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You know Kash is going to be fire because he can look in two directions at once.

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kash can start fires with his eyes.

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and we hope he does.

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Substack will not let me paste in a photo of John Cusack with a boombox here, or you know I would.

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Lolol

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A little less hyperbole here...

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LOL

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oh my, I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything ... I love the guy but the eyes keep me guessing

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yep, he can see 'em coming & going (at the same time)

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He must have slight double vision so he will indict everyone twice just to be sure.

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Kash Patel could look intimidating sitting at a small table in a Baskins- Robbins eating ice cream from a cardboard cup with a pink plastic spoon.

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zactly

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Call me old but nothing can top Prince's 2007 or Tom Petty's 2008 Superbowl performances.

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i quite liked the katy perry show.

her music is vastly underrated and the show itself was a serious spectacle and fun,.

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To be fair, just watched her show. Not a fan of her overly sexual costumes, which detract from her singing. In this show she sounds almost shouting, but maybe it was the venue. And not a fan of her fellow performers. But overall the show seemed appropriate for family viewing.

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Her behavior on American Idol was pretty skeevy. Looks like she's either trying to emulate Miley Cyrus or compete with her. Very bad vibes from both.

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I never saw the Katy Perry show.

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I liked the Bruno Mars halftime show.

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Yes. That was the last legit one. He's a pretty damn good entertainer.

2nd best high tenor to Michael Jackson in rock.

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He was "Little Elvis" in "Honeymoon in Las Vegas".

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Tiny guy. Big voice

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Yup, that is a true statement!

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Ditto!

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Agreed!

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I never watched his half time show, but just did, It was good. I've been a fan of his since the very first time I heard "Uptown Funk" on the radio.

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Tom... miss him. RIP.

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The Who is up there.

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They were too. I forgot aboth them as well.

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Yeah, Anna the cat gets it! TP all time tops, Prince right there though🤘. That would have a universal supernova show with those two together. 💥

Puhlousi and Shitt gonna be free falling, courtesy of Kash Bash.

Proud to be an old geezer with impeccable taste in music

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Agreed. Can't decide which one was the best, but definitely between those two.

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as far as super bowl performances, yeah pretty much for that decade.

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My favorite was the U2 show in 2002, because of the names of the 9-11 victims.

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Prince 💜

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Perfect perfect perfect--the Kash meme that is, not that superbowl junk,

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Well this is real easy. When The Stones at 80 something sounds better than today's music, you know you're listening to shit.

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The Stones were really good, even old. If forgotten that one.

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I still listen to the stones...but i wouldn't pay to see them in concert nowadays

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One needs to take out a hefty loan to buy tickets to a concert today. Sheesh! It’s practically usury! My first concert was The Stones and ZZ Top in Houston at the Astrodome. My dad took me and I think I was 13 years old. Those tickets were probably $20/each. How I long for simpler times!

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*Mexican Blackbird has entered the chat*

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When I was young, my parents loved the Beatles. And I bet I can play 20 Beatles songs because it's so elemental.

But as I got older I really came to like The Rolling Stones way more. And when I think about it, the Beatles broke up in 1970 but the Stones have basically been together straight through.

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Agree. I actually appreciate the stones more as I've gotten into middle age.

I'm sorta in this phase with music where I'm "rediscovering" stuff from the 70's and early 80's that wasn't bad when I was young but didn't go out of my way to listen to. But that's most likely because there's nothing new worth listening to.

Like Dire Straits and Allmon brothers. They're Hella good but I wasn't old enough to truly appreciate it.

And i have to admit, for whatever reason, I got into yacht rock during the plandemic....like Ambrosia...lmao. but true.

It was sorta cathartic. Well that and Tool. I'm complicated.

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I never realized how good Steely Dan actually was. If you can get past the stupid lyrics, the musicianship is in another league. I'd say much the same about Frank Zappa.

They don't make them like that anymore.

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Steely Dan is my all-time favorite group. I bet I listen to a SD song or a cover of one every day.

And I loved Zappa. I once saw him three times in four nights at the DAR Constitution Hall in DC. My roommate had 4 Tix to all four nights. I was going to just go first and last night someone bailed on night three so I went.

I'm retrospect, that was way too much driving back to North Baltimore in a few says all schlobberknockered.

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Agree.

Steely is my favorite band all time. Can't buy a thrill is a masterpiece album

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Mark Knopplfer is also still out doing some great music.

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LOVE Tool!

…. But enjoy Leo Kottke, too.

Never could decide Beatles or Stones… love them both equally! Music is and always has been my “drug”, so it depends on the mood!

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Yes. Exactly. My drug. Perfect way of putting it

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Wasn’t it always Stones or Zepplin?

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I've always been a Lead Zeppelin fan, among others. The Stones and Beatles were kind of "too tame" for me.

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Zeppelin is best true rockers all time.

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They created a style, almost a genre, that didn't yet exist.

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Way too elderly.

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I love that band 🤣

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I think the job of every generation is to shock their parents. That was really challenging when your parents are gen x.

Ultimately the only thing that seemed to get their attention was a dicksaw, and a declaration that my name isn’t Jerry anymore, its Sheila Unicorn Princess. I’m really excited to see what gen z’s kids will come up with to one up that one.

As far as music, when my older son was in junior high Bon Jovi was somehow all the rage among his peers. I was prepared for them to shock me with death metal, satanic childrens songs, 17th century bulgarian folk tunes, and certainly hip hop.

I never expected the utter mind fuck of them loving the worst music of my youth. I feel utterly deafeted as an unflappable X’er.

These kids are good

Really good

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took you down in a blaze of glory?

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It's jokes like this that get you on a sign: Wanted Dead or Alive

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yeah, well, it's my life.

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I'm going to Runaway now.

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careful, it's slippery when wet.

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Lmfao! You've out done yourself. You even made my wife laugh

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Especially dangerous when on a steel horse you ride.

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Don't Runaway Pi. Hold on to What You Got!

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We are dorks! This whole chain is the best so far of 25'!

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Living on a Prayer

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Blaze of glory was released in 1990. That was only 35 years ago.

Some things are still raw. Too soon, way too soon.

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didn't mean to give you a shot through the heart...

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you give cats a bad name

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always.

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You're to blame

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Time after time

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When dad is all tatted up and has a piercing through his d*ck, becoming Sheila Unicorn Princess is about all that’s left…the only other possibility for rebellion would be to become a conservative normie (see Alex P. Keaton in the ‘80s TV show “Family Ties”. Bonus points for knowing that the actress who played his sister is now on Substack and is a common sense right-centrist — Justine Bateman).

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I suspect that's exactly it. Being reasonably sensible is going to be the new goth.

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You had to listen to Bon Jovi tho, or you'd never have a girlfriend in junior high!

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Your 14 year old girlfriend asking you if you like Bon Jovi is a psy-op. They just want to sit back and watch your hormones fight a death match with your sense of musical aesthetics.

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Lolol. Dude you're killing it today

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I think its the nothing to do smoking weed on a sunday afternoon thing, like the idiot savant who can only play Mozart after a 12 pack of PBR. I’ll probably sound like CSPAN in a couple hours.

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Lmao. Well weed get along real well.

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🤣

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Sounds MK Ultraesque!

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As anyone who has raised or interacted with one knows, 14 year old girls are sociopaths. The CIA recruits heavily from their ranks.

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More like putting up with Bon Jovi so I could play Iron Maiden when I got to choose.

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You are Number Six.

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Hell yes

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A couple of girlfriends had hair like Bon Jovi.

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YES, but in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and even into the 90's, musicians played their instruments, sang their songs, wrote their lyrics, etc. Now, if a fresh new muso writes a song, the producers will pitch correct and autotune it to death. AI is already here, it's been feeding us music for 20 years. Camel's nose in the tent - "it's taste" "it's generational"

NO. It's computerized crap. Watch a little bit of Rick Beato to get what I'm saying.

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I’m in my late 30’s and my top played music of the last year has been…Bach.

Maybe I’ll catch up to this conversation in a few centuries.

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The older I get, the older the music I listen to gets. If you like Lutheran composers, find some Praetorius. Mass for Christmas Morning is superb.

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Tallis: "Spem in Alium"; "O Nata Lux"; "Te Lucis Ante Terminum".

That guy understood harmony.

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Thanks, I've added these to the iPod classic. I actually have albums by the Tallis Scholars but... no Tallis.

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Thanks! I will check that out.

I was raised in the Lutheran church, have not been to a service in many years, but much of the music from the liturgy has stuck with me.

I started in my teens with mostly 20th century stuff — a lot of film soundtracks, and things that I branched out to from there. It’s been a gradual movement back through the ages from there.

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Bach - you're doing the hard stuff. It's like doing black tar heroin before you've ever tried beer. Where do you think the term "Hooked on Bach" came from. I had eight years of classical music education as a child. Sometimes I still get flashbacks - Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor.

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Smack before six pack is an interesting analogy 🤔

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Love classical due to its layers. Discovered Piano Guys a few years back. Enjoy them immensly because they combine Classical with modern.....really well. Try Beethoven's 5 Secrets.

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I love their mix of This is my fight song/Amazing Grace.

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Saw them last year...really good. Concert was too short.

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Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture! Very loud for the part with the cannons! He wrote The Nutcracker Suite. He also hated it. I played the first movement of his Concerto No. 1 One

in B-flat minor for a piano recital. Still proud of that - 40+ years later!

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I came in from checking calves and caught the halftime show. I turned to my wife and asked her what was that? She said “ not sure” thought you might be up to speed on it, must be something new? I was “ huh” new? how about terrible. Her reply, “ it could be both!”

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Loved this-but remember- 80’s rock STARTED WITH 50’-60’s ROCK AND ROLL!!!

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likely so, but 50's rock is never played anymore and only smatterings of 60's.

70's remains, 80's remains strong, and so does 90's.. that 30 year stretch seems like some sort of apogee (outside of dance music/EDM which had a great 2010-2020)

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60s and 70s were the heyday imo.

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The last true musicians was radiohead. Even their last album in 2016 was good.

They're the cutoff imo...around 2004

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Thom yorke's solo stuff is also great

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Everything in its Right Place freaks me the fvck out.

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Kid A was a great album. Sorta an anthem for people still partying in their mid twenties.

But OK Computer is a masterpiece. Every single song is perfect and in perfect order

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I was wondering when I was going to have to bring up Radiohead! IMO The Bends is just as perfect as OK Computer. (Karma Police sucks)

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SiriusXM gives you 24/7 50s. Great channel

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The classics are always important but El Gato's point about those three decades.

Lucky for me those were my formative music years. We got lucky, babe.

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take me down to the paradise kitty

where the grass is green and the girls have friskies...

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Welcome to the jungle was our prom theme song 😂

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Ours was Stairway to Heaven. lol

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*smdh* I am _so_ running out of Patience with you.

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Actually GnR was an inflection point in rock. Perfect segue to nirvana and PJ.

Appetite for Destruction was my first CD. they threw out hairbands and got down to business.

I was soooo ready!

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If I could afford a radio station I would gladly play 50’-60’s rock, but when I moved here in September, I lost access to Crawford broadcasting radio in Denver!!

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Get Sirius-XM That's about all I listen to, in the car and house. Not horribly expensive and lots of all kinds of news and music. Most cable systems have music also.

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Yup. Sign up for a good intro plan. When it is about to end, head to the website, pull up the chat and say you want your bill lowered. They automatically give you a lower price. It's a stupid game we've been playing for many years, but at least you can do it by chat now instead of having to do it over the phone.

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My friend's daughter had a poster of the Beatles on her bedroom wall before going off to college. I'm not sure the rebellion is not going backwards--rebelling against modern hip hop back to classic rock and roll.

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a friend of mine had a similar experience with his daughter.

asked her what she was listening to. she said "it's a super cool, obscure band you never heard of. it's called "the cure"."

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My 15 year old daughter loves The Smiths. I am witholding the fact that I listened to them when I was artsy back in '86-- why ruin it for her by inducing "Dad=lame" cognitive dissonance?

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strong parenting choice.

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It will still mess with her even if you tell her when she 30.

You can trust me in this.

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I gave my radio shack college era stereo to my 17 year old grandson. Recently asked him what he’s listening to. “The Smiths.” No cognitive dissonance, Grampie’s cool.

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😂😂😂

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You’re a good dad!

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Tom, she might also think you're pretty cool too!

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That's exactly how i taught my kids to like good music. Just tell them it's the latest and then they tell their friends about it because they want to be cool.

The best thing i did, as someone who is passionate about music, is i made a shared Playlist with my kids to expose them to the good stuff.

And now they're the life of the party when other kids stay over...cuz they're rocking MY music...lol...True tho.

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I put all my 70's and 80's music on my kids ipods from the time they started listening to music, thinking that if that's what they mostly grew up listening to, that's what they'd grow to like. Nope!

Also, the 80's had some great artists, but the 70's rule.

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Shiiiit. My daughter has a rather provocative poster of led zeppelin in her room. Robert plant is sorta the new "sex symbol" for 14 year old girls

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Robert Plant always looked like a 14-year-old girl, but he had some pipes. New movie coming out: "The Making of Led Zeppelin".

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He can still sing at 80. He and Allison Kraus did some really cool stuff together in the last 10 years.

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NOT a 14-year old girl, my dude.

https://youtu.be/4gT63xovuWE?si=EvtrwXHZYXs47_pr&t=83

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I was never much of a fan of LZ but I heard this and it was so awesome that I listen to it often. If you don't mind covers, it is spectacular. There is some of the audience I could cut out of the video but that's just me. 😉

The guys were having trouble keeping their cool. ❤️

https://youtu.be/8e2fJfiddx4?si=bL4ev-nh8TrcynHY

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When Heart got started they were inspired by Led Zeppelin. They admit that their song "Sing Child Sing" was them trying to sound like Zep.

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Come on, Ryan, get real. The 25-year old, chiseled, low-waist jeans and bolero-wearing Robert Plant...damn... a sex symbol for the ages

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I've got A Whole Lotta Love for a parent who shares Zeppelin with their kids.

One Easter in the late 90s at Casa de Pi the Firstest, my brother started picking out the fills on D'yet Maker on a kid's 3/4 guitar. I jumped on my daughter's keyboard and plunked up a rhythm piano part and belted out 🎵Oh oh oh oh ooh-ooh🎶 in the stylings of not of a crooner not completely unlike Robert Plant. It was pretty good, actually.

True story.

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Casa de Pi? Live music? Are they open for lunch?

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My ex-wife hated my Cure concert t-shirt, black with the white and purple snake. One day c.1992, it just never made it back into the rotation.

*sigh*

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Sadly, every married man has experienced similar trauma.

The mysterious disappearance of a favored garment.

There was this lucky fishing hat I used to wear ...

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That's just wrong. But mine does the same thing

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It seems to be a little known fact now, but back in the day, one could go stand outside the back fence at Shoreline Amphitheater and listen to a band do their sound check. Depending on the band, sometimes it is short, other time, an hourong set. During the actual show, security will chase you out of there, but not during sound check.

It was funny watching my wife dance to that little obscure band The Cure during sound check and the show in 2023, almost 40 years after she first saw them at the Kabuki in SF in 1984. Maybe, just maybe, Robert Smith will figure out the show biz game.

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Me: listening to Janis Joplin. Daughter: Janis who?

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Stop! Stop! I already love Kash too much already!

For the rest--yes, that halftime show was dreck to the ultimate power, but I don't like none o' them other guys you listed as musicians you do like. To me all rap and hip hop is crap.

As benchmarks for my own taste: the world is much darker for me now that Freddie Mercury, David Bowie and Meatloaf are gone. And earlier than that--I always thought the Stones were better than the Beatles. And The Who--deathless. I could listen to Baba O'Riley on an endless loop forever.

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I agree with you completely. your music taste are all excellent ,but you forgot the truly greatest rock and roll band of all time. the monkeys!!!! they were the best !!!!there will never be another one like them, I'm taking the Last Train to Clarksville. So cheer up sleepy Jean oh what can it mean to a Daydream Believer see what I'm talking about it's in your head now too isn't it

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Only Michael Nesmith was actually a musician. He had some obscure success. I liked what I heard.

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I really did enjoy their TV show. But I'd been primed to like Micky Dolenz because of "Circus Boy."

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When The Stones went to Rockford Illinois at thr Metro Center the whole state shook. October 1 , 1981. They responded to a public appeal here and bam! There they were. A friend had a T-shirt from that night but ended up losing it. Wish I had gone but tickets went instantaneously.

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Never forget this cover of train in vain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGI0SyrBaZw

and, of course, most everything by post modern jukebox, starting with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4k7RKaX3EA

maybe they will ease the sadness...

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wow. that's awesome. almost gospel music.

i love the genre flip covers.

try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hGSR5njZE

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possibly the best cover ever...

i understand that snoop likes it so much he doesn't charge them sag/aftra fees when they play it live

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i hope that's true.

snoop is legit.

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I absolutely love covers that make you think of a song in a totally different way, and this one is in my top 5:

https://youtu.be/RpB1yuQmp9I?si=p6d5iB2FpUOeipIb

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That is exactly the version I had in my head when I suggested the Gin and Juice Roll.

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Annie Lennox - her Elvis performance at the Grammy’s - genius.

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Those are nice

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Jeff wrote about this recently in Coffee and Covid. Post Patriot Act culture got frozen. Nothing good or lasting has happened since. Even my 25yr old listens to his parents music.

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This is from Jeff Childers’ stack of February 6:

What about music? Did you know that the market for new music market is shrinking? All the growth in the music market comes from old songs. Today’s list of the most downloaded tracks on iTunes is packed with band names from the previous millennium. So-called “catalog music” —songs older than 18 months— is now over 70% of music streamed in the U.S.

Walk into any restaurant, grocery store, or mall, and you’ll hear background tunes from the 70’s and 80’s. Old music dominates the U.S. market. We aren’t getting anywhere. Until the eighties, DJs called a 20-year-old song a “Golden Oldy.”

But the old music is so ubiquitous now they quietly retired the label “oldy.”

Paul Skallas explained it like this:

If you are under the age of 30 you may think things are normal. But to someone who has lived 3 decades or more you may notice something odd: we haven’t had a shift like we did in the past. Culture is frozen. Throughout the 20th century we had changes almost every decade. Changes in fashion, in music, in aesthetics, hairstyles, style of comedy, television shows and movies. If I show you a photo or play you a song from the 20th century, you’d probably be able to guess the decade. It was that clean of a break.

But I haven’t felt that change since the mid 2000s

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My journey has been a bit strange, perhaps.

I was raised on classical music. I took piano lessons as a kid: loved the Bach, but hated the Mozart.

Then I heard some the Doors' first album, which had just come out (this was 1967 and I was 12 years old). That changed everything. I quit piano lessons, started listenening to all sorts of pop and rock on the radio.

After a few short years, I migrated to British prog rock: early Genesis, ELP, Yes. (I still love things like "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway".)

Then I realized I was missing classical piano music. So I went nuts listening to Beethoven piano sonatas and Brahms piano concertos, while also listening to stuff like London Calling.

Eventually I focused almost entirely on classical, to the point where I started taking piano lessons again. Now I'm a Chopin/Brahms/Debussy fanatic, play their music every day, and can't get enough of it.

So I ended up back where my parents were when I was a little kid, and I'm so grateful for their influence on me.

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That's a cool story.

I wish I'd taken piano lessons. I didn't really try to play until I was in my late 30s after an ACL repair.

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Gato, when I stop reading I listen a lot, from Billie Holliday to Amy Winehouse (OK both jazz but you get it, even Russell Brand was amazed at how Amy was easily as talented as Billie or Ella)... she ran out of time.

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amy was extremely talented. i like her music.

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Most people don't realize what an amazing guitar player she was too.

But, if when you open your mouth and that's the sound that comes out, everything else just seems less than.

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Billie ❤️

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Caro Emerald

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"I don't say a word to a soul, to keep my heart protected." Now that you mentioned her I cannot get that song out of my head.

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Sorry - no question- 70s is best

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Well, except for Disco.

Disco Sucks.

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there was some great disco. it became some even better house music (and some cool hip hop)

https://youtu.be/KPV1InMNUf4?si=-VD8p6DPpk2X_j4x&t=11

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That was indeed freaking awesome.

But, If I Was President, that wouldn't be Disco.

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And 40 plus years later it's still sucks, Lynyrd Skynyrd forever Fly High free bird.

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Gimme 3 steps

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*screams, heads out your door*

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🤘Freebird!

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Yeah, baby! Turn it up.

NOW THATS 'MUH'RICA!

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Amen! Well, except for KC and the Sunshine Band.

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*laces up my my my my my boogie shoes*

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Sans disco!

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Kendrick worst music in the history of the Superbowl… hands down..

Sting the Best..

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I'm with you, Kendrick's brain dead, moronic, imbecilic, stupid, halftime show. absolutely was the suckiest suck that ever sucked!!!! And the best of all time was most certainly Tom Petty !!!! no comparison, Florida man has spoken

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I have never heard it. I greatly dislike hip hop and that other kind of shitty music. All of it is garbge

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Sting was good, I'm mostly down voting Kendrick.

He not like us.

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Best concert I've ever been to -2007, Police, with Elvis Costello opening.

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Oooh. That's a good choice

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It was 4 hours long, but I loved every minute. The Police and U2 were the bands that pulled me out of my Heavy Metal/Disco depression in high school.

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Shouldn't it be London Clawing...

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