This is all we ever got out of the "vaccine" gene therapy. A very modest improvement in the severity of a disease that killed almost no one in the first place, and would probably have killed next to nobody if we had focused on treatment. For this, we brought down the boot of authoritarianism and economic ruin on a generation.
And after a bit of antigenic drift, the "modest improvement" is likely to flip the other way and the vaccine will be more dangerous than not.
Unfortunately it will be a few years before most of this dawns on most people and we have to bide our time in a world of gaslit insanity until then.
I had always known that fear has been used as a tool to control populations, but the extent to which a population willingly succumbs to fear has been quite astounding to watch. I see people who have been in a heightened state of fear for 18+ months now, and their minds are closed to reason and knowledge to the contrary of the lies they have been fed.
not if we say no. dont touch our children, over my dead body and if that is what it takes, so be it. what parent will not give up everythng to protect their children and this gene therapy is a lethal cocktail.
I just wrote letters and signed a few petitions just now through Stand for Health Freedom. One of the petitions going straight to DC if for stopping the gene therapy jabs for children. I was pretty curt on the letter and let them know they are not fooling any of us of what the wicked intentions they have. Just wrote to Senators and Congress people as well and to the FDA. Stand for Health Freedom is an excellent organization. You can find the petitions there. WE have to save our children from this wickedness.
Also, even if someone is in an area that has gone full totalitarian, and parents need to clot up their children to eat...none of us have to be first in line. Let the idiots march right down to the vaccination centers and shoot up their kids, we can sit back and see what happens from that experiment. If there are widespread immediate problems the program may be halted or mitigated. If there are not, then we can improve the long term odds for ours with nutrition and other prep before and after the shot.
This is not all that dissimilar to some other vaccines. Look at the rate of side effects/long term complications from HPV vaccines and then compare that with the lifetime incidences of cancers caused by HPV viruses.
let the govt officials, technocrats, fauci and his ilk, newsom and his ilk volunteer their kids first (which pains me to say) and see how that works out for them. But wonder if they would cheat that and put sterile saline in a syringe and inject that instead preventing any dangers to their children.
El Gato thank you as ever for all your incredible hard work.
My mum (84, early stage Alzheimers & dementia but no other underlying serious co-morbidities) died suddenly on Monday. When I got to the care home on the day, the first thing they told me was that the NHS had gone in on Friday & vaccinated all the residents with the 3rd covid (Pfizer my mum will likely have had) vaccine. I hold full health and welfare power of attorney because she didn't have capacity. No-one told me and no-one asked my permission. It doesn't matter what medical procedure it was - this wilful ignoring of POA and giving a medical procedure to someone without capacity & therefore in the absence of informed consent - is unacceptable.
Spoke to the GP who agrees a yellow card report needs submitting & will do it, & he also said that as there is no underlying medical reason for sudden death (she didn't smoke or drink & had no heart disease) there will have to be a post mortem and (quite rightly) he is unable to provide an interim death certificate.
Her death may or may not be linked to this third vaccine, we will hopefully get answers after the post mortem. However - they won't have used aspiration to check that they didn't hit a blood vessel (I know this because I forced them to do it when I very reluctantly had the second AZ - under coercion because I needed to travel internationally). Not aspirating increases the risk of hitting a blood vessel & this has been shown to increase risk of adverse effects:
I tweeted briefly about this on Monday (focusing mainly on the shocking lack of compliance with the power of attorney & not saying one way or another what I believe cause of death to be - because of course we won't possibly know until the post mortem is done) and had my first ever tweet in 13 years go viral (89,000) impressions. By far most of the responses were sympathetic but sadly yesterday it got picked up by zealots and I received a lot of abuse. Including from someone who claimed to be an NHS consultant and who repeatedly stated I was obviously making up the death of my mother! Even after I replied providing details of questions & information the funeral director was discussing with me yesterday (sensitive information that is not publicly disclosed & you only know if you are bereaved & working with the funeral director) they weren't having it & continued to abuse me. I was so upset I deleted my account on the bad tempered blue avian site.
I have my own perfectly reasonable reasons for anonymity on social media & substacks (as I'm sure our maestro El Gato does!) - yet the trolls just persist in screaming that, ergo; everything one says is therefore untrue.
I AM OUTRAGED OVER THIS. First and foremost, my deepest condolences for the passing of your dearest mom. And a loving hug for you. They had NO right to touch your mom, none. I would be out of my mind. Please make sure you have an unbiased pathologist so no hanky panky goes on and they lie on the DC. This is absolutely gut wrenching. I pray it has nothing to do with the gene therapy, but if it does....please let us all know at that time what we can do to help you if you need support.
Thank you so much and will do. I am trying my best, we have no choice over pathologist selection here in the UK but the coroners are sometimes a brave lot so hopefully things will be done properly.
This is infuriating, especially the absolute disregard for the PoA. This is why I've been and will remain bloody-minded about how those who have perpetuated this wanton evil should be brought to justice.
I am truly sorry for your loss. Just know that you did everything in YOUR power to take care of your mother as best as possible.
Thank you very much. I know - putting POA in place in the UK is a complicated and sometimes expensive (if you use a lawyer - as we did to make sure it was all correct) process. You do all that and on multiple previous occasions remind the NHS that the POA is in place - then they just go and completely ignore it.
This would have been highly unlikely to happen in the UK prior to the debacle of the last 19 months. Previously we had a robust system that worked well. It's both infuriating and extremely frightening that medical ethics & compliance to the law still seem to be getting tossed out the window in some cases.
Yes this is one of the first things that infuriated me at the start of The Hysteria. Hearing about family and patient advocates being barred from appointments and overall being cut out of the process of advocating. Next was the DNRs placed on certain patients with "COVID concerns" cited as the excuse.
Oh interesting. I'm having my grandmother sign PoA forms tomorrow when I visit her. Here in the U.S. and the State of Illinois, a notary public has to witness the signing and then copies are given to a list of applicable institutions/people (doctors, banks, etc).
In our previous sane world, there was legal recourse. But all of these NPIs forced down our throats since March 2020 has run roughshod over the laws we had to protect us from these abuses.
Tis true. I never in my lifetime thought I would witness the world gone mad and the fanatics taking hold along with the corrupt in big tech, medicine, govt agencies, city govt's, our own docs and their staff, msm and fellow citizens and neighbors. It is just atrocious.
Second, I hope you're preparing a lawsuit and are closely monitoring the chain of custody of information from your mom's autopsy.
My dad is about your mum's age and I'm quite concerned for him as he is petrified of COVID and will take any vaccine put in front of him, no questions asked, for eternity (however briefly that is).
I am enraged the NHS ignored your medical custodianship and assaulted your mum.
Thank you very much, I am indeed considering my legal options.
I am arranging this for my dad - T cell immunity test. Then he can make his own mind up about the 3rd vaccine although obviously I have POA for him too and this time I WILL have the final say.
GPs clinic said they could do the blood draw so I've driven 100 miles today (I don't live near him) but when we got there the jobsworth practice nurse refused to do it 🤦♀️ No matter - I will get it done in a private clinic.
I am feeling your pain and anger and offer the most sincere condolences. May she rest in eternal peace. What is happening inside nursing homes (globally) is beyond outrageous and inhumane. My 85 yo mother had mid stage ALZ (NY) and no comorbidities. Perfectly physically healthy. Walking, babbling, singing, laughing, pushing, shoving, feeding herself. First Pfizer vax late December and 2nd in mid January. By mid Feb, she was in wheelchair and being fed, and declined quickly, and dead by early May. I got about only 4-5 visits x 45 min each, in between never-ending covid-positive diagnoses followed by mandatory lockdowns. Had to BATTLE for these “compassionate visits” using atty and also ombudsman. On her death cert ? 1) general debility, and 2) ALZ dementia. My anger knows no bounds.
This is a sacrilege. Your dear mom declining so quickly and it is this gene therapy-I have no doubt. My heart hurts so much for you and my anger is seething reading your story and Tar-Ancalime's above. No one should have to fight to see their parent in a skilled facility. I am starting to believe (and I DID NOT want to go here) but the plan to keep the elderly isolated, no family to advocate. Bring in Covid and no early tx when it was out there and then the jabs. Depopulation, Eugenics.....they will hide this to the day they day but there are more atrocities like this out there, we do not know the half of it. Fudging death certs, lying and blaming other things. How will family ever have any peace? Cuomo and his 11K in nursing homes. I am livid beyond all get out. This has to be avenged. I pray it is one day. I am so sorry for what you had to suffer and your sweet mom, just heartbreaking.
Thank you so much for your kind words. Yes, my mom's NH was under Cuomo rule. And NH admins and RNs et al were drunk with their power to keep families out of the NH. Every single day, even when they were covid free. Once I fought my way in to get my hands on her, I found her in disgusting medical condition. NEGLECT ! Details that I will spare you... One good thing, the NH admin "resigned" only 2 weeks after my mom died. I like to think my 3 complaints to the NY DOH contributed to that. And they now have a better visit policy. They KNOW family eyes are scrutinizing them. I will never get over what cruelty they perpetuated in the last year of my beloved mother's life, severely isolating her from her family .. when they did not have to... and I shudder to think what would happen if she were still alive, with these endless boosters, and also forced staffer vaxes that are probably creating God knows what new variants.
Oh no, she was in NY. I detest that man. What he has done is unforgivable and he has not paid enough. I can't even imagine the neglect. You trusted the staff to care for her and allow her dignity. I am so angry over this. None of our seniors should ever be left in such detestable condition. My heart literally is in pain over this. They should have been fired and flogged for their corruption and gross insensitivity toward your mom and all in that NH. I hope the families get together and put a class action lawsuit together for this deplorable situation. Justice has not been served for all the blessed Souls that have passed or that are still there and suffered through the conditions. This is a travesty beyond the pale. I have such vengeance in me to have those punished and their lives permanently damaged. There needs to be long term consequences for what they did. The only consolation is someday further on, you will be reunited with Mom, and then forever. Sending you thoughts and prayers for comfort and peace and a large loving hug.
Thank you very much for your kind words. I am so sorry for the loss of your dear mother and how she deteriorated after the vaccine; and how you had to battle for visits. It makes you feel so powerless as the family.
I also had a similar problem with visits sometimes although to be fair it was quite clear the care home manager and staff were infuriated by the rules requiring constant testing of residents (who hardly ever go anywhere!) and the resulting lockdowns every time someone had a positive test. In the last few weeks they had started ignoring the rules when this scenario happened and letting me in - recognising that I had such a long way to drive each time & that I was going straight to her room (that she chose not to ever leave even though we had all tried to encourage her to). The manager was also pulling her hair out about the UK government's decision to force care home workers to be sacked if they won't be vaccinated. I gave her some legal resources for lawyers fighting this atrocity (loss of bodily autonomy & informed consent). There are a lot of good people working in care homes & going into people's homes to deliver care (my dad has this) who don't agree with everything that is going on.
You were lucky they had a conscience. Admins and staffers were TYRANTS in my mom's NH. They actually kicked me OUT of facility after I overstayed one visit by 1 hr, when it was clear my mos would die within the week. And she did.
I am so sorry for your loss. They had absolutely no authority to do anything without your informed consent.
I find it sad that the arguments and hate directed at you had nothing to do with the heinous eschewing of informed consent. Even if NHS mandated vaccines for residents in care homes you should have been afforded the option to refuse and make alternative living arrangements. I hope you are able to get justice. Godspeed.
Thank you so much for your kind comments. Yes after so much support on Mon & Tues - Wed night was absolutely surreal with the twitter flaming -because a supposed NHS consultant led it. I'd had enough & deleted the account before it got any worse.
The incredibly sad thing is, we wouldn't have had to make alternative living arrangements - it was the NHS who went into the care home & gave all the residents the third covid vaccination. Being vaccinated was not a condition of her living there (at £700 a week I might add - which she was self funding until her savings dropped below £23k). We shall see what the coroner investigates & concludes regarding the shocking lack of compliance to power of attorney - regardless of what the autopsy ends up saying cause of death is.
That NHS piece of crap needs to be flogged until he/she cant sit down for a year. Hiding behind their gross negligence and agenda. All this is beyond revolting. There are just no words.
Thank you very much. I know, its just all so dreadful isn't it. There are signs though that the tide is turning, more people are waking up and there will eventually be a massive blow back. These wise words gave me comfort this week:
Your analysis is always so good, but your analogies are even better. I will be incorporating shark attacks in IL into my discussions with friends and family. Hopefully you won’t require a licensing fee. I do promise to attribute it to this surly feline that I follow.
One thing absolutely everyone needs to be accustomed to doing is taking with a grain of salt any information reported that either:
-Discloses only relative numbers without the magnitude, or
-Discloses only the magnitude but no relative/context
You need both.
That study from Kentucky a couple months back, which the CDC tried to use to shill vaccines for the naturally immune, made much of the 2.34x increased likelihood of reinfection if you don't get vaccinated... nowhere to be found was the absolute risk reduction. It is hard to attribute that to innocent oversight. And that doesn't even go into failure to confirm via sequencing, symptomatic vs. asymptomatic, likelihood of severe infection...
Completely dishonest study. The CDC used a cohort of less than 1000 people in a community in KY - cherry-picked for desired outcome (how about the other few hundred million people in this country???) - and only discussed relative risk reduction. Oh, and then the press misstated the results as natural immunity vs vaccination and left out the whole prior infection part.
For the same reason they did a poor study on HCQ, to eliminate competition for the leaky vaccines. They're also removing peer-reviewed articles that present evidence of cardiovascular injuries (check out Dr. McCullough's article removed by Elsevier). There is evil intent. This is malpractice.
>>note that, oddly, there seems to be no accounting for the 14 days post dose 2. it seems not to be tracked or broken out and i’m really not sure where that data goes (if anywhere).
I actually learned about this in research methodology class aeons ago.
It goes in the "circular file," which is where you're supposed to put data that does not support your position.
Immediately after the second dose is when most Adverse Events, including deaths, occur. Disappearing these stats into the circular file would be an efficient method of "cleaning" the data. Put one's best foot forward, and all that...
The way the narrative pushers are touting the vaccine benefits for everyone is beyond the pale. As a healthy 48 year old when the pandemic started I felt that by summer of 2020 I had a good grasp of the threat covid posed to me. It was a number I could live with. Nothing has changed since then.
Any degree of improvement on my chance of dying doesn't change the small chance it was to begin with. I shake my head at all the news articles claiming vaccinated are 10-12 times less likely to die. Who cares. My chance is small without the vaccine, so why would I want to inject myself with a vaccine who's safety data profile is so muddled and new that it's hard to grasp what my chances are of incurring short or long term negative side effects. All for the benefit of a few extra chances in a thousand of not dying? Hard pass.
We're in the same age group. Unvaxxed IFR is 0.3%. Vaxxed IFR is 0.05%. That means our REAL risk reduction is 0.25%. And, as you mention, the deaths will be HEAVILLY skewed toward the unhealthy. A healthy person in this age group gets even less protection.
The Biden White House is preparing to mass vaccinate 5-11 yos. We already know what the fda will say for the eua and parents will run to it. We are living in frightening times ! What can be done? I feel so helpless.
Given that nobody can have long term data on the mRNA technology, the FDA should never approve use in those at no risk from the illness. The rushed approvals for those at risk, mainly seniors, can make sense because their long term isn't 50+ years. Is the science behind the technology that well developed?
We should never use any treatment with questionable safety and no meaningful benefit. It makes no sense. Particularly among those who are health and/or had prior infection where there is no real benefit at all. As an option for those with severe disease, immunocompromised, etc.? Sure, that is a different discussion.
Be sure to read The Bad Cat's efficacy analysis of the Pfizer vax for 5-11 year olds. It's easy to understand and can be sent to anyone who needs to know the risks.
I am less pessimistic that you appear to be. Many will jab their young'uns out of the fear you mention, but also many welcome information that gives them facts to counter the government/media spin and make the correct decisions.
Another good but infuriating article. When you mention how messy and skewed towards the vaccines the data is, it brings to mind my own school district, where we have to vaccinate or submit to weekly testing, and our health department has specifically said, "don't test the vaccinated, don't contact trace the vaccinated, and don't even tell us if there is a case of breakthrough infection." But for the unvaccinated, they are requiring you report your name, address, phone number, gender, racial grouping, age and test result each week, even if the test is negative. Some brilliant public health policy here in Michigan.
Boy, this is a muddy mess of data about to get worse. Will now have prior infection, primary vaccination with one of the three vaccines (and incomplete 2 shot series), mixed and matched boosters (and those that don't get a booster) as well as prior infection status all as variables.
Quite a rubiks cube that will only help the powers that be. Any attempt to argue against vaccination will deal with a swirling headwind of terrible data.
Great stuff. One must consider the social dynamics in why people are pushing vaccines. They don't stop spread (we know that) and they're obviously not useful for kids, teens and really 20-somethings at all, but that doesn't really matter in that they are a demonstration of "doing anything at all to protect elites." https://empathy.guru/2021/08/22/elite-risk-minimization-and-covid-empathy-in-the-time-of-coronavirus-ix/
Are the "donut hole" people being lumped into the category of "Received one dose, > 21 days before specimen date" as if the second dose simply doesn't count as a dose until the 14 days have elapsed? That would be tricky bordering on maniacal, but maybe it would also explain the high positive test rates among the "partially vaxxed", due to the 14 day worry window.
I am 64 and healthy. When I read the jabs contain PEG, I already decided this was not for me. Years ago I worked in the lab and read the fact sheets. The chemist told me then already that PEGs should not be used. I avoid them in shampoos. They are made of very poisonous, explosive and flammable gasses and this spring I read a consumer article, that states half of the tested shampoos still contained remnants of the poisonous components. And have that jabbed into my arm? No way. Both Pfizer and Moderna have the PEG, JandJ has another variety, but it is a PEG too. I will trust my godgiven body to fight it if I get it. Hell I might already have gotten it! So many people seem to get it and only have a cold or very mild flu.
I remember some people trying to give me absolute hell for pointing out absolute risk reductions versus relative risk in the data for initial EUA approval. In the entire 45,000 or so in the study, maybe a single digit percentage was potentially exposed during the course of the study. That left an awful lot of people with no true benefit.
So then we do have to factor in time. We can assume that over time more people will be exposed to weren't exposed in the initial time period of the study. The catch-22 here is the waiting efficacy of the vaccine. It would be reasonable to assume that a large chunk of the people in the study would never actually benefit from the vaccine because they were never exposed before the efficacy wanes.
CDC data seems to be showing significantly more cases per 100K for unvaccinated than vaccinated. Your UK data seems to show the opposite. Any thoughts on why thesame pattern is not seen in the US? https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
And there's also the undertesting (unvaccinated and asymptomatic) and overtesting
school kids, people who have to get tested for travel/work).
One would thing that something as seemingly simple as testing methodology and data collection would be the easiest thing to do (among all crazy things that have been tried) and a priority.
CDC made a choice to really not follow any breakthrough infections, although they are probably regretting that now.
They were only testing vaccinated people *if* they exhibited symptoms. At the same time they significantly changed the PCR test cycle count (ie, you needed way more viral material
to test positive if you were vaccinated)
This was either made
a) because they believed that vaccines are so effective that breakthrough doesn't happen and vaccinated don't transmit
b) they wanted to obfuscate
I don't know which case is worse: incompetence or deceit?
This is all we ever got out of the "vaccine" gene therapy. A very modest improvement in the severity of a disease that killed almost no one in the first place, and would probably have killed next to nobody if we had focused on treatment. For this, we brought down the boot of authoritarianism and economic ruin on a generation.
And after a bit of antigenic drift, the "modest improvement" is likely to flip the other way and the vaccine will be more dangerous than not.
Unfortunately it will be a few years before most of this dawns on most people and we have to bide our time in a world of gaslit insanity until then.
I had always known that fear has been used as a tool to control populations, but the extent to which a population willingly succumbs to fear has been quite astounding to watch. I see people who have been in a heightened state of fear for 18+ months now, and their minds are closed to reason and knowledge to the contrary of the lies they have been fed.
Sums it all up perfectly. THIS! Thanks Eric.
not if we say no. dont touch our children, over my dead body and if that is what it takes, so be it. what parent will not give up everythng to protect their children and this gene therapy is a lethal cocktail.
There seem to be a lot of parents ready and anxious to get their kids jabbed.
Fear and ignorance.
the propaganda machine is alive and well.
I know and it is giving me apoplexy.
I just wrote letters and signed a few petitions just now through Stand for Health Freedom. One of the petitions going straight to DC if for stopping the gene therapy jabs for children. I was pretty curt on the letter and let them know they are not fooling any of us of what the wicked intentions they have. Just wrote to Senators and Congress people as well and to the FDA. Stand for Health Freedom is an excellent organization. You can find the petitions there. WE have to save our children from this wickedness.
Also, even if someone is in an area that has gone full totalitarian, and parents need to clot up their children to eat...none of us have to be first in line. Let the idiots march right down to the vaccination centers and shoot up their kids, we can sit back and see what happens from that experiment. If there are widespread immediate problems the program may be halted or mitigated. If there are not, then we can improve the long term odds for ours with nutrition and other prep before and after the shot.
Only a short time ago, 106 children were hospitalized in Canada after receiving their jab. Need more info?
exactly and for a jab they do not need. and what happens months or years from now? sterility, autoimmune issues? This is making me sick to me stomach.
This is not all that dissimilar to some other vaccines. Look at the rate of side effects/long term complications from HPV vaccines and then compare that with the lifetime incidences of cancers caused by HPV viruses.
Yes, I have heard some horror stories on the HPV vax.
with little needles for little arms
let the govt officials, technocrats, fauci and his ilk, newsom and his ilk volunteer their kids first (which pains me to say) and see how that works out for them. But wonder if they would cheat that and put sterile saline in a syringe and inject that instead preventing any dangers to their children.
Does seem to be the case…
Brilliant documentation about the goal:
https://youtu.be/hSB9iNL8Vr8
El Gato thank you as ever for all your incredible hard work.
My mum (84, early stage Alzheimers & dementia but no other underlying serious co-morbidities) died suddenly on Monday. When I got to the care home on the day, the first thing they told me was that the NHS had gone in on Friday & vaccinated all the residents with the 3rd covid (Pfizer my mum will likely have had) vaccine. I hold full health and welfare power of attorney because she didn't have capacity. No-one told me and no-one asked my permission. It doesn't matter what medical procedure it was - this wilful ignoring of POA and giving a medical procedure to someone without capacity & therefore in the absence of informed consent - is unacceptable.
Spoke to the GP who agrees a yellow card report needs submitting & will do it, & he also said that as there is no underlying medical reason for sudden death (she didn't smoke or drink & had no heart disease) there will have to be a post mortem and (quite rightly) he is unable to provide an interim death certificate.
Her death may or may not be linked to this third vaccine, we will hopefully get answers after the post mortem. However - they won't have used aspiration to check that they didn't hit a blood vessel (I know this because I forced them to do it when I very reluctantly had the second AZ - under coercion because I needed to travel internationally). Not aspirating increases the risk of hitting a blood vessel & this has been shown to increase risk of adverse effects:
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/09/04/why-isnt-this-simple-step-to-reduce-the-risk-of-blood-clots-after-vaccination-not-followed/
I tweeted briefly about this on Monday (focusing mainly on the shocking lack of compliance with the power of attorney & not saying one way or another what I believe cause of death to be - because of course we won't possibly know until the post mortem is done) and had my first ever tweet in 13 years go viral (89,000) impressions. By far most of the responses were sympathetic but sadly yesterday it got picked up by zealots and I received a lot of abuse. Including from someone who claimed to be an NHS consultant and who repeatedly stated I was obviously making up the death of my mother! Even after I replied providing details of questions & information the funeral director was discussing with me yesterday (sensitive information that is not publicly disclosed & you only know if you are bereaved & working with the funeral director) they weren't having it & continued to abuse me. I was so upset I deleted my account on the bad tempered blue avian site.
I have my own perfectly reasonable reasons for anonymity on social media & substacks (as I'm sure our maestro El Gato does!) - yet the trolls just persist in screaming that, ergo; everything one says is therefore untrue.
I AM OUTRAGED OVER THIS. First and foremost, my deepest condolences for the passing of your dearest mom. And a loving hug for you. They had NO right to touch your mom, none. I would be out of my mind. Please make sure you have an unbiased pathologist so no hanky panky goes on and they lie on the DC. This is absolutely gut wrenching. I pray it has nothing to do with the gene therapy, but if it does....please let us all know at that time what we can do to help you if you need support.
Thank you so much and will do. I am trying my best, we have no choice over pathologist selection here in the UK but the coroners are sometimes a brave lot so hopefully things will be done properly.
I pray so as well. May he/she be lead by morals, ethics and truth.
This is infuriating, especially the absolute disregard for the PoA. This is why I've been and will remain bloody-minded about how those who have perpetuated this wanton evil should be brought to justice.
I am truly sorry for your loss. Just know that you did everything in YOUR power to take care of your mother as best as possible.
Thank you very much. I know - putting POA in place in the UK is a complicated and sometimes expensive (if you use a lawyer - as we did to make sure it was all correct) process. You do all that and on multiple previous occasions remind the NHS that the POA is in place - then they just go and completely ignore it.
This would have been highly unlikely to happen in the UK prior to the debacle of the last 19 months. Previously we had a robust system that worked well. It's both infuriating and extremely frightening that medical ethics & compliance to the law still seem to be getting tossed out the window in some cases.
And imagine what they are capable of for those without an advocate or family. My heart is just sick over all this.
Yes this is one of the first things that infuriated me at the start of The Hysteria. Hearing about family and patient advocates being barred from appointments and overall being cut out of the process of advocating. Next was the DNRs placed on certain patients with "COVID concerns" cited as the excuse.
Beyond despicable, there is really no apt adjective to describe what is taking place. Heads need to roll if we ever get out of this sinister quagmire.
Oh interesting. I'm having my grandmother sign PoA forms tomorrow when I visit her. Here in the U.S. and the State of Illinois, a notary public has to witness the signing and then copies are given to a list of applicable institutions/people (doctors, banks, etc).
And pray the list of the applicable have not been seduced by the Incubi and Succubi.
There has to be legal recourse for that. How can you go in and do whatever you want to people? Is this Nazi Germany all over again.....
In our previous sane world, there was legal recourse. But all of these NPIs forced down our throats since March 2020 has run roughshod over the laws we had to protect us from these abuses.
Tis true. I never in my lifetime thought I would witness the world gone mad and the fanatics taking hold along with the corrupt in big tech, medicine, govt agencies, city govt's, our own docs and their staff, msm and fellow citizens and neighbors. It is just atrocious.
First, my condolences.
Second, I hope you're preparing a lawsuit and are closely monitoring the chain of custody of information from your mom's autopsy.
My dad is about your mum's age and I'm quite concerned for him as he is petrified of COVID and will take any vaccine put in front of him, no questions asked, for eternity (however briefly that is).
I am enraged the NHS ignored your medical custodianship and assaulted your mum.
Thank you very much, I am indeed considering my legal options.
I am arranging this for my dad - T cell immunity test. Then he can make his own mind up about the 3rd vaccine although obviously I have POA for him too and this time I WILL have the final say.
https://privateharleystreetclinic.com/products/t-spot-covid-test?gclid=CjwKCAjwn8SLBhAyEiwAHNTJbT1KA4_baLSV_CI9Fg5dWyWiReFGy0rGYeSd8GKsi6NJ1gsZefP2LBoCdukQAvD_BwE
GPs clinic said they could do the blood draw so I've driven 100 miles today (I don't live near him) but when we got there the jobsworth practice nurse refused to do it 🤦♀️ No matter - I will get it done in a private clinic.
My very best wishes to you and your dad.
the pos nurse would not help you. i am so fed up with these ignorant medical bobbleheads. this is extra stress you dont need.
I am feeling your pain and anger and offer the most sincere condolences. May she rest in eternal peace. What is happening inside nursing homes (globally) is beyond outrageous and inhumane. My 85 yo mother had mid stage ALZ (NY) and no comorbidities. Perfectly physically healthy. Walking, babbling, singing, laughing, pushing, shoving, feeding herself. First Pfizer vax late December and 2nd in mid January. By mid Feb, she was in wheelchair and being fed, and declined quickly, and dead by early May. I got about only 4-5 visits x 45 min each, in between never-ending covid-positive diagnoses followed by mandatory lockdowns. Had to BATTLE for these “compassionate visits” using atty and also ombudsman. On her death cert ? 1) general debility, and 2) ALZ dementia. My anger knows no bounds.
This is a sacrilege. Your dear mom declining so quickly and it is this gene therapy-I have no doubt. My heart hurts so much for you and my anger is seething reading your story and Tar-Ancalime's above. No one should have to fight to see their parent in a skilled facility. I am starting to believe (and I DID NOT want to go here) but the plan to keep the elderly isolated, no family to advocate. Bring in Covid and no early tx when it was out there and then the jabs. Depopulation, Eugenics.....they will hide this to the day they day but there are more atrocities like this out there, we do not know the half of it. Fudging death certs, lying and blaming other things. How will family ever have any peace? Cuomo and his 11K in nursing homes. I am livid beyond all get out. This has to be avenged. I pray it is one day. I am so sorry for what you had to suffer and your sweet mom, just heartbreaking.
Thank you so much for your kind words. Yes, my mom's NH was under Cuomo rule. And NH admins and RNs et al were drunk with their power to keep families out of the NH. Every single day, even when they were covid free. Once I fought my way in to get my hands on her, I found her in disgusting medical condition. NEGLECT ! Details that I will spare you... One good thing, the NH admin "resigned" only 2 weeks after my mom died. I like to think my 3 complaints to the NY DOH contributed to that. And they now have a better visit policy. They KNOW family eyes are scrutinizing them. I will never get over what cruelty they perpetuated in the last year of my beloved mother's life, severely isolating her from her family .. when they did not have to... and I shudder to think what would happen if she were still alive, with these endless boosters, and also forced staffer vaxes that are probably creating God knows what new variants.
Oh no, she was in NY. I detest that man. What he has done is unforgivable and he has not paid enough. I can't even imagine the neglect. You trusted the staff to care for her and allow her dignity. I am so angry over this. None of our seniors should ever be left in such detestable condition. My heart literally is in pain over this. They should have been fired and flogged for their corruption and gross insensitivity toward your mom and all in that NH. I hope the families get together and put a class action lawsuit together for this deplorable situation. Justice has not been served for all the blessed Souls that have passed or that are still there and suffered through the conditions. This is a travesty beyond the pale. I have such vengeance in me to have those punished and their lives permanently damaged. There needs to be long term consequences for what they did. The only consolation is someday further on, you will be reunited with Mom, and then forever. Sending you thoughts and prayers for comfort and peace and a large loving hug.
Thank you very much for your kind words. I am so sorry for the loss of your dear mother and how she deteriorated after the vaccine; and how you had to battle for visits. It makes you feel so powerless as the family.
I also had a similar problem with visits sometimes although to be fair it was quite clear the care home manager and staff were infuriated by the rules requiring constant testing of residents (who hardly ever go anywhere!) and the resulting lockdowns every time someone had a positive test. In the last few weeks they had started ignoring the rules when this scenario happened and letting me in - recognising that I had such a long way to drive each time & that I was going straight to her room (that she chose not to ever leave even though we had all tried to encourage her to). The manager was also pulling her hair out about the UK government's decision to force care home workers to be sacked if they won't be vaccinated. I gave her some legal resources for lawyers fighting this atrocity (loss of bodily autonomy & informed consent). There are a lot of good people working in care homes & going into people's homes to deliver care (my dad has this) who don't agree with everything that is going on.
You were lucky they had a conscience. Admins and staffers were TYRANTS in my mom's NH. They actually kicked me OUT of facility after I overstayed one visit by 1 hr, when it was clear my mos would die within the week. And she did.
I am sorry for your loss. Horrible to see helpless elders abused like they did to your grandma.
Oh my gods...😠
I am so sorry for your loss. They had absolutely no authority to do anything without your informed consent.
I find it sad that the arguments and hate directed at you had nothing to do with the heinous eschewing of informed consent. Even if NHS mandated vaccines for residents in care homes you should have been afforded the option to refuse and make alternative living arrangements. I hope you are able to get justice. Godspeed.
Thank you so much for your kind comments. Yes after so much support on Mon & Tues - Wed night was absolutely surreal with the twitter flaming -because a supposed NHS consultant led it. I'd had enough & deleted the account before it got any worse.
The incredibly sad thing is, we wouldn't have had to make alternative living arrangements - it was the NHS who went into the care home & gave all the residents the third covid vaccination. Being vaccinated was not a condition of her living there (at £700 a week I might add - which she was self funding until her savings dropped below £23k). We shall see what the coroner investigates & concludes regarding the shocking lack of compliance to power of attorney - regardless of what the autopsy ends up saying cause of death is.
That NHS piece of crap needs to be flogged until he/she cant sit down for a year. Hiding behind their gross negligence and agenda. All this is beyond revolting. There are just no words.
I am sorry for your loss. So terrible!
Thank you very much. I know, its just all so dreadful isn't it. There are signs though that the tide is turning, more people are waking up and there will eventually be a massive blow back. These wise words gave me comfort this week:
https://youtu.be/cunig-kqeOs
https://youtu.be/FpDJ7naS__Y
Your analysis is always so good, but your analogies are even better. I will be incorporating shark attacks in IL into my discussions with friends and family. Hopefully you won’t require a licensing fee. I do promise to attribute it to this surly feline that I follow.
shark week is for everyone.
One thing absolutely everyone needs to be accustomed to doing is taking with a grain of salt any information reported that either:
-Discloses only relative numbers without the magnitude, or
-Discloses only the magnitude but no relative/context
You need both.
That study from Kentucky a couple months back, which the CDC tried to use to shill vaccines for the naturally immune, made much of the 2.34x increased likelihood of reinfection if you don't get vaccinated... nowhere to be found was the absolute risk reduction. It is hard to attribute that to innocent oversight. And that doesn't even go into failure to confirm via sequencing, symptomatic vs. asymptomatic, likelihood of severe infection...
Completely dishonest study. The CDC used a cohort of less than 1000 people in a community in KY - cherry-picked for desired outcome (how about the other few hundred million people in this country???) - and only discussed relative risk reduction. Oh, and then the press misstated the results as natural immunity vs vaccination and left out the whole prior infection part.
I'm sorry to say even my local health department similarly failed to contextualize it properly.
The KY study has been wrongly used by the CDC, they know better yet don't seem interested in getting the analysis redone. The question is why?
For the same reason they did a poor study on HCQ, to eliminate competition for the leaky vaccines. They're also removing peer-reviewed articles that present evidence of cardiovascular injuries (check out Dr. McCullough's article removed by Elsevier). There is evil intent. This is malpractice.
>>note that, oddly, there seems to be no accounting for the 14 days post dose 2. it seems not to be tracked or broken out and i’m really not sure where that data goes (if anywhere).
I actually learned about this in research methodology class aeons ago.
It goes in the "circular file," which is where you're supposed to put data that does not support your position.
Hope this helps.
Immediately after the second dose is when most Adverse Events, including deaths, occur. Disappearing these stats into the circular file would be an efficient method of "cleaning" the data. Put one's best foot forward, and all that...
Wouldn't the <14 days post dose 2 count under the single dose >21 days?
If you're not unjabbed and you're not double-jabbed until 14 days after the 2nd dose then you must be single-jabbed.
I don't think you're accurately reflecting the metric.
You are not COUNTED as "fully vaccinated" until 2 weeks after your second dose.
This does not mean that a person the day after their second dose is the same set of conditions as a person 8 days after their first dose.
Simply ignoring that these are two different cohorts does not make them the same- it is willful misrepresentation of data.
On the first graph (covid cases per 100k) the vertical axis caption is wrong. It says deaths when it should say cases.
fixed.
thank you.
Also, title of that graph says, “weeks 37-14 2021”
The way the narrative pushers are touting the vaccine benefits for everyone is beyond the pale. As a healthy 48 year old when the pandemic started I felt that by summer of 2020 I had a good grasp of the threat covid posed to me. It was a number I could live with. Nothing has changed since then.
Any degree of improvement on my chance of dying doesn't change the small chance it was to begin with. I shake my head at all the news articles claiming vaccinated are 10-12 times less likely to die. Who cares. My chance is small without the vaccine, so why would I want to inject myself with a vaccine who's safety data profile is so muddled and new that it's hard to grasp what my chances are of incurring short or long term negative side effects. All for the benefit of a few extra chances in a thousand of not dying? Hard pass.
We're in the same age group. Unvaxxed IFR is 0.3%. Vaxxed IFR is 0.05%. That means our REAL risk reduction is 0.25%. And, as you mention, the deaths will be HEAVILLY skewed toward the unhealthy. A healthy person in this age group gets even less protection.
The Biden White House is preparing to mass vaccinate 5-11 yos. We already know what the fda will say for the eua and parents will run to it. We are living in frightening times ! What can be done? I feel so helpless.
Given that nobody can have long term data on the mRNA technology, the FDA should never approve use in those at no risk from the illness. The rushed approvals for those at risk, mainly seniors, can make sense because their long term isn't 50+ years. Is the science behind the technology that well developed?
We should never use any treatment with questionable safety and no meaningful benefit. It makes no sense. Particularly among those who are health and/or had prior infection where there is no real benefit at all. As an option for those with severe disease, immunocompromised, etc.? Sure, that is a different discussion.
Be sure to read The Bad Cat's efficacy analysis of the Pfizer vax for 5-11 year olds. It's easy to understand and can be sent to anyone who needs to know the risks.
People don’t care . Fear is powerful incentive
I am less pessimistic that you appear to be. Many will jab their young'uns out of the fear you mention, but also many welcome information that gives them facts to counter the government/media spin and make the correct decisions.
Another good but infuriating article. When you mention how messy and skewed towards the vaccines the data is, it brings to mind my own school district, where we have to vaccinate or submit to weekly testing, and our health department has specifically said, "don't test the vaccinated, don't contact trace the vaccinated, and don't even tell us if there is a case of breakthrough infection." But for the unvaccinated, they are requiring you report your name, address, phone number, gender, racial grouping, age and test result each week, even if the test is negative. Some brilliant public health policy here in Michigan.
Some of it is county level. For instance Ingham is under much more control and scrutiny than many other counties within the mitten state.
It’s not medical malpractice, it’s something far worse.
Great work, Gato.
Boy, this is a muddy mess of data about to get worse. Will now have prior infection, primary vaccination with one of the three vaccines (and incomplete 2 shot series), mixed and matched boosters (and those that don't get a booster) as well as prior infection status all as variables.
Quite a rubiks cube that will only help the powers that be. Any attempt to argue against vaccination will deal with a swirling headwind of terrible data.
Great stuff. One must consider the social dynamics in why people are pushing vaccines. They don't stop spread (we know that) and they're obviously not useful for kids, teens and really 20-somethings at all, but that doesn't really matter in that they are a demonstration of "doing anything at all to protect elites." https://empathy.guru/2021/08/22/elite-risk-minimization-and-covid-empathy-in-the-time-of-coronavirus-ix/
Are the "donut hole" people being lumped into the category of "Received one dose, > 21 days before specimen date" as if the second dose simply doesn't count as a dose until the 14 days have elapsed? That would be tricky bordering on maniacal, but maybe it would also explain the high positive test rates among the "partially vaxxed", due to the 14 day worry window.
I am 64 and healthy. When I read the jabs contain PEG, I already decided this was not for me. Years ago I worked in the lab and read the fact sheets. The chemist told me then already that PEGs should not be used. I avoid them in shampoos. They are made of very poisonous, explosive and flammable gasses and this spring I read a consumer article, that states half of the tested shampoos still contained remnants of the poisonous components. And have that jabbed into my arm? No way. Both Pfizer and Moderna have the PEG, JandJ has another variety, but it is a PEG too. I will trust my godgiven body to fight it if I get it. Hell I might already have gotten it! So many people seem to get it and only have a cold or very mild flu.
I remember some people trying to give me absolute hell for pointing out absolute risk reductions versus relative risk in the data for initial EUA approval. In the entire 45,000 or so in the study, maybe a single digit percentage was potentially exposed during the course of the study. That left an awful lot of people with no true benefit.
So then we do have to factor in time. We can assume that over time more people will be exposed to weren't exposed in the initial time period of the study. The catch-22 here is the waiting efficacy of the vaccine. It would be reasonable to assume that a large chunk of the people in the study would never actually benefit from the vaccine because they were never exposed before the efficacy wanes.
Good point they should have continued testing and done tracing and isolated those who have been exposed and then done the calculations.
CDC data seems to be showing significantly more cases per 100K for unvaccinated than vaccinated. Your UK data seems to show the opposite. Any thoughts on why thesame pattern is not seen in the US? https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
the CDC data does not look trustworthy to me. they seem to be aggressively manipulating definitions, and data collection standards.
it does not match any data i have seen from any country (like UK or israel) that is playing it stright.
some of the canadian provinces look to be acting similarly to the CDC.
the data is a mess
And there's also the undertesting (unvaccinated and asymptomatic) and overtesting
school kids, people who have to get tested for travel/work).
One would thing that something as seemingly simple as testing methodology and data collection would be the easiest thing to do (among all crazy things that have been tried) and a priority.
CDC made a choice to really not follow any breakthrough infections, although they are probably regretting that now.
They were only testing vaccinated people *if* they exhibited symptoms. At the same time they significantly changed the PCR test cycle count (ie, you needed way more viral material
to test positive if you were vaccinated)
This was either made
a) because they believed that vaccines are so effective that breakthrough doesn't happen and vaccinated don't transmit
b) they wanted to obfuscate
I don't know which case is worse: incompetence or deceit?