Indeed, Ryan. The first time I saw Fauci step in front of a mic, I thought, "Oh, fuck, here we go." Did no one remember how he completely botched the AIDS crisis in the 80s? It surprised me that that little hobgoblin was still around.
People have very short memories. If you were alive in the 1970's surely you remember that it was global cooling rather than warming that was going to destroy the earth. And the overpopulation theory was spread far and wide as well. I think the reason this hoax did not fly was the Internet was not in use and the WEF had just been created so Klaus Schawb and his band of demons did not have the money and power they do now.
"I think the reason this hoax [overpopulation, global cooling] did not fly was the Internet was not in use..." Good point. We have gotten into this habit of believing the Internet can be our salvation, but in many ways it's part of the problem.
Everything made by man has been used for both good and for evil. Unfortunately, it seems to me, more people than ever are convinced that evil is good. Unless something tragic personally happens to them they don't seem to want to assess what they read or hear as good or bad and if it sounds good or their peers accept it, they do as well.
There are many people who do bother to conduct their own research and are skeptical of supposed fact checkers as most are known to be liars. But those are the people who are censored so it seems as though everyone simply believes whatever they read online or hear on a newscast.
Indeed, it was even in printed and vetted school-books.
Part of the propaganda over here at the time was "Be nice to the negros in Africa, because when the ice comes we will have to move there", as if a 3 mile high sheet of ice would appear overnight.
My favourites though were these classics:
People starve in India, Africa, wherever because /you/ eat too much!
and
All water will run out because people take too many showers and flush the toilet every time they use it.
And this was mainly spread by female teachers in the lower grades.
With respect, Dr. Fauci did not botch the AIDS crisis. He used the same playbook then--almost chapter and verse--as he used now. He promoted treatments that enriched him. He grandstanded in a way that enhanced his position. He was treated like a politician when he spouted BS, but like a shaman when he made the next pronouncement. This was ALL pretty much the same, except with a new "existential threat" that he, and only he, was capable of thwarting on our behalf. What a shameless POS he is. (And you know what? It worked again. I saw him interviewed on TV the other week. Treated like a hallowed protector of life! Many of my friends still respect him, and the CDC. The CDC?)
Exactly, Ryan! Laughing like The Joker, all the way to the bank. Playing chess while we play checkers. Enjoying the fruits of the long game while we fight to not have to wear a mask on the effing bus. I want to be optimistic, I really do, but almost nothing I have witnessed during the Great Covid Dumpster Fire makes me hopeful. They are discussing deploying an mRNA vaccine in animals, IIRC. Moderna has TV spots where they openly state, "this vaccine is not approved by the FDA, but is approved under EUA. Please ask your doctor." Back in May of 2020, when I wrote my first piece about the lunacy of Social Distancing and Lockdowns, I was SURE this BS would be over in a few months. It has been 3+ years and idiotic bureaucrats like Francis Collins are JUST NOW half-admitting partial mistakes? Sorry to vent, but as I have said for a couple years now... #WeAreSoScrewed
Yeah. Butternut Saskatoon we can take solace in the fact that we weren't sheep.
Why?
1. We were not afraid to be wrong. And we were not afraid to call WRONG wrong. We were willing to stand up to social tyranny. In other words; we had balls.
2. Curiosity
3. Empathy
4. We were willing to pay the price. Many, many people feared losing something (job, social relationships, Costco privileges,etc). The fear of losing something is the biggest motivator known to mankind. It will launch a thousand hideous ships of terror.
5. I suspect most accepted how it would end; knowing that resistance was done for your freedom but also that of others...and that there would be no credit and everyone would choose to learn nothing and want to move on and that we would be accused of not moving on.
6. Knowing that the only thing worse than being shamed was to be a coward
7. I also suspect most of us simply could not pretend that nobody else was pretending.
I'm not afraid to be wrong, but I knew I wasn't wrong in this case. Not one bit. I am still astounded, and I will be till the day I die, that they got away with this because it was SO FREAKIN OBVIOUS it was all a lie. The most disturbing thing to me was not that some people with power lied -- they lie all the freakin time -- but the extent to which the conspirators conspired -- no "conspiracy theory" here but "conspiracy FACT" -- was, and still is, mind blowing and destroyed any illusions I had about the inherent goodness of human beings. Turns out most people are either more than willing to lie on behalf of evil, but are also very happy to accept any stupid lies the powerful people tell them.
It was worse, by orders of magnitude, than the lying that led to the mass murder of the people of Iraq in 2003.
The world of man is even more "fallen" than anything I could have believed even at my most negative and pessimistic.
Man's fallen nature has been and will always be consistent. What held it in check was the fact that most people believed in a higher power than themselves. But as time went on, the evil thinkers gained more influence and people began to reject this belief and transferred their hope to science and technology. And both have been used nefariously to convince people that their happiness depends upon hurting others and taking all power unto themselves because they don't believe there is any life after that upon earth so materialism and selfishness prevail. As more people have lost the ability to see others as worthy human beings, they will do anything to destroy them.
As Dr. James Thorp pointed out: "The most important question you need to ask your nurse or your doctor, whether it's in a hospital or in an office, is: 'Nurse, Doctor, are you willing to lose your job to save my life?'"
Before the dreaded Cooooooooovvvvviiiiiidddd, I didn't know that doctors went by the Hypocritical Oath: First, see no patients. Poor health care professionals, having to deal with those icky sick people!
I had an argument with my rheumatologist when she insisted I get one of the bioweapon jabs and I told her that she needs to find another profession. I will never see her again. BTW, she is Chinese.
He's telling you.his opinion but when you try to give yours, it's "I don't want to argue about it" when he doesn't have an answer. The arrogance of doctors knows no bounds.
I forgot to mention ... after this ... I printed out a summary of the Nuremburg Code ... then made a list of every doctor in our town (there are a few dozen) and sent that to every single one of them... including Dr Val.
Here's the thing... if Kirsch etc were not false actors... they would be organizing grass roots stuff like that mail out... In addition to suggesting Kirsch offer Dover 1M for an interview (got banned for that) I also suggested he have PI determine if she alive... and I suggested he organize the printing of small stickers with messages like Covid Vaccines Destroy Your Heart .... Cause Blood Clots etc... then put them online and allow folks to order packs of 100 cost + shipping... and invite them to stick them in washrooms stalls and other places where there are no cameras ...
But nope. Nothing. Instead he leads the A Vaxxers round and round in circles ensuring they take no real action
Yes- my first visit back ( & last as it turned out) to my doctor for my annual checkup was in 6/2021. Of course masks were required & the recommendations were to get Covid, tetanus, shingles & pneumonia vaccines. I said all at once? He said sure. Never went back.
There’s a lot of licensing that shouldn’t be a thing. The licensed electrician that I had to hire for a house addition was terrible. I couldn’t use my contractor, who was an excellent electrician, because he wasn’t licensed in my city. It’s all about money.
I would agree--except, there needs to be some way of knowing whether the person you hired to do the job is competent. Just because someone says that they know how to do electrical work, plumbing, or any other similar repair work doesn't necessarily mean that they actually do know how to do that kind of work. At least with a licensed professional you do have some kind of recourse should they mess up. The unlicensed guy down the street who is buddies with your neighbor, good luck. I've seen too many friends get burned by going that route. They thought they'd save a few bucks and hassle and ended up hiring a more expensive professional to clean up the mess that their cheaper, unlicensed "friend" made.
Your answer is in your comment. Word of mouth. References. Like people relied on for eternity before the 20th century credentialism took hold. Caveat empor. Always do your own research. Licensing is about money, not quality or competence.
Just because one has a license doesn't mean they are competent. Your have fraudulent state inspectors. I had an outside water faucet leak and called a licensed plumber. He told me I'd have to tear out one of my bathroom walls to fix it. I told him he was nuts. His assistant called me aside and told me he was quitting this company because they are crooked. I had a friend look at the faucet and he said all it needed was a gasket and he replaced it for me. I have had no further leaks.
Not trusting your doctor and being skeptical of hospitals is a win that came out of the whole thing for many people. In other words, eyes were opened to the truth: doctors and hospitals are for emergency use only. It's never been a good idea to trust them with your health. That's what food is for. Despite many being caring and well intentioned people, doctors are ensconced in a system that doesn't have our best interests at heart. And we saw clearly how, as individuals, they're more interested in preserving their lifestyle than in helping patients make good decisions.
My eyes opened up about the medical community back in 2005 when I read an article entitled "Change the number, create a disease". The article was about the change in values for "normal" blood pressure, cholesterol levels and osteoporosis lowering them all which informed doctors that they needed to begin prescribing drugs for millions more people while creating a brand new category called osteopenia, or pre-osteoporosis so people would get more tests sooner rather than later. What I realized is this was all about money for the drug companies and those doing the tests for osteoporosis and a method of creating fear. Since then I have avoided doctors and any and all things the CDC has recommended.
For me it was 2013. I developed several chronic conditions. When nothing showed up in my blood work and specialists were of no help, I was offered antidepressants and made to feel like it was all in my head though I wasn't depressed. I never went back.
That started me on a journey towards genuinely good health through diet that has changed my life in every way.
Now I'm grateful for the advanced warning that the system has no understanding of what creates health.
Anthony Fauci was awarded the Frank A. Calderone Prize, the most prestigious honor in public health, at an April 27 ceremony in Alumni Auditorium on the Columbia University Irving Medical Center campus.
This is what they do. They don't just wreck everything and then disclaim responsibility. They rub our noses in it by giving each other rewards.
Just watch. In a few months, Claudine Gay will be feted for her bravery in facing down the scurrilous attacks she has faced in the wake of her Hamas fecklessness and plagiarism scandal.
Exactly right! What you so accurately describe is nothing less than their utter contempt and hatred for humanity as a whole, including the ones showering rewards on them; they are evil players in a game they control on many levels and find never-ending satisfaction in OPENLY carrying out their nefarious deeds to feed insatiable egos and psychopathy.
Most doctors are beholden to the CDC and the FDA as they are the only "valid" purveyor's of "health care" that is acceptable and if any doctor dared to go outside of their rules, they would face a malpractice suit or be fired and that is why most of them were afraid to tell the truth. Their careers are more important than their patients.
It's hard to stand one's own. EGM expressed this yesterday (and on other occasions; it seems relevant to understanding the abrogations of our liberties [I think I used that word correctly; let me know pls -Pi]) with the Abiline Paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox.
People will agree even when they're pretty confident that it's the wrong thing to do.
they, like politicians, should have to fight, physically, to get and hold their position. The top jobs should be fight to the death! It would make for really good entertainment and people would be more thoughtful about who they ask to run.
Agree! i’m against capital punishment--but for any semblance of justice and accountability, this piece of shit along with his sidekick Runt Fauci must be face capital punishment! Francis is diabolical--“starting with his leading the underlying foundational scam the genesis of the “human genome project!”
Yes, because under Crimes Against Humanity/Murder laws, the facts and evidence are abundant these "leaders" KNEW (or should have known if they choose to argue stupidity) these were lies KNOWN TO BE FALSE AS THEY WERE TOLD. Documentation sufficient for any reasonable person to withdraw consent and demand arrests: https://carlbherman.blogspot.com/2021/09/essay-to-100-teacher-colleagues-for-red.html
Persons who were forced to watch their friends and family die in isolation should have their names entered in a lottery.
Winners will have the opportunity to, as those responsible for this catastrophe (Cuomos, Fauxi, hundreds more) struggle and dance at the end of the rope, have at the bodies with golf clubs, machetes, baseball bats, or whatever implements will yield the greatest entertainment value.
The gallows ought to tour the US with a different staffer hanged in each locality until they are no more.
Finish in the PNW so that it can be re-purposed for the antifa and BLM terrorists who will undoubtedly riot - give the police carte blanche to subdue the individual without killing him/her, then a public hanging for each one ala the Sioux indians in Mankato, Minnesota in 1862.
Then with respect I submit that you have yet to reflect with sufficient depth and humility on how completely fractured our society has been by these events.
Yeah I agree. This can not be forgiven in that way.
But have no doubt they will not even get a slap on the hand.
If that's the case; I don't plan to forgive these monsters unless they understand they escaped crimes punishable by execution. And should expect no forgiveness...only scorn.
There's less chance of that happening then them receiving justice.
So I accept that I will never forgive them. I'm fine with that because those bastards aren't worthy of letting unforgiveness affect us.
“nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get in the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge, and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man who knows where it hurts is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialized character.”
"We are paid to be experts, we're regarded as wise, and we are in charge of making decisions but we failed to consider all the possible consequences of our decision. Trust us though, we're experts at what we do."
How can they be mistakes when they held a planning committee on a new virus 3 months before the same virus that they were talking about was released? There were no mistakes made because most countries were following the same plan.
Yes I’ve read her brilliant essay on mistakes. It should be obvious to everyone that this show was long planned out to happen by looking at all the previous administration’s legislation to get us to this point as Katherine Watts has detailed. Many thanks to her work.
Tons of fraud taking that “Covid money” that they were handing out like candy. Imagine a country of 330 million and I saw 1 business owner-that gym in NJ stand up to these people. I’m sure there were some others but not nearly enough. They were happy to close there shops and apply for that Covid green.
Yes, it was an existential failure on a massive scale; but it was a crisis demanding individual response and sacrifice and we saw rare occasions of this, even to this day; rather than coming up with such rationalizations as "mass formation" or "mass hypnosis", there was real evidence of collective stupidity, a deliberate blindness and absence of independent and critical thought; populations world-wide were suffering from a loss of identity and sovereignty which made them extremely vulnerable to all forms of propaganda; again, where there were rare exceptions it was because of leaders who were faithful to historical values and belief in nationhood; other "leaders" were soulless brain-dead followers of a globalist agenda who saw themselves as part of a special elite; unfortunately they could count on the collectively stupid electorate to keep voting for them; this will again be the strategy to dupe the voters in coming elections with the ultimate goal of eliminating elections altogether because we will then be ruled by a one-world government.
First they try to soft sell the "Mistakes were made" premise.
Once they're simply _mistakes_, then "Hey *shrug* Why don't we just let bygones be bygones. Start fresh, clean slate. And, of course, trust us next time."
Even if we took him at his word, and believed that they somehow didn’t consider the knock-on effects of lockdowns...We would also have to believe that neither he, as the head of the NIH, or anyone who worked for him had ever previously considered what their response would be to a pandemic. Insultingly unbelievable.
remember when Fauci was asked this at a congressional hearing and he claimed that he was not "qualified" to answer?!!!!...after he refused to answer it multiple times and had the audacity to act as if his earpiece wasn't working.
I am so curious to see what tactics Fauci will use at his upcoming interviews after the first of the year - will it be more refusals to answer and feigning technical difficulties? Or a new ploy?
No to serving time, yes for executions. These people committed inhuman crimes against every person in the USA. They forced loved ones to die alone forcibly seperated from family members. They arrested, fined and forcibly shut business owners for trying to keep their businesses open and employees employed. They shut down religious services under the guise of "prevention". And they forced experimental vaccines on children who were not even at risk from covid. I want all of them put against a wall and shot dead for their crimes against humanity.
They killed the children/teens who Od'ed from despondent depressions, masked crying toddlers on airplanes (because we must still fly in a "deadly" pandemic or the airlines/shareholders will collapse--and they did and we bailed them out) and grandparents with dementia died alone in hospital beds. Calm and reason will not prevail with these sociopaths, it's a war now, and we can't vote or reason our way out. Firing squads it is.
An 11-year-old boy in our school district killed himself because of the tyrannical "don't visit with anyone outside your household" orders in Michigan that kept arbitrarily being extended until it seemed life would go on like that forever.
Interestingly, right after his death, the governor changed the rules to "allow" people to visit each other, as long as they followed a bunch of arbitrary and useless rituals.
You are certainly correct that they are responsible for more mass suffering than any other Americans I can think of in the past 50 years. No question...
How about the governors who forced nursing homes to take covid patients who then infected and killed the old folks living there? I consider that mass murder. And Fauci and all the others who created this virus and insured its virulence in the Wuhan lab? That is also mass murder. Why should we pay to feed and house these mass murderers or allow the possibility that they may do it again? For the good of humanity they should be exterminated.
One of the public health officials who killed so many seniors in homes with that forced admittance policy has risen high on this--Admiral Rachel Levine.
All you cite is true--but you seem to want to leave out the part about justice. Let them be convicted in a court of law. Let them stand before a jury of their peers, have their misdeeds exposed, find them culpable and let that jury do its work. What you're suggesting, while certainly a point of view I've held in my passionate moments, isn't how our country will heal and learn.
If there is real justice in this country then why haven't a single one of them been arrested and prosecuted? Why haven't all those involved in the Russian Dossier fraud been arrested and prosecuted for sedition? Our phony justice system is totally corrupt and rotten to the core.
Yep, that's true--and exposes the other side of this problem. But of all the things we can do to repair it, I don't believe that simply grabbing those who we think are responsible and stringing them up is going to lead to a better future. I own completely that I don't have all the answers to that. But I know for certain that at the heart of all of this is to "follow the money." The corruption is there because our govt., which is sworn not to do such things, engages in accepting bribes and lobbying money on a regular basis. Both sides of the aisle--all elected officials.
I agree. They should forfeit all of their assets and be allowed the minimum SS for the rest of their lives. All assets of the evildoers should go to a fund to assist people hurt by their policies.
I have often thought the best punishment for Hillary would be to be forced to live in a NYC crack building for the rest of her life. Living on welfare. Should anyone help her in any way they too have to do a stint there.
Hello300 - I was about to post this exact, same thing! Any profits they made from their dealings needs to be turned back to those who have been harmed.
For particular folks named above, executions seem appropriate. For the lessers, there may be some question as to guilt so a more lenient punishment might suit. And the "justice" system being imperfect, there will be some who appear guilty but will be exonerated by evidence disclosed or discovered later.
While I appreciate that you feel as you do, I would ask in return that you don't decide how I feel, either. We don't all think and feel the same. I believe you have a right to yours and I'll protect and admire that. I ask the same in return.
My comment may have come off a little abrupt. I meant no disrespect. To me, the meme at the end, "they're doing it again because you didn't hang them last time" is the foundational truth in all this. Any other response simply emboldens these psychopaths to become even more psychotic. Unlike you or me (and, I assume I'm not mischaracterizing you), they will never feel remorse for their actions, they're incapable of it.
Thank you for that. I agree with you--the meme at the end has some validity. But I want to deal in realities at some level. If we want to uphold American values and keep them moving forward, we have to charge and try these people and should they be found guilty (which I think is all but certain), they should be punished accordingly. If for some reason they are found not guilty, then it will be up to the public to ostracize and shun them. Already, the court of public opinion puts almost no sway in "the science" anymore. Public health is at an all time low for trust--as it should be in my view, and I think recent data--the real thing that we all know was completely fabricated when the illegal lockdowns were happening--show that something like three percent of Americans have taken the latest booster. Where you and I absolutely agree is that those responsible (Collins, Fauci, Birx, Public Health et. al) need to be held accountable.
I agree. They also behaved treasonously in that they greatly harmed the country they claimed to be defending, while knowing what they did was harmful. A hanging offense, IMO.
I want to see Birx pilloried in various sites around the nation in the worst way. She openly admits and chortles over lying to Trump. She deserves more than a few rotten tomatoes to the face.
And her reward: Deborah L. Birx, M.D., was appointed Chief Executive Officer of Armata on July 10, 2023. Prior to joining Armata, Dr. Birx served as a member of Innoviva's Board of Directors from March 2021 until July 2023.
While I understand the sentiment, I think it's important to rise above at some level and not sink down to their level. Collins, Fauci, et. al. did what they did with no regard for the Constitution, the liberty of free people, or even the truth about their virus and their "vaccine." Rather than "giving them a taste of --quite literally--their own medicine. I'd rather they were perp walked each day to court and face a trial.
I tend to agree & special provisions made that ALL of their finances are frozen & anyone who was within their circle, their finances are frozen & a sliding scale of "needs to be seen" justice is served, paid for, in the first instance, by them. These creatures who have no real God, will, imo, take the gas themselves. 👍🇦🇺
I’m not sure it is - how bad to live in the squalor of a prison with no hope of getting out - that you will sue in a square cement block eating terrible food. Where someone ELSE determines what you do and when you do it.
And at the end - you still wind up in a toasty toasty place.
This is the guy who not only participated in covering up the lab leak but who also wrote in an email to Fauci that the Great Barrington Declaration written by three "fringe" epidemiologists needed a "quick and devastating published takedown." Surely, mistakes were made.
This part of Collin's apologia is so much bulls..t. See Ivermectin. If he was interested in saving one person, that would have been approved, millions of times over.
That's the only ones they'll agree to participate in. Questions approved ahead of time, right to censor out anything that might be incriminating before airing.
Mistakes were made because these so called experts refused to listen to those who posed alternative approaches. They suppressed them violating science debate and consensus decision making. These were not mistakes, they were deliberate decisions.
"....so you attach infinite value to stopping the disease and saving a life..."
Insane. If one person dies that justifies billions of wealth, lives of other people being ruined.
We could stop all fatal car accidents if the speed limit was 3mph, roll cages and helmets and firesuits were involved. However,.nobody wants to do that because the cost > benefit.
Well, the plan is to ban private vehicles to save the climate.
Only state functions and select functionaires, be they state or corporate, will be allowed private means of transportation. Probably, you'll be allowed a bicycle if you qualify for a license.
That's the goal.
That's always been the goal ever since the struggle for popular democracy started in the late 18th century: to return to the state of serfdom as great a percentage of the populace as possible.
I'm a public health guy, and this is not public health. This is delusional incompetence. The REAL public health guys were the signatories of the Gt Barrington Declaration, including me and many others.
We know this, if they’re making conciliatory comments it’s because they’re worried. Without the pressure from free commentators and researchers they wouldn’t be doing this at all.
Executions are required for justice to be served.
If just one of them received this treatment - this would stop.
We both know they will only receive a sternly worded letter (rebuke implied but not officially stated).
However - as a result - I do not trust my doctor and I will be very skeptical of hospitals from this day forward.
What pisses me off to no end is that this was THE EASIEST CALL ALL TIME!
Indeed, Ryan. The first time I saw Fauci step in front of a mic, I thought, "Oh, fuck, here we go." Did no one remember how he completely botched the AIDS crisis in the 80s? It surprised me that that little hobgoblin was still around.
People have very short memories. If you were alive in the 1970's surely you remember that it was global cooling rather than warming that was going to destroy the earth. And the overpopulation theory was spread far and wide as well. I think the reason this hoax did not fly was the Internet was not in use and the WEF had just been created so Klaus Schawb and his band of demons did not have the money and power they do now.
"I think the reason this hoax [overpopulation, global cooling] did not fly was the Internet was not in use..." Good point. We have gotten into this habit of believing the Internet can be our salvation, but in many ways it's part of the problem.
Everything made by man has been used for both good and for evil. Unfortunately, it seems to me, more people than ever are convinced that evil is good. Unless something tragic personally happens to them they don't seem to want to assess what they read or hear as good or bad and if it sounds good or their peers accept it, they do as well.
Its not the “internet” per se. It is the tech companies whose business model is selling the ability to shape public perception to the highest bidder.
The age of information is actually the age of misrepresentation and deception.
Everyone online is a supposed 'expert'. No one bothers to conduct their own research and even determine the qualifications of the 'fact checkers'.
Succumbing to mass deception is succumbing to self-demise
There are many people who do bother to conduct their own research and are skeptical of supposed fact checkers as most are known to be liars. But those are the people who are censored so it seems as though everyone simply believes whatever they read online or hear on a newscast.
Indeed, it was even in printed and vetted school-books.
Part of the propaganda over here at the time was "Be nice to the negros in Africa, because when the ice comes we will have to move there", as if a 3 mile high sheet of ice would appear overnight.
My favourites though were these classics:
People starve in India, Africa, wherever because /you/ eat too much!
and
All water will run out because people take too many showers and flush the toilet every time they use it.
And this was mainly spread by female teachers in the lower grades.
With respect, Dr. Fauci did not botch the AIDS crisis. He used the same playbook then--almost chapter and verse--as he used now. He promoted treatments that enriched him. He grandstanded in a way that enhanced his position. He was treated like a politician when he spouted BS, but like a shaman when he made the next pronouncement. This was ALL pretty much the same, except with a new "existential threat" that he, and only he, was capable of thwarting on our behalf. What a shameless POS he is. (And you know what? It worked again. I saw him interviewed on TV the other week. Treated like a hallowed protector of life! Many of my friends still respect him, and the CDC. The CDC?)
well, exactly, don't forget the elites just awarded themselves a nobel prize for a non-vaxx-vaxx.
they're just mocking us Wiltster.
Exactly, Ryan! Laughing like The Joker, all the way to the bank. Playing chess while we play checkers. Enjoying the fruits of the long game while we fight to not have to wear a mask on the effing bus. I want to be optimistic, I really do, but almost nothing I have witnessed during the Great Covid Dumpster Fire makes me hopeful. They are discussing deploying an mRNA vaccine in animals, IIRC. Moderna has TV spots where they openly state, "this vaccine is not approved by the FDA, but is approved under EUA. Please ask your doctor." Back in May of 2020, when I wrote my first piece about the lunacy of Social Distancing and Lockdowns, I was SURE this BS would be over in a few months. It has been 3+ years and idiotic bureaucrats like Francis Collins are JUST NOW half-admitting partial mistakes? Sorry to vent, but as I have said for a couple years now... #WeAreSoScrewed
Fauci didn't botch it, it was deliberate.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/02/02/anthony-fauci-director-of-the-national-institute-of-allergy-and-infectious-diseases-niaid-and-the-chief-medical-advisor-to-the-president/
I kinda think that's evidence that their failures were not accidental.
As Sage says, they didn’t forget how to STEM, they didn’t forget how to science.
LOL
Boom
... and blind obedience, willful ignorance, and bulldog malocclusion is NOT a defense!
Yeah. Butternut Saskatoon we can take solace in the fact that we weren't sheep.
Why?
1. We were not afraid to be wrong. And we were not afraid to call WRONG wrong. We were willing to stand up to social tyranny. In other words; we had balls.
2. Curiosity
3. Empathy
4. We were willing to pay the price. Many, many people feared losing something (job, social relationships, Costco privileges,etc). The fear of losing something is the biggest motivator known to mankind. It will launch a thousand hideous ships of terror.
5. I suspect most accepted how it would end; knowing that resistance was done for your freedom but also that of others...and that there would be no credit and everyone would choose to learn nothing and want to move on and that we would be accused of not moving on.
6. Knowing that the only thing worse than being shamed was to be a coward
7. I also suspect most of us simply could not pretend that nobody else was pretending.
I'm not afraid to be wrong, but I knew I wasn't wrong in this case. Not one bit. I am still astounded, and I will be till the day I die, that they got away with this because it was SO FREAKIN OBVIOUS it was all a lie. The most disturbing thing to me was not that some people with power lied -- they lie all the freakin time -- but the extent to which the conspirators conspired -- no "conspiracy theory" here but "conspiracy FACT" -- was, and still is, mind blowing and destroyed any illusions I had about the inherent goodness of human beings. Turns out most people are either more than willing to lie on behalf of evil, but are also very happy to accept any stupid lies the powerful people tell them.
It was worse, by orders of magnitude, than the lying that led to the mass murder of the people of Iraq in 2003.
The world of man is even more "fallen" than anything I could have believed even at my most negative and pessimistic.
I agree. My premise is that we weren't inhibited by the fear of being wrong.
But, yes it was so OBVIOUS. Which made it even the more frustrating when you tried to explain the obvious...and you get mid distance blank stares.
Man's fallen nature has been and will always be consistent. What held it in check was the fact that most people believed in a higher power than themselves. But as time went on, the evil thinkers gained more influence and people began to reject this belief and transferred their hope to science and technology. And both have been used nefariously to convince people that their happiness depends upon hurting others and taking all power unto themselves because they don't believe there is any life after that upon earth so materialism and selfishness prevail. As more people have lost the ability to see others as worthy human beings, they will do anything to destroy them.
I was wrong in that I thought there were enough adults in the room in the "cathedral" to let calmer heads prevail.
I like being wrong .. and happy to admit I was wrong if the facts dictate a change of mind...
That way I am always right. Always. (unless the facts change again).
I don't understand why most people get angry and lash out when they are proved wrong... and refuse to change their position...
How bizarre.
If our "Leaders" (not our Betters) already understand this about humans, perhaps it's why they have no remorse culling the population!
I played enough pretend games as a kid.
I recognized it for what it was. I also saw the many things that just didn't make any sense.
I'm almost 70. It helped me recast a lot of my life. I thought I was awake & wise all those years!
Good list!
It will launch a thousand hideous ships of terror.
Rich image! Helen as a Gorgon, or maybe the Kraken.
Yes. It's interesting Faustus is similar to Fauci, in name, and they both conjured demons.
Which is what reveals it to be intentional.
Exactly.
But it also reveals what exceptional people we have here and on other stacks
Have been suspicious of my doctor since the time he entered the examination room in full hazmat gear. That was 2020.
lol. for a respiratory virus he/she thought they could hide from!
if it wasn't so tragic it'd be hilarious
That is not a doctor I'd want to be consulting about anything!!
As Dr. James Thorp pointed out: "The most important question you need to ask your nurse or your doctor, whether it's in a hospital or in an office, is: 'Nurse, Doctor, are you willing to lose your job to save my life?'"
Ooh that's a good one
It is of great concern when you see a doctor and you realise you understand more about disease than they do.
How about the dermatologist (here) that did a yearly full body skin cancer check from across the room!
LMAO! No way, lol. I beg you to say more!
I’m serious! Happened to a good friend with the dermatologist I used. I changed dermatologist!
That shouldn’t even be billable
Informs you that skin cancer, detection and treatment, is a lie. Other safer ways to diagnose and treat what they call skin cancer.
🤣
Make that all cancer. As I had my own experience with the NHS I have some insider knowledge.
Before the dreaded Cooooooooovvvvviiiiiidddd, I didn't know that doctors went by the Hypocritical Oath: First, see no patients. Poor health care professionals, having to deal with those icky sick people!
Hypocritical oath: I am using that at my next appointment
Perhaps this might be helpful.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/the-hippocratic-oath-what-is-it-now
Hypocritic oafs the lot of them.
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/the-hippocratic-oath-what-is-it-now
It was when my doctor encouraged me to get the vaccine and had no real good answers for my reasons not to get an experimental injection.
I had an argument with my rheumatologist when she insisted I get one of the bioweapon jabs and I told her that she needs to find another profession. I will never see her again. BTW, she is Chinese.
Here's what happened when I went to a GP to try to get Hydroxy (I taped it haha)
https://www.mixcloud.com/fasteddynz/vaccine-injury-discussion/
He's telling you.his opinion but when you try to give yours, it's "I don't want to argue about it" when he doesn't have an answer. The arrogance of doctors knows no bounds.
This is epic.
I forgot to mention ... after this ... I printed out a summary of the Nuremburg Code ... then made a list of every doctor in our town (there are a few dozen) and sent that to every single one of them... including Dr Val.
Here's the thing... if Kirsch etc were not false actors... they would be organizing grass roots stuff like that mail out... In addition to suggesting Kirsch offer Dover 1M for an interview (got banned for that) I also suggested he have PI determine if she alive... and I suggested he organize the printing of small stickers with messages like Covid Vaccines Destroy Your Heart .... Cause Blood Clots etc... then put them online and allow folks to order packs of 100 cost + shipping... and invite them to stick them in washrooms stalls and other places where there are no cameras ...
But nope. Nothing. Instead he leads the A Vaxxers round and round in circles ensuring they take no real action
Yes- my first visit back ( & last as it turned out) to my doctor for my annual checkup was in 6/2021. Of course masks were required & the recommendations were to get Covid, tetanus, shingles & pneumonia vaccines. I said all at once? He said sure. Never went back.
Western medicine is only about two things-pharmaceuticals and surgery.
That's it. Succinct
💥 yes!
Punt your Doctor.
He did!? Your dr? Why is he still your dr?
:-) https://youtu.be/1TtGQnyPZ6g?feature=shared
I get it. I'm still trying out dentists to find a replacement. But still, your health.
I changed after my friend told me about her visit.
You should have taken a photo!!!
He is a TFI (Total F789ing Idiot)
The vast majority of doctors are employed serfs, people pleasing subservient drudges who have lost the capacity to think or plan independently, they're held by the short hairs because the state holds their license to practice. Do what the state says, you earn. Disobey the state, you will be de-licensed and starving. It happened even to the state MD state senator from Minnesota (read the statist Minnesota press rag on this--- https://minnesotareformer.com/2022/07/14/scott-jensen-should-lose-his-minnesota-medical-license/) who questioned the psychosis early on. I'm not apologizing for them, just clarifying the why's. Read about the enemy's assessment of Simone Gold MD...https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/09/14/1035915598/doctors-covid-misinformation-medical-license.
Should medical licensing even be a thing?
https://bretigne.substack.com/p/should-medical-licensing-be-abolished
There’s a lot of licensing that shouldn’t be a thing. The licensed electrician that I had to hire for a house addition was terrible. I couldn’t use my contractor, who was an excellent electrician, because he wasn’t licensed in my city. It’s all about money.
Then, you need a state inspector to come out after electrical work is done. They are as worthless as the license.
I would agree--except, there needs to be some way of knowing whether the person you hired to do the job is competent. Just because someone says that they know how to do electrical work, plumbing, or any other similar repair work doesn't necessarily mean that they actually do know how to do that kind of work. At least with a licensed professional you do have some kind of recourse should they mess up. The unlicensed guy down the street who is buddies with your neighbor, good luck. I've seen too many friends get burned by going that route. They thought they'd save a few bucks and hassle and ended up hiring a more expensive professional to clean up the mess that their cheaper, unlicensed "friend" made.
Your answer is in your comment. Word of mouth. References. Like people relied on for eternity before the 20th century credentialism took hold. Caveat empor. Always do your own research. Licensing is about money, not quality or competence.
Just because one has a license doesn't mean they are competent. Your have fraudulent state inspectors. I had an outside water faucet leak and called a licensed plumber. He told me I'd have to tear out one of my bathroom walls to fix it. I told him he was nuts. His assistant called me aside and told me he was quitting this company because they are crooked. I had a friend look at the faucet and he said all it needed was a gasket and he replaced it for me. I have had no further leaks.
but unfortunately it's now as entrenched as a tick in your dog's paw.
Prohibition breeds Black Markets.
At some point, it's just not feasible to play by the rules.
Licensing - when government steals your right to do something, then sells it back to you.
https://safechat.com/post/3178401551985849313
oh, they're just practicing The Senescience
Not trusting your doctor and being skeptical of hospitals is a win that came out of the whole thing for many people. In other words, eyes were opened to the truth: doctors and hospitals are for emergency use only. It's never been a good idea to trust them with your health. That's what food is for. Despite many being caring and well intentioned people, doctors are ensconced in a system that doesn't have our best interests at heart. And we saw clearly how, as individuals, they're more interested in preserving their lifestyle than in helping patients make good decisions.
My eyes opened up about the medical community back in 2005 when I read an article entitled "Change the number, create a disease". The article was about the change in values for "normal" blood pressure, cholesterol levels and osteoporosis lowering them all which informed doctors that they needed to begin prescribing drugs for millions more people while creating a brand new category called osteopenia, or pre-osteoporosis so people would get more tests sooner rather than later. What I realized is this was all about money for the drug companies and those doing the tests for osteoporosis and a method of creating fear. Since then I have avoided doctors and any and all things the CDC has recommended.
It's great you had that awakening!
For me it was 2013. I developed several chronic conditions. When nothing showed up in my blood work and specialists were of no help, I was offered antidepressants and made to feel like it was all in my head though I wasn't depressed. I never went back.
That started me on a journey towards genuinely good health through diet that has changed my life in every way.
Now I'm grateful for the advanced warning that the system has no understanding of what creates health.
Yeah. For sure.
One of the few "silver linings" out of this global species level fail.
Rebuke? Not quite. This was from this spring:
Anthony Fauci was awarded the Frank A. Calderone Prize, the most prestigious honor in public health, at an April 27 ceremony in Alumni Auditorium on the Columbia University Irving Medical Center campus.
https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/news/anthony-fauci-receives-public-healths-highest-honor
This is what they do. They don't just wreck everything and then disclaim responsibility. They rub our noses in it by giving each other rewards.
Just watch. In a few months, Claudine Gay will be feted for her bravery in facing down the scurrilous attacks she has faced in the wake of her Hamas fecklessness and plagiarism scandal.
Of course they have to honor and reward one of their own. That is how they stay in business.
Exactly right! What you so accurately describe is nothing less than their utter contempt and hatred for humanity as a whole, including the ones showering rewards on them; they are evil players in a game they control on many levels and find never-ending satisfaction in OPENLY carrying out their nefarious deeds to feed insatiable egos and psychopathy.
I agree with you!
Most doctors are beholden to the CDC and the FDA as they are the only "valid" purveyor's of "health care" that is acceptable and if any doctor dared to go outside of their rules, they would face a malpractice suit or be fired and that is why most of them were afraid to tell the truth. Their careers are more important than their patients.
Where's the waterboarding folks when you need them?
They did it right out in the open, spitting in our faces. That is how stupid they think we are. Unfortunately, 2/3rds went right along.
gosh, it seemed closer to 95%
That's closer to what my math, (and observations), indicated!
Shit. 95% might be to low.
I saw nearly 100%.
It's hard to stand one's own. EGM expressed this yesterday (and on other occasions; it seems relevant to understanding the abrogations of our liberties [I think I used that word correctly; let me know pls -Pi]) with the Abiline Paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox.
People will agree even when they're pretty confident that it's the wrong thing to do.
And that’s the problem not enough people rebelled.
"they had to be vaxxed to waterboard" Sarcasm...
All public officials should have to submit to waterboarding by their constituents if they wish to be reelected. 😁😁😁
they, like politicians, should have to fight, physically, to get and hold their position. The top jobs should be fight to the death! It would make for really good entertainment and people would be more thoughtful about who they ask to run.
Agree! i’m against capital punishment--but for any semblance of justice and accountability, this piece of shit along with his sidekick Runt Fauci must be face capital punishment! Francis is diabolical--“starting with his leading the underlying foundational scam the genesis of the “human genome project!”
There are cases where the death penalty is warranted. Mass murder is one. Pedophilia is another.
Hello random internet friend;) I agree but...why no capital punishment for a single murder? What’s the rationale?
Yes, because under Crimes Against Humanity/Murder laws, the facts and evidence are abundant these "leaders" KNEW (or should have known if they choose to argue stupidity) these were lies KNOWN TO BE FALSE AS THEY WERE TOLD. Documentation sufficient for any reasonable person to withdraw consent and demand arrests: https://carlbherman.blogspot.com/2021/09/essay-to-100-teacher-colleagues-for-red.html
And mistakes were NOT made. They knew what they were doing. And enough useless idiots went along.
Persons who were forced to watch their friends and family die in isolation should have their names entered in a lottery.
Winners will have the opportunity to, as those responsible for this catastrophe (Cuomos, Fauxi, hundreds more) struggle and dance at the end of the rope, have at the bodies with golf clubs, machetes, baseball bats, or whatever implements will yield the greatest entertainment value.
“Dans ce pays-ci il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres."
("In this country England it is thought well to kill an admiral from time to time to encourage the others.")
- from Candide by Voltaire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candide
Public, prolonged torture to precede hanging.
The gallows ought to tour the US with a different staffer hanged in each locality until they are no more.
Finish in the PNW so that it can be re-purposed for the antifa and BLM terrorists who will undoubtedly riot - give the police carte blanche to subdue the individual without killing him/her, then a public hanging for each one ala the Sioux indians in Mankato, Minnesota in 1862.
"Public, prolonged torture to precede hanging."
Endorsed
On experts and the Scam:
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-quick-study-d77
Execution is a little harsh but hard time is reasonable punishment.
Then with respect I submit that you have yet to reflect with sufficient depth and humility on how completely fractured our society has been by these events.
Yeah I agree. This can not be forgiven in that way.
But have no doubt they will not even get a slap on the hand.
If that's the case; I don't plan to forgive these monsters unless they understand they escaped crimes punishable by execution. And should expect no forgiveness...only scorn.
There's less chance of that happening then them receiving justice.
So I accept that I will never forgive them. I'm fine with that because those bastards aren't worthy of letting unforgiveness affect us.
They don't deserve it. That's just.
"Vengeance is mine," says the Lord. I trust He will apply the proper dose at the appointed time.
Amen
My wish fulfillment thinking is making them the prime adherents.
You monster!...lol
I often wonder if the jabs they are taking is different from the ones the general public gets
Bring out the guillotines
Absofuckinlutely.
https://patrick.net/post/1377537/2022-11-03-everyone-who-imposed-toxxine-mandates
The passive voice: language allowing you to disclaim all responsibility. If you disclaim all responsibility, what in the hell are we paying you for?
In my experience that soft passive voice is a favorite one of sociopaths.
The main point “what the hell are we paying you for is 💥
The biggest lies are always told in passive voice.
“nothing would be more fatal than for the Government of States to get in the hands of experts. Expert knowledge is limited knowledge, and the unlimited ignorance of the plain man who knows where it hurts is a safer guide than any rigorous direction of a specialized character.”
-Winston Churchill.
"We are paid to be experts, we're regarded as wise, and we are in charge of making decisions but we failed to consider all the possible consequences of our decision. Trust us though, we're experts at what we do."
The bold lie is that mistakes were made, but the more subtle, underlying lie is that they were trying to "save" lives.
We must destroy thousands of lives to save one life.
Very early in covid, the infamous Vietnam-era quote, “It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,” lodged itself in my mind.
exactly.....but kapock..."we were all in it together"
That's what Jim Jones said ... as the kool-aid was poured
Ha! Good one RG
The VN quote has gone through my mind a lot lately. “In order to save Democracy we must destroy Democracy”.
Exactly! And that is where the genuine EVIL lies! These purveyors of DEATH were never trying to save lives!
How can they be mistakes when they held a planning committee on a new virus 3 months before the same virus that they were talking about was released? There were no mistakes made because most countries were following the same plan.
You've seen Margaret Anna Alice's now famous essay?
> Mistakes Were NOT Made!
-- https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/archive?sort=search&search=mistakes%20were%20not%20made
Yes I’ve read her brilliant essay on mistakes. It should be obvious to everyone that this show was long planned out to happen by looking at all the previous administration’s legislation to get us to this point as Katherine Watts has detailed. Many thanks to her work.
100%
Yes. Exactly this.
Get rich and get out is not just for banana republic potentates. The incentives must be destroyed. I don’t know how. Because this was money AND power.
too many average citizens also benefited from the hustle as well. e.g. mortgage brokers, etc.
We were also betrayed by our fellow citizens. And I don't say that lightly, but it's true Sarah.
Indian casinos open, churches & schools closed. Guess which donates the most to the Governor’s campaign?
Yeah. You know it's bad when even a few libertarian organizations I belonged to justified the insane measures.....you know for the common good
Tons of fraud taking that “Covid money” that they were handing out like candy. Imagine a country of 330 million and I saw 1 business owner-that gym in NJ stand up to these people. I’m sure there were some others but not nearly enough. They were happy to close there shops and apply for that Covid green.
Yes, it was an existential failure on a massive scale; but it was a crisis demanding individual response and sacrifice and we saw rare occasions of this, even to this day; rather than coming up with such rationalizations as "mass formation" or "mass hypnosis", there was real evidence of collective stupidity, a deliberate blindness and absence of independent and critical thought; populations world-wide were suffering from a loss of identity and sovereignty which made them extremely vulnerable to all forms of propaganda; again, where there were rare exceptions it was because of leaders who were faithful to historical values and belief in nationhood; other "leaders" were soulless brain-dead followers of a globalist agenda who saw themselves as part of a special elite; unfortunately they could count on the collectively stupid electorate to keep voting for them; this will again be the strategy to dupe the voters in coming elections with the ultimate goal of eliminating elections altogether because we will then be ruled by a one-world government.
Spot on!
Any updates on the NJ gym owner? He would be a worthy recipient of funding by those who harmed him (not the taxpayers).
Only thing I could find was he lost his appeal and owes the state 124k. Story from march 2023.
I'm a business owner and I stood up at great expense.
But, boy are you right virtually no biz owners did.
💯 percent correct.
"Mistakes" were made. But they weren't the mistakes you thought, or even the ones you didn't.
Oh Edwin; mistakes were made just for us!
Yes, "just for us."
First they try to soft sell the "Mistakes were made" premise.
Once they're simply _mistakes_, then "Hey *shrug* Why don't we just let bygones be bygones. Start fresh, clean slate. And, of course, trust us next time."
Hell will freeze over, at least for some of us.
Even if we took him at his word, and believed that they somehow didn’t consider the knock-on effects of lockdowns...We would also have to believe that neither he, as the head of the NIH, or anyone who worked for him had ever previously considered what their response would be to a pandemic. Insultingly unbelievable.
remember when Fauci was asked this at a congressional hearing and he claimed that he was not "qualified" to answer?!!!!...after he refused to answer it multiple times and had the audacity to act as if his earpiece wasn't working.
The equivalent of doing that ridiculous “Sorry, what?! The phone connection is cutting out, I can’t hear you!...” routine from old movies.
Arrogant jerk
I am so curious to see what tactics Fauci will use at his upcoming interviews after the first of the year - will it be more refusals to answer and feigning technical difficulties? Or a new ploy?
Have no doubt; they have a plan for an "exit" strategy.
It was part of the initial plan when they wreaked havoc on the global population.
Hear, hear!! Trials and admission of malfeasance. Francis Collins, Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx should all serve time.
No to serving time, yes for executions. These people committed inhuman crimes against every person in the USA. They forced loved ones to die alone forcibly seperated from family members. They arrested, fined and forcibly shut business owners for trying to keep their businesses open and employees employed. They shut down religious services under the guise of "prevention". And they forced experimental vaccines on children who were not even at risk from covid. I want all of them put against a wall and shot dead for their crimes against humanity.
I feel strongly as you do. But I cannot quite get to executions.
They killed the children/teens who Od'ed from despondent depressions, masked crying toddlers on airplanes (because we must still fly in a "deadly" pandemic or the airlines/shareholders will collapse--and they did and we bailed them out) and grandparents with dementia died alone in hospital beds. Calm and reason will not prevail with these sociopaths, it's a war now, and we can't vote or reason our way out. Firing squads it is.
An 11-year-old boy in our school district killed himself because of the tyrannical "don't visit with anyone outside your household" orders in Michigan that kept arbitrarily being extended until it seemed life would go on like that forever.
Interestingly, right after his death, the governor changed the rules to "allow" people to visit each other, as long as they followed a bunch of arbitrary and useless rituals.
😠
You are certainly correct that they are responsible for more mass suffering than any other Americans I can think of in the past 50 years. No question...
You won me over. Off with their heads
How about the governors who forced nursing homes to take covid patients who then infected and killed the old folks living there? I consider that mass murder. And Fauci and all the others who created this virus and insured its virulence in the Wuhan lab? That is also mass murder. Why should we pay to feed and house these mass murderers or allow the possibility that they may do it again? For the good of humanity they should be exterminated.
One of the public health officials who killed so many seniors in homes with that forced admittance policy has risen high on this--Admiral Rachel Levine.
All you cite is true--but you seem to want to leave out the part about justice. Let them be convicted in a court of law. Let them stand before a jury of their peers, have their misdeeds exposed, find them culpable and let that jury do its work. What you're suggesting, while certainly a point of view I've held in my passionate moments, isn't how our country will heal and learn.
If there is real justice in this country then why haven't a single one of them been arrested and prosecuted? Why haven't all those involved in the Russian Dossier fraud been arrested and prosecuted for sedition? Our phony justice system is totally corrupt and rotten to the core.
Yep, that's true--and exposes the other side of this problem. But of all the things we can do to repair it, I don't believe that simply grabbing those who we think are responsible and stringing them up is going to lead to a better future. I own completely that I don't have all the answers to that. But I know for certain that at the heart of all of this is to "follow the money." The corruption is there because our govt., which is sworn not to do such things, engages in accepting bribes and lobbying money on a regular basis. Both sides of the aisle--all elected officials.
I think most of those asking for justice by execution are looking for a trial by jury first, so that the entire world can understand what happened.
I agree. They should forfeit all of their assets and be allowed the minimum SS for the rest of their lives. All assets of the evildoers should go to a fund to assist people hurt by their policies.
I have often thought the best punishment for Hillary would be to be forced to live in a NYC crack building for the rest of her life. Living on welfare. Should anyone help her in any way they too have to do a stint there.
Hello300 - I was about to post this exact, same thing! Any profits they made from their dealings needs to be turned back to those who have been harmed.
For particular folks named above, executions seem appropriate. For the lessers, there may be some question as to guilt so a more lenient punishment might suit. And the "justice" system being imperfect, there will be some who appear guilty but will be exonerated by evidence disclosed or discovered later.
Then you don’t feel as strongly.
While I appreciate that you feel as you do, I would ask in return that you don't decide how I feel, either. We don't all think and feel the same. I believe you have a right to yours and I'll protect and admire that. I ask the same in return.
My comment may have come off a little abrupt. I meant no disrespect. To me, the meme at the end, "they're doing it again because you didn't hang them last time" is the foundational truth in all this. Any other response simply emboldens these psychopaths to become even more psychotic. Unlike you or me (and, I assume I'm not mischaracterizing you), they will never feel remorse for their actions, they're incapable of it.
Thank you for that. I agree with you--the meme at the end has some validity. But I want to deal in realities at some level. If we want to uphold American values and keep them moving forward, we have to charge and try these people and should they be found guilty (which I think is all but certain), they should be punished accordingly. If for some reason they are found not guilty, then it will be up to the public to ostracize and shun them. Already, the court of public opinion puts almost no sway in "the science" anymore. Public health is at an all time low for trust--as it should be in my view, and I think recent data--the real thing that we all know was completely fabricated when the illegal lockdowns were happening--show that something like three percent of Americans have taken the latest booster. Where you and I absolutely agree is that those responsible (Collins, Fauci, Birx, Public Health et. al) need to be held accountable.
I agree. They also behaved treasonously in that they greatly harmed the country they claimed to be defending, while knowing what they did was harmful. A hanging offense, IMO.
I want to see Birx pilloried in various sites around the nation in the worst way. She openly admits and chortles over lying to Trump. She deserves more than a few rotten tomatoes to the face.
And her reward: Deborah L. Birx, M.D., was appointed Chief Executive Officer of Armata on July 10, 2023. Prior to joining Armata, Dr. Birx served as a member of Innoviva's Board of Directors from March 2021 until July 2023.
Serving time is too mild a consequence.
While I understand the sentiment, I think it's important to rise above at some level and not sink down to their level. Collins, Fauci, et. al. did what they did with no regard for the Constitution, the liberty of free people, or even the truth about their virus and their "vaccine." Rather than "giving them a taste of --quite literally--their own medicine. I'd rather they were perp walked each day to court and face a trial.
I tend to agree & special provisions made that ALL of their finances are frozen & anyone who was within their circle, their finances are frozen & a sliding scale of "needs to be seen" justice is served, paid for, in the first instance, by them. These creatures who have no real God, will, imo, take the gas themselves. 👍🇦🇺
I’m not sure it is - how bad to live in the squalor of a prison with no hope of getting out - that you will sue in a square cement block eating terrible food. Where someone ELSE determines what you do and when you do it.
And at the end - you still wind up in a toasty toasty place.
I think a lifetime in prison is a fit torture.
If, and only if, it is they and their family $ paying for it. No taxpayer monies should be spent to keep them housed and fed in my opinion.
I'm not keen on seeing anyone put to death. But less keen on spending money we don't have on people that deserve death.
They all earned sizable fortunes on their meager government salaries
They can easily foot the bill for their own imprisonment
That's the kind of prison time J6ers face, not what would be waiting for these guys.
This is the guy who not only participated in covering up the lab leak but who also wrote in an email to Fauci that the Great Barrington Declaration written by three "fringe" epidemiologists needed a "quick and devastating published takedown." Surely, mistakes were made.
Interesting they call it public health, yet in the interest of “saving one person” they demolished the health of the public.
And also, they weren't interested in saving anyone. They were interested in giving the appearance of saving people.
This part of Collin's apologia is so much bulls..t. See Ivermectin. If he was interested in saving one person, that would have been approved, millions of times over.
Yeah, how do they get these interviews where people literally don’t question what they say?
That's the only ones they'll agree to participate in. Questions approved ahead of time, right to censor out anything that might be incriminating before airing.
"If you're a public health person, and you're trying to make a decision..."
The role of "public health" people is not to make "decisions", but rather, "recommendations".
You don't get to decide what we are to do. The decisions are for us to make for ourselves.
And as a public health expert, your decisions should be guided by all factors involved. That’s called an informed decision.
Amen
Mistakes were made because these so called experts refused to listen to those who posed alternative approaches. They suppressed them violating science debate and consensus decision making. These were not mistakes, they were deliberate decisions.
Profitable mistakes
Well, a health Nazi "made a mistake," admitted it and all is fine.
"....so you attach infinite value to stopping the disease and saving a life..."
Insane. If one person dies that justifies billions of wealth, lives of other people being ruined.
We could stop all fatal car accidents if the speed limit was 3mph, roll cages and helmets and firesuits were involved. However,.nobody wants to do that because the cost > benefit.
small step to "we had to burn the village to save it."
Well, the plan is to ban private vehicles to save the climate.
Only state functions and select functionaires, be they state or corporate, will be allowed private means of transportation. Probably, you'll be allowed a bicycle if you qualify for a license.
That's the goal.
That's always been the goal ever since the struggle for popular democracy started in the late 18th century: to return to the state of serfdom as great a percentage of the populace as possible.
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I'm a public health guy, and this is not public health. This is delusional incompetence. The REAL public health guys were the signatories of the Gt Barrington Declaration, including me and many others.
Thanks Rob. I wish there would've been more folks like you.
Its just common sense: you don't bathe in sulphuric acid to destroy a few head lice.
We know this, if they’re making conciliatory comments it’s because they’re worried. Without the pressure from free commentators and researchers they wouldn’t be doing this at all.
I wish Collins had.