I’m not in the field but as a euro in the USA I was always surprised by the flu vax hype. It’s not terribly effective and well known, hence my euro country only recommended it for the older group as maybe a good idea. What I’ve been told here by doctors is even shitty protection is better than none as it has zero side effects and if it h…
I’m not in the field but as a euro in the USA I was always surprised by the flu vax hype. It’s not terribly effective and well known, hence my euro country only recommended it for the older group as maybe a good idea. What I’ve been told here by doctors is even shitty protection is better than none as it has zero side effects and if it has a few people maimed or dead that’s okay as the society is protected so sacrificing a few kids and adults is cool. Not sure how that fits in with primo non nocere but as we see now with Covid it isn’t about human health but $$$
They've tried to make people very afraid of the flu in the US. California even tried to mandate the flu vaccine for kids going to college! I think the pharmaceutical companies, just as with covid, push as many vaccines as they can get into a human body. The flu hysteria never widely caught on, but it's high pressure every year.
I must respond to your absolutism. You may just be speaking cynically, but it's important to clarify a critical point. Nothing in this world is without risk. No matter whether it's vaccines, aspirin, driving a car, flying an airplane or even eating fried chicken, everything has an inherent risk/benefit ratio. Yet some idealists* think "Do no harm" must mean no one is ever harmed under any circumstances. Yet most of us would accept "sacrificing" the occasional presumably random "victim" of side effect if it saves many times that number, protecting them from a horrible disease or death.
*We are speaking of vaccine risks here, but this concept poisons many areas of human society. These people want perfection, but perfection is almost always impossible. But you CAN have optimum. "The good is the enemy of the best" might be restated: "The demand for perfect is the enemy of the best, and often results in the worse."
I’m not in the field but as a euro in the USA I was always surprised by the flu vax hype. It’s not terribly effective and well known, hence my euro country only recommended it for the older group as maybe a good idea. What I’ve been told here by doctors is even shitty protection is better than none as it has zero side effects and if it has a few people maimed or dead that’s okay as the society is protected so sacrificing a few kids and adults is cool. Not sure how that fits in with primo non nocere but as we see now with Covid it isn’t about human health but $$$
Former Euro here too. Lots of needle worshipers in the USA
They burned the witches.
And their cats
They've tried to make people very afraid of the flu in the US. California even tried to mandate the flu vaccine for kids going to college! I think the pharmaceutical companies, just as with covid, push as many vaccines as they can get into a human body. The flu hysteria never widely caught on, but it's high pressure every year.
I must respond to your absolutism. You may just be speaking cynically, but it's important to clarify a critical point. Nothing in this world is without risk. No matter whether it's vaccines, aspirin, driving a car, flying an airplane or even eating fried chicken, everything has an inherent risk/benefit ratio. Yet some idealists* think "Do no harm" must mean no one is ever harmed under any circumstances. Yet most of us would accept "sacrificing" the occasional presumably random "victim" of side effect if it saves many times that number, protecting them from a horrible disease or death.
*We are speaking of vaccine risks here, but this concept poisons many areas of human society. These people want perfection, but perfection is almost always impossible. But you CAN have optimum. "The good is the enemy of the best" might be restated: "The demand for perfect is the enemy of the best, and often results in the worse."