politicizing medical choices and seeking to turn them into moral absolutes and imperatives is as immoral as it is counterproductive.
the simple fact is this: 99% of the people screaming “follow the science” are really just regurgitating a political talking point for tactical and tribal advantage.
repeat after me: the occupant of the white house has no effect on vaccine efficacy.
watching the very same people who we’re howling “FAKE VAXX!” and “FRAUD” before the election now try to vilify anyone who will not accept the very vaccines they said you’d have to be insane to take and morally grandstand about how you need to get injected or you’re an evil anti-vaxxer hell bent on killing kids and grandmas and destroying america carries less than no moral weight.
it’s a moral inversion and the elevation of the tactical above the honest.
it’s a near perfect shibboleth for being a total fraud and a political hatchet man (or woman. or whatever. i flat out cannot keep track of purported genders these days.)
it’s also a very clear statement about just how stupid and malleable they think you are. the base assumption is that you have the memory of a goldfish. (or possibly that rancid durian is not as bad as it sounds?)
they were making up facts and engaging in hysterical, baseless claims then and they are still doing it now. there is no data here, no science, nor even any real opinion.
it’s just agenda: naked and blatant with no attempt to hide it.
vaccines are a legitimate and complex topic of discussion and this grotesque, disingenuous assault on them followed by fawning partisan populist jab pushing has no place in the public health sphere.
note that there was never any data and never any discussion of risk reward.
these people are part of the problem and their enlistment into the cult of dictatorial public health mandate and moral opprobrium has done nothing but set back trust in public health in the US even further than the fauci flip flops and follies already had. let’s not forget that this was the man telling everyone to go on a cruise in march of 2020, that masks did not stop spread, and that the virus could not possibly be a lab escape despite having funded just this research at just the lab in question.
public health runs on public trust. but how could anyone trust people like this who lie and flip positions at whim, without basis, and solely for political advantage and them lie about lying and then about lying about lying?
these are the actions of a propogandist and a authoritarian apologist, not a moralist or a scientist/health-worker.
then they sputter in indignation that no one will believe a word they say?
it’s a self fulfilling prophesy: debase public health and public discourse to the point of being completely untrustworthy and replace it with hectoring harridans and tactical totalitarians then lament the lack of public faith and use it as a pretext to drive mandates.
“if you won’t trust the people who keep lying to you, we’re going to need to force you.”
(said no just or ethical human. ever.)
this is what is now passing for public health in american government and for health discourse in america’s public square.
there is nothing productive here. dishonesty and manipulation is not a sound basis for medical practice, much less mandate.
it’s time to stop digging this hole. it’s going to be hard enough to climb out of as it is.
tune these people out. the best interest they have at heart is not yours and never was.
thanks to melissa tate from whom i borrowed some of these images.
Public health and governments are displaying a myriad of cognitive biases throughout this dystopian nightmare - anchoring, herd following, confirmation bias and sunk cost fallacy - all on display and the majority of society has been played with nary a question or critical thought now that the Orange Man has been dispatched. Western societies have been captured and it is going to be a long tough slog to climb out of this sinkhole. I am 54 and I don’t think I will see it in my lifetime. I am fully preparing myself for a tough next 1-2 years. We will need to be mentally strong to get through this gaslighting and sleight of hand. Check out this data from Ontario public health. We have 12 people with Covid in ICUs and. our population is 14 million! BTW, all 12 are vaccinated
Art, I am 56. I agree, the light at the top of the well we have been pushed in seems to get farther and farther away. Solutions abound, we just need the strength to pursue and implement them... Damn, the torpedoes.
A positive outcome of our country headed towards bankruptcy the potential for this army of entrenched bureaucrats losing their jobs. What would these people be like if they've had to make their living in the free market? I'm guessing they'd be a lot tougher and would have a lot more to be concerned about than orange men and viruses.
If these draconian policies haven't worked after 18 months, they never will. "Do as you're told" is the desperate plea, disguised as an order, of a martinet who has lost control. Response? Stare blankly at them for a moment, blink your eyes, turn away and continue whatever you were doing.
There’s a reason we say doctors ‘practice’ medicine. It’s not a sure thing, and progress is always being made. No one should ever be required/intimidated to take any medical procedure/drug, etc.
Speaking of lies, there are some people making a real concerted effort to convince us all our children are in danger from COVID. CDC documents just 3300 pediatric hospitalizations since the beginning of the pandemic, but some ignoramus is trying to tell me ped vent use has rocketed from 1 to 8 in a matter of days 😱. I have no idea where he's gotten this data because I cannot find it, but this summer wave appears to be similar to last summer. Gato, have you examined these claims by Fauci and co. that Delta is "coming for our children?"
Thanks to masks and isolation, RSV is skyrocketing in kids. This accounts for nearly all rise in hospital admissions in kids. All get pcr tested for covid, and we know the positives are 50-90% bogus, but the hospital gets a nice cash prize for every one.
I know Dr McCullough said the PCR tests detecting COVID19 when was the flu so maybe that is happening in regard to RSV and Covid. Kid comes in sick with similar symptoms, test for COVID, but it's actually RSV. My whole family had it last month.
Yes, I just had an editor at our local newspaper (Lexington Herald-Leader) e-mail me that she could not publish that "children are at lower risk from Covid than older people". She linked some NYTs piece. In return I linked CDC data. These people are next level in their religious devotion to the fear cult which in this case translates into the Mask Cult. The day before school started 21/22 year, Kentucky Governor ordered all schools public and private to be masked, pre-schoolers included. Major counties had already opted for mask optional. Beshear did not want these control groups to exist. MSM sources circle the wagons.
delta is far less deadly. the CFR looks to be 90-95% lower than alpha.
there is no evidence that delta is a greater risk to children.
it is not so much that delta is vaccine evading as that vaccine efficacy (at least in terms of sterilizing immunity which was always a tenuous and poorly supported claim) is attenuating rapidly.
even topol and CDC saying so.
there is a bit of a US spike in child hospitalization, but it's not from covid, it's from RSV.
these kids come to hospital, then get found with trace covid and called "covid" because of the definitional games being played.
US hospitals seem to impart massive amounts of trace covid, their counting methodology was made more inclusive, and was moved from cdc to hhs with big fines for under reporting added.
it makes aggregate data very hard if not impossible to compare.
so they rely on anecdotes and made up stories.
it's the exact same playbook as last year to drive hysteria that hospitals are overwhelmed.
Daniel has been all over this since the beginning, truly one of the only conservative voices who has been consistent about what would happen if we didn't push back.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. It's unbelievable how we are being gaslighted by the media and government. And very troubling how people who should know better like friends in a conservative FB group go along with the hatred/scorn of the unvaxxed. I have started to think the line from MacBeth: Something wicked this way comes. Seems like our whole culture has gone off it's rocker.
There is no variant because there is nothing to vary from. Until High Priest virologists stop changing the definition of the word "isolation", all we have is a partially sequenced particle originating from a toxic soup with many other things in it. Since that soup is artificially starved and poisoned, we are only working with particles that could just as easily be dead cellular debris rather than some exogenous invader. They won't even follow their own gold standard. There is no scientific evidence of anything new going on in the world of microbes.... Unless you count cobbled together, computer generated models of partial DNA sequences and cartoons as hard evidence. If the CDC can't even locate the 'thing' in the first place, you can be sure they have no idea how to identify the bent over too fast variant of the original thing.
Maybe we should start treating Germ Theory for what it really is.
Pulling receipts on these assholes is almost too easy. My question is why the duplicity not obvious to everyone? Are people really that stupid? Wait. Lots of otherwise normal folks watch CNN routinely. Forget I asked!
lack of critical thinking, mixed with assuming they are getting truth in numbers rather than cherry picked numbers, and cognitive dissonance not wanting to 'circle back' to the right other answer.....
Natural immunity/resistance and people who have opted not to participate in the experimental drugs are now a proxy for ORANGE MAN! in the largest mass hysteria in history, some six years along.
Public health and governments are displaying a myriad of cognitive biases throughout this dystopian nightmare - anchoring, herd following, confirmation bias and sunk cost fallacy - all on display and the majority of society has been played with nary a question or critical thought now that the Orange Man has been dispatched. Western societies have been captured and it is going to be a long tough slog to climb out of this sinkhole. I am 54 and I don’t think I will see it in my lifetime. I am fully preparing myself for a tough next 1-2 years. We will need to be mentally strong to get through this gaslighting and sleight of hand. Check out this data from Ontario public health. We have 12 people with Covid in ICUs and. our population is 14 million! BTW, all 12 are vaccinated
https://mobile.twitter.com/Golden_Pup/status/1425432115164946445
nicely explained... and exactly that! I am deeply disappointed with our health officials and I still hope that Fauci goes to jail one day.
I am 46 for the record ;-)
Art, I am 56. I agree, the light at the top of the well we have been pushed in seems to get farther and farther away. Solutions abound, we just need the strength to pursue and implement them... Damn, the torpedoes.
Yes indeed, Eric! Godspeed
A positive outcome of our country headed towards bankruptcy the potential for this army of entrenched bureaucrats losing their jobs. What would these people be like if they've had to make their living in the free market? I'm guessing they'd be a lot tougher and would have a lot more to be concerned about than orange men and viruses.
If these draconian policies haven't worked after 18 months, they never will. "Do as you're told" is the desperate plea, disguised as an order, of a martinet who has lost control. Response? Stare blankly at them for a moment, blink your eyes, turn away and continue whatever you were doing.
Love it, Eric! Fight the soft tyranny with soft irreverence!
The current "learning" loop
Repeat what I tell you.
Tell another.
Have them repeat it back to you.
Now I tell you that you are educated.
that sounds quite a like like a seminary...
Actually, micah6vs8, what you describe is *almost* the pedagogy practiced at nearly every level of Western education.
"Almost"
There’s a reason we say doctors ‘practice’ medicine. It’s not a sure thing, and progress is always being made. No one should ever be required/intimidated to take any medical procedure/drug, etc.
Guesswork in white coats
The last few years and certainly 2020, I found out just how many people merely cosplay being critical thinkers.
Speaking of lies, there are some people making a real concerted effort to convince us all our children are in danger from COVID. CDC documents just 3300 pediatric hospitalizations since the beginning of the pandemic, but some ignoramus is trying to tell me ped vent use has rocketed from 1 to 8 in a matter of days 😱. I have no idea where he's gotten this data because I cannot find it, but this summer wave appears to be similar to last summer. Gato, have you examined these claims by Fauci and co. that Delta is "coming for our children?"
Thanks to masks and isolation, RSV is skyrocketing in kids. This accounts for nearly all rise in hospital admissions in kids. All get pcr tested for covid, and we know the positives are 50-90% bogus, but the hospital gets a nice cash prize for every one.
Everything responds to incentives.
I know Dr McCullough said the PCR tests detecting COVID19 when was the flu so maybe that is happening in regard to RSV and Covid. Kid comes in sick with similar symptoms, test for COVID, but it's actually RSV. My whole family had it last month.
Hell there are labs that have got positive pcr tests from *water.* Not to mention goat and pawpaws.
Sales 101, Guy!
Yes, I just had an editor at our local newspaper (Lexington Herald-Leader) e-mail me that she could not publish that "children are at lower risk from Covid than older people". She linked some NYTs piece. In return I linked CDC data. These people are next level in their religious devotion to the fear cult which in this case translates into the Mask Cult. The day before school started 21/22 year, Kentucky Governor ordered all schools public and private to be masked, pre-schoolers included. Major counties had already opted for mask optional. Beshear did not want these control groups to exist. MSM sources circle the wagons.
I’m curious too. As well as the claim Delta is more deadly.
delta is far less deadly. the CFR looks to be 90-95% lower than alpha.
there is no evidence that delta is a greater risk to children.
it is not so much that delta is vaccine evading as that vaccine efficacy (at least in terms of sterilizing immunity which was always a tenuous and poorly supported claim) is attenuating rapidly.
even topol and CDC saying so.
there is a bit of a US spike in child hospitalization, but it's not from covid, it's from RSV.
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1425626300211937290?s=20
these kids come to hospital, then get found with trace covid and called "covid" because of the definitional games being played.
US hospitals seem to impart massive amounts of trace covid, their counting methodology was made more inclusive, and was moved from cdc to hhs with big fines for under reporting added.
it makes aggregate data very hard if not impossible to compare.
so they rely on anecdotes and made up stories.
it's the exact same playbook as last year to drive hysteria that hospitals are overwhelmed.
they aren't.
https://unheedy2.rssing.com/chan-1217288/article36324-live.html
a little walk down memory lane from back in the days that gatos still got invited to fight club...
good thread on RSV:
https://twitter.com/RMConservative/status/1425847067314884608?s=20
Daniel has been all over this since the beginning, truly one of the only conservative voices who has been consistent about what would happen if we didn't push back.
he's a longstanding pal and i have a great deal of respect for him.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this. It's unbelievable how we are being gaslighted by the media and government. And very troubling how people who should know better like friends in a conservative FB group go along with the hatred/scorn of the unvaxxed. I have started to think the line from MacBeth: Something wicked this way comes. Seems like our whole culture has gone off it's rocker.
Need you to pull an EthicalSkeptic and maybe use a voice changer to do his podcast sometime. Maybe use a cat voice...
I imagine El Gato like the cat that kept attacking Steve on American Dad, only learned and bilingual.
What is RSV?
What gato said
There is no variant because there is nothing to vary from. Until High Priest virologists stop changing the definition of the word "isolation", all we have is a partially sequenced particle originating from a toxic soup with many other things in it. Since that soup is artificially starved and poisoned, we are only working with particles that could just as easily be dead cellular debris rather than some exogenous invader. They won't even follow their own gold standard. There is no scientific evidence of anything new going on in the world of microbes.... Unless you count cobbled together, computer generated models of partial DNA sequences and cartoons as hard evidence. If the CDC can't even locate the 'thing' in the first place, you can be sure they have no idea how to identify the bent over too fast variant of the original thing.
Maybe we should start treating Germ Theory for what it really is.
Peter Hotez has some great “ before” and “after” election takes as well. Sigh.
Pulling receipts on these assholes is almost too easy. My question is why the duplicity not obvious to everyone? Are people really that stupid? Wait. Lots of otherwise normal folks watch CNN routinely. Forget I asked!
lack of critical thinking, mixed with assuming they are getting truth in numbers rather than cherry picked numbers, and cognitive dissonance not wanting to 'circle back' to the right other answer.....
You should have added Kamala and Joe Biden, they were also very skeptic about the whole thing....
But yes this hypocrisy is level master.
Natural immunity/resistance and people who have opted not to participate in the experimental drugs are now a proxy for ORANGE MAN! in the largest mass hysteria in history, some six years along.
It was astonishing to me how many TDS sufferers in my family were quick to get the jab.
cases are rising in mass with far higher vaxx rates.... the provincetown outbreak 75% +pcr were vaxxed.
'vaxx does not stop infection' has low consumer risk.
'vaxx is safe' has very high consumer risk, no data and calling 'hesitants' is heinous gaslighting
'vaxx prevents severe c19' has modest consumer risk
'c19 in summer 2021 is weak' has modest consumer risk.
the opposite of science is gaslighting questioners!
Brilliant, once again.
But what would a kitten do if they were mandated kibbles and bits?
barf. that's not even made of food.
receipts...sometimes they help and sometimes they really, really expose hypocrisy, evil and degenerate behaviour....