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after all this time i finally got covid two weeks ago. both of my kids too, and my wife. she got the shots and none of the rest of us did. kids just mild symptoms for 2 days. wife and i both with mild fever, sore throat, cough. To be honest I feel discouraged after this. Its like...this was it. all this hell for two years for this? now back at work and still wearing mandated masks. why? its just insane.

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Chatting with a 40 year old mom of 2 last night, she had both shots and the booster. Right after the booster (Nov 21) she got hives and has had them ever since, her immunologist thinks the booster tweaked her immune system into an autoimmune response.

As more data comes out on the shots (as el gato malo has so forcefully written) there is going to be a reckoning with Big Government and Big Pharma...

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My sister also reacted with an all over body rash. She thinks it was the coconut milk she used in a recipe. Sigh!

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Big Government and Big Pharma will just blame it on COVID itself, and the media will run interference. None of the perps will pay.

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That’s interesting. My SIL also has a mysterious rash/hives. I’m not sure how long it came on after the vaccine, but she can’t get off of the medication she’s on or the hives come back and she starts having what feels like an allergic reaction, including throat itchiness/tightness. I keep wondering to myself if it was the vax.

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Ha! Think again! We are not a moral or decent nation. No one seems to care. Everyone is racing to get back to “normal”.

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That is SO true. How many times have you heard the variation of Hillary's line when confronted with the deaths of 4 men: "What difference does it make!" and they were all like "Yeah, probably nothing. Moving on." The opposition moaned about it as an obligation to those who were mad and now... nothing. I think they are counting on the feeble memories of the abused populace. People just want to get on with it. ESPECIALLY the jabbed. No joke.

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Ambassador Chris Stevens (who was killed at Benghazi) is buried in my town, and every time I pass by the cemetery I think about Hillary with disdain and disgust.

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Anyone could listen to the tapes of Hillary as our Embassy was being violently attacked, and her only thought was to the polls. It was a cold and callous a display, showing a complete disregard for the lives being lost.

Politicians are not to be trusted. We, The People, must watch everyone we elect like hawks, in order to determine their priorities and their character.

Only DeSantis and Ron Johnson have shown themselves to be individuals of real courage and integrity during the entire Covid Event, which was used to destroy our nation's health, monetary system, freedom, and the citizens private property.

This is democide, and destruction of your right to earn a living outside of the control of the perpetrators of the crime,---government and corporations acting in unison. And that is Fascism.

We must fight back by creating our own systems outside of both if we wish to regain our Freedom as well as our health!

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That's the reason we have gone through this hell. Too many people have not been paying attention as our government was 100% co-opted by big business. Pharma rules the world right now, and their business model includes full capture of the agencies tasked with regulating them and a planet of permanent consumers needing ever larger quantities of their products.

(And, help the government balance their books, getting rid of as many 65+ year olds as possible, perhaps?)

Perhaps even installing a kill switch in the young at that age limit....)

Put nothing past them people. We have allowed horrible wickedness to run rampant.

Our autism rates went from 1 in 10,000, to 1 in 350, (when many fought for congressional hearings, in 2000, without success) to the current 1 in 35. Our nation cannot survive with the "great poisoning" left unchecked. Would decent people allow this? No. But our CDC and government mandates the cause-- our childhood vacvine schedule! Wake up. We are ruled by a criminal class and they are frightened now, as the evidence piles higher and higher.

Demand trials for all involved. Biden looks to be fully compromisedby China, as does much of the Democratic party.

We must demand a return to the rule of law, protecting our inalienable rights, while we force accountability on the guilty.

Help your honest legislators. They exist. Ditto the court system. Support actual journalism and abandon the corporations stamping out debate and honesty on all things Covid.

Move away from Western Medicine as much as possible. Take your health into your own hands. And most important of all----protect your children!

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I had Omicron in early December and decided we were the stupidest people to ever occupy the planet if we shut down the world for a mild cold!

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Deb, it was never about the cold. It was all about control -- a thought experiment gone live. They wanted to know what we would accept, and what we wouldn't. All in preparation for whatever they have planned next... great reset, new world order, whatever.

And sad to say, 'we' in the collective sense failed miserably.

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Unfortunately, while I love the hope offered by gatos post, I’ve been on MSM. They are using new and more evil tactics to imply (1) all right wingers are trump supporters and (2) we are all conspiring to steal the next election. This last one has been blatant the last two days. WaPo is also apparently targeting a small town public library here in central Texas for limiting access to porn and woke / gay propaganda . One of my good friends knows the librarian who is simply trying to help kids. May I ask what WaPo is doing? They are obviously trying to discredit people in areas that vote right.

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But Gato is correct. Check the Gallup poll on news media credibility. The only people who believe the MSM are the far-left Democrats anyway. They are preaching to the choir. Independents no longer trust the MSM, and of course Rs don't believe a word of it.

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There are no far left Democrats. They largely left the party in 2016, including me and my family, and get a lot of flak for not believing corporate news media. in fact, the Democrats are ent even left, they're just the blue wing of the corporate uniparty.

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I wish you were correct. My normally right wing husband is swallowing the MSM message hook, line, and sinker. He rejects all my red-pill attempts to open his eyes. And he's already had 3 jabs - likely to take another soon.

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My condolences.

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Sounds to me like a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black -- or, accuse your enemy of doing what you are doing.

They have nothing else left, they are bloviating on and on, hoping to achieve some sort of relevance.

They had best be careful though, especially with your point (2). If we are conspiring to steal the next election, the obvious response is to put into place measures to stop the steal. Is that really what they want?

Their failure to think the game through is a classic sign of desperation. They are acting before they think. And this, indeed, is good news. "Knight to king's bishop 6; checkmate..."

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Yes we did. It’s disappointing to see how compliant we’ve become. How we blindly accept what we’re told with no discernment.

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Thanks. (BTW you can clip off everything after the '?' in a link, to make it more compact.)

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That seems like a lot of work ; )

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Well, think of it as a gift of brevity to your fellow travelers... 😉

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Peeps in ny still be like, a lot of people died…, so so many people, we probably should have done more. And, yet completely indifferent to the NIH rules and lack of early treatment. Seeming to believe what happened two years ago is still happening today. Even after themselves shots and all had it.

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Sounds like they still don't understand the problem. Which was: Cuomo sent sick patients back to nursing homes, where they infected and killed thousands. Leave that blunder aside (one which he has never acknowledged, AFAIK) and NY was like most other states.

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Apr 28, 2022·edited Apr 29, 2022

No and being told go home come back if you can’t breathe.

Ps. Yes and some still thought he was doing a great job. I got fact checked by bil when I shared what he was doing.

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That unfortunately happened everywhere.

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I used to think New Yorkers were sharp and tough. Now I see most of them are lemmings.

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I think they used to be sharp and tough, but with a kind inner self that took a while to get to know. At least that was what the New Yorkers I knew at university ('70s) were like. Lots of brag and bluster, but pretty decent folks behind it all, many with hearts of gold.

What a difference 50 years makes -- not just in NY I might add. Look at CA -- what a mess. MI, where I grew up, screwed up but at least (based on the recent GOP takeover by the grass roots), maybe a chance. There's hope, but there's also a lot of evil out there. And a lot of stupid.

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I expected a bit more …for lack of better word… rebellion from some. Cannot dismiss friends loosing parents and friends. We too lost a couple in nursing homes. People that for years lived with the daily visits from family, friend, pets. Only to stop eating or have ulcers go unaddressed oh but it was covid.

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In my household we had me (unvaxxed 50 yrs old adult, healthy weight, no comorbidities), my husband (55 yrs old, month 23 of terminal adenocarcinoma of the stomach, 30lbs overweight, life-long severe asthma and allergies, and double-vaxed with Pfizer), and our friend (54 yr old male, healthy weight, high blood pressure, double-vaxed with Moderna). We all got Omicron 3 days apart from one another. I took Ivermectin, had mild symptoms for 48 hours and was completely healthy within the week, my husband vaxed with Pfizer took no therapeutics and was sick for ten days, with a lingering cough for another two weeks. The lingering cough is fairly normal for him with any respiratory illness due to his asthma. Our friend who had Moderna had symptoms severe enough to send him to the doctor, where they gave him cough syrup, and he stayed in bed for a week, finally feeling healthy after two weeks. It was an interesting microstudy on protocols.

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Same here, just got a positive test two days ago -- literally one night of shivers and it appears to be over already (although I guess Covid can go in waves so not counting my chickens quite yet).

Since the vaccinated always go on about “thank god I got the vaccine so my symptoms are mild”, unvaccinated me is going to go ahead and credit my mild symptoms to months of Vitamin D, Vitamin C, zinc + quercetin and prophylactic Ivermectin (aka “horse paste”).

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I'm the only one in my family who has been on those (minus Q and IVM which I couldn't find) and had the mildest symptoms out if all if our mild infections, and we all agreed we'd had worse flus. But I think my regimen is why I had it easiest.

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Yup. I take C, D, K2, and Zinc daily.

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Exact same situation here for everybody in the house.

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We're ALL going to get it. Nothing to be discouraged about. It just shows they lied to us for 2 years and we will never let them do this again.

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Mmmmmm... I think they could do it again and get away with it.

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In some ways you've allowed them to win since they've convinced you that you "got covid".

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"You got covid. " You mean you got a 'cold'. *FLUSH*

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Have you thought about finding another job. Perhaps working for people that aren’t so stupid?

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Every day... i take days off and just sit and think about quitting. (what i am doing today actually.) I have spent 10 years as a primary care doc for an academic center. Hard to leave all my patients. Hard to say what is the better choice. I have provided, i think, a lot of value to them during the pandemic trying to navigate all this and I do think there is value in working through the system. But I am 51/49 on it it would seem. Maybe i am just banging my head against a wall. I was sitting in my office the other day and i overheard a doc talking to a patient. the patient said "I was so afraid when the county dropped the mask mandate that you would stop wearing masks here. thanks for continuing to keep patients safe." The doc responded "Oh dont worry, we are never going to stop wearing masks. This is the new normal, how things will be." I almost threw up.

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A good example how 95% of us are now slaves to the 5% of the permanently delusional, fear ridden idiots. I was reading a substack piece by a psychiatrist Mark McDonald that you might find interesting and certainly kinship: https://markmcdonaldmd.substack.com/p/pity-the-children

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Dr. McDonald's book is really interesting...recommended to anyone who wants to learn and understand more about the psychology of the fearful maskers.

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People are just like that lady here.

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Here's something I've been noticing (remembering?) recently. People usually like to be liked and don't like to rock the boat. To avoid conflict (and be polite?) they will 'agree'. It would be interesting to know what your colleague would reply to a patient who said "Why are you still wearing a mask, they do nothing to keep you or your patients safe?"

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I asked my doctor that very thing. First he said "we have to" then he said "our patients prefer them". We have a conversation every time I go in. They don't educate themselves much less the patients about what works and what does not. I don't think they know (mostly). And it is the path of least resistance. I used to say "what? WHAT?" or I'd ask him if he is planning on robbing a bank, or if he forgot to brush his teeth... depending on my mood. Now I just demand he takes the mask off because I cannot respect anything that comes out of his muffled mouth. He thinks I am joking.

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So, it sounds like he doesn't respect your preference and take it off? I agree that most don't educate themselves and just go with the flow but that's part of my point about avoiding conflict. I admire your tactics! At least you seem to be able to get a doctor's appointment. Huge waiting lists here and mainly via zoom or phone so I've given up trying. Maybe that's better for my health though.

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I WISH they would do telehealth! No problem getting into the doc here and mine is a crazy busy office. He takes his mask off after I give him grief. Even in the beginning, but every single one of the office staff still wears one and he comes in the room with it on. They also don't know jack about vitamins. I told him the NAC I was taking helped with my asthma and he should consider recommending other asthma patients try it. I told him it was on the list of supplements for preventing COVID (or helping when you have it). He said he had heard of that and would. I doubt that. Both the knowing and telling. But I still like him. As a person. Solid C as a physician. Incurious. But if I suggest something, he doesn't say no.

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They would instantly reply that the masks are so important and have done so much good. I have directly told these other docs how foolish this is and I was reprimanded for "unprofessional conduct."

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I understand your pondering leaving. It is child abuse.

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I appreciate how difficult this must be for you. It's much easier for me as a patient as doctors are still obligated here to treat unvaxxed patients and I have a mask exemption. I only go when I have to. However, in your case, it seems reasonable that you could direct to their attention to the majority of evidence available that does not support mask wearing. Are you able to use your skills in another setting?

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Ok. The closing meme is GOLD!!! 🏆

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SUN MEW ~ my hero! 😻

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I’ll slap you to sleep and slap you for sleeping. 🤣

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One of the best retorts to any accusation is "OK!"

"That's racist!" "OK!" And continue on your merry way. The minute you let them think what they say matters to you, you've surrendered. I understand of course this is easier for retired people who don't give a damn, but the alternative retort is "demonstrate how."

I seriously despise people who surrender without a fight. My motto has always been "I'll go down fighting."

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I've gotten a lot of mileage out of just nodding, grinning, and exclaiming "Yeah!" when someone accuses me of an ism. They expect a backpedaling apology, a desperate insistince that no, it wasn't an ist thing to say. Cheerful agreement takes them off guard and shuts them up.

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That is a good way too. Not sure I can do that yet. I will eventually get there. I don't apologize, but I feel the need to stick it to them. Utterly useless. Still. Ugh.

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"Your opinion would matter to me if I cared what you think." ---> I think this is the hardest blow you can give someone accusing you of being an ___-ist.

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There's also the good old "You mistake me for someone who gives a fu..."!

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I like that. Very disarming! I have never been bothered when called it in writing because every dope pulls that. The first time I was called a racist and a nazi (for voting for Trump) - to my face I was so shocked and appalled! I did not behave as I'd have liked. I now engage them calm(er), but OK is so so much better. It will be my answer to the ubiquitous "Antivaxxer!"

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Or you could even say to your accuser: "That's nice, but what you think of me is none of my business," deliver that along with a genuinely happy smile. (Why wouldn't you be happy to know that your accuser's opinion is only an opinion and not truth!!!!?)

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To paraphrase that scene in Amadeus--too many words. You've started a conversation where none is necessary. People who make contemptible accusations should have rugs pulled out from under them until, eventually, they get their damn necks broken...

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meh, to each their own.

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Tag on the back of a boxing gym tee shirt : Fighting solves everything.

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I've always wanted to be the Vaporizing Gun Fairy.

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"If your opponent is of choleric temper, irritate him." Sun T.

"I pity the fool." Mr. T.

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For two years, I've constantly said to my most gloomy friends "Stupid can't last forever." Turns out it's true. Unforced errors in every direction... follow the path of Napoleon and let the enemy error themselves into the grave.

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My concern is, stupid lasted 70 years in eastern Europe and murdered millions. And, if what's going on in Shanghai is to be believed, the Chinese are flooring the "stupid" accelerator right now.

Stupid needs to be strangled in the crib. These leftists have taken advantage of Americans' good nature and demanded tolerance for all sorts of absurdities and dysfunctional behavior. Our mistake was rolling our eyes at these excesses. Now that its taken root in our soil, it is harder to extirpate. But, eliminate it, we must. The only thing candidate Biden said that I agreed with prior to the election was that America's future was at stake. It sure as heck is.

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It's not stupidity. It's malevolence. It's normal to want power; to use it against others; to demonize those who won't cooperate.

Plenty of professions self-select for sociopathy. Mostly it doesn't get noticed because the evolutionary advantages to sociopathy make, for example, good surgeons. You've got to have a certain coldness to be able to slice people up every day. But then you get bad surgeons who are gleeful, say, about slicing off the breasts of physically healthy girls. The surgeon who mutilated now-"Elliot" Page is enjoying that power.

The Soviet elite enjoyed what they did. The Red Guards thrived on it. The Khmer Rouge too. The clever people at Harvard who invented napalm. It's one thing to attempt to kill one's enemy. The mind that thinks of incinerating them while alive is something else.

People are not so much stupid as they are weak. It's scary to stand up for one's principles; ask my pounding heart since HS.

That war against healthy masculinity in every aspect of life, starting in pre-school? That's purposeful and not stupid. Letting it happen was stupid.

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It takes some of both. The leaders are malevolent; the followers are stupid. For every leader there are dozens, hundreds, thousands, even millions of followers. They see their value by the cause(s) they support -- wokism, for example. They virtue-signal their endorsement. They demonize those that disagree with them. It infuriates them when you ignore them, laugh at them, even agree with their accusations. Which is Gato's point -- feed their disfunction. Let them rage at the machine. Eventually they will tire out and drop by the wayside, like a star that goes nova before it dies.

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It’s quite amazing to me that the Chinese govt is murdering its own citizens and the left MSM, who used to be at forefront of human rights is almost murderously silent.

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Well said, Doc.

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Thanks, Wild Bill. Tip: ALWAYS take the seat with your back against the wall when playing cards.

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Apr 28, 2022·edited Apr 28, 2022

True story: a few years ago ,myself,my husband,and my grown son went to.sit down in a restaurant. The husband slid in where he could see the door. My son and I looked about and then stared at him. " I'm the Dad, I need to be able to see the door..." I glanced at my son and told the hubby " You're not carrying at the moment, and there's 7 levels of Hapkido black belt between your son and I. Who's more protection?.." He got up and vacated his booth bench without a word.

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That was Al Capone's strategy -- always sit where you can see the door 😎

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My most liberal of “screaming about the current thing” friends have been oddly quiet lately. Gives me hope that the implosion is actually picking up speed.

Last summer I sat down a nephew of mine who was having a pity moment about masking at school, etc, and I said, repeat after me. It won’t always be this way.

Been taking my own advice lately. It won’t always be this way. But thank the heavens for internet cats who shine a light on the end of the tunnel. 😁

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They've stopped with the group hugs and started back giving awards to the kid who played the best in our 6 yo's soccer league. Nobody complained.

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What do you make of this? Progress back to meritocracy?

Is this at a public school?

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Apr 28, 2022·edited Apr 28, 2022

Not public school. Regular community.

Don't pretend to understand causes, just try to notice change. If I had to guess, I'd say increasing Asain and South American immigration: they have no time for such nonsense.

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who is John Galt? --- Elon Musk -- my favorite African American space explorer

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"Is it because I is black ? "

- Ali G

( A jewish man in blackface , but it's OK when they do it ).

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Ejaculations of Outrage is the name of my new Slayer cover band!

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may u Reign in Blood!

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I like your handle Clever!

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"Meme your enemies, see them reet-ing before you, and then laminate their pronouns"

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This!!! “never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” 👍🏻

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These hysterical pundits are making the case for free speech better than its proponents ever could. When crying racism is the only argument that these people can think of against free speech, you know that they have nothing left. Racism is just like how they define "disinformation / misinformation": anything that doesn't meet their desired narrative.

My only problem with the original tweet is that it calls Joy Reid a "prominent journalist". I think people have to actually know who you are to be called "prominent", and she's certainly not a journalist.

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She's not prominent because so few actually watch her show. She's mostly known because various people on Fox frequently show clips of her idiocy. As for her being a journalist...nope, not that. Vile racist....yes she is.

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This: "the only thing scary about these people is the depth of their delusion."

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Luv yah, bad cat. This is all true.

What do we do when people call us raciss, anti vaxx, white supremaciss etc? I guess we laugh at them and ask, Still calling kids you dislike a poo, huh?

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i find that patting them on the head and saying "aww, you're precious..." leads to some interesting explosions....

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we have entered the woke saturation region

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I haven't cared what the chattering media class has thought about me since they called me unpatriotic for not supporting the Iraq war.

Two decades later, I haven't seen a single reason I should change my mind about caring.

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“…my friend, we must not regard what the many say of us: but what he, the one man who has understanding of just and unjust, will say, and what the truth will say.”-Socrates

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