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In 2009, Pfizer paid the largest healthcare fraud settlement in history - $2.3 BILLION for fraudulent marketing. Our society has the memory and intellect of a goldfish. Good thing we have a vigilant cat here...

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$2.3 billion, chump change.

Pfizer in 2022: Hold my beer.

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Exactly. It's the price for doing business.

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Yep industry was worth 400b a year at time so definitely chump change.

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And we are being played for chumps.

Now they want to play us for chimps!

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^^^That.

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They've been pushing prices of their 'medicines' up many fold since the 90s. They've had a compliant insurance industry and in those countries that don't do insurance, like the UK, a compliant health department both of whom do no protest as a pill goes from a few cents to several hundred dollars. I'm sure Matthew has his eye on this sham.

The problem is this;

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/10/22/the-147-companies-that-control-everything/

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I guess that's if Matthew survives the margin call on BTC.

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Aye, Comrade.

On that note, here's a url I saved of a NYT search I did during the winter.

Search string "pharmaceutical fines", date range Jan 1990 to Jan 2022. Many, many hits:

https://www.nytimes.com/search?dropmab=false&endDate=20220112&query=pharmaceutical%20fines&sort=best&startDate=19900101

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Another good PhARMA fine tracker on ProPublica graphic

https://web.archive.org/web/20130314030955/https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma

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A good one! I searched their site and found a 2014 update of the same thing there:

https://projects.propublica.org/graphics/bigpharma

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Trust and believe, if the shots were being pushed by Conservatives, that fraud settlement would be a main talking point.

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Yes. I believe I saw that on an American Greed episode. Watch that and you will see what Pfizer's business SOP is - outright fraud.

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But how many in society even knew about this settlement?

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I did. There’s about a million really good reasons I made the decision not vaccinate my children over 30 years ago, a lack of liability was merely one.

Anywho, I heard that fraud vitiates EVERYTHING.

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They changed sides after the election. If Trump were president, they would be the leading anti-vaxxers in the country. Ironically, under Trump there would be no mandates (even if Trump wanted to) and vax uptake would be way lower.

Yet they tell us not to politicize the virus.

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You’re correct. My family ranted and raved when Trump was in the WH, “no vax for me!”. As soon as FJB moved in, they follow him like sheep and sing his praises. One person, double jabbed and double boosted said “thank goodness we’ve got a good guy in the WH, or we’d all be dead from covid”. And they actually believe this crap.

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Maybe that's why Trump was swapped out.

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Big Pharma certainly hated him because his moves to increase price transparency.

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Jun 23, 2022·edited Jun 23, 2022

but Trump's admin cut the deal with Big Pharma to rush these vaccines through approval and into our arms. I gotta believe Big Pharma also has some love for Trump. and Trump's admin leaned on FDA to approve this jab in a hurry -- so Biden's admin could not claim credit for it! Trump BELIEVES in the Covid jabs.

shit, I still remember liberal snarky MSM pundits telling us how stupid Trump was to believe that a coronavirus vaccine could be developed and approved in under 4 years.

and once Sleepy Joe was wheeled into the WH the landscape turned upside down!

none of it makes any sense.

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I'm not a fan of Trump but yes Pharma has been playing games with drug prices for a generation or so.

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So true. When (pre covid) I found myself talking with someone who was hard-left I found that I could at least find common ground with the subject of Big Pharma. However, after Biden became president most of the hard-lefters couldn't wait to get Big Pharma's jabs.

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Have we all forgotten the opioid crisis?

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Cats cull dumb Goldfish ;)

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=^:^=

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Your hope springs eternal.

I hope you're right, but I have no such optimism. I suspect there's a lot of mileage left in this sick fraud.

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the trick will be getting the politicos to see that they WANT to find fraud because it gets them off the hook.

that's the key pivot.

manage that, and the rest is inevitable.

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I don't think a jabbed politician will be able to accept that the jab that made them safe from certain death is bad. So... I don't know if they can psychologically pivot.

People are broken now. Really, really broken. As in "we need a cult deprogrammer stat."

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

Was mind-blowing yesterday listening to ostensibly intelligent parents, many of whom were healthcare professionals, begging the FDA to approve minimally tested, non-sterilizing, experimental gene therapy targeting an extinct antigen so that their zero-risk toddlers could experience for the first time a restaurant or a daycare or a park.

An associate professor of classics explained that her husband, who works with unmasked people (those selfish wretches), has been living in the garden for the last year to avoid possibly infecting her toddler "who has no protection against covid." Although the family separation has been painful (her toddler crys uncontrollably when she catches a glimpse through the window of her papa slinking to his quarantine shed), it’s all been worthwhile, says Caroline, because her husband got a scratchy throat last week from those sub-human scum at his maskless office.

With yesterday’s approval, the family is starting ever so slowly to breathe again as they’re now only 2-3 experimental jabs away from the slight chance of their toddler at statistically zero risk from covid attaining an infinitesimal, rapidly waning increase in antibody titers for an extinct SARS2 antigen.

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Mental illness is the real pandemic.

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Spiritual illness preceded it.

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MAJOR!✝️

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Da!

You need to mention this fact more often, Lon.

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Our country is rife with it. It comes in all different shapes and forms.

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How else could you explain a triple-jabbed outdoors worker who invoked the experiences of China? When I countered with Sweden, he shut up that line of reasoning.

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This is why I stopped feeling bad for anyone but the kids.

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I was reviewing some history of societies that engaged in ritualistic sacrifice, esp of children, virginal girls etc. I never thought I would see American culture and society degenerate into a cult of child sacrifice. how else could one describe it?

masking, jabs etc. The singled out the most vulnerable least able portion of our society for scapegoating and they cant even see the evil they are doing. They think they are protecting their own children , when really they are only using their children to assuage their own guilt and fear

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Too bad we can’t convince the authors of this genocide to jump into a live volcano for the overall Greater Good.

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its really horrific. It really is a genocide. ANd when you start trying to explain it even in the most dispassionate and rational terms... like hey maybe children dont need to take this shot.. Hey no drug is 100 percent safe and effective and there is no need to mandate it. Hey... maybe the gov and pfizer have some conflicts of interest... you get cut off and called names.... "did you vote for Trump"

Someday I hope to live to see this mass psychosis break and masses of people come to their senses.

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🙏🏻🙏🏻🙌🏻

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So, I never could grasp witch burning.

Now, sadly, I do.

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read this from Nathaniel Hawthornes' House of the Seven gables.

"Old Matthew Maule, in a word, was executed for the crime of witchcraft. . He was one of the martyrs to that terrible delusion, which should teach us, among its other morals, that the influential classes, and those who take upon themselves to be leaders of the people, are fully liable to all the passionate error that has ever characterized the maddest mob. Clergymen, judges, statesmen,—the wisest, calmest, holiest persons of their day stood in the inner circle round about the gallows, loudest to applaud the work of blood, latest to confess themselves miserably deceived. If any one part of their proceedings can be said to deserve less blame than another, it was the singular indiscrimination with which they persecuted, not merely the poor and aged, as in former judicial massacres, but people of all ranks; their own equals, brethren, and wives."

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I grew up in a religious Jewish home. I am 54 years old. my parents knew some genocide survivors. Some of the most ardent committed Nazis were drawn from the professional classes. The doctors, architects, engineers. etc. More than half of the german MDs joined the nazi party. fear, ignorance , cowardice, for sure just like the US over the last 2 years with the masks and the vax'es . but some of the Germans were true believers. Brainwashed fools.... just like now. Human frailty...

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Well said "when really they are only using their children to assuage their own guilt and fear"

That's how trauma is perpetuated

Trauma healing is the most important skill we need right now

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tthanks: hundreds of millions of people were existentially traumatized by Dr fauci and pharma / gov health agency et al... and they need to process the trauma but instead they are externalizing and projecting it onto the easiest group that puts up the list resistence.,

pathologized totalitarianism

https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/pathologized-totalitarianism-101?s=r

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Add to that Abortion at any point up to birth, tranny hormones, bodily mutilation w/ confused kids too….

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I have tears in my eyes, thinking about these innocent children, let to the slaughter by their F upped parents.

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I listened in sheer horror and disbelief to this pathetic plea for saving.

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You heard Dr. Bishop? I can't get out of my head the image of baby crying as she spies her once-loving dad slinking around the yard.

It truly was eye-opening to hear so many parents broken by 2.5 years of government, pharma and media gaslightling, fear-mongering, and lies begging to inject their perfectly safe and healthy babies with unneeded experimental medication that has VERY poor short-term -- and NO mid- or long-term -- safety and efficacy data.

We must take public health down to the studs and rebuild with credible checks, balances and incentives. I like El Gato's proposal to make all data, analysis, replication, and approvals open source.

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Yes - I had to read that a number of times to fully understand and then process the utter violence of it: " crys uncontrollably"

I recall an account of a parent - I think applying official guidance - subjecting a young child (10 yr old or so) to two weeks of in home solitary confinement (aka quarantine) after a "positive test" - "Mommy ! - I'm lonely!" "It's only two weeks, dear" was the response from the other side of the closed (locked?/barred?) door.

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That baby, if it lives, will be traumatized for life because it's mother is a psychopath and it's father went along with it.

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darwinian ignorance

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Don't read too much into it. Most likely staged.

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Insanity is contagious in the homo "sapien" you do know?

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You mean mass delusional psychosis is real : I know. when those masks went on in April 2020 was when I was really afraid. I wasnt afraid of covid so much but those masks... a mass delusional psychosis! LIke that movie invasion of the body snatchers. I was all prepped out at home...

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Wow. Horrible.

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😳

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🤢🤮

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Wow. This is brilliant and shocking.

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This is so sad and a bit sick

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😳😳😳🤯😢

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Interesting thing about cult deprogramming. I read a little about it during a brief period I was studying interrogation/interview techniques.

It's not really "liberating" the cultists from mind control. It's mostly just overwriting the bad narrative with the "more desirable" one. Reverse brainwashing, if you will.

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Anywhere I can read more about this? I have renewed my interest in hypnosis and NLP, having seen how gullible the majority of the public have been.

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Here's a phenomenally sinister thinkpiece that is 100% true from my days in marketing. I am not directly familiar with the author.

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Damn it, the link didn't post. will try to find it again.

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it is not so much gullible as it is just like being water boarded.

Same technique, just drown these people into submission via media of all and any sort

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Overwriting a bad narrative. Interesting. So really, if you expose a person to the opposite information for X amount of time, you can overcome it.

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In a nutshell, yes, but that's a little bit of an oversimplification.

There's a concept in persuasion (I'm sure you've heard the word so I'm not intending to be pedantic, just emphasizing that it has context-specific meaning here) called 'receptivity.' The common meaning is close, but in this context the meaning is closer to 'suggestibility' or 'hypnotizability.'

Receptivity is very highly influenced by emotional state, which is in turn influenced by a bunch of things, but to a great extent physical state- think sleep deprivation, hunger, sexual arousal, euphoria, etc. This is why cult programming incorporates so many of these states.

I could ramble on for a long time about this, but to respond to your comment directly: yes, in principle you're correct, but to be "as persuasive" as a "bad" message, you probably have to behave in ways you'd consider unethical if you don't like the way things have been going lately. The classic techniques of cult deprogramming in the 60s-80s would be considered soft torture at best today: sleep deprivation, overstimulation, restraint, etc.

To apply it to our current context, if we wanted to swap the current signal for a new signal as quickly and effectively as the current signal was laid down, we'd have to apply equal levels of coercion, fear, repetition, and confusion for your hypothetical X time period to balance out.

Otherwise, it would take MUCH longer- and be susceptible to interference and distraction all along the way.

Am I making sense?

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Yes, you make complete sense. I did, of course, see The Simpsons episode where they had to de-program Homer and the kids when they joined the cult. LOL.

Mathias Desmet says that we have to keep speaking our truth; not persuading, simply stating things and eventually people will come out of it. I don't think that's the case. They tapped into the fear of death, and I really think that has kind of broken most people.

My husband and I know three people who have stated that they want to get off the vaxxine bandwagon. Everyone else is happy in their programming, and does not want to take the red pill.

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I support the "current thing"

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Right- if the new thing is to hate the vaccinators & pharma companies- it might just work !

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How many and who in politics actually got the real jab?

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I've been wondering for some time now how high up in the food chain the advance knowledge about the jabs went. I'm sure Fauci was plugged-in enough to avoid actually getting jabbed, but was, say, Gavin Newsom? Members of Congress? JOE BIDEN?! Inquiring minds want to know!

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Presidentish* Bite-me is the only person in America who is surrounded by multi-Covid-infected staff & officials who has NEVER gotten covid. Does anyone believe that?

I think lesser politicians & celebrities could be sacrificed for the propaganda; but also, bad outcomes are tied, in @ least some cases to lot #s. I would have anticipated the “bad” batches would be funneled to red states

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I live in Ashland Oregon. Very well off, very Blue. Few Covid jab injuries, some of course, but nothing stunning. Most believe they are fine, and maybe they are. A few older individuals passed around the time of the booster roll out for the early adopters, but nothing shocking.

Medford, 8 miles north, Red, not well off, working class, lots and lots of sudden deaths post injections! Stunning really. And many who died on the Covid Train in hospital.

Totally different objective, (and subjective,) realities.

Don't even try to convince me it was by chance. I cannot buy it.

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I assumed Sleepy

Joe didn’t get a real

one but then, his cognitive skills went downhill like a fat kid on a greased slide.

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My husband, who holds two complex degrees from acclaimed universities, and graduated with high honors actually took 4 clot shots based on the “4-5 kings of the world” having taken it, Trump, Biden, Obama and Idk who else qualified in his mind. When I said, “Did they get the actual SHOT, though?” he guffawed. He’s the healthiest/crunchiest eater and exercise guy I know. He got A-Fib and had heart surgery, so there’s that. But what do I know? I was a lowly school teacher and now I just read voraciously— hours per day, about THIS stuff.

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"jabbed politician"

Call me crazy, but I think saline injections played a pivotal role in the mass-jabbing of the political class.

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This could very well be the case! No one seems to know beforehand what they're getting jabbed with, and the jabbers don't even know what's in the ingredients list. Russian roulette is for the masses, not government elites, although there was one congressman from a western state, Utah maybe, that did have a debilitating reaction after getting the shot.

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Gavin Newsome, governor of California, disappeared for a week or two because of GBS. He's eminently unlikeable, probably even among other politicos, so maybe someone slipped him a real cocktail instead of a virgin one.

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One politician lost his 17 yo daughter “suddenly” this past week…

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People are STUPID

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Or Just Plain Nuts

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Most of them got saline, IMO

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We who were highly skeptical from the beginning of this are not so shocked at the revelations we have gotten about the pfraud, lying, deceit. However, those who bought into the whole lie hook, line and sinker are the shocked and disillusioned ones. Some of them are having a very hard time facing realty.

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The covidians I know are still buying the lie hook-line-sinker. I’ve never had one of those people ask me why I resisted, or express regret for believing & going all in on the jab/masks/etc. I don’t ask & they don’t tell. Early on, I railed against them Re all of that but it fell on deaf ears. Now, I prefer to avoid the topic because it would be impossible to hide my contempt for their stupidity

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Yep. Everyone I know is happy that they got the vaxx, and are looking forward to their boosters to keep them safe from covid. We tried talking to people about the side effects. No one would listen. No one. All the people we know who are not injected came to that conclusion themselves.

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Or an exorcist l…

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But do professors in academia, pharmacists and practicing MDs really get off the hook? I know I am held to a higher standard in my profession, as I am considered to have a higher level of sophisticated knowledge than the public. If an educated expert has the knowledge to write and/or interpret pharmaceutical trials then why did they ignore and dismiss the early studies showing how potentially dangerous these shots were? Shouldn't they have seen the potential fraud before us laypersons did? Before the Pfizer dump, there were many studies raising red flags. Lipid nano particles designed to cross the blood brain barrier for alzheimers and then used as a delivery system for Mrna spike proteins. What?? I am not a doctor, just a salesman with a non science undergrad degree, but I saw that delivery system as a major red flag that scared the crap out of me.

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Doctors are complicit! NO question. This did not have to happen. Oh and media is EVIL!!!

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Doctors had to make a choice between losing their jobs or complying w the jabs. My GP told me when you work for a health care “system” you do as your lawyers advise. They were between a rock and a hard place.

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No excuse. I lost my job for saying no..

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I’m so sorry 😞🙏🏽

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I would expect that moral people would leave rather than do what they knew was wrong. Doctors are held to a higher standard. They vow to "do no harm". When they know they are doing harm they must speak up. No excuses!

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I lost my career for saying “No”!

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🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

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I get that it was a tough position to be in. However, I am not talking about them taking the jab, I am talking about them advising their patients to take it. Following orders (from lawyers or the higher ups) hasn't been a valid defense in history., especially if you took the hippocratic oath. People were also between a rock and a hard place in Germany circa 1930-1945.

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They'll pay with loss of patients.

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All the docs had to do was band together and say, No. the 'systems' would have caved.

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That’s true with ALL of the workers… All the blue-collar people at my sons work decided they would ALL WALK OUT if management mandated the shot… management DIDNT! I think they realized their company would grind to a halt! The workers had the power to stop this!

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Precisely

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On point.

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Sorry, not sorry… they don’t get a free “harm your patients” and get out of jail card… What they are doing is complicit with maleficence… Putting your job before people’s lives is never going to be okay… 🔥

Harm by omission (lack of prescribing early treatments) or commission (promotion of the killshot) is still harm… this nurse is FED UP… 😡

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May God keep you in His care and guide you! God bless you sister! ✝️💜😡 (and if you’re a male nurse, change it to brother-lol!)

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AMEN! I agree with you 💯%! And you have every right to be fed up! I say, if you’re NOT pissed off, you have a screw loose! If I was a nurse, I couldn’t do it knowing what we all know now. Is it worth a loaf of bread? Talk about a teaching moment for children! I’m sure my former coworkers that were terminated with children, explained why daddy/mommy were doing what they did. I’m proud of them! I had age so I was able to retire 3 yrs. early for not testing/jab. We are FORMER deputies.

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Mainstream media reported the opposite though. Dissenting voices were silenced or branded conspiracy theorists. You actually had to look in places like substack or the right twitter accounts to get real information. You could get a bit out of youtube, but anyone spreading too much truth would get a ban.

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Im a doc and ive been horrified to watch most of the other docs in my community and around the world abandon their ethics. Alot of docs are very status conscious and not at all brave or individualistic

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You can never paint all Docs (or all people in a certain industry) with the same brush. There are some very honorable ones that have spoken out and done the right thing, it is just very sad how they were the very, very small minority. Society has placed Docs on a high pedastal, as being above greed or ego, not sure many still view docs with such high esteem today. Some of the docs on twitter that have gained followers and media coverage are so hard to watch. I know of one in my city that writes poetry about patients' death in the ER on his twitter feed and is happy to receive accolades about how saintly he is from his followers. Ughhh.. just absolute cringe. I can't imagine how he thinks it is okay to talk about patients deaths and make it about himself and encourage others to stroke his ego about his nobility.

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

same for my democratic congressman. Thanks doc!

Edit….not sure how many dem or rep will go after fraud, play the blame game.

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Sounds like the bargaining stage of grief. ;)

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

The politicos are not the ones in charge. A marionette dances as the puppet masters tells it to, and it never turns against its master, which is the banking cartel. The masters will try to come to the rescue of everyone exactly at the right time, usuring their magic solution: cbdcs followed by a period of economical recovery. But of course, only if the masses agree to certain conditions. That will be the trick that must be avoided. Afterwards, once chaos really hits, all bets are off. The politicos puppets might even turn sentient and attack the hand that kept them on strings for such a long time.

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I can’t remember where I read this but I think Pfizer’s defense it can’t be fraud because the government knew it was fraud. Anyone else?

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yes. They said that in response to the Whistle blower, Brook Jackson, lawsuit.

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There have been very special legal exemptions created because of the "national emergency" and "pandemic of international concern."

Biologics require almost zero safety anyway and the Prep Act gave them extra indemnification. Plus the tricky "emergency" crap.

However, just like the Cat, (and Edward Dowd,) I believe that when the true scope of their crime hits the fan, "blood" will be demanded and "blood" will be paid.

The government will be so scared that it will be the end of them that they will happily put Pfizer, Fouci and Moderna on the chopping block to appease the masses. Maybe FDA CDC etc as well..

At least that's my best guess too, once all the nasty reality becomes known to the vax injected.

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Kirsch brought this up the other day.

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Barnes rocks

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I am willing to bet there are private discussions happening already, perhaps months ago.

This is probably the biggest shitshow of the century.

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I wonder if in 1990 the giant brains in the Kremlin were trying to figure out what they needed to do to survive: Maybe an attack by the US or NATO or a revolt in a small repuglic would get everyone's mind off the collapsing economy . . .

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Given the enormous number of cowards on the defensive side of this fraud they will flip on each other to save themselves once it's clear they have skin in the game.. then they will fall like the rows of dominoes that all drop with the first push... keep pushing, we've got this!

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Good point. If they aren't off the hook, they will turn more authoritarian in an attempt to control the outraged public.

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As you said, though, there's constantly new political blood flowing into the system. Sooner or later it will be politically advantageous to go after the 'old guard' who was for the lockdowns.

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“The trick is not to elect the right people, but to exert the politicsl pressure to get the wrong people to do the right thing.” (badly paraphrasing Milton Friedman)

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Yes, but if those companies own Congress, meaning that they fund their campaigns.... Congress is as captured as the agencies with few exceptions.

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Hasn’t DeSantis already started? Will it be GOP driven?

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As more prominent parents start losing their children...

Little people are just silent invisible griefs but them folks is gonna make it Shakespearean. No satisfaction in this, mind you.

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

Agreed. I cannot image the pain of losing a child but when the right lawyer or congress critter experiences that on the same or next day of their child receiving the safe and effective vax, it will be game on.

Just like a four legged furry friend unraveling a ball of yarn, so too will the thread of the deceit and fraud perpetrated upon the hypnotized begin to unravel. Slowly at first and then gaining speed to make big tobacco and the opioid crisis look like an ambulance chaser’s frivolous slip, trip and fall lawsuit.

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

I believe they already did.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=biontech+stock+price

the mafioto foundation bought biontech stocks worthy of 50 million in oct 2019 and sold them a little after they reached 400$/share. Quite a return of investment.

The real tell will be when they start packing and head for those bunkers in new zeeland and argentina after releasing a nuclear armageddon on the angry world population.

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Been saying this about autism for years. Problem is the “special” people don’t want to admit they have a less than perfect child so they don’t speak out!

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A Congressman's teenage daughter just joined the Died Suddenly Club. He was a big vax advocate, too. I do wonder if the possible connection has crossed his mind...

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He made a point of cleaning his references to their family jabs from his twitter.

Some resourceful detective found them.

He knows. His "grieving parent" routine is just that. Protect his image over saving other parents from making his mistake

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Can you give us a URL for those deleted tweets?

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Not a url. But a reference to this morning's Coffee & Covid from Jeff Childers.

It actually was the daughter's tweet's that were deleted & 1 salvaged.

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Saw the same thing here. State Senator, (Manning, Oregon) lost beloved wife, post "safe and effective" vax.

Don't think he had a clue at the time, big vax and pharma guy, but now it may be sinking in. Who knows?

But I've thought all along, it will be the vaxxed who end this!

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The point of my comment.

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Then there are more celebs like J Bieber and girlfriend who have their lives and careers ruined. Surely they have to get resentful and litigious eventually.

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More for me, then. 😊

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There's no profit anywhere to be taken from a parent's agony.

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I feel bad for the kids. That's all.

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Same here!

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Unless you study up on deliberate Satanic sacrifice as a rite of passage to higher levels in the game…

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*Darryl Cooper has entered the chat.*

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The masks made all the rest of this possible. People broke their brains on the neural programming of hair shirts and oxygen deprivation and facial isolation. Their misery at this adoption became externalized into a variant on the boarding-school parent mantra that this hell must be good for my children because I went through it and there has to be a reason for that.

The masking has to come down as hard as the vaccines. I wish I knew how to do it, but it needs the same level of court press. If they get away with the masking, this will never end.

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Look up Terror Management Theory. Add that into Mass Formation Psychosis and it explains where the majority of people are right now.

I suspect, rather than know, that the people who don't watch the MSM or any kind of news were less likely to be taken in by the propaganda.

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I am so curious as to how deep the similarities run between people who haven't fallen for all of this. For instance, I am not a good candidate for hypnotherapy. It's not that I fight it; it just doesn't stick to create a new neural pathway for me. I can do deep meditative healing work, but not with anything that programs in that way.

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I'm the same and always have been. Hypnosis (for me anyway) is a joke. I am a ad agency's nightmare because I literally never, ever respond to ads. I read a lot, create a lot, cogitate a lot. I'm a social introvert. To me, in the early days of this insanity, I saw no way in hell people were going to go along with it. It was patently idiotic. And yet here we are.

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Bingo! Introverts tend to be okay being alone and not really caring about what the group wants or does. Being excluded isn't a big deal. Alot of times it is actually preferred to be excluded so you can be alone. This group programming does not work too well on people that often resist being in groups. Not that I am speaking from experience or anything....

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Im an extrovert and I have never ever had a problem not following the crowd. Im immensely stubborn and wild horses can't drag me to do someting I dont want to. It isn't always an introvert thing....

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Thank you for pointing this out. I would see comments, even in the threads on all the usual Substacks, that lockdown and masks were an "introverts' dream". And I was like no, this is our nightmare. That's an anti-social dream.

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Thank you for pointing this out. I would see comments, even in the threads on all the usual Substacks, that lockdown and masks were an "introverts' dream". And I was like no, this is our nightmare. That's an anti-social dream.

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Yes, I'm the same. I'll do whatever it takes to avoid ads and would never respond. I've always been bloody-minded and don't respond to being told what to do if I think it's stupid or unreasonable.

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Yeah, the biggest shock was how fast people rolled over.

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Good question I have no answer. People who are independent ?

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People with a lifelong habit of questioning expert opinion and authority.

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People who have been abused?

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They’ve lost their blind trust.

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I think it is more "results oriented" over "process oriented"

However I have been itching to find someone with expertise in the field to figure out what sort of people said "hold on" instead of "tell me what to do"

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As a child I always saw Santa, Jesus, and the rest of our customs as B.S. but quickly learned that things go smoother if you play along, so I did, and felt like I was betraying a part of myself by doing so. When I learned about some history with various myths and different gods I could place our myths among them. I felt better once I learned enough to apply the right labels to our assorted "gods" (including global warming now), they are myths for our culture. Labels are important, our language is being raped now, I hope logic can survive when language becomes so fluid as to be meaningless.

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The language is being purposefully debased, the end state is that whatever the State says is true no matter what. "We've always been at war with Eastasia." "War is peace." etc.

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For some reason, I can't like your comment!

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That was pretty much Chomsky's definition of an anarchist, which appealed to me. But he was advocating for shutting the unvaxxed out of society, so proving himself to be more of an idiot than genius again.

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Like shutting the Jews out. Then.....

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I wonder if they did a Myers-Brigg personality breakdown on this what they would find. INTJ here and I never fell for any of this made-up me-too freakout crap.

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intp here. cost me $250 to learn i cant be hypnotized wish i could

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INTJ here as well. Never vaxxed, boosted, or tested. Never got Covid, to my knowledge anyways. Questioned it from the beginning. But really saw through it when they closed outdoor gathering places like beaches and parks (maybe April of 2020?)

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ISTJ here and I never did either. You might be on to something.

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I actually wrote about this a while back! It seems most of us had some sort of experience when we were young that made us distrust authority:

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/why-are-you-like-this?s=w

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There's also a general lack of curiosity. When this whole thing was on its way over in the first few months, I wondered why scientists hadn't made a vaccine for coronaviruses before. So I started reading about that and that lead to more reading about immunology in general. By the time they came out with this vaccine, I had read enough to be deeply skeptical.

It's not that I think it's just "a cold". It wasn't for me. It sucked and took many weeks to fully recover. But just because a supposed alternative exists (in this case the vax), that doesn't mean it's any better (especially in the long run). It may just be kicking the can down the road. Given that off-label drugs and known vitamins, as well as risk-factors were known key factors in mitigating the severity, I decided to go without the vax. I don't regret it (though it was exceptionally unpleasant).

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Once upon a time, around October of 2020, the FDA had a page up on it's website about the side effects of coronavirus vaxxines. Strangely enough, it's gone. It has shown up in a slide presentation by someone in the FDA; it's on the screen for a second. ALL the side effects are there. Bells Palsy. Heart issues. Autoimmune disorders. A long, long list.

The information was there if you wanted to look. It wasn't hard to find. I think people just wanted an easy miracle cure.

BTW.... quercetin/ zinc/ C/ D3 and fever reducers work. We had quercetin in the house when I got sick; we ran out and couldn't get any, so when my husband got sick, he ended up with covid pneumonia. He went to the hospital, was treated with antibody plasma, steroids and more. He was out in 2 and a half days. It was rough on him, but we did our own study, and found that the suggestions put forth by Dr. Zelenko worked.

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They not only wanted a miracle cure, they (we) were told the vax is coming soon. They programmed all of us that the vax was the ONLY solution. The media was relentless, tv, radio, social media…all paid by big Pharma to sell the jab. The BIG LIE was born.

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Yep. If it was about health they would have told us to walk around in the sunshine to lose weight and bolster vitamin D production.

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Yes Quercetin, Vitamin C,D, Zinc this helps. I took Sweet Wormwood for the first 5 days, it's like ivermectin. I'm on day 15 of Covid and wish I knew sooner that Hyssop is a great respiratory aid. I got mine yesterday and it's clearing me out. I am not taking the full dose because it's very potent. I also take N-Acetyl-Cysteine everyday and it's very hard to get. Amazon won't sell it. I am finally feeling better 🙂 I really only felt the worst for the first 2 days that's when I ran fevers. I would have definitely been worse if I wasn't taking the vitamins and herbs and I didn't get the bioweapon shots

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FYI, you can't get NAC on amazon, but you can get it in stores and from regular health food places online. Didn't know about Sweet Wormwood.

My stepson had Delta. We treated him with two doses of literal pony paste. He was over it in 2.5 days.

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i use swanson

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"I also take N-Acetyl-Cysteine everyday and it's very hard to get. Amazon won't sell it."

You can buy it directly from the Life Extension Foundation. I also saw it in the supplements section at the grocery store (Wegman's) just last night.

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Vitacost carries it as well. I just received a bottle yesterday with my supplement shipment. This one is a Dr. Mercola brand. I took the Life Extension brand before and it's good. Vitacost has a 15% off sale on vitamins that I think ends today (6/15/22).

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I actually get mine from Life Extension 👍

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I read that Nigella Sativa or black seed oil works in place of ivermectin. Also read that Cistus Icanus tea has loads of benefits that would be worth looking into.

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Is this the document to which you are referring? The list of potential side effects is on p.16.

https://www.fda.gov/media/143557/download

My 85-yo mother was under immense pressure to get vaccinated in Feb 2021 but it went against every fiber of her being to do so. This is one document I found for her to help her justify her decision. Like you said, the information was there if people wanted to look for it.

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Yes. Page 17. But it was listed on the website, not in a presentation. They were listed as possible side effects, and that was enough for me.

My mom had an autoimmune disorder. It is not an easy thing to deal with, and required medication every day until she died. That was enough to make me wary. Plus... "experimental" and "no animals survived mRNA testing."

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There were so many red flags! I continue to be astonished that people just went ahead and rolled up their sleeves to get injected. I’m not sure I’ll ever understand it.

I’m sorry your mom had to live with an autoimmune disorder; that can’t have been easy for her or for you.

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Agreed

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BOOM! I don’t own a television…haven’t for 20 years. Poison for the mind and soul. Not to mention PURE PROPAGANDA.

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Agree (I clicked the heart, but nothing happened--so here is reply.

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I watched Nick Hudson on James Delingpoles podcast last night, he mentioned this subject. At his PANDA organization they tried to world out what they had in common. Not watching TV was one of them. I have lived a lot of my life in countries where I speak the language poorly, so don't watch too much TV, and NLP and advertising is probably lost on me.

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Interesting. I also suspect there is a level of nonconformity here as well, which might be evidenced by not watching tv. "Stubbornness" might be a factor here as well.

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I would fall into that category. It's difficult to tell with others as pretty much all my immediate circle of friends is going along with the nonsense and refuse to discuss it when I try to bring it up. I hope this is because they realise they have been conned and are ashamed to admit it. But they need to if we are to ensure this never happens again.

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At this point masks are meant as a stylish way of letting us know they are brainwashed and following social media norms. Most I see are 20’s and elders.

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The elders I talk to around here (where masking is a very visible outlier behavior) are legit still terrified of covid and still earnestly believe they work. They're locked in narrative 1.0 behavior from about 1.5 years ago and believe they will basically catch covid instantly and die if they unmask, like it's SCUBA gear.

They're not being political.

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Yes. My 82-year-old aunt was wearing one yesterday when we went to visit my gran in hospital. I had to don one in the hospital, but wore it under my nose (like most of the non-medical staff was) and at one point it was good ol' chinderwear. And off my face by the time I was back in the lobby.

Funny story: when we had to get our visitors' passes, the concierge said (her EXACT words): "we have to ask if you have Covid, even though you could just lie even if you did." 🤣🤣🤣 Glorious. Haven't seen such a display of "zero fucks given" in the wild in a while here in blue Chicagoland.

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Nice to see you, Darling. :)

The concierge anecdote is wonderful and cheered me up.

But the elder fear stuff has a lot of (probably permanent) traction. This was Fathermouth before his vax injury.

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It’s so sad… all of this!

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The really sad part is that it always was this. The situation just illustrated it.

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What do all these young ones think they're doing? Are they saving grandma or something? Well I'm grandma and I say, take those stupid things off. Even the older ones I know have stopped wearing them.

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I think the teens and college ages have embraced it because 1) social acceptance and 2) the purely selfish motive of not having to show their faces. These kids mostly are uncomfortable in social situations where they have to put down their phone. The girls think they have to have movie star makeup done to show their face. If they don’t measure up, better to hide it. We have massive psychological problems to overcome in this age group. I don’t know how to do this en masse. I try to encourage teen girls I know to show their face.

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Ha! Thanks grandma : )

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Masks have evolved from "I am protecting you" to something completely different - they're a badge. Once you understand that they're a badge - nothing more and nothing less - you understand the current mask-wearer.

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Northern Virginia here:

Kids wearing masks, about 50%, all teenagers

Oldsters wearing masks, about 50% too.

Businesses and masked employees, also running about 50%

I STILL to this day see people of all ages, walking outside, even windy, or raining perhaps, wearing masks.

I still see masked drivers.

I do not pay enough attention.

I believe the masked employees of businesses is a "comfort" thing for clients.

There are some people out there that are severely mentally and emotionally damaged.

The criminals that created this horrid scheme should suffer the most, I would wish. Hoping they go to bed each night and struggle to sleep, much less, go about their horrid business during the day.

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The while thing is a new religion with masks being the religious attire to show your commitment. We still have them mandated here in pharmacies and hospitals, the new places of worship, with doctors and scientist being the new priests.

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They are the linchpin. There would be no vaxx mandates or 2nd class citizens if more people would've said NO...and not complied

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The unquestioning compliers drag us all down!

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LIKE X ON MILLION

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While masks are still mandated on the subway and commuter trains in the NYC area, there has been a noticeable shift in compliance levels in the last couple of months. I was surprised to see New Yorkers bend over to such absurdity and rules when historically such measures have been met with the most cynical disobedience. But if I may offer a shred of hope, the people don't seem to be following the crap in mass anymore. Probably wouldn't take much of another manufactured crisis to get them on some other tracks though. Working on an exit strategy.

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My brother was just in NYC and told me masks aren't mandated on buses/subways anymore and that masking behavior was very low except in the very visible ethnic communities that have had the highest compliance all along anyway.

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What is it with the (especially Chinese) ethnic communities? They're still wearing masks outside which is insane and was never needed.

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Prepare for probably soft-racist stereotypes here from my lifetime of living in NY:

Cultural traditions of:

* extremely strict conformity and punishment of independent thought

* very low literacy in subjects outside their profession/job

* if in the country illegally, training in following the most low-profile behavior possible to avoid encounters with the law

* magical thinking about epidemiology and talismanic/ritual health practices (looking at you, TCM, hope Tusk Task Force shoots your next elephant-penis harvester)

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This is what perpetuating looks like. Presumption without a specific action or event. I would argue many that come from from abroad are escaping what you are still trying to tie to their identity. Why go to the trouble to leave otherwise.

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I'm just speaking from experience, but the notion that modern immigration patterns, especially illegal, are rooted in anything like rejection of one's parent culture is laughably naive. The era of flocking to America to share in our values and pluralistic culture is ancient history.

Just say I'm being racist and have done. I already copped to it.

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My niece said “they wear masks all the time in china so it’ll probably be that way now here too”. Hello! Their air quality is atrocious! They wear masks so they don’t breath in filth - not to protect others from their diseases. Most likely why your seeing more of this ethnicity wearing them and who knows? Maybe they were wearing them here pre 2020 and we simply didn’t notice.

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I think you are correct in this. I remember visiting Taipei in the 80s and being struck by the choking degree of air pollution there. Many natives tried to cope by wearing paper masks as defensive effort to protect their lungs.

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I would not isolate just one demographic, as there are others that still embrace the mask outdoors with plenty of fresh air available. Many kids in my area still wear them too. More recently, I have also seen the maskless parents and masked young child (outside).

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The masking behavior being low is probably what made your brother think they are no longer mandated. An even wilder disparity in perception is in regard to the private worker vaccine mandate. Many NYC residents and friends are operating under the assumption that it no longer exists, but it does.

In time for summer vacation they might lift the mask mandate for mass transit,

"As for mass transit and the MTA, which is run jointly by the state and city, Gov. Kathy Hochul said when asked about the matter Thursday that the policy was being reviewed and state officials would like to change it soon. The Democratic governor has in the past held her plans close to the vest until decision time is imminent, but sources familiar with her thinking say they think masks will be made optional soon."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/broadway-ny-state-talk-latest-face-mask-rules-after-nyc-declares-covid-peak-over/3729358/

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I see. Thanks for this. He based his assumption on the fact that he went unmasked for about half a week commuting unchallenged.

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This is largely true in GA as well.

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LOL they weren't even cleaning the subways for two months at the start of the pandemic!

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Impose a mandatory tax on masking, to be paid upon entry into any establishment. Simultaneously, forbid mask mandates.

(Yeah, it's a can of worms a-right but generally governement can only try to solve problems by outlawing, taxing or making it mandatory no matter what 'it' actually is.)

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This is not a bad idea. Particularly when you consider the environmental ramifications of requiring a disposable product that is not very biodegradable. Earlier in the week I watched a young child remove a blue medical mask and throw it to the side of the sidewalk. I have also seen dog feces with a blue medical mask in the poo! If straws were such a crisis for sea turtles, think of all the dogs eating this unnecessary waste! An issue to truly get green about.

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A few questions for everyone out there:

How many people do you know that are jabbed and boosted? How many do you know that have questioned the vaxx and have decided to refrain from more jabbing/boosting?

The vast majority of people my husband and I know are jabbed/boosted. He is the only one in his small office who is not jabbed. My job is related to live entertainment, so EVERYONE is happily jabbed.

I know ONE person who has stopped taking the injections. Two people have talked to him about not getting jabbed anymore, and asked for information. That's all.

On this other side, our adult nephew had a heart issue, had to get jabbed for his job, and died five days after the Pfizer shot. His parents do not accept that the jab had anything to do with it. They are both jabbed and double boosted. His father has shingles that will not go away. I think he's on week 10. You can't tell them it's the jab; right now, they're waiting for it to clear up so he can get the shingles vaxx. These are not stupid people; one of them has a master's degree. They are brainwashed, and I don't think breaking free will be as easy as one might think, even if people start dropping like flies.

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I'm the only one in my large office who didn't get jabbed. I saw, heard and felt resentment towards me. My boss confirmed it to me yesterday. Meanwhile many of them keep getting sick over and over again. I'm not. I think some people are waking up to the fear that they signed their own death warrant and they're scared.

The insurance companies, btw, are NOT paying out, saying that under law, it was a voluntary vaccination (go ahead, look up the EUA conditions). You're presumed to have been fully informed and given your consent when you took the jab. And since it was voluntary, it's lumped in the same class as suicide. No payout. This was affirmed by a court in France a year ago, and the US companies have adopted this logic.

CORRECTION: I had seen an earlier article regarding the french court denying a claim. Someone later challenged this (thank you!) and despite my looking for over a half hour over numerous sites, I could not find a single reputable site that indicated my prior claim. I saw a number of fact check sites (I don't have great faith in them either) indicate this was false as well. I finally found a state insurance site that addressed this particular rumor of death benefits being denied due to vaccines, and they categorically said it was false.

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Please provide evidence about US insurance companies applying this. I have not seen any.

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I wrote a correction, after your statement prompted me to search. I appreciate your challenging me. I had apparently fallen for a published source that was untrustworthy.

Thank you.

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Agreed. I saw one story about it in France and the website didn't look overly reliable, so I am still unsure if it's true.

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I tried to find it with a Google (I know) search of French court listings, but could not see it. Trials in US and Canada are fairly easy to find if you know the jurisdiction and court venue.

As for reading the 900 pages of affidavits and arguments...

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You're right, I have heard of them saying that.

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I'm happy to say that most of my close friends have not taken the shots and see the landscape clearly. Having said that, I've lost a few former 'close' friends over my medical decision while they have taken more shots than a target on a practice range. And just as you say, a lot of the vaxxed simply refuse to connect the dots regarding new health problems post vaxx. Perhaps deep in their minds they wonder, but they still don't admit.

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We are unjabbed but most we know are jabbed. Most have also had COVID recently. Last night I was in an absurd conversation regarding an upcoming trip and "what if COVID." They were quizzing the guy whose jabbed family, over an extended period, had COVID (one member of family at a time) about Q requirements, that they would apply to unjabbed if the big C happens. I just looked at them and said, right because the jabbed don't get COVID. One of them looked at me, straight face, but "yes, they do. " I responded back (they all know I am unjabbed), "yes, I know and understand but yet you still consult and follow the non sensical CDC guidelines." And they moved on to masking. These are intelligent people. I like them. But it gets harder and harder to participate I this world where the disconnect between what my eyes see and what my ears hear is so great. The pain of watching so many people who do not see it. On thr other hand, great lessons to my kids about always reading the fine print! The devil is in the details.

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The other day, Mathias Desmet, the Mass Formation Psychosis guy said the only way to get these people out of their... IDK, brainwashed state is to talk about facts. Don't argue, don't try to convince, just state facts.

There is this thing called Terror Management Theory; it basically says that people will go off the deep end of they are constantly reminded they can die.

Everyone but the a select few is brainwashed. Literally.

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I'm not jabbed and have two friends who aren't. One friend her hubby and 2 children unjabbed also. They had mild covid and were fine. My other friend her hubby had it for work but no boosters, her son didn't get jabbed. One elderly friend aged 90 died 10 days after the jab. Another friend's son 50 and in poor health has had 4 jabs and I swear he's been worse each time, after the 4th he had a stroke. Many other friends jabbed abd boosted have been very ill with covid, some multiple times and several have had shingles. They have obviously harmed their immune systems. I have stayed well throughout even though I'm old and have taken no precautions and tried to live normally.

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How extremely sad. People can’t admit they could be wrong!

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Not sure how you can live with MSNBC on in your home. My mother and aunt live together and they watch every show, every day. I have been bombarding them with data and articles and yet they still ignore. They reply “interesting” but still watch the fake news.

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I can't stand it. For the moment I'm living with my elderly parents (moving in THREE weeks!!!). My folks watch MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the MSM. Dad even watch the 1/6 Kangaroo Court Spectacular. Its awful and they've ingested the Kool-aid. I did get my mother to read Kennedy's Fauci book and now she's sworn off any further boosters, but hasn't made the logical jump that the rest of the "news" she watches is all propaganda too.

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Old habits die hard. Have to educate them on the motives (lies) told by ALL media to satisfy their audiences. Explain who owns the media and their motivations. Some, like my mom, may never get it. Others, will eventually understand the fraud that is occurring daily. Good luck 👍🏻

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I've tried. Many a time. My father calls me a conspiracy theorist and a cynic (meant that as an insult though I took it as a compliment) every time I point things like that out. I doubt my father will ever get it.

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Baby steps! Well done for protecting your mum from the harm of those boosters which I've been told are the same as the first jabs and not properly adapted boosters.

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Thanks! I wasn't able to get her to swear off more jabs until after she had her first booster, along with a flu shot and a shingles vax. Ugh.

I heard the same thing. The boosters are the same as jab 1 and 2.

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I refuse to let my disabled aged mother watch any news when I'm around. I turn to EWTN Catholic TV. The daily Mass and Rosary do wonders for your peace of mind.

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I believe it. I'm working in the family den now and my mother (78 and in still pretty decent health fortunately) is in the next room watching the latest episode of the kangaroo court. I just cranked up the tunes to drown it out.

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

So optimistic!

I think they'll work to cover corruption and malfeasance with crisis. While pushing the big red Fed recession button that implodes the stock market, they'll continue to sabotage energy and food production. Basically, they want to work their way up the populace's hierarchy of needs and deprive them of things more essential. Who is going to worry about a rise in cancer or heart attacks when they can't get food or fill their tank or they get laid off as zombie corporations dump employees to service their now unaffordable debts.

The cherry on the top of distractions might be a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. That would be orders of magnitude more signal jamming news than Ukraine. They could turn it into weeks of confrontation-- maybe even with limited direct engagements. Havoc in the semiconductor market and trade with China grinds to a halt. Shortages of everything.

No one will care about vaccines anymore if there are imminent crises on every side.

That is my prediction and I hope I am wrong.

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Oh, and the contrived paper shortage that will extend through the 2022 and 2024 elections that's now being floated as a reason to not have paper ballots.

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Jun 16, 2022·edited Jun 16, 2022

I dont like it but here's my prediction:

Market crash will precipitate exchanges of our $ to eUSD...for our own good,of course. You'll be granted an Exchange rate according to your ESG rating. Most of us will lose $ ,while those " deserving equity" will gain. We'll be allowed access to what's left of our electronicUSDollars if we behave.

The food riots coming after will by themselves be a reason to implement martial law. Who says they have to allow you to vote,Comrade?

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Boy, that's pretty dismal, but I can see that happening. Except wouldn't a decrease in percentage (or being kept from accessing my own money) be considered a "takings"?

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Believe me -I'm usually an optimist. Dismal is the feeling I get in my stomach when I think of my 25 yr old son,and his life going fwd.

I'm not sure? I'm unfamiliar by the term " takings". Would you provide clarity?

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Although it's more famous for the 'don't testify against yourself' part, the Fifth Amendment bans government from taking of your property without compensation. (Not that I think government cares at this point)

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No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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Thank you. I believe they've already proven they've no respect for this particular Amendment, as witnessed by the treatment of the Jan 6 defendants.

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Or, they can take it and you know, understaffed, big bureaucracy, phone trees from hell, hold music from hell, no maoey to pay a company to autodial for you in hopes that you actually get thru, then don't get hung up on, no, we haven't gotten to your claim yet, you're like, 1,000,000th in line, but keep tryin'!

Yeah, they don't care. If the 2nd amendment isn't absolute, that pretty much tells us what they think of the others....

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Hate to agree but I do. It's nice to think about justice and all, but we have let TPTB bury so many past wrongs by flooding the zone...it's a successful plan for them. Sure, we can press, as Gato advises, but come on. They think we are dumb and will forget. Sure, claiming fraud might let pols off the hook, but the question I have is WHAT HOOK? We rarely have one for them. And who is going to sue when they can't even afford the phonecall to a lawyer bc they spent the phone money on gas? Even here, in the so-called resistance substacks, there's plenty of noise with everyone opining on whatever the "drama of the week" is (trans, guns, joe rogan, elon musk, fill in blank: __________). Many columns are just "reacts" and not plans for a big fucking hook.

I hope you are wrong too.

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Trump takes the fall in this scenario.. Perfect scape goat and he too is accountable for warping the speed..

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precisely.

why did trump start this terrible dangerous program and let them defraud us!?!

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Another reason I can't support Trump.

For what it's worth, I hear he's a germaphobe. He could have been manipulated like everyone else.

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my issue with trump is that he's a coward.

he could have stood, led, and changed the US and the world.

he knew brix and fauci were wrong and lockdowns would be devastating. but he surrendered to them and set this ball in motion.

you never know what challenges a leader will face. this is why adaptability, intelligence, honor, and courage matter so much.

i fear he's 0 for 4 on those. he did good bluster, but when the going got scary, he panicked and froze. of course, hillary would have been -2 for 4, and biden is clearly a disaster so maybe it's time we started asking the really important question: "why can't the US produce a half decent candidate for its highest office?"

can we really keep going on concentrating so much power in the hands of such fools and incompetents?

and if we cannot get good candidates, then we need to nerf the presidency and at least stop giving them so much power.

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Before you judge Trump too harshly, please read Scot Atlas' book, "A Plague Upon Our House...". You can read it , depending upon how fast you read, in an afternoon or a weekend.

It puts a LOT of things into perspective visa vi Birx, Fauci, Redfield, and even Pence.

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I have. I'd still vote for Trump, without a pause, over these ghouls who are "running" the country. That includes the vast majority of Republicans

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I agree completely. Trump loves America before all else. Few others do. When you think about the kind of personality one almost always has in order to want to be a politician, well, it kind of self selects for exactly the wrong sort of person you want running anything, much less the US government.

Heavy D (DeSantis) is probably the only other R I would consider. N Haley, Pence, Rubio, et. al. are all in it for the wrong reasons. Some are well meaning, sort of, but most are snakes waiting for their time at the trough.

Back to the type of person who want to be a pol. Think about it. These people, except for Rand Paul, actually think they know best how you should live. And they like doing it!!!

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He should have listened to Atlas over the other Frauds. It is (hoping) DeSantis for me.

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Stop making excuses for Trump. This all lands at his feet. He was POTUS.

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Hindsight is always 20/20.

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I couldn't agree more. I supported Trump. But I think it is fair to say, Trump gave this man-made catastrophe oxygen by allowing the extension of the 15 days to slow the spread for another 30 days. I'll admit he was in a trickbox. That said, a leader is supposed to recognize a trickbox, accept it, provide a solution and then make his case as to why the long term "COST" of this nonsense should be rejected.

He did not do that. I'm very disappointed that he did not rally the country around the only true solution there was: Let healthy Americans protect the vulnerable by being brave and "filtering" c19; that it was patriotic to take this head-on rather then kicking the can down the road.

To make his case that there was a "price" to be paid no matter what. But the price to hide from it would be orders of magnitude higher. To make this point he would also have had to tell it like it is; that it is also patriotic for the vulnerable to stay at home until the healthy have done their job protecting the vulnerable by taking on the risk of getting C19.

That's what a leader does; make the tough decisions when you don't have all the information, when there are no "good" options and then communicate to the public the way forward. In other words, make an appeal to Americans that, it was in ultimately in every individuals and the countries interests to rallying around mitigating the unavoidable "pain" would also require accepting the relatively low risk. To do otherwise would be cowardly and result in even more deaths of the vulnerable.

This would have created peer pressure to be brave and for each individual to do their part in a common goal. Sort of like women in the World Wars giving white feathers to cowardly men. The risk to the healthy was always negligible and he should have made that clear - we knew from the beginning that to be true.

His lack of foresight led to the opposite type of peer pressure, which was one key feature in protracting this nightmare. And to recognize his reelection was at more risk if he allowed the country to be paralyzed by fear. By failing to understand this he allowed the narrative to grow roots. This means, he too may have pay a price politically.

He chose the "easy" way out by hoping this would self resolve or that the "vaccine" would magically end the "pandemic". A leader understands that being indecisive compounds the problem, confuses followers and always leads to poor outcomes. By following this strategy he allowed cowardness to become a virtue. He did not recognize that that was the "real" trickbox he (and the country) was in.

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Please remember, not only was Trump dealing with a dishonest media that was working behind the scenes with Birx and the Fauch, he also had traitors and cowards within his own inner circle actively working against him and his interests.

The WH is a big operation that requires a LOT of people near the top in order to function. If he fired everyone who was in on this he would have had a hard time opening the doors every morning.

That said, his biggest downfall was personnel. He trusted the wrong folks, but the talent pool from which he had to choose was full of sharks and hacks. Hard to find good men in D.C.

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Why can't I like some of these comments? I fully agree with this. He's not a medical professional, and he put his trust in such authority figures, not knowing initially that it was the wrong choice. When you read Dr. Scott Atlas' book, you realize that the inner staff and Fauci/Birx isolated the true experts and made them unable to contribute to stopping what has been a massive conspiracy to take down the president. Dr. Paul Alexander said the same thing, and quit. Paul also highlighted that all of the situations were being scripted and he was being told how to respond.

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I agree, but he was still POTUS. The buck...

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Correct. Even I knew the moment they said “warp speed” it was an extremely risky roll of the dice with god knows what deleterious consequences. Really bad move..

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Agree 100%.

If you aspire to be great you have to be willing to die when you take a stand.

But “bone spurs” are a hell of a drug.

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if you made up the "bone spurs" comment, well, then you are a genius.

If you didn't you're still very smart, because it's true and funny!

Nice!

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Sadly I can’t disagree.

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He would have been excoriated and likely driven from office if he’d gone against the bureaucratic grain. No president in my lifetime would have had the cojones to do that.

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Jim - we sent him to office to throw over the checker board. He didn't do that because he let too many Uniparty unicorns surround him.

No other president faced what he did with this scamdemic. He should've recognized it for what it was. He lost a lot of his own voters from 16' because he allowed cowardliness to become a virtue - he "allowed" them to accept being surrounded in a spirit of fear.

The main reason he lost in 20' was because of the "special" rules that allowed folks to vote from home, etc. And of course all the cheating...

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I’m old and small-r republican and I usually think in terms of What Would Reagan Do? I honestly don’t think even the great RR would have fended off the public health swamp.

Trump showed bad judgment on some things but to me his biggest weakness wasn’t so much personal but that he was a neophyte and didn’t have a proper political organization around him when he first took office. In contrast , Reagan, who had served two terms as California governor, had a tightly knit and time-tested organization, and just picked the whole thing up and transplanted it to DC.

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Trump is lazy, he could never be a tyrant, he doesn't have the work ethic.

We're on the wrong track to go for less Fed control, all I see is the Feds trying to take more and more control. Nothing screams Central Planning like a CDC Executive Order.

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Of all the things one could attribute to DJT, "lazy" is the least accurate. This is a moronic statement. You must have TDS.

TDS has taken a lot of minds. Looks like it got yours.

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I would agree with that. He was a workhouse. But sometimes, he wasted energy on non-productive shit.

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Haha, one thing I don't have is TDS. I also think he is a narcissistic coward. Doesn't mean he didn't do some great things for this country, but when we really needed him, he let us down.

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Well and the Feds knocking at your door because of "wrongthink".

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Absolutely. Trump failed completely, as did all other leaders around the world.

I am not surprised. The kind of people that reach the top political positions are not the kind of people that we would like to be in charge. This is an inescapable fact that we usually forget, and it is the reason why I am so skeptical of top-down solutions.

At the end, the problem is that we have surrendered our individual liberty on behalf of people and institutions that are guaranteed to cause us harms as the retribution of our stupidity.

So, I am sorry, but I cannot say anything positive about Trump.

Regarding DeSantis, he is already showing that he is playing a different covid card, but he is doing it for the wrong reasons. So, sorry again but I am not a big fan of DeSantis either.

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Blustering bullies, at heart, are all cowards. His tough talk masked his pusillanimity.

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Bravo

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If the leader of the free world is that manipulatable he is worthless. And I am no Brandon fan trust me. The potential ramifications of doing this were massive and he should have been more careful. Look what has been unleashed..

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This exactly. Just because Trump is a flawed coward and I readily admit that doesn’t mean I like #FJB. Both terrible options and to me Operation Warp Speed should make Trump unelectable

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Agree. We are in a tough bind if someone decent doesn’t emerge. Things actually can get worse as hard as that is to imagine…

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The Trump factor why is another damning detail and I'm not a defender or supporter, but I gotta wonder if the guy had any shot of taking a different route without ending up like JFK.

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He's a narcissist.

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I think Trump saw himself saving the day, against all odds, akin to his rescuing the Wohlman skating rink in Central Park years ago. The man likes challenges.

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I don't think he really had a choice, and maybe he was not threatened directly I could see his kids coming into play. Just conjecture though.

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My conjecture too.

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Yes. That is how it is in that arena. That is why everybody stays in line unless they are prepared for that too. You have to be crazy strong to play. I’d say That last man who ran Libya was the type who could do it.

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I thought that was what the Dems were going to do after Biden came in, but then Brandon doubled down and started mandating everything. Now, the Dems own it.

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Listen Cat, i love the optimism, but Moderna vax was banned in a buch of European countries for people under 30. The FDA just approved the same stuff 21-0. These shots are going in to as many arms as possible and nobody will stop them. People are dying and being disabled left and right yet every other commercial is a bunch of doctors pushing this stuff on our kids. This will never come out and become common knowledge as long as the left owns the media. I pray you are right—but you arent. Sorry.

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It may take a while. But this is way, way, way too big to hide. People will notice when those around them start dying in large numbers.

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Sadly, this is the correct take. They are hard at work making sure no one stays unvaxxed. Mexico just caved on children after holding out this long. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/covid-vaccination-for-children-5-11/?utm_source=jeeng&utm_medium=webpush

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BREAKING: Fifth largest life insurance company in the US paid out 163% more for deaths of working people ages 18-64 in 2021 - Total claims/benefits up $6 BILLION

https://crossroadsreport.substack.com/p/breaking-fifth-largest-life-insurance?s=r

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I think the insurance industry is going to be the biggest advocate for us in uncovering fraud on the part of pfizer, so they can avoid these payouts. They won't want to pay. And right now, there's a HUGE effort to disassociate the vaccine with any deaths.

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Only if it's not owned by the bank cartel. And I doubt they aren't deeply involved in that industry as well.

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How do people not get this. Evidence everywhere. Goodness.

Thx for that link

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Wow! That can't be covered up and ignored surely?

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Thanks for this link.

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Here's a link to the story about OneAmerica from January, 2022:

Indiana Life insurance CEO

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid

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Just like the sub-prime crisis, Enron Accounting Scandal, the S & L scandal, and every other catastrophic failure of government incompetence and corporate corruption, this too will be quietly swept under the rug, bonuses paid out, careers established, reputations white washed and the hapless public will be left wondering how that whole Covid thing ever played out. But, hey, I'm a cynic.

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I just love your Substack. Information and the wonderful photos of cats. I raise my glass to you and your predictions- I want them to be true and forthcoming and I am Unvaxed. But my children bought the koolaid. Hopefully an antidote will be found.

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Many heads need to roll. Many hangings need to happen. Many jail cells need to be filled. Many lawsuits and payouts need to happen. And that’s just for starters.

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The fox will never let the chickens hold him accountable...

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Nothing will happen,…they’ll blame it on Covid and the fools will believe them. Operation Obpfuscate

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Or they'll blame it on SADS ( Sudden Adult Syndrome).

If the CDC approves covid shots for babies as young as 6 months old, I'm sure we'll see an increase in SIDS.

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I see lots of distractions, false flags food and energy crises and and who knows what to keep people in fear and survival mode and unable to focus on this fraud. It all falls apart. Then we rebuild and we do not include them in our plans.

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Remember when Congress finally flipped on Fauci during the AIDS crisis? They dragged him in and he had to back off his stonewalling of non-Fauci-benefitting treatments. So he made some concessions and laid low for a while before returning to the fold (See B Kennedy's book for a full account). This time let's hope he isn't able to lay low and resurface. It will depend on what he "has" on who. In any case, let the sub-bus-throwing begin!

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How do these Teflon-coated survivors do it? They give disastrous advice yet stay in post or are consulted decade after decade. In the UK we have Prof Neil Ferguson who has given disastrous guidance since 1980s with his flawed computer models

He's cost taxpayers £billions and caused havoc and loss among farmers with his wrong advice on foot and mouth. Why do successive governments keep using them? It baffles and angers me.

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Teflon-coated* fantastic!

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Good thing Congress was effective in their inquiry and removed such a reckless figure from such a lucrative and powerful non-elected office.

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Oh, to have leaders like those in the Church commission that outed FBI and CIA operations within the government, and took Fauci to the cleaners.

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Agree with Lisa: They will blame Trump for applying illegal pressure to the regulators. Likely also to see lurid allegations of conspiracy between Trump and pharma executives.

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