effective communication which he instinctively knew wasn't possible through the mask.
I wanted to speak to my surgeon after having cancer surgery. He made me keep my (fake mask) mask ON. I wasn’t even able to speak to him one on one about some serious issues. The medical cartel is alive and quite well. Sickening!
Trained professionals
Exactly
Except, the whole "surface argument" about viruses has proven not to be true either. This preoccupation with washing our hands and the things we touch is based on the misplaced idea that the virus stays on surfaces a lot longer than it does and remains viable. Washing our hands after going to the bathroom is a good idea, don't get me wrong, and it shows a degree of respect for others to do so, but the excessive washing and disinfecting will not serve us well. Our immune systems were built to withstand a certain level of germs. And again, the virus isn't that deadly to most people anyway, so why are we focused so hard and fast on removing any trace of it? The solution is already available: our immune systems.
@Jimmy- agreed
Do they work even by trained professionals? Those supposed medical mask boxes state they do not prevent infection. That is not my understanding but I could be wrong.
Dr. Linda, you got it. Not only do they not work as stated on the box they come in:
https://tritorch.com/noEfficacy
But they are worse than nothing because most people can't leave them alone while wearing them.
Very few people wear them correctly, that is if they worked, but since they don't, it's all theater.
When required to wear a mask at the GP surgery I deliberately pull and adjust the damn thing, often. I can't believe some people haven't caught on that masks are nothing but a form of control.
The indicator as to how effective they are. Ask a surgeon if they will do surgery or will postpone it if the person being operated on has a communicable disease.
Hold on a minute. A surgeon wearing a mask for an operation may be appropriate for his job. But enforcing mask rules for the populace is tyranical and there is enough evidence showing masks to be harmful to health. The covid narrative has been a lie perpetrated by weak minded individuals without an ethical bone in thei bodies.
A surgeon knows that the mask, although appropriate for surgery, will not prevent a virus from infecting him. He wears the mask for a particular purpose to prevent splash back from an open wound as well as anything to infect the open would from his mouth, such as the droplets from the mouth that they were so freaking afraid of since the inception of the pandemic. The droplets can cause infection, that much is certain, but this whole preoccupation with them for so many months after the beginning of the pandemic was so pretentious.
Most people who used the masks traditionally, such as people who work in mines, those who use the N95's in toxic situations or to protect from small particulates know that the masks are not 100% effective. Talk to any of them and they will tell you hat after wearing a mask for a couple hours and removing it, some particles manage to get through on even the most well-fitting masks, and that's just the particles you can see.
I agree what El Gato Malo has said, that we appear to be at the moment, ruled by those who don't even realize they are perpetuating a fiction.They are a victim of the self perpetuation engine that has gotten away from them and is no longer under their control. It is at this moment the question becomes, what do you do when the toddler has taken the wheel of a car. Either two things happen, either an adult can step in and take the wheel, or that car is going to do some damage to itself as well as some serious collateral damage.
In the case of this analogy, the car is government, and in this case when we do wrest control back, we could dismantle the car and make it less destructive as well as child proof it, which I believe the founding documents were meant to do. Our two errors were building back bigger, and removing and getting around all the childproof features.
I'd argue no. This too has been studied: there was a lower post-op infection rate among surgeries that were unmasked. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1853618/
Before a recent surgery for my husband, I asked the surgeon if he will wear a mask during surgery. His answer surprised me! He said that he knows they don't wear masks in surgery in England, but they are required to do so here. He said he would like to evaluate 'no masks' for some surgeries here, but he cannot. His honest answer gave me much more confidence in him.
I would absolutely prefer a surgeon operating on me to have full cognitive function and not have his brain clouded by even a small increase in CO2 levels from wearing a mask.
I would argue (backed by studies) that masks don’t work when employed by “trained professionals,” either. At least one large study, pre-Covid, failed to demonstrate any reduction in flu transmission when nurses wore properly fitted N95’s. Good luck rooting out the link for this study. It’s buried under years worth of Covid observational “studies.” 😉
This is the study. It is more-than-important. JAMA. 2019;322(9):824-833.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214
N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel:
A Randomized Clinical Trial
I think there is a study that predates that, but I can't remember enough about it to find it.
Yeah - that study is buried. But how about this one? The CDC is pushing N95 masks through hospital systems that want to validate and enable the irrational fear of their patients. But they're no more effective than the blue pollutants you see all over the place. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6724169/
To this I have to say something. NEVER in my life have I been a "litter bug," but I despise the damn masks so much, I will throw them on the damn floor as I am walking out of the hospital, where they have still been required. Let them pick them up!
This one also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8072811
Thanks, DrDweeb!
Great resource! Thanks for all the documentation. I’m fortunate to live in a county where very few bought the BS. Quite frankly, the few that we see still masked I look at and think 1. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they just went through chemo, and 2. Swiftly followed by, these folks are either virtue signaling or just ignorant of the facts. Either way, they are to be pitied.
Even in many parts of the home/unschooling world, this became a badge of virtue and source of division. My kids were having none of it, but my teen was distressed at how many of his friends went along or all-in. It caused some real rifts, but they are healing (mostly because he was unrelentingly rational, kind, and uncompromising about his bodily autonomy, which turned out to be more attractive, long run, than the neurotic wubbie-wearing webelieve posse that had seized the podium).
I wonder if we would have torn it down. I like to think so, but we never faced the challenge.
On the other hand, we all learned,
You Gotta Fight
For Your Right
To Paaaaarty
Sarah, I can remember that moron, David Hogg, saying that even if masks were no longer required, he would continue to wear one so that no one would think he was a Republican or Trump supporter. No doubt TONS of others feel the same. And I’m sure they’re all “vax’d” & boosted up the whazoo.
I’m all for it - all of you Karens & Kens rebreathe your CO2 & have snot, sweat & other secretions & bacteria plastered to your face & revel in your superiority in having wrecked your immune system.
I just laugh when I see these mentally ill mask wearing morons. I was at a college football game this past Saturday, 70k in the stands. There was 1 guy double masked sitting a few rows up from me. I’ll I could think what kind of idiot wears those fucking things in a huge crowd of people in 90 degree weather???? El gato made a great comparison, calling it his “woobie” I’ve been calling them an adult “paci”. Reminds me of my son when he was 8 months old that just needed to suck on his pacifier to get himself to sleep.
I do shake my head when I see the behavior, similar to the Uber driver with the lucite divider between the front and back seat of their car. they are wearing a mask even after the mandates have been lifted. But I do not blame them. They have been saturated with PSA's and news reports 24/7 for years. It's amazing more people have not succumbed to it.
from your cloth we will know who you are. Good idea Cindi! But the last few months even my most woke friends have stopped wearing them. Only a few, most young women, are wearing them hereabouts. Yesterday I saw a woman walk in a quiet street all alone with a mask on. I just had to laugh.
Ingrid, I, too, still see people walking alone in the open air or alone in their cars wearing their tribal talisman, but much less than some months ago. I’ve gotten to the point that I just want to yell “moron” @ them but I don’t.
I predict the mask “tribe” will reassemble for Fall & the usual cold/flu/cough season is here
UG. For two and a half years, I've had visions of the muzzles catching on fire and burning to cinders right on the faces of the eejits. If that shite comes back around here the temptation to carry my flame thrower with me everywhere I go may overwhelm my common sense.......
I say more power to ‘em if that’s their jam to re-inhale CO2 & bacteria into their lungs….
And then we’ll know who to avoid again 😂
It's much more effective to point and laugh than to shout something at them.
The self-owns have clown wigs for their clown wigs
"neurotic wubbie-wearing webelieve posse" ohhhh, that's good. Really good.😍
I haven't been a huge fan of many a politician for a long time. I think DeSantis and Noem are notable exceptions. Kemp, our governor here in Georgia is lame in my opinion as well as he spoke out of both sides of his mouth concerning masking, so I have lost all respect for him, but Abrams although far more articulate than Kemp is much worse, considering her beliefs concerning ultrasound equipment.
The idea of wearing a mask as a sign of solidarity against "orange man bad" sounds like like removing the nose to spite the face. But here's the thing they should begin to ask themselves. If they are willing to embrace a behavior that has no grounding in reality simply out of spite for someone they find repugnant, then what else have they incorporated into their belief system that deviates from reality. Could their hatred actually also be based on delusion as well?
I agree about Kemp. But I will vote for him because he is the least of 2 bad. Abrams is digging her own grave. Saying Georgia is the worst state to live in and pose with a class of masked toddlers unmasked turned me off. Her declaring she would have locked down until the virus went away and promoting jab mandates having been sick of them herself did no good either. Declaring you should get them even if you could not spare the money for staying home sick.... Well that did not make a good impression. Kemp vaguely promoted but did notpress. I like him for trying to raise minimum wage. She would have run my small business friends into the ground.
Amen! Their hatred of Trump binds these politicians together and it’s lunacy!
DeSantis wore his mask like a good boy until the end of the pandemic. Then he flip-flopped and tried to pretend he never did. As a Floridian, I can confirm he is often not what he appears to be and often mis-represents his actions or takes credit for things he didn't actually do. The people of Florida (many of them at least) refused the mask and the vaccine, not DeSantis. He's all for promoting them like his masters demand.
Can you show me where he is promoting mask wearing?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ron+desantis+masks&atb=v314-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DN9syRGE51HE
This news story appears to indicate he was against mandates.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ron+desantis+masks&atb=v314-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DVRAo_84WlZ8
And then there is a follow up story where it sounds like a judge is rebuking DeSantis for his stand against mask mandates in schools.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ron+desantis+masks&atb=v314-1&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqRKyOs0NVUg
Early on in 2020 Kemp actually reopened things faster in Georgia, but DeSantis leap-frogged over Georgia in terms of the conditions for opening, and it quickly became obvious who was up on the science regarding the Covid related restrictions. There are also numerous reports from various doctors and scientists against the narrative at how well-informed DeSantis was on Covid. He started out early with adhering to restrictions, but changed directions when it became obvious who was vulnerable to disease.
https://www.flgov.com/2021/04/12/governor-ron-desantis-holds-roundtable-with-public-health-experts-to-discuss-big-tech-censorship/
Now maybe all of these stories are fake, but I am more likely to believe in them as they were reported early and often precisely because they were against the narrative.
This isn't to say I am onboard with any politician making these policy decisions. The smartest thing DeSantis said was the parents should have the right to decide what their children should get to do in terms of masks.
Can you show me where he denied adherence to the mandates?
In an effort to make himself seem like he's an opposition figure, he was on-board with promoting de-centralized mask mandates throughout much of the pandemic. This is often a trick the right-wing establishments likes to pull to claim plausible deniability for their "outsider" figures. Only when Floridians largely stopped wearing them did he pretend to take credit for "abolishing" the mandates. However, by also wearing his mask until the end and then trying to flip-flop, he showed his true colors.
"While DeSantis won’t mandate the use of masks, he has encouraged them — as has state Surgeon General Scott Rivkees — and said there would be public service announcements on masks in the coming weeks."
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/342399-ron-desantis-says-masks-should-be-voluntary/
edit: also adding, not specifically about your links but related to them, most of DeSantis' press conferences or media stories are based on misconceptions or slights-of-hand. You wouldn't necessarily know unless you lived here and were keyed into our politics for a long time. Like I said, he has a history of misrepresenting himself in a very scummy manner.
I am not denying that such tactics occur. Kemp talked through both sides of his mouth about masks throughout the pandemic. I watched press conferences where Kemp backed his Surgeon General while he had an interpreter for the deaf doing sign language while being masked. It was a sad PSA about continuing the state of emergency in Ga. There were also moments where you could see Kemp making appearances promoting mask wearing in Georgia.
All I can tell you is what I observe. And we heard about DeSantis early on throughout the pandemic, not just at the end. If you can show me where he was "pro mask" I would love to see it. There has to be raw footage out there somewhere showing he was a mask proponent.
Proponent and participant are two different things. I was wearing masks in Uber rides and hen at doctors offices just a few months ago. I did this because I had to see my doctor and receive treatment. Could I have not worn a mask and rolled the dice? I probably could have and who knows if they would have denied me entry to the vehicle or on the office. .
Overall politicians should not have the right to make such policies anyhow. Funny how they were constantly saying that the governor had no right to ban mandates, but would the press have had the same sentiment had he affirmed the mandates?
Do you have examples of what it says in the link here?:
"While DeSantis won’t mandate the use of masks, he has encouraged them — as has state Surgeon General Scott Rivkees — and said there would be public service announcements on masks in the coming weeks."
Most of what I see in terms of masking and DeSantis is his refusal to mandate them, and affirming people's rights to choose not to wear them, even before it became the trend not to wear the mask.
Kim Reynolds did a good job. She doesn’t get much credit but she didn’t mandate anything for a very long time. And quickly ended it.
I can attest to your comment MrsS!
I am from Iowa but live in California. Once the “pandemic” hit, I was in Iowa visiting my parents and stayed a couple of months with them for, “just in case”…….she was criticized, but she didn’t panic and given the circumstances she did a good job. I went there often during the last 2 years because why on earth would someone stay in California!?!
I lived in Cali for 15 years. I moved to Iowa because we spent March- October of 20 here and couldn’t believe the stories my friends told me about back home in San Diego. We got back, sold our home and got the heck out!!
(I grew up in Illinois on the Illinois/Iowa border. My family is all here.)
I go back and forth, as I am the only person in my family who left……good for you for getting out of SD…..I live in the OC….
Just saw an ex-friend/Karen this last weekend. She actually was NOT wearing a mask! I was shocked and amazed.
I had a friend named Karen who was a karen. Have not seen her in a very long time, only have contact over the Email, she barely ever phones anymore, probably thought she could get sick talking over phone.
Give her a couple weeks when people start coughing & sneezing 🤣
I am amazed at the number of people who, when a family member finally got Covid (because we are ALL going to get it and likely several times), they isolated that family member for two weeks, wore masks within their own homes and implemented a strict infection control policy the likes of which I hadn't seen since working with TB patients in the hospital. Just insanity. And even among friends I THOUGHT were on Team Reality, they cling to masks and just love themselves some hand sanitizer. The conditioning is effective and the anxiety is real.
All that... except for "we are ALL going to get it and likely several times"... Get what?
Get cold and flu, yes, probably. (Though I personally haven't had so much as a runny nose in more than 4 years). Get 'it'/'Covid'? Negligible. What exactly is 'it'? Only confirmed by a spurious test with a 97% false positive result rate. Testing for what, precisely? No original isolate of the 'virus', so what are they testing? Using the PCR protocols so fraudulently is still, to this day, the only thing that keeps the wheels of this monster in motion; without this, it would all have been over in summer 2020.
I've had covid twice; no shots for me. The first was in Jan 2020, before anyone had heard of it. The sickest I've been besides when I had adult chicken pox in my 30s. 2 weeks of hell. Once they started talking about covid and the symptoms, I had them all except never lost my sense of taste
Second time was Dec 2021 after Thanksgiving with the family. Another 2 weeks of hell with one trip to the ER when I had breathing difficulties.
Confirmed both cases by comparing to relatives with same symptoms (the Dec 21 case my niece confirmed hers with a pharmacy test).
Covid is indeed a real thing, but the vast mania surrounding it is sheer gaslighting...
if they had allowed the meds that cure it you probably would have been less sick. But they propagated the poison and forbid the Nobel prize winning cheap med !
Never one for playing by the rules, when I saw the direction this was going, for peace of mind I secured a stash of IVM, HCQ and Zithro through a rogue pharmacy out of India (bless them!). I was a little nervous that they were scammers but they're legit. They have doubtless saved lives. There was a phone call with a real person, I paid by e-check, and the stuff arrived in a month, by way of Singapore. This was just as the post office crackdown was getting underway. I had to laugh, thinking of the thousands of pounds of weed that get shipped out of my fair town via USPS, but oh we gotta stop these drugs! When my mate and I got what we thought was Delta last May (never tested) I was happy to have them on hand, it was a nasty bug, but by no means the worst I have ever suffered. Truth to tell, I was glad to get it over with. I followed my own protocol, mostly based on Zelenko's. Better in a few days. I think I took a day's worth of IVM, mostly relying on herbs and supplements. Oh, and I learned that a "friend", a double-masker who destroyed his health with the jab, called my work place and whispered to my boss that he "thought I had covid." Thankfully my boss doesn't buy into any of it either, and told the guy to go f- himself. What dark things this does seem bring up out of the human soul. Oh and just in case you are wondering...check out reliablerxpharmacy.com. Amazing inventory, it's like a trip to Tijuana.
I did the same getting IVM and HCQ. I haven’t been sick in YEARS at 59! I take great supplements and get lots of sunshine.
Yep, me too. This was not the flu. I’m not vaxxed, 65 years old and grateful I knew enough to stay away from their kill shots. The first time I had it was Dec 2021- I felt unwell, achy in my skin, slight cough but pulse ox always good. The second time was two months ago and that was a cold . Both times I got it from my fully vaxxed families members. This is something for sure.
Replying to Ludwig and Patricia. No one is suggesting it isn’t possible to get sick. Or that colds and flus don’t travel around. But no one knows, including you, what you had. The PCR test is not accurate. The symptoms are identical to other colds. Explain to me how Omicron is a ‘variation’ of Alpha. Apparently there are 30 genetic differences between the two. (I doubt all that, by the way). Going by the narrative these two bugs were completely unlike each other as two Corona viruses can be. How did Alpha mutate into Omicron? Can you explain the steps? Can anyone show the genetic jumps, all thirty, that had to have been made? No one can. You got sick twice. From what version of what...no one knows.
I often think of the Axe analogy. You replace the handle, then 6 months later you replace the head. Is it still the same Axe?
Covid is the same way... After how many variants will it still be "Covid-19"?
I get it. I can’t possibly answer that because it’s not what I studied. But Dr. McCullough doesn’t say there is not such thing as SARS CoV 2. People who do know such things so not say it’s a nothing. I understand there is a school of thought that says we have virus’s all wrong but I don’t know what’s true. All I know is what I’ve experienced, and the experiences of others.
Yes, SARS Co-V 2 is real. Constructed and released. It does cause damage. I am constantly learning how this malady interferes with a number of biological systems and cascades. Previously, I was a little cavalier about the damage. No more the damage is real.
There are proactive things we can do, as I am sure you know, to heal and lessen the effects. But most people don’t do them.
Correction... a particularly nasty flu-like illness WAS indeed a real thing for a few months.
No virus can survive at the same stage of virulence for nearly three years through millions of mutations, ever weakening.
'Pandemic' used to mean something completely different; the WHO changed the definition.
2020 had the 6th highest all cause mortality of the past 20 years.
You and yours had a particularly nasty type of flu; this happens every year - people die with flu and pneumonia in huge, horrifying numbers every single year - they just don't turn them all into 'pandemics' in the media. Did you see people dropping down dead in the streets all around you? Because 'that' is a pandemic.
I had the Aussie flu in 2016... The Aussie flu was in all the newspapers, but no-one remembers it... I thought I was going to die.
I’ve had flus so bad I thought I could die. Probably five or ten times in my life. Not for decades. But this is typical. Long colds happen every year.
We never talked about them. But every year someone would have whatever is going around and just can’t shake it for 6 weeks to three months.
Yep. And still using same bogus testing of now endemic whatever it is. Its madness. Planned madness. The Plandemonium. Or we're just supposed to believe that TPTB had this grand scheme of a Great Reset and were just waiting around for kismet to deliver a pathogen.
I had whooping cough once. Worse than any covid. We all could die of any respiratory illness.
We've had Covid - at least what we believe is Covid based on positive home antigen tests - come through our house multiple times now. We have some vaxxed and some unvaxxed. The first round for me was in January 2022 (likely Omicron based on timing) when my vaxxed adult children brought it home for Christmas. I took IVM on day 2 and I would describe it as a very mild flu (though with extended fatigue). Just got over round 2 last week and the presentation was very similar and again, I took IVM on day 1 this time and it was pretty much a non-event. I had traditional flu in 2015 which was absolutely terrible and led to a full cardiac work up and I guess what could be called "Long-flu" because it took me months to return to "normal." I am 55, unvaxxed, physically fit with no underlying health issues. For whatever that is all worth. This thing - whatever it is - is real and it has certainly gotten many people sick and some quite sick. We cannot dismiss it as nothing. As others mention down-thread, imagine if those in power had actually treated the illness...
You have to be careful. I had a terrible flu in early 2020 that i thought was covid until i actually caught covid in 2021.
people have forgotten that a fall cold is a very common thing. Covid is more fashionable!
This is true. My husband had a tickly cough a couple of weeks ago. The number of people who asked him if he'd tested for covid?!! It nearly drove him insane with irritation.
I have a few nose related allergies, and have to sneeze quite often. The faces LOL. Strength to your poor hubby !
Thank you. Your script runs thru my mind a couple times a day. Have you noticed that you have not heard: "... got a cold... ... have a cold ... caught a cold ... fighting off a cold..." in precisely 31 months? - not once! Closest is: "it [that word again] is just like bad cold and sore throat" ... don't people notice that disappearance of once very common usage?
I had it the first time in April 2021 and it was absolutely worse than any flu I've ever had, I was really sick for 3 weeks before I started to feel better, took months to clear completely. Full disclosure: I am overweight with HBP. I don't know what "it" is exactly but it sucked. Zero stars, do not recommend.
Second time around in April 2022 it was a cold with a bad sore throat - this version of it was much milder for me.
I'm unvaxxed.
Sounds like exactly how I felt with the Aussie flu I had back in 2016. It nearly killed my mother that xmas, and she didn't really recover from it until the Spring. Neither of us had any other illnesses or conditions, perfectly fit and healthy.
And all that bs is actually making them sick(er). I use good ol’ soap and water. No hand sanitizer for me! It’s been used wayyyyy too much! Masks???? Pure clown world!
I worked as secretary of a lab for a while and know that these hand sanitizer gels are made with salts and several harmful chemicals. Never use them. Always read very carefully ingredients lists of shampoo and beauty products. Look up the ingredients before buying. PEG, Polysorbate, and lots of unpronouncable names - forget it !Good old bar of soap or glycerine soap.
YOU GOT IT Ingrid!
People quietly pulling down those Mother Theresa quotes off their social media profiles…
Which were those?
I just mean in general. You can’t pretend to emulate a woman famous for living among lepers and then recoil in horror from people who won’t wear your wubbie
when my aunt got a very bad case of covid (she ended up in the hospital for over a week and barely made it) her husband sat next to her all the time without mask and never got it. At the hospital she was isolated. She had to have oxygen and now has what they call long covid, but probably is just damaged lung tissue. (she already had breathing problems before)
Did she have any of the jabs? Because that adds a whole other story to 'long covid', too.
she was sick before the roll out, but took at least one jab, when it was proclaimed to be a miracle med. Most everyone 65+ took it in Europe. I don't know if she got the next ones, because she was pretty sick of that, too, and so were her daughter and son-in-law who both got sick first from the jab and then from covid LOL. Can you still believe they work if that happens ? Only if your brain is not working properly!
And what about the cancers from the toxic hand sanitizers???
In the very least, they are totally unnecessary. They don't do any better job than normal soap and water - it's all about how well you wash your hands, and not touching your face - and the chemicals in them actually strip the natural barriers in your skin.
Good for your teen!!
Late last spring, when our governor in Virginia lifted the mandates in public school, our private school delivered some hogwash about masks no longer being required, but if some of their (ultra-lib; scaredy) teachers ask the children to wear them, their “hope” was that the children would be respectful and comply with teachers’ requests. 🤮
I instructed my 4th and 7th grader to respond to any such requests by respectfully stating that their parents no longer permitted them to wear masks. 🙅🏻♀️
I told my highschooler to handle it as he saw fit but reminded him that acting in courage, despite what his peers & teachers do, is a leadership move that will likely empower others.
The younger kids were not asked to wear masks, though masks lingered in those grades for about 2 weeks with kids taking them off, seemingly one by one, as if testing the waters.
Only a couple of kids in the high school had their masks off the first day. Within a week, half of the kids would wear them as chin scarves, so that they could chameleon back-and-forth depending on which peer group and teacher was around. By week 3, masks were off everyone except for the super-scared.
If it wasnt apparent before, it became clear to many in my kids school that the maskers just wanted to control others, forcing them to enable their own extreme fear and anxiety.
That sounds like codependency to me. No thanks.
chin scarves!!!
I am so proud of you and your children. We told our 9 year old twins (when this first started in March 20') to tell the teachers to come talk to their dad if they had problems with them not wearing masks.
They were kicked out of school. We homed schooled for a month and then moved to Florida in April of 20'.
Best decision, in our lives, in more than one way.
No way I was going to have my kids cover their effing faces.
Impressive kid, your son is a 'rock!' Mask mandates work in a communist country, not USA. If you like your mask, go where it. (Then I know you're a whack job and can avoid you.) William Wallace F-R-E-E-D-O-M!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Throughout always told my too kids 10 and 9, take off that damn mask. I didn't always 60/40 say 'damn' but felt it. No equivocation, they know what daddy thinks, no phony vax or mask nonsense here.
Can't be clear for anyone else if you aren't clear for yourself!
The challenge still exists. The college campuses are still pushing for them in spite of reality. It's as if college campuses are now becoming cult compounds.
I know, pains me to think this happened to my nieces. My answer: vax freedom 'shanty town' in the quad. Starts with one brave kid in a tent.... Freedom and choice against mandate/..... college kids of yesterday were all over it....gotta think will appeal.... f the conformists....give them medical studies showing harms to their futures...
See Naomi Wolf’s interview this week with a doctor regarding vac pregnancy issues. He is very technical but right in the middle bursts out, “Never take these shots during pregnancy!”
I'd create en e-book brochure detailing all the ways the mask is ineffective especially for their age group. The shanty town idea is a good one. I would create what I called an "Unsafe space" where free speech, thought, and critical thinking were allowed.
A year ago we were politely shunned at an important family gathering, told we were not welcome. And now we are not only welcome at family gatherings, we are hugged, touched, and spoken to face to face w/o masks. But nothing has changed … we are still unvxskd, and they vxskd. 🧐🥴
Navigating the forgiveness is a challenge. I forgive readily, but I would be a fool to fail to recognize that the conditions that created the previous situation have not changed, and none of the people who treated me that way have done any soul-searching. So, hard to trust.
Oh, I hear you. Some days it is easy; others, just damned difficult. We who have been granted the ability to see through this quagmire have been given much - and, so, much is expected of us. We must, of course, continue to stand firm, resolute, and be brave, and at the same time seek a forgiving heart, even (and especially) when apologies are not forthcoming. Forgiveness and kindness are two commodities in short supply right now - and they are healing. God knows how much healing is desperately needed everywhere.
And to be considered is that even when it seems no soul-searching is occurring, we never know if there are seeds germinating within. Time and more light take care of that.
I'm trying to take the opportunity to look within and see where I am susceptible to the same type of formation. I work to understand the good-faith position of the other person. But I am also careful to stay true to what I perceive as the truth.
Understood. "to stay true to what I perceive as truth": We can do both ... yes? Stay strong to the interior truth and not compromise; yet, have a forgiving heart to those who were overwhelmed by fear, dread, anxiety, insecurity, the msm, their doctors - and now struggle with the mixed messages all around them, not willing to admit they have doubts, and that they (gasp!) might have been wrong. It does not mean we have to renew friendships and become bosom buddies. We must merely seek the grace to be kind. And, in the process, lower our blood pressure :^)
Same.
Where is the apology?
I know, eh. Pride is nasty taskmaster. And most of us suffer from it in some way, so we must take that into account. Miles to go before they can absorb this whole freakin' manipulated mess. They trust/trusted doctors, pharma, and msm. It was/is difficult for them to accept that there is true evil out there - that anyone would not have their best interests at heart. A bonus from this is that perhaps folks will start to examine the world and others more closely. Look up and out.
Uh… midterms. They’re planning on rioting.
They were against the masks until they realized masking helped the rioters of 2020, and started mandating them.
Why are they mandating them again?…
Because they’re going to lose seats in the midterm.
I am thinking the Beastie Boys song is all our mottos!
It seems like there is little sense of rebellion in this generation. Mine wouldn’t have had any of it.
I’d say mine are fairly rebellious compared to their peers, and I’m happy about that.
Excuse the switch in topic, but to illustrate, my 7th grader stood up to the DEI officer 🙄 during a presentation when she defined equity as “equal opportunity.”
Son: Hmm. I think you just described equality. Equity guarantees equal outcomes.
Teacher: blah blah word salad which amounted to redefining words
Son: Well, I think we can all APPLY to Yale, and that’s equality. But we’re not all going to get in! That would be equity. And our skin color shouldn’t be a factor.
"Son: Well, I think we can all APPLY to Yale, and that’s equality. But we’re not all going to get in! That would be equity. And our skin color shouldn’t be a factor."
That's the absurdity of the Common App and a reason why places like Yale can boast an acceptance rate of 5%. You can have a marginal GPA and standardized test scores but still apply to to so-called "elite" schools which a lot of rising high school seniors apparently do.
What that bedside doc (and everyone else suffering from hypochondria, OCD, paranoid delusions, and other symptoms of Covidianism) fails to remember is that after all those times he “sat bedside with zero protection,” he was FINE. He didn’t contract the plague. He didn’t pass the plague onto others. The world continued spinning as usual, and everyone went about their business. Because that’s what mentally healthy adults wearing big-people pants do.
💯🙌🏻
That's what got me too--like, ummm, and here you are, alive and kicking, bro, so what's the problem?
THIS is the example of person society holds up as educated, and able to think critically? THIS is their thought process?
(I know, I know, of course it is.)
SMH
🎯
College can’t be worth the indignities the students must suffer at the hands of people who spend most of their waking hours avoiding the reality of life. Transfer to a reasonable school. You life and future will be better.
Our daughter graduated last year. We are so incredibly relieved she took a different path than Woke U. Now in an apprenticeship, she just had her first real interview. The kind of coaching/advising she receives through this program is infinitely more valuable to real life situations than suffocating in a classroom listening to some DEI hire bloviate about climate change. For any of you with recent graduates looking for alternatives, I can't say enough about discoverpraxis.com. Our daughter will have 3+ years in the workforce likely making the kind of money her college grad friends hope to.
My then-11-year-old (now 13 - IQ 149 that he inherited from his mom) - would have no part of the mask exercise. We lived in a very mask-compliant part of Michigan at the time. He wasn't permitted to play with his friends because their parents insisted on all of the kids physically distancing and wearing masks which he refused to do. He quit Boy Scouts because the local troop insisted on taking temperatures before outdoor hikes.
Ultimately, we had to pull him from middle school to home school him because he refused to wear a mask and play along. It wasn't because it uncomfortable for him. It was because it made no sense.
He would get angry with me and accuse me of being a hypocrite (he was right) when I would wear a mask to shop in a mask-mandated store or restaurant (we had a local Qdoba that actually tried to impose a vaccine mandate before they were forced to abandon the exercise because no one would work or buy food there. They wouldn't let him in because he wouldn't wear a mask).
We moved our family to a very sane part of the south to give our sons a shot at a normal life. With Gretchen assured of re-election as Michigan's governor, we aren't looking back.
He sounds like an interesting kid.
I recall a time when wearing masks in public was for bank robbers, Muslim women and Halloween. This ongoing shitshow is giving a whole new meaning to the phrase "saving face."
The masks come in handy for lootathons too!
Noticed that, have you?
No bail. No fail. No cop. No stop.
So if the masks do nothing (agree, they don’t) was it really all that contagious and deadly? I mean, I didn’t see any bodies piling up at the grocery store or at the college I work at .... 🤔
Well, yes it can be pretty contagious. Of course it wasn’t as deadly as it was made out to be, and would have been far less deadly if allowed to treat early with safe and proven meds.
My real point is that I don’t think it’s as easy to catch as it was made out to be, takes exposure ... passing someone in the hall won’t do it. I had someone tell me once not to jog too close behind someone cause you just never know .... could catch it
Long lines at local liquor stores during lockdown, snaking round the store. I always chuckled at those bemasked folks in line who would become bored and would casually reach over to a bottle on the shelf, pick it up, read the prose, put it down, tug at their mask, pick up another bottle unaware how many others had done same. And a reminder that nearly everything everyone picked up at department & grocery stores was touched by someone who had just finished tugging at their mask. Why is this rarely mentioned?
Oh for sure
Yes there is plenty we don’t understand about transmissibility. My father in law never got it even while living in the same house as 4 others who had a rough go of it, and we weren’t distancing or anything anymore than you would with the flu.
Only made confusing by the intentional denial of natural immunity and T cells - only way I can explain that to myself is that it was intentional to cause more fear
Good comment!
Holy cow! America’s finest
They “forgot” to tell us that the vast majority who caught covid would be just fine. 99.85 or better survive, and that includes the high risk groups - elderly and already sick with something else. Most people were never at risk for anything other than an uncomfortable week. Check the IFR data if you wish to confirm.
Why the surprise?
Education is run by women. Women are more group-dependant and more emotional than men. It has been known since antiquity that women rule culture by being the caretakers of tradition, and that women rule society in secret by ruling men in private.
Want to rule society? Learn how to manipulate women as a group, and enough of them will steer or force their men in the desired direction. Advertising used it first, and politics picked it up in the 1960s.
Look at the Witch Panics of old. Women reporting eachother for having truck with the Ole' Foul One was the driving force, while the church's clergymen tried to put an end to it.
Actual misogyny. Fascinating. The one thing you have right is that politics has devolved entirely into pandering to groups. Two of those groups are men and woman, and the Democrats came up with their marketing slogan of the Republicans “war on women” to gain more female support. And the teachers union is Democrat. It worked well enough that Democrats religiously put on their masks when Trump took his off. If Trump had mandated that kids wear masks, the teachers union would have been up in arms about how it was hurting children’s learning.
In what way is it misogynistic?
I state, in accordance with known facts about our species, that women are more group-dependant and more emotional - these are facts, not opinion. Whether you think it's bad or not is on you.
Women, being physically weaker and more tied to rearing offspring during our entire history until very recently, have quite naturally become very good at social interaction with an eye to see their will done via influencing the men. Again, if you think that is bad or wrong, that's your opinion. It's simply the way we are.
And of course those who want to influence a group, any group, will pander to the lowest common denominator - there's not time enough for personal interactions with every individual. And the lowest common denominator is how we as a species have functioned for the past several tens of thousands of years - and functioned very well at that.
Nothing in my post is misogynist (look up the actual definition of the word), if anything, it's closer to misandrist as I clearly claim that it is men who are easily manipulated and ruled by the opinions of women.
What is really sad if anything is you reading things into what I wrote that solely exist in your own mind. Oppose what I stated, that's good for debate, but don't try to appear as if I said anything else but what I actually wrote.
In other words, don't be woke.
With no explanation, you blame the covidian mask fetish on women. The blame seems to be based on some broad generalization about how women are supposed to act based on your understanding of evolutionary biology. I consider forming opinions about groups of people based on broad generalizations to be bad and wrong. To also attribute some negative societal trend on your broad generalization of a group is bigotry. So yes, misogyny is the correct term. Also, feel free to label yourself as misandrist.
More than that, I don’t see any correlation between women being more emotional and group oriented, and a societal shift towards masking and fear. The masking and fear is actively harmful to society. According to your theory, wouldn’t a woman driven society be actively discouraging masking? Instead, you just want to blame something on women because that as your default assumption. Just like your assumption that I don’t agree with you because I am “woke”.
I mean, anecdotally the largest proportion of folks I still see clinging to masks out and about are women. I'd say at least 75% possibly more. Masking was about cudgeling society through conformity into covering their faces, and women are far more likely to be less confrontational. Rikard is essentially right. Stereotypes exist for a reason - because they are largely true.
As a woman I think it’s accurate to point out that some women are toxic.
Eh, misogyny isn't real.
Yes!
Even more fascinating, he got 5 likes for his analysis. Sad...
What's wrong about it then? Don't be sad, use the opportunity to state your own opinion on the matter - how else are you ever going to convince someone that they are wrong?
He would have gotten 6 likes if Substack had allowed my click on the heart. Don't understand why the limiting up votes (i.e. clicking on the heart).
“Ma’am, I’d love to hear what you are saying behind that mask but all I can decipher is Baaaaaa, Baaaaaa!! 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
Good one. I'll remember it. I have some hearing loss (payback from my rocker days) and trying to understand the young checkout guys at the store who don't tend to speak clearly at the best of times, going Mmff mmff mmff behind their masks...I now say, slowly, enunciating in my most crisp, clipped private school voice, "I'm sorry, but I really cannot understand you, your voice is too muffled behind that piece of cloth." I can almost see the thought bubble - "Bitch!". Tee hee. Yup.
I just keep saying " what, I'm sorry what ,what" until they finally pull the mask down to answer me........really pisses them off!!😉
Yeah, that one's gratifying, too.
Hilarious!
It is only a few days ago that Dr. Vinay Prasad suggested that the mask-fetishists, covidaholics and suchlike were not suffering from Long Covid, but rather Long Pandemic...
The more “elite” the university, the more demoralized it is. Maskachussetts is the worst state in the union. https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-get-into-harvard-part-2
Looking at one of those photos I'm starting to see the appeal of the masks for those profs... Just imagine the horror of teaching to a full room of daring individuals vs. a faceless, muzzled, submissive crowd, especially if you have a bouquet of anxieties?
I teach at a college with no masks and I love it - little weird seeing faces again instead of black boxes with names but I can’t imagine going to masks now and won’t. The university around the corner from me has them and shot mandates .... the students there are being taught to follow the commands from on high
It is truly insane. My daughter's logic professor insisted that the students wear masks. Is it reasonable to question his reasoning capabilities?
I guess it's a faulty assumption to think that a person revered and learned in the science of thinking would actually have skills in that discipline. It's kind of like a banker that files for personal bankruptcy. They're only good with other peoples money and not their own.
My doctor's office now employs a PA. She's borderline morbidly obese and she's giving me health advice...
I've had that experience as well and have since given up on healthcare providers. Most push pills and are essentially state sanctioned drug dealers.
Indeed. I noticed for several years the number of nurses--and even one physician herself--who were obese. Not much of an advertisement for healthy living.
I was surprised to see, on my first visit, my alternative M.D. obese. Fortunately I don't need to visit a doctor very often.
Poor Dr. Steve. He became a doctor and now is realising something he hadn't thought of before he chose this career path: sick people are icky. Why are they cluttering up his practice? How dare they breathe at him? Being a doctor, he can take care of that pesky breathing habit if he so wishes, I suppose. Reading between the lines, he even finds people who are not actually sick to be vectors of infection, too. What a way to live. And he wants us all to live like that, too.
Imagine a doctor being around sick people. Ludicrous idea!!
When I see someone still wearing a mask, it reminds me of those stories of Japanese soldiers in the 1950s still hiding out in the jungles of the Philippines believing that the war is still on.
For more than two years, I refused to wear a mask despite a number of confrontations with strangers. The mask Nazis insisted they would all just drop dead if I didn’t wear the mask, so I attempted to oblige them. It just didn’t seem to work, though. Their science must have been off.
You are 100% right. The most important thing is that regardless of intention, masks do not work.
But also: many of us are unvaxed and had covid once or even never. Many of our friends are same.
A lot of those ultra-vaccinated science-believing people are on their 3rd or 4th Covid already and they are scared out of their wits about what is happening to them. They see coughing, repeatedly ill overboosted students all day long and are scared to get reinfected again.
This may partially explain their mask hysterics.
Mask policy at Amherst College in Massachusetts:
https://www.amherst.edu/news/covid-19/community-messages/other/node/855509
"Prior to October 17, faculty members will conduct an anonymous survey of their classes, either by collecting handwritten (no names!) responses to the question, 'Should masks be required in this class?' . . . If anyone in the class, including the instructor, wants to continue with masking, then masks will be required."
Protection of minority rights (sic) carried to the extreme!
Collectivism in action. One person's issue is nationalized and passed on to everyone to bear.
Tyranny of the minority.
A majority of one.
Yep!! That’s what my kids high school said in spring… luckily, they’ve backtracked from that, and masks are optional for all.