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I don't really have anywhere else to point this out so I'll do it here. If you have a live-attenuated virus vaccine with aerosol dispersion and you replace the attenuated virus with a lab-enhanced gain-of-function virus selected for human infectivity, what do you have?

You have a bioweapon.

To make an effective bioweapon, just cooking up virus or bacteria or spores isn't enough. You MUST have a reliable delivery system. That's why anthrax was so useful: the spores are dry, airborne and dispersible. With the right technique, they survive a bomb explosion and disperse.

The idea that they were going to actually implement a program to vaccinate bats strikes me as completely absurd and laughable. They were testing bioweapon delivery mechanisms with some 'dual use' CYA language about bats.

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i mean, if you break the leg off a chair, you have a weapon too.

that does not mean that's why you built it.

if you were looking to make something truly nasty and weaponized, this, like the chair, would not have been the base you would have started from.

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But if making clubs (weapons) were unlawful and you were trying to get your own side to fund you to build unlawful weapons, then you might build a chair. If our opponents want to be at least partially funded by our side, instead of theirs, and to use us as 'idea farms' to do dual-use research on banned bioweapons, how might one go about it? Might this not be part of how one might go about it, to give you part of the solution?

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Exactly. This is a pretty diabolical way to go about making a bio weapon. Have your number one adversary for world superpower control not only provide the financing but help you do some of the work on creating what you can build off to create a weapon. It furthers the process but also provides cover as the US side will believe that you were only working to prevent a pandemic, when a pandemic and the predictable response that wreaks havoc on your adversaries more so than on yourself may just be the kind of weapon you want to deploy.

This effected a Presidential election in the US and effected changes in governments and economies all around the world.

I think it’s reasonable to state that the Chinese Communist Party benefitted more from this pandemic than they suffered from it.

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And they have a solid record of not exactly worrying over how many might die to affirm an ideology and rule.

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U.S. government (and no doubt other entities, both known and those who prefer to remain deep in the shadows) fund "biological research" in dozens of dodgy locations all over the globe. This is not to say that all such research is for evil purposes, but certainly the possibility cannot be dismissed. Just in the past few days such a facility was seized by rebels during the unrest in Kazakhstan. Who knows what, if any, mischief they will start, knowingly or unknowingly, having gained access to what are no doubt very dangerous pathogens. Great world we live in.

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Interesting thought. I see what you did there. (and I think it's pretty smart)

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

If you were going to test your dispersal system with a live viral agent, this might be an ideal candidate. Examples of aerosol distribution tests having been conducted on unwitting populations are easy to find in U.S. history: NYC subway, SF Bay. We lack a criterion to distinguish between an accidental lab leak and a LAV vaccine aerosol dispersal test event.

In short, I don't have to load up my nuclear payload to test my ICBM. North Korea doesn't waste their fissile material on delivery platform tests for instance.

It is quite possible that SARS-COV-2 acquired its furin cleavage site and airborne transmissibility in an unforeseen de-attenuation process during such a test. That would explain the early insistence by Chinese authorities of no human-to-human transmission. Their test LAV didn't have that capacity.

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That '...early insistence by Chinese authorities of no human-to-human transmission' has always interested me. Actually, I should say 'possessed' me. :) I couldn't ever understand how and why those thousands of Chinese were allowed to fly into our western states at the beginning of the pandemic. If I'm not mistaken, that did happen. During the first few weeks of pandemic media reports, I kept thinking, there's a raging virus in China and they're welding people's doors closed, and yet the media report tens of thousands of them are flying here. It. Didn't. Make. Sense. And as far as calling this racism for me to say this, that's crazy. When I was in high school way, way back when, my friend and I got very sick. My mother called the doctor, he said she probably has strep throat and called in a prescription. Her mother took her to the doctor's office and he diagnosed scarlet fever -- the city fathers sent out someone who nailed a big "Quarantined" sign on their house. I'm not saying I'm for authorities to do that to people, but it's just sensible to have guidelines for preventing transmission of bad illnesses.

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The virus was probably already well seeded around the world by the time the Chinese were even aware of a local outbreak of a "novel coronavirus." Estimates of the early release vary, but I'd say it got loose in late November 2019. With a highly contagious pathogen, probably even by then it would have been too late to institute quarantine measures, even if global health authorities were fully aware of (and believed) the virus's true nature.

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Some kind of camp would work.

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It. Does. Make. Sense. ...if your objective is rendering your prefered authoritarian modus operandi the accepted international norm.

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Perhaps. There are competing possibilities. Absent some extraordinary revelation of evidence, the exact truth will probably never be known. In the meantime, I hold, as I have from mid-2020, with the simplest explanation: the accidental release of an engineered SARS-class virus from one of the Wuhan labs, presumably WIV. There is a "paper trail" of such research going back years before the (supposed) accident, creating GOF enhanced SARS class viruses precisely tailored to be infectious to humans. You don't need much more than that...

The simplest explanation that fits all the known constraints is likely to be the correct one.

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Just saying.. that's an interesting thought path.

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Full credit it is this guy's idea and one I find worth exploring. I would very much like to see if there are some criterion that might be created to test the theory since we are unlikely to see clear evidence from China.

https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/

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From: https://harvard2thebighouse.substack.com/p/the-last-interview-the-sirotkins

"So after my dad and I, two U.S. citizens who’ve previously held TS/SCI clearances, spent nearly the past two years doing our absolute best to convey the incredibly dire nature of this pandemic using what was literally the absolute cutting-edge science of the time to the following journalists, filmmakers, and investigators starting in early 2020 as this pandemic was first getting started:

William J. Broad (NYT)

John Mecklin (Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists)

Nicholson Baker (New York Magazine)

Josh Rogin (Washington Post)

Drew Griffin (CNN)

David Malone (UK Director)

David Asher (U.S. Government)

…and then getting completely and entirely ignored by each and every one of them..."

This read to me like a science fiction novel except it's real. I felt somewhat shaken after reading what is in that substack and sent it to Del Bigtree's info email. How much longer can this be covered up?

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If you go way, way back in there and read "No Monkey Ever Reheated a Frozen Burrito" which was first posted March 2020, you will see that he was one of the early explorers of the lab origin theory. Importantly, he argued that serial passage through animals had been done and could explain SARS-COV-2.

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I follow H2 and he is a lot more dire on what he expects to happen going forward. I have no idea if his views have merit but he has said repeatedly that 80% of the people you know are going to die.

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Unless, perhaps, you were sewing in a thread of deniability? And even if you're correct about the preponderant intent [the entire scheme of which seems Dr. Strangelove on its face], if a leg of a chair or even a lab-made virus is a potential weapon, the fact that the item would hold value to interested parties, like say the military, is fairly predictable. In the infamous words of one of our founding mothers, "what does it matter" their intent when they drew so far outside the lines of the law and common sense morality?

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Your "Strangelove" mention is curious. For those unfamiliar, and that almost includes me 😎, this refers to the 1960s movie "Dr. Strangelove," where a rogue officer starts WW III. Ron Unz (unz.com) conjectures a similar rouge bio-warfare op by the US against China as the start of the pandemic. I don't buy his argument, but it's there, along with much other conspiratorial food for thought, at his site.

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Oh incidentally, here is a paper by a PLA COL from 2005:

"Traditional biological weapons aim to produce mass destruction," but new biotechnology means that "we could choose targets from a nucleotide sequence or protein structure." Weapons could utilize "naked DNA... injected it into veins for easy access into muscle cells for gene therapy," and then "release DNA molecules to integrate with the host’s cells through blood circulation and cause disease or injury by controlling genes."

"How to turn modern biotechnology to make actual weapons today is still not known, but with their capability of attacking targets accurately and producing ultramicro, nonlethal, and reversible damage, such weapons might finally change the methods of 'physical annihilation' or 'destruction within the killing range' which have characterized war since the invention of gunpowder."

You can read the rest if you like. Seems like the 20th century concepts of biological weapons were carefully rethought under the Unrestricted Warfare model and no longer need resemble the mass casualty, direct damage methods of the past.

https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Portals/7/military-review/Archives/English/Dir-Select/nano-technology.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unrestricted_Warfare

The following is a discussion of that paper and others from Lawrence Sellin:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/exclusive-reports-uncovered-show-covid-19-planned-bioweapon-chinas-peoples-liberation-army/

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Perhaps why the Chinese are quite interested in western genome data. Maybe trying to target our bits of Neanderthal.

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Not to mention that direct killing isn't always the aim of weapons or strategies, since disabling people who then require care from multiple other people can be effective in its own way.

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Also not intuitive with the value of any offensive weapon, biological or otherwise: It may be more valuable if it merely incapacitates, or even just seriously inconveniences, the enemy. Think of regular warfare. One dead soldier is no longer a problem. The body is not a high priority. An injured comrade, on the other hand, requires multiple people to attempt to: rescue, transport, treat, house, recuperate, him, taking at least temporarily, far more resources out of the fight than one dead man. In this context, if Covid-19 were deliberately planned, it was a master stroke.

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You gotta be shitting me. Are you really arguing that the intent behind creating SARS-CoV-2 was not for use as a weapon?

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It would if you also wanted plausible deniability.

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depends what your aims are

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Yes.

Not to mention, in the Fauci foia email release there is an email to him with subject "the bioweapon" that describes, in general terms, "how we added HIV."

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And if you are developing a bioweapon, you also need to develop a vaccine to protect "your side" from the bioweapon. Pure evil and insanity.

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And if you are collaborating with China, then they know everything you know about gene-splicing

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The bioweapon deliver system is called a syringe and you get people to queue up to let you inject them via a campaign of fear.

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respiratory viruses spread well all by themselves but they needed to tweak it to kill enough people to introduce the real bioweapon the mRNA jab

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Why don't they just lock Daszak and batwoman and the likes up in a cave full of bats? Then they can experiment as they please and we will be safe.

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The PLA have been at war with the US for a long time. Asymmetrical warfare. Their own computer models showed that they would lose decisively in conventional war. But the asymmetrical model they called “Assassin’s Mace”, showed them defeating us. Knowing this and knowing their goal of world dominion, it is hard to look at this and not conclude that this has all been part of that war plan.

We have been taking a dreadful beating. It hasn’t been accidental.

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I allow for the possibility that this leak was an accident, but having read the Veritas documents and the subsequent information coming out, there’s just something about it all that just seems a bit too neat and tidy for me. Maybe I’m being paranoid, which is odd because I have NOT been a supporter of the bioweapon speculation since the beginning of this, but I think it’s equally presumptuous to outright dismiss it. It’s also possible that the scientists motives were as stated and some other party decided to use the opportunity to purposefully release it. Who knows and I doubt we will ever be sure, but when I see narratives starting to completely align with the “oopsie our hubris” story, my spider sense starts tingling.

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There are a few things I think of that might explain what the western counterparts thought they were doing funding Chinese biowarfare programs. One is some roundtable where Fauci and others talk about how vaccine making is not profitable because they take too long to approve. Fauci suggests that they need to boost fear of a disease and use that to short circuit the approval process and that would make vaccines profitable. (Changes to EUA regulations were documented by Breggin)

Clearly, they tried to boost fear to promote vaccination and other public health prerogatives several times during flu seasons with ridiculous death projections. Those are documented by RFK, Jr. and I think the Breggins.

Then there is the Daszak quote where he talks about showing profitability to investors.

Finally, the Chinese CDC chief at Event 201 roleplays that there is a rumor among nurses that the virus (of Event 201) originated with drug company experiments. He wants to game out how to quash that rumor.

So we can see the Western motivation might have also involved greed. There was the intent to market vaccines or drugs like remdesivir for custom made virus.

I definitely believe that they are greedy enough to -knowingly- fund Chinese dual use biowarfare research on the chance that they can spin it into profits.

If you read RFK's book on Fauci, you will understand that he wouldn't hesitate about something like that for even one second.

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I'm only to page 34 of his book, and he's already made a strong case that suppression of early treatments (e.g. HCQ) was deliberately orchestrated by Fauci et al. very early in the pandemic. Some actions are extremely odd -- like nations reducing availability of HCQ (was over the counter in many nations) even as early as January, literally only days or a few weeks after SARS-CoV-2 had even been announced to the world. Reducing access to potential therapeutics, discouraging any studies about their efficacy and sundry other machinations surely are red flags, but of what? Intent is difficult to prove. But it sure looks like what a schemer would do if he wanted to make sure there were no (apparent) existing treatments, all the better to clear EUA approval for what would be a highly profitable monopoly treatment (the vaxxes).

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Recorded comments from Fauci and Daszak pre-pandemic seem to indicate they were fixated on vaccines. So is Bill Gates. Why? My guess is liability. Vaccines offer liability protection. If you check out Peter + Ginger Breggin COVID-19 and the Global Predators, they show how Bill Gates proposed a model of vaccine development with zero risk. It is zero risk because governments pay for the research, Gate's invested drug companies hold the patents, and governments assume liability. (There was a recent Reuters article that mentioned how drug companies refuse to provide vaccinations to illegal immigrants because no one had signed away the illegal immigrants rights and thus they had no liability protection.) Also telling has been Bill Gate's reaction to allowing generic vaccine manufacturing. He freaked out. One other aspect of this is how many people from Event 201 or WEF young global leaders list end up in pandemic related positions in their countries.

On the other hand, the Chinese almost certainly don't care about making Bill Gate's and friends richer. What was their goal? Harvest dual use tech? Weaken their adversaries with low-grade bioweapons? Ensure Trump doesn't get re-elected and continue trade restrictions? Could be all of those.

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While I get your point, I truly believe Fauci et al are just psychopaths with God complexes. Tony obviously has delusions of saving the world with his vaccine fetish, always has. And he has shown zero compunction when it comes to deeply unethical and morally reprehensible research. To him, the downsides are just numbers in a ledger, but the potential upside was his legacy as the miracle worker. It was hubris.

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First, you have to come up with something nasty. Then, you want to develop the antidote strategy so that when you release it on the enemy you don’t kill your own people also. So a good bioweapon would need to have both elements, aside from the issue of the delivery system. The “cover” is that you are “working on a vaccine.” That can pretend to be somehow a benign activity, if you don’t get into the actual specifics. But the full story is that your “vaccine” is not for everybody, it’s for your army only. George Bell has been way out in front with his investigations of this story for years now. He has been censored off of many platforms but has a program now called “neighborhood news studio” that is worth checking out.

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What if the real weapon were the indirect effects of the pandemic? Social discord, huge economic damage, altered elections....?

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that is part of it, I agree completely. This garbage has Obama's Army all over it.

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Lots of false flags flying lately, for sure. We’re all happy today with striking down of the OSHA mandate. The dark state is already 5 steps ahead of us. I suspect that now injected mRNA is the back door to future interventions yet to be seen in humans. We already know that if stress is dialed up in mammals, immune systems are subjected to breakdown resulting in disease propagation. By taking the injections, humans are now open lab rats to multiple foreign interventions, who knows the source.

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Another question is, did they really need to? The highest risk groups are the groups of people in their own country that the CCP might not want to prioritize in their movement towards world domination. The future generations are safe and they could take proactive measures and early treatment protocols to protect the most important assets. If we knew that Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and interferon are successful treatments, you can be certain that the CCP new this as well.

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I'm very limited in this... but all I've read, your view is closest to mine.

Although I'm limited, I'm freaken obsessed with this topic.

I mean, I expect a third of population to be killed.

My family, more than a third: highly educated progressive democrats.... not good

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Except this would be like releasing mustard gas with swirling winds. Nothing would prevent it from killing the enemy as well as yourself.

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I think there's still a lot we don't know about. Yes, the Sars-Cov2 is deadly but mildly so. The shots are given out deliberately and there is no way of knowing that certain people got the real shot or just saline. This story continues to unfold.

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If you knew that mustard gas was going to be released you could take precautions to protect your most valuable assets while the rest of the world was vulnerable.

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100%

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

I think it's too early to say that the release was a mistake. Maybe it was . . . but the timing of how it helped to take down a sitting president who was sailing to reelection -- and was hated by the deep state -- seems to be just too perfect.

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My issue with that theory is the otherwise somewhat beneficial sitting President is the one who created Operation Warpspeed and jabbed the whole Free World with the Bioweapon! He did NOT convene a conference of Doctors successfully treating Covid cases. He did NOT bring economists, psychologists and epidemiologists to the table to explain the Absolute Train Wreck of Lockdowns coupled with the fact that they are utterly useless to stop an airborne virus. And, he did NOT sign an executive order telling hospitals and pharmacists they must allow patients access to ALL drugs which their doctor might deem useful!

Trump was not as destructive as Biden, but Pharma owns him also. Only possible conclusion, sadly. IMO

As to intentionality of the leak---heck ya! You can see it in their nasty little plans going back a decade or two. Absolutely the Globalists planned this. It just seems they are really inept and are now caught with their hands in the cookie jar for all, (with functioning brains,) to see!

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"...and jabbed the whole Free World with the Bioweapon!"

No, that was *not* Trump. That was Biden. Trump was gone within a month of the vaxxes being available. Biden is the one who weaponized it, mandated it, threatened those who didn't want it, etc.

Trump is responsible for fast-tracking the vaxxes, yes, but after that, it was out of his hands and into Brandon's hands.

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Well at the time Trump was preoccupied with the countual sniping at his heels of the Russian believers who were all about a phone call. Fauci whispered in his ear and Trump imagined a way out via vaccine creation. Unfortunate timing and bad advisors.

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^THIS^

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There is footage of Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and a number of young looking girls, Trump is looking at the girls and appears to be rather excited.

Given that Epstein was an agent of Israel I expect there was footage of Trump committing crimes with those girls.

Given who dominates pharma is it any wonder Trump pushed the warp speed vaccine.

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"There is footage of Trump with Jeffrey Epstein and a number of young looking girls, Trump is looking at the girls and appears to be rather excited."

I think if they had anything legitimate on Trump, he would have been removed before 2020 instead of being impeached on two absolutely ludicrous charges.

1) he asked the president of Ukraine (a nation the US overthrew under Obama) to look into corruption before he received aid

2) the "near overthrow of our government" by a guy wearing a wearing a buffalo hat in face paint

And they wouldn't have spent 4 years pretending he flew to Russia to have 2 prostitutes urinate on a bed that Obama supposedly slept on.

And Epstein wouldn't have ever been arrested, much less been murdered in prison OR being secretly released from prison to spend his retirement drinking margaritas with Ken Lay.

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I think your reasoning is good. However, Trump was bragging about Jeffrey's liking for little girls in one quote, many credible women have come out about Trump's behavior, and while, no, we do not have hard evidence of rape, there is a lot of likelihood.

We do have his own voice is on tape in ways that are totally disgusting.

The man is disgusting. And he is still pushing a shot that has murdered many Americans. Perhaps 100s of thousands.

He did not convene doctors who succeeded with Covid patients.

He did NOT protect our rights to survive and keep our businesses open. He did NOT write a Presidential Executive Order requiring the availability of HCQ and Ivermectin to the doctors and patients who wanted to utilize it.

Face it. The man in on the Plan. Or dead stupid.

IMO. take it or leave it.

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I have to make it clear that I don't think Trump is perfect. FAR from it.

But he wasn't entirely worthless.

I don't care about his personal life, his personal transgressions, or anything like that. It's not relevant.

The point I'm making is that he did something REALLY good for the country. He demonstrated how corrupt this federal government is. It's not a "few bad apples" - it's ALL bad apples.

The federal government should be replaced. Everybody in it should be fired, if not prosecuted. It's merely a criminal syndicate. That's what Trump demonstrated, he took off the pretty mask of it all. It's just a group of thugs.

Nothing the government is doing is legitimate, and I don't mean just sars-cov2-19 restrictions. I mean NOTHING they do is legitimate. They seriously should be entirely replaced. It's ONLY criminals in it. Nothing more.

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I agree with you. The problem I have with the man is not his personal life. It's not our business. But, pushing that damn death shot is another story.

Many here have no clue how deadly it really is, or how the childhood schedule is destroying our children's lives by the millions.

Trump made "I'll look into this problem, vax injuries are real, work with RFKRr, yadda, yadda, yadda, noises " until his inauguration and then jumped in bed with Pfizer and Bill Gates.

While I love what the Donald did with economy and foreign relations, the man is a snake, and in on the "Plan." IMO He did not bring together all the doctors successfully treating Covid. He did not bring economists and psychologists to the podium to explain the catastrophic damage of lockdowns.

He did not convene epidemiologists to explain that A--a virus is gonna virus, and B---injecting the whole world with leaky experimental mRNA tech is a BAD idea!!!

He has gone along with the whole gig. Promoted it, and still is after waves of death from the vax!!!!

Either he is criminally stupid, or he's complicit. I do not know which.

Just IMO. Take it or leave it.

(Blessings, to you and everyone working their brains on this mess and not living like zombies!!)

I love Substack, and it's members.❤

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Not sure "Trump is looking at the girls and appears to be rather excited" and "I expect there was footage of Trump committing crimes with those girls" carry much incriminating weight. "Appears" and "I expect" really don't mean anything.

Maybe you missed the news about Trump banning Epstein from Mar-a-Lago. Here's one of many accounts"

https://nypost.com/2019/07/09/trump-barred-jeffrey-epstein-from-mar-a-lago-over-sex-assault-court-docs/

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Trace Epstein's contacts. Look at Trump. He was too close for too long to not know very well what was going down. Doesn't mean Jeff didn't eventually piss Donald off, or cross a line, (child sacrifice, perhaps?) that Trump would not, but, if you think Donald wasn't into sex with Jeff's toys, I think you are incredibly naive.....

My personal opinion is that Melania was a mail order child trafficked sex opportunity for Donald. Girls have been selling themselves and being sold by others for millenia. It is evil in action. Donald just bought the prettiest, and treated her fairly well financially. He's disgusting with women, and how anyone can argue otherwise is mind-blowing. It just shows their glaring blind spots, kinda like Steve's former ones with Biden, but even worse to my way of thinking.....

But hey, none of are of us are100% awake. We're all working on it!

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"My personal opinion is that Melania was a mail order child trafficked sex opportunity for Donald."

If that was the case, why would he marry her at 35?

If they had this kind of dirt on Trump, he would have been approached during the primaries, and asked to bow out. He wouldn't even approach the presidency. If it was Jeb Bush versus Hillary Clinton, the criminal syndicate that runs this nation wouldn't care who won.

Trump was a modern day Ross Perot in many ways. There was no way he was going to be allowed to be president, and again, the criminal syndicate that runs this nation - they owned by George H. Bush and Clinton, they didn't care who won.

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If they have real dirt on Trump, why go to the crazy labyrinthine trouble to set up the fake Russian "pee" dossier, then? The Dems and HRC look ridiculous (and criminal) for inventing that and then spending umpteen millions to "investigate" it.

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I have no opinion either way. It's not a subject I care to spend time on. I only intended to observe that Tim's "Trump is looking at the girls and appears to be rather excited" and "I expect there was footage of Trump committing crimes with those girls" are woefully short of compelling arguments.

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I think you just nailed it!

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Problem is over 80% of the human population are sheeple. Some by laziness, you know, the group that thinks corn and ketchup are vegetables. Others by subjugation and/or oppression, just trying to get along and make their way to their next meal. All are preyed upon to walk the line and adhere to the narrative. Makes it easy to steal cookies from that group.

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Hence Ronald Reagan's observation that "“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

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And that observation was from more than 50 years ago.

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I agree- if it were an accident, it was timed perfectly. And with the agenda already in place not to mention vaccines ready to be rolled out, accident seems less likely.

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Yep. China got Hong Kong while everybody was distracted, they got Biden into the White House, and they know the paper trail leads back to us.

All of which are good reasons not to go into China in the first place.

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That was the only place they could go this and get away with it. I want to say “almost” but it’s out in the open and in fact, they ARE getting away with it.

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Mighty helpful to knock off the 10% of your most unproductive population when there's a looming demographic crisis. They're all collectivist globalists so killing a few million wouldn't be a problem for them.

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

I am suspicious about August 2019 outbreak of E-cig sickness, https://slmcnv.org/cdc-warning-about-e-cigarettes/

Was it a trial run?

“Based on reports from several states, patients have experienced respiratory symptoms (cough, shortness of breath, or chest pain), and some have also experienced gastrointestinal symptoms (nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea) or non-specific constitutional symptoms (fatigue, fever, or weight loss). Symptoms typically develop over a period of days but sometimes can manifest over several weeks. Gastrointestinal symptoms sometimes preceded respiratory symptoms. Fever, tachycardia, and elevated white blood cell count have been reported in the absence of an identifiable infectious disease. Many patients have sought initial care in ambulatory settings, some with several visits, before hospital admission.”

And more detailed symptoms: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091743521003352#bb0080

Including “ground glass opacities” in the lungs which are also associated with Covid

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I thought about this recently too, only wondering how on Earth this either stopped entirely or the national reporting stopped entirely. Kids don't stop doing stupid things all at once, because it makes sense, do they? I spent half my life in primary care clinics trying to convince *adults* to change their habits for the better, with very little progress.

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And what a great delivery system for aerosol virus, conveniently made in China. The graph of infections/cases on the CDC web site follows the Gompertzian curve, just like Covid and varies with latitude. This could have been seasonal wave 0.0.

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Another speculation I've heard is that it was passed around in the fall 2019 flu shot.

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100%, there are no coincidences this big. One party was running the plandemic playbook well before the "leak". Gates seemed to know it was coming, which means the rest of the globalist $Blnrs knew it was coming. What we don't know is who gave the order to release it. US military, globalists, or CCP, or perhaps all working in conjunction to take down Trump. I don't think they wanted to release the universal vax strategy that early, but had to rush it when Trump disrupted their Agenda2030 timeline by winning in 2016 and poised to win again in 2020. They were pissed and got desperate. This may be our saving grace because they weren't quite prepared and will now be exposed.

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This makes perfect sense.

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Biden wasn't elected. Think about it.

Our intelligence agencies spent 4 years trying to remove Trump over some of the must ludicrous claims. Antifa and BLM were allowed to run rampant for 9 months with nobody convicted of anything - and they engaged in looting, arson, and even murder. We had 4 years of "Russian Collusion" propaganda. That wasn't enough, so we had ballot stuffing.

A man that literally couldn't get 50 people to show up to a campaign event and had an inauguration that was empty is, supposedly, the most popular presidential candidate in history having won the largest percentage of the eligible vote ever - right after a bunch of election laws were changed illegally, and we moved nationwide into mail in voting.

Guess who #2 is? Trump. The man that regularly drew crowds of 100,000 people to venues that held 50,000 people.

The US population has allowed the CIA to overthrow over 80 nations. Like what sort of "leaders" they are willing to install? They just overthrew our nation, and frankly, we deserve it.

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Completely agree, but to be fair, we have been brainwashed since we were kids with the false narrative. It would be great if all people were awake, but that will never happen. Even Republicans have a hard time accepting America's imperialism and the CIA's involvement in this country's wealth and "success." We make up 6% of the world population and control 56% of its resources. You don't get that by simply having a smart and innovative government.

All we can do is try to get the word out and hope that over time, it sinks in. But yeah, no way, he won that election, much less by $11m votes. But at least Trump effed up their plans for 4 years.

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I agree

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The current goon certainly is being complicit to the messages being fed him on the teleprompter. Right on script every time, except when he forgets who or where he is.

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That all "developed" nations are still sending teams to the Olympics in China next month tells you everything.

I'm doing my sad lonely little part in resistance. Ain't gonna watch. About as meaningful as saying my houseplants won't either. But here we are.

Only a major economic boycott of all bad actors right here in the US would enable us to start to turn the tide. So, really, all of you--and I speak with a sense of grateful community and not as some irritated prophet-in-the-wilderness wannabe--what are you willing to give up? What banks will you move your money to? Etc. etc. (My hands are filthy too, in their small way--I'm a Comcast customer. So I know our real-life choices are quite constrained unless we just want to build huts in the woods and communicate by carrier pigeon. So--seriously asking what economic actions we can promote and model?)

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We have such power as consumers and we get lazy, unfortunately, or just too damn comfortable to make changes that will make a difference. I totally agree with you, and though I love the woods and carrier pigeons, not going to go that route just yet. So, my household has given up Amazon (streaming and Prime), Netflix (yes, we’ve survived now for 4 months), Coke (and all affiliates of which there are many), NFL football (that has been the toughest but we manage), Twitter (don’t miss that platform at all using Gab, Gettr (now a bit suspect as well, waiting to see), Telegram, and following folks on locals and Substack), MLB, China made products, woke airlines (some are worse than others) and any company that shouts support of critical race theory or pronoun usage. It’s really major corporations. Whenever possible, I order directly from the Non-woke manufacturer. It’s not that difficult. We won’t even see movies if an actor (really hard to find) seems particularly anti conservative. But we’re not fading away without doing those things we loved to do so much before. If more people did this, we’d get control back of this country and bring these asshats to their knees. And we won’t be watching the Olympics.

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And we use DuckDuckGo and Qwant for browsing. Also changed to Patriot Mobile about 6 months ago and it’s FABULOUS! Half the price of woke Verizon!

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I've just checked Patriot Mobile and it's not a provider I'd be comfortable using. If others have suggestions I'd like to learn of them too. My very ancient non-smartphone was originally from Virgin Mobile who spun off the business to Boost and now 5G has made my poor little dinosaur extinct-er...

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OMG: RESPECT!!!

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Use Brave browser, Duck Duck Go search engines, cut out Amazon when you can.

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Not to mention a VPN. I use Express VPN.

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Use the websites MadeinAmerica and 2ndVote. The first helps you to not buy Chinese products and the second is even better, it lets you know where corporations spend their donation money so that you can choose not to let them pass your money along to causes to which you don't want to contribute.

There is also a group on Not The Bee called Culture Warriors. They have compiled a list of 100 everyday-type things each person can do to help fight the culture wars.

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madeinusa.com says 'coming soon. Is that the right URL?

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

I'm so sorry, I messed it up doing it from memory instead of looking at my bookmarks. It is actually madeinamerica.com. I've amended my original comment to reflect the correction.

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Read Catherine Austin Fitts! Bank at a local credit union and pay cash or check as often as possible. Buy local, buy American. Buy from countries not trying to destroy us. It's fairly straightforward. Look up BlackRock and Vanguard, and then see all the Corporations they control. Boycott as many as possible. That is the tough part. Start a letter writing campaign to their customer relations department and explain your position.

If everyone who knows what hit us does this is will start to clean out the Swamp. And finally, resist the Digital Vax Pass with ALL YOU GOT!!!!

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I used a credit union for 23 years at my old location and now use a regional cooperative bank. Almost all my household purchases (clothes, kitchenware etc.) are from our local thrift store. Still using towels from my mother's trousseau (just marked the centenary of her birth last month). Supermarket is a regional chain and I mostly buy their house label stuff.

This is the easy part. Stepping it up is harder.

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by being vaxxfree you are already being barred from service at most things, and soon online services too, I suppose. I mean, how far will they go? All the way unless they trip over some rope.

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I think that definitely some boycotting is great, definitely moving your communications to the freer platforms is in order. But before you leave the field entirely to the censors, do a healthy amount of creative shitposting and trolling, and when in public, open your mouth and speak to strangers when you can, maybe a T-shirt, bumper sticker, flyer, that you can post or leave behind so that communication is not so monopolized by the official channels controlled by Blackrock and Vanguard’s owners.

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I'm a regular contributor to my regional newspaper's letter column; I was one of only two in that forum who publicly expressed refusal to get vaxxed (to much enraged response); my letter noting that "green" energy is a lie and describing its human and environmental true costs was just published; the NYT republished some of my comments on threads as letters to the editor; I tell ya, I been doing my part that way since the '80s. I never shut up, I promise you.

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...and my letter reviling the Democrats for supporting/demanding the masking of children and permitting schools to force kids to eat outside in horrible weather was also just published.

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So true! We need to publicly speak out and we wear t-shirts (our fave lately as been a let’s go Brandon). I’m considering flyers outside my local CVS with the stats on masks’ uselessness and highlighting vaxx info and where anyone can find those stats.

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This guy has some interesting ideas about current big societal changes that I think are a pretty accurate assessment...and yes, some of them do involve building huts in the woods and communicating by carrier pigeon....well, not quite. But it's worth a quick read:

https://oftwominds.cloudhostedresources.com/?task=get&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.oftwominds.com%2Fblogjan22%2Freal-revolution1-22.html

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The thing is, I wouldn't have found Gato, or Eugyppius, or Alexandros Marinos, or Martin Kulldorf, or Geert van den Bossche, etc. etc. etc., if I hadn't started browsing publicly-available Twitter feeds. (Don't have an acct. myself.) One must use the tools available but subvert them for one's own purpose as much as possible.

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You are exactly right, IMO. If 10% went your direction it would shift us quickly.

Thanks for being part of the resistance!

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After all the lies, all the propaganda, all the obfuscation, all the competing narratives, I have to say my favorite origin story is the cartoon of the Wuhan cat knocking down the COVID-19 vial 😹😹😹

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That is the best laugh I have had since Biden slammed his palm on the podium and yelled "I'm tired of being quiet".

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Yes, I was going to make a comment about that as soon as I got to that meme!

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It's so much easier to make the virus and the "vaccine" at the same time. Isn't it?

I assume you've read the Project Veritas documents. DARPA rejected the submission as too dangerous? I believe that's the official messaging, but I'm not sure it's what really happened. Robert Malone, who has a long history with DARPA, says his contact within claims they are still funding the WIV.

The Project Veritas documents, which align with an earlier release by DRASTIC, claim that Daszak approached DARPA for funding for his mad scientist "inoculate all the bats 'cause what could go wrong" experiment. DARPA said no because it was just too dangerous, so Daszak reached out to Uncle Tony at NIAID. They speculate that WIV created a frankencoronavirus that somehow escaped before it was attenuated for the planned aerosol release in the bat cave in Yunnan.

It was an attempt to save us all from the horrible, bad thing that might happen at some time in the future. They were not trying kill us all.

I have questions.

Why did they create such a toxic spike protein? Surely, they knew it damaged endothelial cells.

Why did they create two mRNA and two DNA-VV "vaccines" that targeted the spike...and only the spike?

And, of course, why did Billy "eugenics is my thing and there are too many people on the planet" Gates just happened to make some very well timed investments in certain biotech and Pharma companies? Hmmmmm.

Why did they suppress information about HCQ and Ivermectin? Why did they arrest and threaten doctors? Why did they block access and, in some countries, change the drug status from OTC to prescription?

If they'd screwed up so badly and they were trying to cover their collective asses, why would they block access to the very drugs that could extinguish the fire? It doesn't make sense.

Baric wrote a paper in 2010 (I believe) that identified HCQ activity against SARS. They knew. They lied. They blocked access. They gaslighted the world. And the morons in media aided and abetted because it hurt Trump.

I can believe that the release was accidental, but I'm not convinced it wasn't part of a bio-weapons program. Too many puzzle pieces just don't fit.

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The frustrating thing for me is, I don't believe we'll ever have reliable answers. The world is moved by those in shadows of shadows... and since no one in any position of authority in the West is ever held responsible anymore, there's no way to bring light to those shadows.

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I think gato's point writ large is that we can no longer accept "the way things are". People who do bad must be exposed and face consequences.

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The whole "we are just doing this in case something like this develops & we want to make a vax for it" story has always been the stated rationale for doing GOF research. Just like Elon Musk is developing brain nanochips to help Parkinson's & so on. It sounds a lot better than the real reason - but you would have to be really naive to believe it!

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Mass Psychosis and Crowd Formation:

Michael Yeadon and Mattias Desmet on Jerm Warfare

https://jermwarfare.com/blog/mattias-desmet-mike-yeadon

MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

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If it was just a whoopsie they would have allowed generic drugs and early treatment.

That they suppressed genuine early treatment options in favour of no treatment, toxic remdesivir and the dangerous gene therapy injections tells me it was intentional.

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Reason. Let's utilize it more often!

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Not necessarily. It could be a case of "Yippee! This could be the pandemic we've been waiting for! The one where we get to whip up fear and a sense of dependency on The Science™ so we can rush out experimental mRNA jabs without any real scrutiny!" It could be opportunism.

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Sorry, no. Read more Mike Yeadon and more Catherine Austin Fitts, Dr. David E. Martin, Jon Rapport, (sp) etc.

Too many levers were applied BEFORE SARS-COV-2 flew out of Wuhan Institute of Virology on bat wings....

Remdesivir and ventilators were utilized to create deaths, to create fear, to create acceptance of lockdowns, to destroy independent businesses, to destroy the middle class and financial independence, to bring in the vax, which will kill off many older people, provide real time permanent track and trace capabilities, and finally link your banking and freedom of movement to your acceptance of a technology which will end your life span at 65. Or before. Wipes out the government's social security shortfall. Gives total power to the sociopaths.

The Shots were made before Covid got out. They had a patent filed 2 days later.

Changed the definitions of Vaccine, Pandemic, and voided Nuremburg Freedom of Speech, and the Rule of Law. Took millions of Businesses without legal precedence or proceedings.

Brought in a toxic experimental product and killed 100,000s of people, just at the beginning of this. Spent millions, perhaps billions, on the advertisement campaign to sell the vax, and all nations moved together in lockstep, with the plan.

Vilified Ivermectin and HCQ, tried to get NAC banned, as well. Truly a coordinated attack on humanity from all directions.

Wait until cancer rates blow through the roof. Deaths in the working age group, 18 to 64, have jumped 40%, 3rd and 4th quarters, post vaccine mandates, already, and that's with only 60% jabbed.

It's a Plan. Not an "oh look, here's a great opportunity!" This took a decade, or more, to get in place.

We must be very conscious to defeat it. Not in a state of denial as to what has actually happened. That will lead to not taking this situation seriously enough, and making more poor choices, IMO.

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yes and Dr David Martin says has proof that Ralph Baric at UNC Chapel Hill, NC did the work of making the virus lethal to humans, he has proof of patents of virus, vaccines, etc. from years before

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Is this like the firefighter who is the arsonist and then gets to the fire first and calls himself the hero? I’m sensing a pattern here...

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Exactly. And that's why this part of the "Spiked" column suggests its author is STILL blind, at least to the "savior" element:

"The technical accomplishment of weakening Covid-19 and holding at bay its most pernicious impacts on human health is one thing (and a great thing)."

I made an analogy similar to yours over in MeWe:

“Wow the fire department was on the scene in less than a minute! They’re great!“

Yeah, well, they’re the ones who started the fire in the first place, so they had that going for them…

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Jan 13, 2022·edited Jan 13, 2022

Dr. David Martin has been spreading the word about this for a while. https://www.davidmartin.world/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The_Fauci_COVID-19_Dossier.pdf It is clear the vaxx and virus projects have been running in tandem for a while. There is a gov doc, a tech transfer agreement, of a coronavirus vaccine from NIH/Moderna to Dr. Ralph Baric in late 2019. https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/06/18/confidential-documents-reveal-moderna-sent-mrna-coronavirus-vaccine-candidate-to-university-researchers-weeks-before-emergence-of-covid-19/ There's Daszak's statement from 2016: “Daszak reiterated that, until an infectious disease crisis is very real, present, and at an emergency threshold, it is often largely ignored. To sustain the funding base beyond the crisis, he said, we need to increase public understanding of the need for MCMs such as a pan-influenza or pan-coronavirus vaccine. A key driver is the media, and the economics follow the hype. We need to use that hype to our advantage to get to the real issues. Investors will respond if they see profit at the end of process, Daszak stated.” I found this quote on my own in spring/summer 2020 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK349040/

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A good book to read that pretty much slams Dazack, Faucistein, Bill Gates and DARPA is Miranda Devine’s book on the virus. I’m a few pages into Robert Kennedy JR’s book on Faucistein and it is incriminating for his response on the AID’s crisis in the 1980’s. Kennedy’s book is a paltry $2.99 as a Kindle: 700 pages with thousands of footnotes and bibliographies.

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And "CoViD 19 and the Global Predators; We are the Prey" Peter Roger Breggin, Ginger Breggin, also being offered for that same price on the kindle. I have just gotten into it and it's astonishing. Astonishing to see it all documented and written down. I was already aware of parts of the story, but just as with RFK's book, you need to see all the information organised and ordered to be able to grasp the overall picture properly. I highly recommend you add it to your kindle, and make a back-up of the documents on the kindle in case they try and withdraw it. They reserve themselves that right. be warned.

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I read RFK's book on Kindle, but I also bought a hard copy in case they do try to withdraw it.

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I find it curious that Amazon sells such potentially blockbuster books, that expose huge swathes of what is obviously corruption at the highest levels of government, corporate, billionaires, etc. Yet they ruthlessly censor other controversial topics, say, to question the Jewish Holocaust, or various questions about racial differences, even works that are, or verge upon, being scholarly. It's all the more tantalizing because those topics appeal, at most, to small, fringe interests. There may be other "forbidden topics," but what I've mentioned so far would not seem to fall into traditionally restricted stuff like child pornography or building homemade atom bombs. In fairness to giants like Amazon, even though they are part of the problem, I will concede that the malfeasance surrounding the entire pandemic is far more timely, having a huge impact on the present quality of (and losses of) life globally, than the other topics I've mentioned. Also, they probably are making a lot more money off the current pandemic bestsellers than some rehash of "Mein Kampf" from sixty years ago.

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I also read "Mein Kampf" in German on my Kindle. (I read it in German because I was investigating Hitler's use of the word "Weltanschauung".)

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it would be pitchforks and hsngings ifpeople knew how their money e=was spent in dod and hhs.....

most of those crimes only got soldiers and allies killed.

fda's crimes have now killed 850K

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many many more I would say. FDA rules the world, or is part of that.

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All I could feel while reading this is overwhelming outrage that the batshit crazy Daszak is free living his normal life while there are Jan 6 protesters locked up FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, some of them not charged with anything, for what? Trespassing?!

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Yeah actually that was insurrection, sedition, criminal violence, vandalism AND trespassing.

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"we’re not safe from this happening again because such research is ongoing. but we’re also not safe from outright blackmail and espionage."

This is the angle to take, to break the mass formation psychosis. IIRC, Mathias Dement said in order to break the psychosis, people need another even bigger worry to become the focus of their attention.

Well, how's this for a worry? The same psychopaths that hot-wired the thing that's had you shivering in your zoom corner for 2 years are hotwiring even crazier things as we speak.

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Keep watching for information about the "Furin Cleavage Site" (aka "FCS") because this technical item has always been the money-shot in sussing out lab-origin. The recent Fauci email FOIA dump has advisory docs in February 2020 saying "the one thing I don't buy is that the FCS could have arisen in one strain and one strain alone, adding 4 amino acids, 12 nucleotides, out of nowhere, and made this thing lethal only to humans with no other anticipatory or related strains of Spike-1 ever discovered in the wild with ZERO mutation to Spike-2....and conclude this was a natural evolution." Important why? Because ex-NIH head Francis Collins and Fauci took that information, told Daszak and Baric that other docs know the sequence and don't buy the story, and then proceeded to lie in ways seldom witnessed in history. They are in a cover-up upon which their literal lives probably depend. In another regime, these would be war crimes. They bought 18 months of "conspiracy theory" cover from media, but that shell is now cracked. Time to pour in the salt. Explain to your skeptical friends that the "FCS cassette" is statistically impossible as evolution in the wild, don't be dumb, it is clear now to all that Fauci cannot be trusted.

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Behind the mad scientists are money men. There is a reason this got moved to China and funded.

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Military research?

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The people involved have clearly demonstrated that they are narcissists/sociopaths so we can assume the work was not done to advance a public good. Some have postulated the vaccine is the bioweapon. The deviousness required to implement something like that is Dr. Evil level, but the fact that China and Russia both dodged the mRNA vaccines is curious. Not to say either country instigated this, but they possibly knew something was amiss. For the globalist/population reduction cabal it would be a minimally disruptive way to significantly increase mortality for the next 50 years and make US/China the scapegoats. Almost no one would need to know, the corruption/authoritarianism necessary to drive it forward are pre-existing and sufficient.

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There is a reason why we have the "mad scientist" trope.

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