Thing is (and it is not surprising), these leftie 'no meat' idiots do not realize when they complain about raising cattle using too many resources, is that livestock are the only practical way to use the majority of available land for agriculture. The land is too poor, and the water supply too limited, for conventional agriculture. Livestock -- especially goats and sheep, though cattle too -- can make use of marginal land that otherwise would lie fallow. Stocking rates are low, but the land produces what it can.
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There are a few things that might react with methane, potassium permanganate for example. That does not make it a good idea, but just saying, someone somewhere will probably be able to invent a way to make something like this work.
Yeah, well, they can try it. Cattle aren't as stupid as some people think. They will find a way to get rid of that mask, and it won't take long. There's also researchers looking at ways to make them belch and fart less, basically via animal husbandry -- selective breeding. The 'genetically modified organisms' as they existed, before researchers learned how to gene splice.
Which reminds of the old saying, 'best be careful what you ask for.'
Yes, well, WE know that... but THEY are convinced... so they try to select for 'environmentally helpful' animals. Is is all BS of course, as is the argument that 'climate change' is caused by humans. Here's a start; you may already know but there are others here who want to learn:
We're in Wokeville, CA. My sig oth has a phenomenal memory - he'll cite temps from the 1970s, the 1930's, etc., talk about Maunder Minimums, most people scream and run away from us. We don't go to a lot of parties. Hopefully it will be different when we get to Texas.
Oh, trust me...we know. I had to go to a wedding outside of Austin, flew in to the city. The "I love Beto" shirts brought on an acute bout of nausea. No, we're headed to the back of beyond.
I hear ya. On a trip from Alaska to Florida, we were supposed to stay in Austin for 3 days. After a walk down тАЬMain StreetтАЭ, lunch, and a quick stop to look at cowboy boots, 24 hours and we were gone. Never going back. Crazy crazy crazy libs on every cornerтАж..
Thank you kindly, ma'am! We'll have our Trump decals prominently displayed on our vehicles. I think there are many of us conservatives fleeing from the misery of life in a blue state.
You know, it was the whole Global Warming hoax that first sent me down the rabbit hole 15 years ago, a domino effect - made me swallow that red pill and wake (as opposed to woke) my stupid liberal as* TF up and become a thinking person -i.e. a conservative. I walked away from my Dem family and have never looked back. Covid was just a dress rehearsal for the climate change fascism that is coming.
It will likely be something cruel - just as hens' beaks are burned off in factory farms to keep them from pecking one another to death in their distress. And pigs' tails are cut off to prevent their fellow prisoners from biting them, for the same reason.
It helps to realise that so-called тАШenvironmentalistsтАЩ have pre-school minds, so they believe if we used the grain to feed Humans instead of animals, then we could eliminate animals. Leaving aside - as stated above - most animal food is grass, weeds and scrub from land not suitable for arable farming, meat is mass for mass much more nutritious than plant matter, and contains all essential amino-acids for Human tissue growth. To maintain the same nutritional level requires a large range and/or quantity of plant matter. This is why plant eating animals have specially adapted digestive tracts, and spend most of the 24 hours, eating.
It is why тАШhealth foodтАЩ shops have shelves stocked with jars and boxes of vitamin and mineral supplements.
Organic farming requires more land, more water and other resources to produce an equivalent amount of crop-output compared to industrial farming techniques.
Our ancestors had organic farming, with little meat in their diet. There is a reason why they changed and a reason why in poor Countries, as people get wealthier, meat is a priority in their involuntary vegan, organic diet.
Only an ignoramus can believe that if animals consume plant matter and produce methane, if Humans ingest it they wonтАЩt.
I agree with most of what you say, except that in some people groups, depending on geography, arable land is at a minimum, but it will sustain herds and flocks of (edible) livestock. And a significant portion of human history occurred before farming of grains began, while hunting was common.
That is so. In large parts of France for example, the terrain - thin top soil, rock and clay just below the surface - is unsuitable for growing crops. That leaves animals, particularly sheep, goats and poultry, some fruits, and vines which grow where other crops wonтАЩt. Hence lots of goat and sheep cheese and wines and very little dairy. (Northern France dairy, pigs, fruit, veg and cereals.) Such arable land there is, usually in valley bottoms, is used largely for growing grains to feed poultry, and produce cooking oils.
Too many people with strong opinions about farming have never seen a farm, never gone hungry, they live in towns/cities with an eco-propaganda pamphlet knowledge of food production. Ignorance + stupid + liar = Environmentalist.
I've been saying for years (as I have some liberal friends) , "God bless the Liberals. They mean well but haven't a clue how things work in the real world..."
yup, them thar vegans are nutso....just because it takes 'only' 2k gal of h20 to produce One lb of meat & that there are some [this ret.mechanic happily included] who have been cured of multiple diseases just by changing the'fuel' they scarff down& thereby driving down big pHarma's revenues...its just plain un-amerikan,eh?
Sadly, most of the people I know aren't even "awake." They are asleep, period. Last night, we had dinner with some friends who I know are clueless and I asked them if they were stocking up on food and told them what Brandon had said weeks ago. When I used the word "prepping" they looked at me like, "whaaat?!" The response was that their freezer was full of meat. I said, "No, staples like pasta, rice, canned goods." The subject of generators came up bc they have one that could run the whole house and then, "if everyone's running them, getting gas will be a problem." But it seemed like a conversation about the hypothetical and they likely woke up this morning to business as usual.
It's not too late to plant a garden - use heirloom seeds and plant all the vegetables you can. Buy canned or dried beans / peas, rice, canned tuna, salmon, chicken. You can still buy wheat and grind your own flour at home for home made bread. The problem is, this is intentional and those in high places want this to happen, I think. There are many different causes. I read six months ago that China had decided not to sell any fertilizer to the US, and not to sell us the ingredients to make fertilizer. I also read that US factories that produce fertilizer had been shut down for various reasons, and that there had been sabotage of train shipments of fertilizer / fertilizer ingredients and storage facilities. In the city where I live, a large warehouse that stored fertilizer caught fire - perhaps arson? I don't know. Russia also is an exporter of fertilizer, but obviously won't be selling to us, if they are selling to anyone at all. With a shortage of fertilizer, that is one factor that is going to contribute to smaller harvests than usual in the current growing season, and the soonest things could get back on track is fall of 2023 or some predict perhaps well into 2024. Besides that, I understand that Russia and Ukraine normally produce a substantial percentage of the world's wheat, but with the war on, I'm sure none of the Ukrainian men are doing any farming this year, and the women and kids are refugees, so globally, wheat will be more scarce. Meanwhile, Union Pacific railway has said they are unable to honor their contracts to transport wheat, so that supply chain is broken. Tucker Carlson and others have reported on fires and explosions at a number of food processing facilities - El Gato has said that he doesn't believe this is any more than might be "usual" though some disagree. I have been seeing for about the past 9 months one thing after another that makes me wonder if we are heading to a global food shortage f a serious nature - any one little thing by itself may be nothing, but I keep seeing a variety of things that make me think it would be prudent to plan ahead for oneself and one's family. President Biden has said there will be a food shortage and it's going to be real - I know he has dementia but the people who control him probably told him that, and perhaps they know more about it than we do. And you grow your own vegetables, you do not have to worry about someone programming them to include vaccines you may not want. Not just food, but while you are thinking about, store some water as well. I think it is getting too late to do much to mitigate this much by government action - if farmers don't have their fertilizer by now - I say IF because I don't know who has how much fertizlier - but if they don't have it by now, it's too late now, it is time to be planting, or they should have already planted. If yields are smaller due to lack of fertilizer, we'll find that out by fall. But, I think we're likely to see increasing food shortages through the summer perhaps because of supply chain issues and/or perhaps sabotage. IF this shortage becames the problem that many think it will, I think it is because there are people in high places (whether here or other countries, or both) who wanted it that way. I don't think anyone is going to stop it, and we need to take steps to take care of ourselves. Those who have access and are able to hunt or fish will do better.
I agree with all that you say. Yes, this is intentional, that's a tough one for people to wrap their heads around - but wasn't covid the same? And it's time for people to let go of their prejudice about "those crazy survivalist-types" and start recognizing that such people have wisdom and skills we can learn from. There are many, many prepper blogs and videos online, as well as books. Find the ones that you like and learn from them. I live a largely DIY life these days, after giving up my badass life as an outlaw cannabis grower of twenty years' standing, which definitely prepared me for these times. I bake my own bread, make my own soap and laundry detergent (works out to $.03 per load and I can add what essential oils I like. Takes all of an hour to make a one gallon batch). I realize that not everyone can do this. But I've done the corporate thing, left it for "Green Acres". I like this better. P.S. for a peek at what life might be like post-TEOTWAWKI ("The end of the world as we know it"), here's a work of fiction some might find interesting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Made_by_Hand
Agree there is a lot that can be learned from others, including blogs and you-tube videos about what foods to store and how to store them. I think people will need to know a lot about taking care of themselves to survive - can learn a lot from others, and the time to start is now. I am still on a learning curve and have only less than a year ago started to appreciate what we are probably heading into. I usually don't say much about these things as many people do think it is crazy, but more and more I see things in the news, and it is becoming more normal to realize where we are heading. It doesn't hurt to be prepared - we are already eating fresh foods from our garden (we live in the south and planted some veggies early in the spring). We tried out our wheat grinder and had some pretty decent bread recently. If the worst does not happen and I was just crazy, we still have food we can eat, and no harm done.
Exactly. And you're not at all crazy, you're on the right path. "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst." My grandparents and parents went through the Depression, and taught me a lot about being prepared. My mother's people had a cellar full of food they had grown and put by, including a wall full of my grandfather's amazing homemade root beer. I have my grandmother's last Presto pressure cooker, it's probably in its 50th year and going strong. I love to can and preserve, and that helps. Also have a big freezer and a great food dehydrator so we have lovely dried fruits and berries, tomatoes...a smoker is the next thing. And today we got our new water purifier, it literally turns green bacteria-laden pond scum into sparkling clear water. We just drank wayyy too much homemade mead for May Day, so simple to make, with honey and lemon and ginger. I am a self-taught herbalist going on 50 years, and we can make or forage most remedies we need. Sickness invariably follows in the wake of famine (the Spanish Flu has been traced to a famine in India in the latter part of the 19th century) so people need to understand that, as well, and be prepared. Give up your material lifestyle of cell phones and Starbucks and meds and instant gratification and you'll do better in what's coming - and maybe even discover a level of tranquility, happiness and joy in living you never thought possible. All without a tour to Bali.
I have watched videos from many sources and don't follow just one channel, but if you search you tube for "Forever Foods" or "Foods that Keep Forever," you will find a number of videos that will give you ideas for things that naturally keep well mostly without special preparation, and some are things you would not think of that you may need - salt, cornstarch, instant coffee, white rice - things that would actually keep for decades without degrading, and it's useful to look at some of these videos to get ideas. One thing I learned is that even though we think of brown rice as being healhier, because of natural oils it can go rancid and won't keep as long, so if you want to buy a huge amount of rice to store indefinitely, get white rice, and it does best if stored in glass jars. But you will see videos such as "15 Forever Foods," or "20 foods everyone should have" etc. and they are helpful. Btw, we rice, doing some further checking, I found that Basmati white rice has 4 grams of protein per serving which is as much as brown rice. I was thinking of all the ways to get protein if meat is not in the stores, but then found a video that remnded me not to overlook fat which is an important energy source for us, and also needed in order for us to utlize some vitmains that are "fat soluble."
This link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43rO3hXiX0 goes to one of the "Forever Food" type of videos, and the suggestions are good except he may be a bit off on two points 1) he said if you are doing long term prepping, get regular salt instead of "iodized salt," but here is the thing - salt with no iodine apparently keeps longer, BUT to prevent thyroid problems, everyone needs a little iodine which most people get from table salt that contains iodine, PLUS, I'm thinking, I'm not worried about keeping food for the next 40 years, I'm worried primarily about just getting through the next couple years, so I would want to have iodized salt. 2) In the video, he also mentions real maple syrup will keep pretty much forever but he recommends against artificial maple syrup, and then someone in a comment said, the fake maple syrup will also keep long term, and I would think so, but I don't know for 100% sure. Again, in any case, I'm not thinking about something that will happen 10 years from now, I'm thinking about a relatively immanent food shortage, and having food for now and perhaps to have things to list into 2024. Many foods we buy may have a shelf life into 2023, but fewer would last till 2024, except that some foods naturally store long term where you don't have to be thinking about special prep or worrying about expiration date.
As far as one good channel, I would recommend RoseRed Homesteading I will post links to 2 of her videos and if you go to one you can subscribe if you choose. In this one, she is explaining good storage methods for dry foods like flour, wheat, oats, dry beans etc. basically thinking about how to safely keep bugs out. She says living in a desert area, she has only ever had a problem with bugs in her food once but she shows you that you can put your dry foods (rice, beans, lentils, wheat etc.) into Mylar bags with an oxygen absorber, and the bugs will not be able to live without oxygen, that video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct18THw4w-M and then she had another one to explain why it's not really safe to do what some call "dry canning" to store your dry foods - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OZ09VJk7o
RedRose Homesteading you tube channel has a presenter who has a PhD in a scientific field, who has done a lot of do-it-yourself homesteading kinds of things for decades, lots of experience, and explains things in accurately and in an understandable and interesting way, not too academic but very practical by someone who knows what she is talking about. There are numerous videos on you tube about something called dry canning which is very complicated and time consuming but not actually safe or useful - people put their beans and rice etc. into canning jars, put them in the oven to heat, apparently to kill any possible insect eggs or bacterial spores - but she says, this is not really a good method and may hurt rather than help food quality.
I do know a lady who has milled her own flour in her own kitchen and baked her own bread for decades, and I asked her some questions when I decided to start doing this myself - she cautioned me that if I get wheat that is just packaged in a plastic bag, to put in my freezer for three days to kill any possible insect larvae, and the RedRose lady also mentioned about 3 days in the freezer though that is NOT necessary if the food is packaged in Mylar with an oxygen absorber, and you can buy wheat that way, if you want wheat, some of the farms that sell wheat on Amazon will ship them sealed in Mylar and in a plastic bucket with screw on lid. The bugs can't live without oxygen, so that will store without having to do anything else and when I considered the cost of me buying the mylar, the oxygen absorbers, the buckets, it seemed fine to me to just buy it already packaged that way.
Oh, and an article on long term foods that will keep pretty much forever -
The thing to do is just search a bit and start reading / start watching, and ask questions. I asked a few questions of a lady I bought some wheat from. You can read reviews of some of the companies that sell various products on Amazon, and I have emailed several companies, actually about information I needed - you can buy a lot of foods in bulk through Amazon. Some of the survival foods are overpriced, like - well, look at MyPatriotSupply or 4Patriots, and some of their things may be "worth it" and others not - you can buy wheat or rice in bulk from Amazon and comparison shop, figuring out how much does this cost in the grocery store, and how much per ounce online. Problem is, food does keep going up, prices keep going higher and higher, but for the most part, you don't actually need tons of prepackaged meals that will last for 30 years, you need food for winter of 2022-23 and maybe the year after that - one can buy some of the special survival foods, but I'm thinking more about what normal things can I grown from heirloom seeds in my own garden, and what normal foods can I get that will stay good or store safely to stay ahead of current and upcoming shortages. You can do a lot with "normal" foods without buying the expesnive survival foods, though some items may be worthwhile.
And then keep in mind water - for example, the Berkey Water Filter would help you to purfiy water from a rain barrel or possibly sketchy sources if necessary as well as for just every day filtering out pollutants from tap water -
Maybe that would get you started a bit. You have to just do some digging, and I suppose there are also helpful books on Amazon but I've been learning online and then asking questions where I can as needed.
Wow, thank you for your thoughtful message. That was serious dedication to type that out! I will take this all into consideration. The only thing I believe is at some point I have to trust in God. For large families, how can they prepare for months of food shortages and also the looting and thuggery that will likely abound scare me too.
Excellent post, thank you! What a coincidence, our handsome new Berkey just arrived today. After much research, we think they are the best - their filtration system can even remove food coloring from water!! The Sig Oth has it already mounted up on the wall in our RV, which is our Bug-Out "Location", Aka "Plan B", Plan A being sit tight. I have myself, a woman now in her mid-60s, picked up a shovel and fought no less than five wildfires that threatened my home in the past 29 years here, so being ready to bug out is second nature. We use commercial Seal-a-meal packaging, then into 5 gallon buckets for certain things, also, always throw a handful of bay leaves in flours and cereals, keeps the bugs out and as a bonus you always have a stash of bay leaves. Here's one of many, many lists online about what to stockpile. https://tuppennysfireplace.com/best-foods-to-stockpile/ There are also many posts about how much you need per person in your family. Remember that careful stockpiling today prevents panic buying and hoarding tomorrow. Also "one equals none, and two equals one" is a prepper maxim. If you have one of something, use it and you have none, and if you have two...you get the point. And of course you can rotate your stores but REPLACE them, ASAP. The moment you crack those stores open the clock is ticking towards running out of food. One last thought - don't stash food you don't like, because you think you "should". I ignore the advice to stock up on Spam and Treet. I was raised on the former and had my fill of it, and cannot stand the latter. Prefer good homemade deer jerky and sardines and they're better for you anyway. Remember things like honey (sure to be in short supply) and also spices, so you can eat well and maintain your health and wellbeing with delicious food.
I like Bjorn Andreas Bull Hansen, who dropped out to live in a cabin in the woods in Norway. He has a lot of wisdom about modern life, as well as teaching good skills. And I am, as I said, not a Christian, but I love Viking Preparedness with Pastor Joe Fox, former Green Beret and Special Forces Officer, now living with his extraordinary wife Sister Kate (who has her own channel) in their community at Shofar Mountain, hidden in the wilds of the Ozarks. He doesn't push his beliefs on anyone, ever, and can teach you a ton of stuff about getting ready for and living through the SHTF. Also tactical expertise. PJ is cultured, urbane, articulate, very chill and very funny and really, really ready for whatever comes down the pike. He's on Patreon, also a few vids on Youtube so you get a free taste of what as little as $1 a month can get you. Beyond that, I subscribe to many off grid homesteading blogs featuring a lot of badass women with serious pioneering skills. One is Practical Self Reliance, another is Nitty Gritty Life. Here is a prepper website that's handy. https://www.prepperwebsite.com/ This is a very informative website. Not just articles on making coffee with chicory. https://www.americanpreppersonline.com/how-to-survive-martial-law/ But remember to have books, too - in the event of a Big Pulse, natural or manmade, the internet will avail you not. Check out the book Lost Ways by Claude Davis. I wouldn't be without it. Again, the bottom line - always hope for best outcomes, hope is always appropriate, but do not rely on the government to save you if the worst should occur. Be prepared to save yourself and your loved ones. Good luck.
The internet won't help later if there is a Pulse, but it will help now with deciding what things to buy and from whom, and good to print off things to save with instructions or recipies one might want in print later on. A lot of what I am reading online are things that are helping now.
Planting some Nigella sativa ("Black Cumin) in the garden for medicinal purposes. There was a good study that showed efficacy against Covid which seems to be less of a threat lately, but it may be helpful for other things, too, and it won't depend on supply chain or importing from China if I have it in my garden. It has a blue flower with black seeds - you toast the seeds lightly and can grind them in a coffee grinder and put the powder in a capsule, or just eat the toasted seeds. I learned about use of this for Covid from Dr Been on one of his you-tube videos, and the FLCCC doctors have also recommended it as a possible substitute for Ivermectin or along with. So, one can can get more info online, but I heard Dr. Been go through the research, then I looked up other papers for other than Covid, decided it would be good to have a resource - who knows, might work for other viruses, it has been tried for various things, and has been used for thousands of years in Asia and the Middle East.
Thanks for the recommendation for Lost Ways, that sounds like a good one to have, and thanks also for info on bloggers, links etc. I will look into these. Thank you.
I agree with everything being said in the group comments. We do have to prepare and it is better to look foolish than starving. I am was thinking of planting beans and squash in public parks to spread out the growing possibilities. The edges of fields and parks would be easy to use.
Yes, there are methods to avoid food shortages that won't take years to develop. It is prime time to convert to organic and get off seed and chemical control wagon. I took a class from Harvard online last year about climate change and humanity regarding food. The big problem is getting food to where it is needed, because there is plenty of food produced worldwide. The documentary, The Need to Grow is excellent among others.
Cuba went organic after the Soviets stopped shipping fertilizer there. Also had to manufacture their own farm equipment. It was a tough time but they got it down. See the film, 'The Greening of Cuba".
Yes, Cuba is organic. I have been there a couple of times. The problem is the controlling dictatorship. Cubans are not allowed to grow their own food, so many are hungry. They do try to find ways to hide some plants, but it is meagre. The better food goes to the privileged and tourists. The local guarapo has been a life saver for many Cubans due to the minerals and protein, but the sugar content is hard on the teeth and blood sugar levels..
Gardening is key. And the good news is, it's something more and more people started doing during lockdown, as I know very well - I am a nurserywoman. Our sales on veggie starts increased about 400%. Hoping this season it will stay that way or even increase. I am in a very, very rural area so I can't judge what is happening in cities. We are happily positioned, got everything but coffee, flour, rice and sugar. I buy those in bulk. My Laura Ingalls Wilder life. And yes, I have guns. You bet.
I freaking love little house on the prairieтАФthe books, the series, all of it. Such a prime opportunity not only to teach my kids some history for better or worse, but about self reliance. Which we arenтАЩt great at, but itтАЩs definitely a high priority!
Friends of mine who work with the legendary John Jeavons promote Victory Gardens by giving talks to communities in schools, libraries, etc. A garden not only saves you money, it can save your sanity, if not your life. Maybe the planet, too. https://www.victorygardensforpeace.com/
Well, it's interesting. As a long term prepper I have been following this closely. The MSM has been posting soothing articles, to the effect that, not to worry, it will just be Africa and Asia where billions will die, not the U.S. Oh, and then, well, Europe too, we guess, once the starving millions start pouring in. Here in the U.S. we'll just experience higher food prices and severe shortages, leading to inevitable crime waves, riots, martial law and rationing for thee, but all will be well once they perfect Soylent Green. My advice - start educating yourself about post-SHTF survival. Start stacking food to the rafters (no one's laughing at my prepping these days). Understand that once things break down we'll be on our own. Aim for a six-month food supply, more as you can. Assemble your tribe. And if you are in a city - GTFO and move to a rural area with a strong agricultural community. "Come out of her [Babylon], my people, lest ye partake of her sins and receive of her plagues." I love that quote and I'm not even a Christian. It's quite possible that civilization as we know it is likely to collapse, but don't count on the government to save you, they're the ones who are causing it. There will be a terrible winnowing.
I am hoping that some sense will be brought to play in this dire picture and steps will be taken, but again, I'm not counting on it. I believe that the famine is part of the plan to kill off 3/4 of the world's population. And yes, I'm wearing my tinfoil hat as I write this. It's so me. So. Four things people can do on their own. Grow a garden (even in containers), raise chickens, learn to hunt and fish, and develop bartering skills. I realize this is not an easy plan for someone living in Manhattan, but I do know some city dwellers who have freezers and go on annual hunting/fishing trips. Most importantly, look at your present life situation and ask yourself, what would you do if everything went t*ts up in a ditch. Are you bug-out ready? Then take it from there. The information is out there.
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Thing is (and it is not surprising), these leftie 'no meat' idiots do not realize when they complain about raising cattle using too many resources, is that livestock are the only practical way to use the majority of available land for agriculture. The land is too poor, and the water supply too limited, for conventional agriculture. Livestock -- especially goats and sheep, though cattle too -- can make use of marginal land that otherwise would lie fallow. Stocking rates are low, but the land produces what it can.
Edited to add link from deleted comment above, to which this post was a response:
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/rockefeller-foundation-president-starts-countdown-until-all-hell-breaks-loose
Did you read about the proposal to put masks on cattle to stop the so-called cow burp methane problem. That should go over well with the ranchers.
Methane is a gas. What mask do the idiots think can filter out gas molecules? Also, a lot of that methane is coming out the other end.
Depends!!
ThatтАЩs exactly what weтАЩve been wearing on our faces!
This is being promoted by Prince Charles, the next head of the German crime family currently known as the Windsors.
If that asteroid doesnтАЩt turn up soon we may have to take action ourselves...
There are a few things that might react with methane, potassium permanganate for example. That does not make it a good idea, but just saying, someone somewhere will probably be able to invent a way to make something like this work.
Yeah, well, they can try it. Cattle aren't as stupid as some people think. They will find a way to get rid of that mask, and it won't take long. There's also researchers looking at ways to make them belch and fart less, basically via animal husbandry -- selective breeding. The 'genetically modified organisms' as they existed, before researchers learned how to gene splice.
Which reminds of the old saying, 'best be careful what you ask for.'
The whole methane from cows affecting the climate is nothing but bullshit.
Yes, well, WE know that... but THEY are convinced... so they try to select for 'environmentally helpful' animals. Is is all BS of course, as is the argument that 'climate change' is caused by humans. Here's a start; you may already know but there are others here who want to learn:
https://realclimatescience.com/erasing-americas-hot-past/
We're in Wokeville, CA. My sig oth has a phenomenal memory - he'll cite temps from the 1970s, the 1930's, etc., talk about Maunder Minimums, most people scream and run away from us. We don't go to a lot of parties. Hopefully it will be different when we get to Texas.
As long as you're going rural/suburban you'll be OK. My sis and BIL left Austin fall 2019 for SW Utah and wouldn't think of going back there.
Oh, trust me...we know. I had to go to a wedding outside of Austin, flew in to the city. The "I love Beto" shirts brought on an acute bout of nausea. No, we're headed to the back of beyond.
You go just about 45 miles west and you are in Orange Man country.
I hear ya. On a trip from Alaska to Florida, we were supposed to stay in Austin for 3 days. After a walk down тАЬMain StreetтАЭ, lunch, and a quick stop to look at cowboy boots, 24 hours and we were gone. Never going back. Crazy crazy crazy libs on every cornerтАж..
We welcome your sort!
Thank you kindly, ma'am! We'll have our Trump decals prominently displayed on our vehicles. I think there are many of us conservatives fleeing from the misery of life in a blue state.
You know, it was the whole Global Warming hoax that first sent me down the rabbit hole 15 years ago, a domino effect - made me swallow that red pill and wake (as opposed to woke) my stupid liberal as* TF up and become a thinking person -i.e. a conservative. I walked away from my Dem family and have never looked back. Covid was just a dress rehearsal for the climate change fascism that is coming.
Also, geoengineeringwatch.org
Thank you!!
Also check out Suspcious 0bservers, Ice Age Farmer
good site - thanks!
Does this gender confusion mean that you are eligible for a seat on SCOTUS?
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Exactly!
It will likely be something cruel - just as hens' beaks are burned off in factory farms to keep them from pecking one another to death in their distress. And pigs' tails are cut off to prevent their fellow prisoners from biting them, for the same reason.
ItтАЩs chemistry not genetics. As plant matter breaks down, either inside an organism or outside, methane is released.
How do the animals eat?
That should go over well with the ranchers? ЁЯЩД what about the cows?
The cows won't put up with it for a minute.
I canтАЩt.
It helps to realise that so-called тАШenvironmentalistsтАЩ have pre-school minds, so they believe if we used the grain to feed Humans instead of animals, then we could eliminate animals. Leaving aside - as stated above - most animal food is grass, weeds and scrub from land not suitable for arable farming, meat is mass for mass much more nutritious than plant matter, and contains all essential amino-acids for Human tissue growth. To maintain the same nutritional level requires a large range and/or quantity of plant matter. This is why plant eating animals have specially adapted digestive tracts, and spend most of the 24 hours, eating.
It is why тАШhealth foodтАЩ shops have shelves stocked with jars and boxes of vitamin and mineral supplements.
Organic farming requires more land, more water and other resources to produce an equivalent amount of crop-output compared to industrial farming techniques.
Our ancestors had organic farming, with little meat in their diet. There is a reason why they changed and a reason why in poor Countries, as people get wealthier, meat is a priority in their involuntary vegan, organic diet.
Only an ignoramus can believe that if animals consume plant matter and produce methane, if Humans ingest it they wonтАЩt.
I agree with most of what you say, except that in some people groups, depending on geography, arable land is at a minimum, but it will sustain herds and flocks of (edible) livestock. And a significant portion of human history occurred before farming of grains began, while hunting was common.
That is so. In large parts of France for example, the terrain - thin top soil, rock and clay just below the surface - is unsuitable for growing crops. That leaves animals, particularly sheep, goats and poultry, some fruits, and vines which grow where other crops wonтАЩt. Hence lots of goat and sheep cheese and wines and very little dairy. (Northern France dairy, pigs, fruit, veg and cereals.) Such arable land there is, usually in valley bottoms, is used largely for growing grains to feed poultry, and produce cooking oils.
Too many people with strong opinions about farming have never seen a farm, never gone hungry, they live in towns/cities with an eco-propaganda pamphlet knowledge of food production. Ignorance + stupid + liar = Environmentalist.
Don't forget elitist. Oh, and racist, too.
It also helps to realize that many of the so-called 'environmentalists' absolutely hate humanity.
If only they would extend that hate to themselves (although maybe this demonstrates that they are not human.)
Exactly. Those people think they love nature, natural things, and science, but they are so clueless.
I've been saying for years (as I have some liberal friends) , "God bless the Liberals. They mean well but haven't a clue how things work in the real world..."
yup, them thar vegans are nutso....just because it takes 'only' 2k gal of h20 to produce One lb of meat & that there are some [this ret.mechanic happily included] who have been cured of multiple diseases just by changing the'fuel' they scarff down& thereby driving down big pHarma's revenues...its just plain un-amerikan,eh?
IIRC it also takes 1k gallons of H2O to produce a pound of almonds... one of the vegan eater's favorite things.
Sadly, most of the people I know aren't even "awake." They are asleep, period. Last night, we had dinner with some friends who I know are clueless and I asked them if they were stocking up on food and told them what Brandon had said weeks ago. When I used the word "prepping" they looked at me like, "whaaat?!" The response was that their freezer was full of meat. I said, "No, staples like pasta, rice, canned goods." The subject of generators came up bc they have one that could run the whole house and then, "if everyone's running them, getting gas will be a problem." But it seemed like a conversation about the hypothetical and they likely woke up this morning to business as usual.
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Yeah. Hubby's niece, we don't have shortages here. (East Bay Area)
You and me both, when it comes to the battle.
Three days of food on shelves in major cities. тАЬWhereтАЩs the beef???тАЭ Will precede many a looting spree
The raptors are. As much as we can. Sorta wishing we had that sailboat back.
Agreed. Want to see something about about our food supply: https://www.phillymag.com/citified/2015/03/23/scientists-are-growing-vaccine-laced-lettuce-at-pennovation/#SSzw5lDusVEurtur.01
It's not too late to plant a garden - use heirloom seeds and plant all the vegetables you can. Buy canned or dried beans / peas, rice, canned tuna, salmon, chicken. You can still buy wheat and grind your own flour at home for home made bread. The problem is, this is intentional and those in high places want this to happen, I think. There are many different causes. I read six months ago that China had decided not to sell any fertilizer to the US, and not to sell us the ingredients to make fertilizer. I also read that US factories that produce fertilizer had been shut down for various reasons, and that there had been sabotage of train shipments of fertilizer / fertilizer ingredients and storage facilities. In the city where I live, a large warehouse that stored fertilizer caught fire - perhaps arson? I don't know. Russia also is an exporter of fertilizer, but obviously won't be selling to us, if they are selling to anyone at all. With a shortage of fertilizer, that is one factor that is going to contribute to smaller harvests than usual in the current growing season, and the soonest things could get back on track is fall of 2023 or some predict perhaps well into 2024. Besides that, I understand that Russia and Ukraine normally produce a substantial percentage of the world's wheat, but with the war on, I'm sure none of the Ukrainian men are doing any farming this year, and the women and kids are refugees, so globally, wheat will be more scarce. Meanwhile, Union Pacific railway has said they are unable to honor their contracts to transport wheat, so that supply chain is broken. Tucker Carlson and others have reported on fires and explosions at a number of food processing facilities - El Gato has said that he doesn't believe this is any more than might be "usual" though some disagree. I have been seeing for about the past 9 months one thing after another that makes me wonder if we are heading to a global food shortage f a serious nature - any one little thing by itself may be nothing, but I keep seeing a variety of things that make me think it would be prudent to plan ahead for oneself and one's family. President Biden has said there will be a food shortage and it's going to be real - I know he has dementia but the people who control him probably told him that, and perhaps they know more about it than we do. And you grow your own vegetables, you do not have to worry about someone programming them to include vaccines you may not want. Not just food, but while you are thinking about, store some water as well. I think it is getting too late to do much to mitigate this much by government action - if farmers don't have their fertilizer by now - I say IF because I don't know who has how much fertizlier - but if they don't have it by now, it's too late now, it is time to be planting, or they should have already planted. If yields are smaller due to lack of fertilizer, we'll find that out by fall. But, I think we're likely to see increasing food shortages through the summer perhaps because of supply chain issues and/or perhaps sabotage. IF this shortage becames the problem that many think it will, I think it is because there are people in high places (whether here or other countries, or both) who wanted it that way. I don't think anyone is going to stop it, and we need to take steps to take care of ourselves. Those who have access and are able to hunt or fish will do better.
I agree with all that you say. Yes, this is intentional, that's a tough one for people to wrap their heads around - but wasn't covid the same? And it's time for people to let go of their prejudice about "those crazy survivalist-types" and start recognizing that such people have wisdom and skills we can learn from. There are many, many prepper blogs and videos online, as well as books. Find the ones that you like and learn from them. I live a largely DIY life these days, after giving up my badass life as an outlaw cannabis grower of twenty years' standing, which definitely prepared me for these times. I bake my own bread, make my own soap and laundry detergent (works out to $.03 per load and I can add what essential oils I like. Takes all of an hour to make a one gallon batch). I realize that not everyone can do this. But I've done the corporate thing, left it for "Green Acres". I like this better. P.S. for a peek at what life might be like post-TEOTWAWKI ("The end of the world as we know it"), here's a work of fiction some might find interesting - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Made_by_Hand
Agree there is a lot that can be learned from others, including blogs and you-tube videos about what foods to store and how to store them. I think people will need to know a lot about taking care of themselves to survive - can learn a lot from others, and the time to start is now. I am still on a learning curve and have only less than a year ago started to appreciate what we are probably heading into. I usually don't say much about these things as many people do think it is crazy, but more and more I see things in the news, and it is becoming more normal to realize where we are heading. It doesn't hurt to be prepared - we are already eating fresh foods from our garden (we live in the south and planted some veggies early in the spring). We tried out our wheat grinder and had some pretty decent bread recently. If the worst does not happen and I was just crazy, we still have food we can eat, and no harm done.
Exactly. And you're not at all crazy, you're on the right path. "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst." My grandparents and parents went through the Depression, and taught me a lot about being prepared. My mother's people had a cellar full of food they had grown and put by, including a wall full of my grandfather's amazing homemade root beer. I have my grandmother's last Presto pressure cooker, it's probably in its 50th year and going strong. I love to can and preserve, and that helps. Also have a big freezer and a great food dehydrator so we have lovely dried fruits and berries, tomatoes...a smoker is the next thing. And today we got our new water purifier, it literally turns green bacteria-laden pond scum into sparkling clear water. We just drank wayyy too much homemade mead for May Day, so simple to make, with honey and lemon and ginger. I am a self-taught herbalist going on 50 years, and we can make or forage most remedies we need. Sickness invariably follows in the wake of famine (the Spanish Flu has been traced to a famine in India in the latter part of the 19th century) so people need to understand that, as well, and be prepared. Give up your material lifestyle of cell phones and Starbucks and meds and instant gratification and you'll do better in what's coming - and maybe even discover a level of tranquility, happiness and joy in living you never thought possible. All without a tour to Bali.
Beautiful post, thank-you.
Do you have any YouTube channels you recommend?
RoseRed Homesteading
Storage of Dry Foods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct18THw4w-M
I have watched videos from many sources and don't follow just one channel, but if you search you tube for "Forever Foods" or "Foods that Keep Forever," you will find a number of videos that will give you ideas for things that naturally keep well mostly without special preparation, and some are things you would not think of that you may need - salt, cornstarch, instant coffee, white rice - things that would actually keep for decades without degrading, and it's useful to look at some of these videos to get ideas. One thing I learned is that even though we think of brown rice as being healhier, because of natural oils it can go rancid and won't keep as long, so if you want to buy a huge amount of rice to store indefinitely, get white rice, and it does best if stored in glass jars. But you will see videos such as "15 Forever Foods," or "20 foods everyone should have" etc. and they are helpful. Btw, we rice, doing some further checking, I found that Basmati white rice has 4 grams of protein per serving which is as much as brown rice. I was thinking of all the ways to get protein if meat is not in the stores, but then found a video that remnded me not to overlook fat which is an important energy source for us, and also needed in order for us to utlize some vitmains that are "fat soluble."
This link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M43rO3hXiX0 goes to one of the "Forever Food" type of videos, and the suggestions are good except he may be a bit off on two points 1) he said if you are doing long term prepping, get regular salt instead of "iodized salt," but here is the thing - salt with no iodine apparently keeps longer, BUT to prevent thyroid problems, everyone needs a little iodine which most people get from table salt that contains iodine, PLUS, I'm thinking, I'm not worried about keeping food for the next 40 years, I'm worried primarily about just getting through the next couple years, so I would want to have iodized salt. 2) In the video, he also mentions real maple syrup will keep pretty much forever but he recommends against artificial maple syrup, and then someone in a comment said, the fake maple syrup will also keep long term, and I would think so, but I don't know for 100% sure. Again, in any case, I'm not thinking about something that will happen 10 years from now, I'm thinking about a relatively immanent food shortage, and having food for now and perhaps to have things to list into 2024. Many foods we buy may have a shelf life into 2023, but fewer would last till 2024, except that some foods naturally store long term where you don't have to be thinking about special prep or worrying about expiration date.
As far as one good channel, I would recommend RoseRed Homesteading I will post links to 2 of her videos and if you go to one you can subscribe if you choose. In this one, she is explaining good storage methods for dry foods like flour, wheat, oats, dry beans etc. basically thinking about how to safely keep bugs out. She says living in a desert area, she has only ever had a problem with bugs in her food once but she shows you that you can put your dry foods (rice, beans, lentils, wheat etc.) into Mylar bags with an oxygen absorber, and the bugs will not be able to live without oxygen, that video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct18THw4w-M and then she had another one to explain why it's not really safe to do what some call "dry canning" to store your dry foods - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OZ09VJk7o
RedRose Homesteading you tube channel has a presenter who has a PhD in a scientific field, who has done a lot of do-it-yourself homesteading kinds of things for decades, lots of experience, and explains things in accurately and in an understandable and interesting way, not too academic but very practical by someone who knows what she is talking about. There are numerous videos on you tube about something called dry canning which is very complicated and time consuming but not actually safe or useful - people put their beans and rice etc. into canning jars, put them in the oven to heat, apparently to kill any possible insect eggs or bacterial spores - but she says, this is not really a good method and may hurt rather than help food quality.
I do know a lady who has milled her own flour in her own kitchen and baked her own bread for decades, and I asked her some questions when I decided to start doing this myself - she cautioned me that if I get wheat that is just packaged in a plastic bag, to put in my freezer for three days to kill any possible insect larvae, and the RedRose lady also mentioned about 3 days in the freezer though that is NOT necessary if the food is packaged in Mylar with an oxygen absorber, and you can buy wheat that way, if you want wheat, some of the farms that sell wheat on Amazon will ship them sealed in Mylar and in a plastic bucket with screw on lid. The bugs can't live without oxygen, so that will store without having to do anything else and when I considered the cost of me buying the mylar, the oxygen absorbers, the buckets, it seemed fine to me to just buy it already packaged that way.
Oh, and an article on long term foods that will keep pretty much forever -
https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/long-term-food-storage-staples-that-last-forever/
The thing to do is just search a bit and start reading / start watching, and ask questions. I asked a few questions of a lady I bought some wheat from. You can read reviews of some of the companies that sell various products on Amazon, and I have emailed several companies, actually about information I needed - you can buy a lot of foods in bulk through Amazon. Some of the survival foods are overpriced, like - well, look at MyPatriotSupply or 4Patriots, and some of their things may be "worth it" and others not - you can buy wheat or rice in bulk from Amazon and comparison shop, figuring out how much does this cost in the grocery store, and how much per ounce online. Problem is, food does keep going up, prices keep going higher and higher, but for the most part, you don't actually need tons of prepackaged meals that will last for 30 years, you need food for winter of 2022-23 and maybe the year after that - one can buy some of the special survival foods, but I'm thinking more about what normal things can I grown from heirloom seeds in my own garden, and what normal foods can I get that will stay good or store safely to stay ahead of current and upcoming shortages. You can do a lot with "normal" foods without buying the expesnive survival foods, though some items may be worthwhile.
And then keep in mind water - for example, the Berkey Water Filter would help you to purfiy water from a rain barrel or possibly sketchy sources if necessary as well as for just every day filtering out pollutants from tap water -
https://www.berkeywaterfilter.com/
Maybe that would get you started a bit. You have to just do some digging, and I suppose there are also helpful books on Amazon but I've been learning online and then asking questions where I can as needed.
Wow, thank you for your thoughtful message. That was serious dedication to type that out! I will take this all into consideration. The only thing I believe is at some point I have to trust in God. For large families, how can they prepare for months of food shortages and also the looting and thuggery that will likely abound scare me too.
Excellent post, thank you! What a coincidence, our handsome new Berkey just arrived today. After much research, we think they are the best - their filtration system can even remove food coloring from water!! The Sig Oth has it already mounted up on the wall in our RV, which is our Bug-Out "Location", Aka "Plan B", Plan A being sit tight. I have myself, a woman now in her mid-60s, picked up a shovel and fought no less than five wildfires that threatened my home in the past 29 years here, so being ready to bug out is second nature. We use commercial Seal-a-meal packaging, then into 5 gallon buckets for certain things, also, always throw a handful of bay leaves in flours and cereals, keeps the bugs out and as a bonus you always have a stash of bay leaves. Here's one of many, many lists online about what to stockpile. https://tuppennysfireplace.com/best-foods-to-stockpile/ There are also many posts about how much you need per person in your family. Remember that careful stockpiling today prevents panic buying and hoarding tomorrow. Also "one equals none, and two equals one" is a prepper maxim. If you have one of something, use it and you have none, and if you have two...you get the point. And of course you can rotate your stores but REPLACE them, ASAP. The moment you crack those stores open the clock is ticking towards running out of food. One last thought - don't stash food you don't like, because you think you "should". I ignore the advice to stock up on Spam and Treet. I was raised on the former and had my fill of it, and cannot stand the latter. Prefer good homemade deer jerky and sardines and they're better for you anyway. Remember things like honey (sure to be in short supply) and also spices, so you can eat well and maintain your health and wellbeing with delicious food.
I like Bjorn Andreas Bull Hansen, who dropped out to live in a cabin in the woods in Norway. He has a lot of wisdom about modern life, as well as teaching good skills. And I am, as I said, not a Christian, but I love Viking Preparedness with Pastor Joe Fox, former Green Beret and Special Forces Officer, now living with his extraordinary wife Sister Kate (who has her own channel) in their community at Shofar Mountain, hidden in the wilds of the Ozarks. He doesn't push his beliefs on anyone, ever, and can teach you a ton of stuff about getting ready for and living through the SHTF. Also tactical expertise. PJ is cultured, urbane, articulate, very chill and very funny and really, really ready for whatever comes down the pike. He's on Patreon, also a few vids on Youtube so you get a free taste of what as little as $1 a month can get you. Beyond that, I subscribe to many off grid homesteading blogs featuring a lot of badass women with serious pioneering skills. One is Practical Self Reliance, another is Nitty Gritty Life. Here is a prepper website that's handy. https://www.prepperwebsite.com/ This is a very informative website. Not just articles on making coffee with chicory. https://www.americanpreppersonline.com/how-to-survive-martial-law/ But remember to have books, too - in the event of a Big Pulse, natural or manmade, the internet will avail you not. Check out the book Lost Ways by Claude Davis. I wouldn't be without it. Again, the bottom line - always hope for best outcomes, hope is always appropriate, but do not rely on the government to save you if the worst should occur. Be prepared to save yourself and your loved ones. Good luck.
The internet won't help later if there is a Pulse, but it will help now with deciding what things to buy and from whom, and good to print off things to save with instructions or recipies one might want in print later on. A lot of what I am reading online are things that are helping now.
Planting some Nigella sativa ("Black Cumin) in the garden for medicinal purposes. There was a good study that showed efficacy against Covid which seems to be less of a threat lately, but it may be helpful for other things, too, and it won't depend on supply chain or importing from China if I have it in my garden. It has a blue flower with black seeds - you toast the seeds lightly and can grind them in a coffee grinder and put the powder in a capsule, or just eat the toasted seeds. I learned about use of this for Covid from Dr Been on one of his you-tube videos, and the FLCCC doctors have also recommended it as a possible substitute for Ivermectin or along with. So, one can can get more info online, but I heard Dr. Been go through the research, then I looked up other papers for other than Covid, decided it would be good to have a resource - who knows, might work for other viruses, it has been tried for various things, and has been used for thousands of years in Asia and the Middle East.
Thanks for the recommendation for Lost Ways, that sounds like a good one to have, and thanks also for info on bloggers, links etc. I will look into these. Thank you.
I agree with everything being said in the group comments. We do have to prepare and it is better to look foolish than starving. I am was thinking of planting beans and squash in public parks to spread out the growing possibilities. The edges of fields and parks would be easy to use.
They want this. It's part of the NWO plan.
Yes, there are methods to avoid food shortages that won't take years to develop. It is prime time to convert to organic and get off seed and chemical control wagon. I took a class from Harvard online last year about climate change and humanity regarding food. The big problem is getting food to where it is needed, because there is plenty of food produced worldwide. The documentary, The Need to Grow is excellent among others.
Cuba went organic after the Soviets stopped shipping fertilizer there. Also had to manufacture their own farm equipment. It was a tough time but they got it down. See the film, 'The Greening of Cuba".
Yes, Cuba is organic. I have been there a couple of times. The problem is the controlling dictatorship. Cubans are not allowed to grow their own food, so many are hungry. They do try to find ways to hide some plants, but it is meagre. The better food goes to the privileged and tourists. The local guarapo has been a life saver for many Cubans due to the minerals and protein, but the sugar content is hard on the teeth and blood sugar levels..
Gardening is key. And the good news is, it's something more and more people started doing during lockdown, as I know very well - I am a nurserywoman. Our sales on veggie starts increased about 400%. Hoping this season it will stay that way or even increase. I am in a very, very rural area so I can't judge what is happening in cities. We are happily positioned, got everything but coffee, flour, rice and sugar. I buy those in bulk. My Laura Ingalls Wilder life. And yes, I have guns. You bet.
I freaking love little house on the prairieтАФthe books, the series, all of it. Such a prime opportunity not only to teach my kids some history for better or worse, but about self reliance. Which we arenтАЩt great at, but itтАЩs definitely a high priority!
Friends of mine who work with the legendary John Jeavons promote Victory Gardens by giving talks to communities in schools, libraries, etc. A garden not only saves you money, it can save your sanity, if not your life. Maybe the planet, too. https://www.victorygardensforpeace.com/
Tucker has mentioned it a couple of times in the last week or so
Well, it's interesting. As a long term prepper I have been following this closely. The MSM has been posting soothing articles, to the effect that, not to worry, it will just be Africa and Asia where billions will die, not the U.S. Oh, and then, well, Europe too, we guess, once the starving millions start pouring in. Here in the U.S. we'll just experience higher food prices and severe shortages, leading to inevitable crime waves, riots, martial law and rationing for thee, but all will be well once they perfect Soylent Green. My advice - start educating yourself about post-SHTF survival. Start stacking food to the rafters (no one's laughing at my prepping these days). Understand that once things break down we'll be on our own. Aim for a six-month food supply, more as you can. Assemble your tribe. And if you are in a city - GTFO and move to a rural area with a strong agricultural community. "Come out of her [Babylon], my people, lest ye partake of her sins and receive of her plagues." I love that quote and I'm not even a Christian. It's quite possible that civilization as we know it is likely to collapse, but don't count on the government to save you, they're the ones who are causing it. There will be a terrible winnowing.
You're right, but you see, most people can't handle that truth. Serious preppers go with the Mormon two-year plan.
I am hoping that some sense will be brought to play in this dire picture and steps will be taken, but again, I'm not counting on it. I believe that the famine is part of the plan to kill off 3/4 of the world's population. And yes, I'm wearing my tinfoil hat as I write this. It's so me. So. Four things people can do on their own. Grow a garden (even in containers), raise chickens, learn to hunt and fish, and develop bartering skills. I realize this is not an easy plan for someone living in Manhattan, but I do know some city dwellers who have freezers and go on annual hunting/fishing trips. Most importantly, look at your present life situation and ask yourself, what would you do if everything went t*ts up in a ditch. Are you bug-out ready? Then take it from there. The information is out there.