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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lol. I like

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Bob's avatar

What I don't get is that if this is true - people getting dsick of the woke - then why don't recent election results reflect this?

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I know. If I wasn't intentional about not letting it happen, apathy can creep in.

I've said it a lot, but it is crazy how the obvious has become illusory to these people

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Bob's avatar

Yup. We've become a nation of mediocrity and mindless zombies. I remain less optimistic than el gato. Here's to me being wrong and he right!!!

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Cheers Bob!

I have youngish children so I'm going to give it the college try.

I don't want my kids to grow up and face this crap as adults.

I feel like if there's no urgency that could easily happen.

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Rikard's avatar

Acknowledging a reality you don't want to be true creates a feeling of you having a responsibility to try and fix it; if you also feel yourself unable to affect things even in your own life, you will instead of trying to fix things opt for rationalisation and symbolic action (magical thinking) like wearing cloth masks to protect against an airborne virus.

Voting for someone who reinforces your personal narrative about things and your rationalisations helps you defer the sense of responsibility/guilt onto others.

"Ask not what you yourself can actually do about something: demand someone else does it for you" to make a travesty of the well-known phrase.

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Bob's avatar

I do, and have, taken personal responsibility to try to change things, and have done so for quite a long time. It's taught me that most people are not interested in change or even hearing things that might challenge their beliefs.

I believe you are reading too much into why we vote. Are you suggesting I run for office to assuage my guilt? I'm not sure how you get from voting to rationalizing ones own guilt.

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Rikard's avatar

No, I was unclear - what I wrote is meant as a general answer (on of several possible factors) as to why people vote the way they do.

It's the same problem here: people complain about X, then they vote for the guys who not only cause X but who keeps doing it.

"...most people are not interested in change or even hearing things that might challenge their beliefs." Yes, and I share that experience. It is at the core of the problems we're having all throughout the western nations.

Voting, consciously, is taking responsibility in some small way for what gets decided and acted upon - from piddling stuff to the huge issues. It also creates the dual feeling of helplessness and guilt/anger at feeling impotent that needs be assuaged - f.e. by voting for someone you logically shouldn't vote for if it was viewed as a matter of concrete issues and recorded fact, not abstract principles and values espoused via posturing.

I absolutely didn't mean you - Bob - didn't/doesn't take any responsibility.

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Bob's avatar

Thanks! And thanks for the clarification too.

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