In 2016, 104 people had died from the measles vaccine since 2000. Measles itself has a death rate of 1 or 2 in 1000. (https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_deaths_from_vaccination_outnumber_deaths_caused_by_measles) You do the math. How many MMR shots do we give out to children every year? Yes, the measles vaccine saves lives. This is t…
In 2016, 104 people had died from the measles vaccine since 2000. Measles itself has a death rate of 1 or 2 in 1000. (https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_deaths_from_vaccination_outnumber_deaths_caused_by_measles) You do the math. How many MMR shots do we give out to children every year? Yes, the measles vaccine saves lives. This is the problem. One one side, I have to deal with the all vaccines are perfect crowd, so we can't question any vaccine, including a rushed one that is definitely costing lives. And then on the other, I have to deal with people who think every vaccine is bad, even though we have clearly been saving people, in particular children, with these vaccines. Both groups give me a migraine.
Yes, I have done the math. I also have had measles. The math is clear: by the time the measles vaccine was rolled out in 1963, mortality from measles already had declined from 13.3 per 100K to .2 per 100K. Interestingly, 15 years after the vaccine was rolled out, young adults started getting measles again. We effectively became naturally immune, and then undid the decades of humoral immune system progress, by a mass vaccination campaign.
I think you are right. Of course it might be other strands of measles but if you are naturally immune through former sickness, your system adjusts. Vaccine immunity does not. I also read that mothers who had immunity give this to their babies, so that they are protected until about 1 year of age and have their own immune system. That makes the sickness less dangerous, too, I would think.
I am 71. Measles, The Mumps, and Chicken Pox were expected childhood rite of passage for us. Normal and no big deal. When Polio Vaccine campaign occurred, I remember being in a line, anxiously walking past a table with a large pile of glass and steel empty injections in an atmosphere that reeked of alcohol. I dreaded “shots” but my father herded us kids through the gauntlet because “it was necessary” and then it was done. Afterward, I turned and saw, to my amazement, he was himself not taking the shot!!! He seemed, after assuring us, to be afraid of it! LOL!!! A critical crack in my respect for authority that has only grown since then! Especially lately. Fundamentally, there is clearly a process of disinformation going on with “the statistics.” Therefore, RUN!!! So much for “risk assessment!” Figure it out, to be sure, but do it while you are running and warning everyone to RUN. That is my take. I am here hoping to see comments I saw yesterday. One was about the death (murder?) of a whistleblower chemist about GrapheNE Hydroxide in Germany. The other was some analysis of VAERS data which shows that only certain batches produced quick injuries/deaths and those batches were released by all three producers in a way that shows they were cooperating with each other and doing lethal dose testing. The video about this was on newtube. I think that it might have been done by the Great Dr. Michael Yeadon, who is a world hero for the exposure he has done already.
Thanks. I saw that raid but have not seen the rest of the story get filled in yet. Something about he was giving medical aid to people at a demonstration? I saw his presentation calling out some officials by name on the grapheNE hydroxide, which he had done his doctorate in specifically and was possibly the most knowledgeable authority in the world. He said the stuff was extremely sharp one atom thickness) so it would cut like a razor in the bloodstream. He speculated that the athletes were going down a lot because their blood was circulating so fast. He said that toxicologists would not be able to spot it because they were not looking for it and the nano-particles are too small for their usual inspection instruments to see. So there is a short list of people who have the motive- means-opportunity to pull this off. Thus maybe his sudden death?
I think if there is something to heal with, that is better than a vaccine. None of them cover fully and none of them are fully safe. That is why one should decide for oneself to take them or leave them. As for measles etc. I know they are far more dangerous when you are adult. So you could get in the middle and say, everyone who did not get measles by age 18, might want to get vaccinated. That sounds more reasonable than vaxx all and everyone, risking death or harm without a sickness.
You know the best cure for your migraine? Letting patients and parents of patients to decide for themselves and their children. If they ask for your advice, give it.
If you would read (I know that's difficult), you would see that I am anti-mandates. And people like you, who won't read, give me a bigger migraine. And don't come in conversations like this not expecting people to give opinions. Something else that gives me a migraine.
Haha. Yes reading is so difficult. But maybe it is just misunderstanding of tone. It doesn't matter which side of vax you fall on as a doc. If you wish to not be plagued with headaches, you don't get overly invested in the decision of each patient no? You, as an anti-mandater should allow yourself that arm's distance (versus getting all migrainy as we dunces might say) and allow those plebes to sort it for themselves. If they can read and process it that is. Cuz... we dum.
Yes, reading seems to be difficult for you. We were having a discussion about the efficacy of vaccines in general. I nowhere made mention of what I thought anyone else should do or be made to do. They claimed the vaccines in general are not effective and do more harm than good. I took issue with that based on empirical and statistical evidence, not to mention the fact that we don't have children dying of things like diphtheria and polio anymore, at least not in this country. So while I won't call you "dum," I will say that you perhaps need to do a bit more listening and a little less reacting.
In 2016, 104 people had died from the measles vaccine since 2000. Measles itself has a death rate of 1 or 2 in 1000. (https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Do_deaths_from_vaccination_outnumber_deaths_caused_by_measles) You do the math. How many MMR shots do we give out to children every year? Yes, the measles vaccine saves lives. This is the problem. One one side, I have to deal with the all vaccines are perfect crowd, so we can't question any vaccine, including a rushed one that is definitely costing lives. And then on the other, I have to deal with people who think every vaccine is bad, even though we have clearly been saving people, in particular children, with these vaccines. Both groups give me a migraine.
Yes, I have done the math. I also have had measles. The math is clear: by the time the measles vaccine was rolled out in 1963, mortality from measles already had declined from 13.3 per 100K to .2 per 100K. Interestingly, 15 years after the vaccine was rolled out, young adults started getting measles again. We effectively became naturally immune, and then undid the decades of humoral immune system progress, by a mass vaccination campaign.
I think you are right. Of course it might be other strands of measles but if you are naturally immune through former sickness, your system adjusts. Vaccine immunity does not. I also read that mothers who had immunity give this to their babies, so that they are protected until about 1 year of age and have their own immune system. That makes the sickness less dangerous, too, I would think.
I am 71. Measles, The Mumps, and Chicken Pox were expected childhood rite of passage for us. Normal and no big deal. When Polio Vaccine campaign occurred, I remember being in a line, anxiously walking past a table with a large pile of glass and steel empty injections in an atmosphere that reeked of alcohol. I dreaded “shots” but my father herded us kids through the gauntlet because “it was necessary” and then it was done. Afterward, I turned and saw, to my amazement, he was himself not taking the shot!!! He seemed, after assuring us, to be afraid of it! LOL!!! A critical crack in my respect for authority that has only grown since then! Especially lately. Fundamentally, there is clearly a process of disinformation going on with “the statistics.” Therefore, RUN!!! So much for “risk assessment!” Figure it out, to be sure, but do it while you are running and warning everyone to RUN. That is my take. I am here hoping to see comments I saw yesterday. One was about the death (murder?) of a whistleblower chemist about GrapheNE Hydroxide in Germany. The other was some analysis of VAERS data which shows that only certain batches produced quick injuries/deaths and those batches were released by all three producers in a way that shows they were cooperating with each other and doing lethal dose testing. The video about this was on newtube. I think that it might have been done by the Great Dr. Michael Yeadon, who is a world hero for the exposure he has done already.
Dr. Andreas Noack was the graphine hydroxide doctor who allegedly was just murdered. He was also the one who was raided by a SWAT team during a livestream. https://www.bitchute.com/video/yaAo6J92Kxp1/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/YuLTNsxBKYur/
Here's Dr. Yeadon's analysis of the 5% hot-shots- https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/01/dr-mike-yeadon-just-when-you-though-things-couldnt-get-any-worse/
Thanks. I saw that raid but have not seen the rest of the story get filled in yet. Something about he was giving medical aid to people at a demonstration? I saw his presentation calling out some officials by name on the grapheNE hydroxide, which he had done his doctorate in specifically and was possibly the most knowledgeable authority in the world. He said the stuff was extremely sharp one atom thickness) so it would cut like a razor in the bloodstream. He speculated that the athletes were going down a lot because their blood was circulating so fast. He said that toxicologists would not be able to spot it because they were not looking for it and the nano-particles are too small for their usual inspection instruments to see. So there is a short list of people who have the motive- means-opportunity to pull this off. Thus maybe his sudden death?
I will run with you ! Enough shots for me !
I think if there is something to heal with, that is better than a vaccine. None of them cover fully and none of them are fully safe. That is why one should decide for oneself to take them or leave them. As for measles etc. I know they are far more dangerous when you are adult. So you could get in the middle and say, everyone who did not get measles by age 18, might want to get vaccinated. That sounds more reasonable than vaxx all and everyone, risking death or harm without a sickness.
You know the best cure for your migraine? Letting patients and parents of patients to decide for themselves and their children. If they ask for your advice, give it.
If you would read (I know that's difficult), you would see that I am anti-mandates. And people like you, who won't read, give me a bigger migraine. And don't come in conversations like this not expecting people to give opinions. Something else that gives me a migraine.
Haha. Yes reading is so difficult. But maybe it is just misunderstanding of tone. It doesn't matter which side of vax you fall on as a doc. If you wish to not be plagued with headaches, you don't get overly invested in the decision of each patient no? You, as an anti-mandater should allow yourself that arm's distance (versus getting all migrainy as we dunces might say) and allow those plebes to sort it for themselves. If they can read and process it that is. Cuz... we dum.
Yes, reading seems to be difficult for you. We were having a discussion about the efficacy of vaccines in general. I nowhere made mention of what I thought anyone else should do or be made to do. They claimed the vaccines in general are not effective and do more harm than good. I took issue with that based on empirical and statistical evidence, not to mention the fact that we don't have children dying of things like diphtheria and polio anymore, at least not in this country. So while I won't call you "dum," I will say that you perhaps need to do a bit more listening and a little less reacting.
Who has the migraines from "listening to people". You or me?
Yeh.
Well, I suppose, if like you, I didn't actually take the time to listen to people, I'd avoid a migraine too. Thanks for the miracle cure.
I'm listening to you and that is most challenging. So, yeah. You're welcome. Pity your patients.