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Sarah Thompson's avatar

You know Kash is going to be fire because he can look in two directions at once.

el gato malo's avatar

kash can start fires with his eyes.

Rosemary B's avatar

and we hope he does.

Sarah Thompson's avatar

Substack will not let me paste in a photo of John Cusack with a boombox here, or you know I would.

kittynana's avatar

@Sarah- you're making this Moday worth it so far.

Jimmy's avatar

I’m waiting for Bridget Phetasy to do a Kash edition of “Your Dumpster Fire “ 🔥😼

David Kindltot's avatar

Kash Patel could look intimidating sitting at a small table in a Baskins- Robbins eating ice cream from a cardboard cup with a pink plastic spoon.

Chris's avatar

oh my, I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything ... I love the guy but the eyes keep me guessing

Free Human's avatar

yep, he can see 'em coming & going (at the same time)

okboomer's avatar

He must have slight double vision so he will indict everyone twice just to be sure.

kittynana's avatar

@Sarah- OMFG. I literally LOLd at that.

Anna T's avatar

Call me old but nothing can top Prince's 2007 or Tom Petty's 2008 Superbowl performances.

el gato malo's avatar

i quite liked the katy perry show.

her music is vastly underrated and the show itself was a serious spectacle and fun,.

Anna T's avatar

To be fair, just watched her show. Not a fan of her overly sexual costumes, which detract from her singing. In this show she sounds almost shouting, but maybe it was the venue. And not a fan of her fellow performers. But overall the show seemed appropriate for family viewing.

Yuma's Freezing's avatar

Her behavior on American Idol was pretty skeevy. Looks like she's either trying to emulate Miley Cyrus or compete with her. Very bad vibes from both.

Donna O's avatar

Yes! EVERYTHING was about her. So immature. And her spiritual comments just made me mad.

James David's avatar

I never saw the Katy Perry show.

Pi Guy's avatar

I liked the Bruno Mars halftime show.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. That was the last legit one. He's a pretty damn good entertainer.

2nd best high tenor to Michael Jackson in rock.

Hana C. Waumbek's avatar

He was "Little Elvis" in "Honeymoon in Las Vegas".

EK MtnTime's avatar

Yup, that is a true statement!

Miss DP's avatar

He is an entertainer. I can watch him over and over. Love his voice.

Alan's avatar

I never watched his half time show, but just did, It was good. I've been a fan of his since the very first time I heard "Uptown Funk" on the radio.

NanaW's avatar

Such a great song to dance around & groove to while doing mindless cleaning tasks.

Or so I’ve heard.

Bandit's avatar

I love Bruno Mars! "Uptown Funk!" Loved that one the most.

Bandit's avatar

Tom Petty was a big loss in my book. 😢

Pi Guy's avatar

They were too. I forgot aboth them as well.

William's avatar

Yeah, Anna the cat gets it! TP all time tops, Prince right there though🤘. That would have a universal supernova show with those two together. 💥

Puhlousi and Shitt gonna be free falling, courtesy of Kash Bash.

Proud to be an old geezer with impeccable taste in music

Bandit's avatar

Prince 🥰🥰🥰 From the first song I heard of his.

LIB's avatar

Perfect perfect perfect--the Kash meme that is, not that superbowl junk,

SadieJay's avatar

I like the one of him looking at the door peephole from the outside. Knock Knock!!

V. Dominique's avatar

Agreed. Can't decide which one was the best, but definitely between those two.

Rosemary B's avatar

as far as super bowl performances, yeah pretty much for that decade.

CaliforniaLost's avatar

My favorite was the U2 show in 2002, because of the names of the 9-11 victims.

SadieJay's avatar

I prefer the ones where they actually sang and could sing. Did anyone hear Taylor Swift (eyeroll) singing with Stevie Nicks with no tech help? Yeah, there is no bucket big enough for her to carry a tune in. And this is old Stevie...she is REAL. And she was good.

Miss DP's avatar

I have never thought TS could sing.

I remember when she was new and I was like? Why? Someone said she is a good songwriter. Eh.

Carol Anne's avatar

Anna, thanks for the reminder. I just watched both, and you’re correct! My number one pick - PRINCE!!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well this is real easy. When The Stones at 80 something sounds better than today's music, you know you're listening to shit.

Pi Guy's avatar

The Stones were really good, even old. If forgotten that one.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I still listen to the stones...but i wouldn't pay to see them in concert nowadays

EK MtnTime's avatar

One needs to take out a hefty loan to buy tickets to a concert today. Sheesh! It’s practically usury! My first concert was The Stones and ZZ Top in Houston at the Astrodome. My dad took me and I think I was 13 years old. Those tickets were probably $20/each. How I long for simpler times!

Pi Guy's avatar

*Mexican Blackbird has entered the chat*

Pi Guy's avatar

When I was young, my parents loved the Beatles. And I bet I can play 20 Beatles songs because it's so elemental.

But as I got older I really came to like The Rolling Stones way more. And when I think about it, the Beatles broke up in 1970 but the Stones have basically been together straight through.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Agree. I actually appreciate the stones more as I've gotten into middle age.

I'm sorta in this phase with music where I'm "rediscovering" stuff from the 70's and early 80's that wasn't bad when I was young but didn't go out of my way to listen to. But that's most likely because there's nothing new worth listening to.

Like Dire Straits and Allmon brothers. They're Hella good but I wasn't old enough to truly appreciate it.

And i have to admit, for whatever reason, I got into yacht rock during the plandemic....like Ambrosia...lmao. but true.

It was sorta cathartic. Well that and Tool. I'm complicated.

Lon Guyland's avatar

I never realized how good Steely Dan actually was. If you can get past the stupid lyrics, the musicianship is in another league. I'd say much the same about Frank Zappa.

They don't make them like that anymore.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Agree.

Steely is my favorite band all time. Can't buy a thrill is a masterpiece album

Pi Guy's avatar

Steely Dan is my all-time favorite group. I bet I listen to a SD song or a cover of one every day.

And I loved Zappa. I once saw him three times in four nights at the DAR Constitution Hall in DC. My roommate had 4 Tix to all four nights. I was going to just go first and last night someone bailed on night three so I went.

I'm retrospect, that was way too much driving back to North Baltimore in a few says all schlobberknockered.

NanaW's avatar

Love them! Ever since I heard Do It Again on the radio years ago I was a fan.

Countdown to Ecstasy is one of my all-time favorite records.

Pi Guy's avatar

Mark Knopplfer is also still out doing some great music.

NanaW's avatar

He is so talented! Did you ever listen to his album he did with Chet Atkins? Mind-bendingly good. Two master musicians obviously having a grand ole time.

Evelyne's avatar

LOVE Tool!

…. But enjoy Leo Kottke, too.

Never could decide Beatles or Stones… love them both equally! Music is and always has been my “drug”, so it depends on the mood!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Exactly. My drug. Perfect way of putting it

NanaW's avatar

Good way to put how critical music is to so many of us. I call all the music I love so much the soundtrack of my life. One of God’s greatest gifts.

Hazel's avatar

Wasn’t it always Stones or Zepplin?

SadieJay's avatar

CCR. Just music. No bullshit. Watched a doc about them and they just did what they did because they loved it. No rock drama.

Sanwish's avatar

Ha! And for me add Chicago to the cathartic list (during the plandemic). Never appealed to me when I was younger. Im also in a phase of music rediscovery. Turn the radio on in the car to those stations (of that era) and instant calm, contentment, good memories overwhelm any grumpiness I’m feeling. And when I’m driving by a masked bicyclist, driver or walker, I start belting out the words as well. Singing works like a supercharge of calm.

NanaW's avatar

Wake Up Sunshine was my first exposure to them in Jr. High. Fell in love with that song first time I heard it. A favorite still to this day.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

OMG. I can't believe you're saying this.

I went straight to my Chicago's Greatest Hits

Talk about talented musicians with great vocals.

Bandit's avatar

Oh, Ryan! Yacht rock?! 🤮🤮🤮

kertch's avatar

I've always been a Lead Zeppelin fan, among others. The Stones and Beatles were kind of "too tame" for me.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Zeppelin is best true rockers all time.

Pi Guy's avatar

They created a style, almost a genre, that didn't yet exist.

Bandit's avatar

I HATED the Beatles and LOVED the Rolling Stones when they came to America. I don't think I was even in school yet. Everyone was so into the Beatles and I thought they were nuts.....I still do.

Bandit's avatar

Saw them on my wedding anniversary back in the early 90s. I was sublime.

Lauri Maniccia's avatar

It is simply too depressing to actually SEE them. But most good music is better if you don't have to look at them.

Samwise's avatar

I’m in my late 30’s and my top played music of the last year has been…Bach.

Maybe I’ll catch up to this conversation in a few centuries.

Thomas Schmidt's avatar

The older I get, the older the music I listen to gets. If you like Lutheran composers, find some Praetorius. Mass for Christmas Morning is superb.

Lon Guyland's avatar

Tallis: "Spem in Alium"; "O Nata Lux"; "Te Lucis Ante Terminum".

That guy understood harmony.

Thomas Schmidt's avatar

Thanks, I've added these to the iPod classic. I actually have albums by the Tallis Scholars but... no Tallis.

Samwise's avatar

Thanks! I will check that out.

I was raised in the Lutheran church, have not been to a service in many years, but much of the music from the liturgy has stuck with me.

I started in my teens with mostly 20th century stuff — a lot of film soundtracks, and things that I branched out to from there. It’s been a gradual movement back through the ages from there.

NanaW's avatar

Liturgical Lutheran services are wonderful. I wasn’t raised in the tradition of that, but as soon as hubby and I discovered it, there was nothing else that even comes close to it.

Bandit's avatar

I like to listen to Gregorian Chants. They're so soothing.

kertch's avatar

Bach - you're doing the hard stuff. It's like doing black tar heroin before you've ever tried beer. Where do you think the term "Hooked on Bach" came from. I had eight years of classical music education as a child. Sometimes I still get flashbacks - Passacaglia and Fugue in C minor.

Pi Guy's avatar

Smack before six pack is an interesting analogy 🤔

Yuma's Freezing's avatar

Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture! Very loud for the part with the cannons! He wrote The Nutcracker Suite. He also hated it. I played the first movement of his Concerto No. 1 One

in B-flat minor for a piano recital. Still proud of that - 40+ years later!

JBHoren's avatar

America's Bicentennial, Summer of 1976. I'd just gotten out of the Army and returned to Columbus, GA. Attended the festivities on July 4th at Fort Benning and listened to the US Army Band (augmented by civilian musicians). They played Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture... with 105mm towed-howitzers as cannons. It was thrilling. I hope to be around for America's semiquincentennial in 2026.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Raising the hairstyle on my back just reading your description

FH's avatar

Oh yes! I only had classical to listen to until I was around 9. 1812 Overture was a favorite. I need to find that again.

bara.ex.nihilo's avatar

Love classical due to its layers. Discovered Piano Guys a few years back. Enjoy them immensly because they combine Classical with modern.....really well. Try Beethoven's 5 Secrets.

Samwise's avatar

I love their mix of This is my fight song/Amazing Grace.

Mary Mc's avatar

Saw them last year...really good. Concert was too short.

NanaW's avatar

It warms my heart to know that there are people younger than me who still know of and can appreciate the glory of classical music. As much as I love many other genres and styles, nothing can approach the angelic glory of classical music. Divine beauty manifest in instruments fashioned by man with a series of notes arranged just so. Truly miraculous.

FH's avatar

Classical, country, jazz (classic), Cajun & Zydeco…yup all good. Beethoven’s Fifth is one of my favorites.

SadieJay's avatar

Omgosh....love Bach. And Vivaldi. And Boston. And Dinah Washington.

Lon Guyland's avatar

Try some Arvo Pärt. A good starter is “Alina” on ECM New Series (also on Spotify). Or “Timtinnabuli” on Gimmel (Spotify too).

Brett Richards's avatar

I think the job of every generation is to shock their parents. That was really challenging when your parents are gen x.

Ultimately the only thing that seemed to get their attention was a dicksaw, and a declaration that my name isn’t Jerry anymore, its Sheila Unicorn Princess. I’m really excited to see what gen z’s kids will come up with to one up that one.

As far as music, when my older son was in junior high Bon Jovi was somehow all the rage among his peers. I was prepared for them to shock me with death metal, satanic childrens songs, 17th century bulgarian folk tunes, and certainly hip hop.

I never expected the utter mind fuck of them loving the worst music of my youth. I feel utterly deafeted as an unflappable X’er.

These kids are good

Really good

el gato malo's avatar

took you down in a blaze of glory?

Pi Guy's avatar

It's jokes like this that get you on a sign: Wanted Dead or Alive

el gato malo's avatar

yeah, well, it's my life.

Pi Guy's avatar

I'm going to Runaway now.

el gato malo's avatar

careful, it's slippery when wet.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lmfao! You've out done yourself. You even made my wife laugh

Doctor Hammer's avatar

Especially dangerous when on a steel horse you ride.

kertch's avatar

Don't Runaway Pi. Hold on to What You Got!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

We are dorks! This whole chain is the best so far of 25'!

Hazel's avatar

Living on a Prayer

Brett Richards's avatar

Blaze of glory was released in 1990. That was only 35 years ago.

Some things are still raw. Too soon, way too soon.

el gato malo's avatar

didn't mean to give you a shot through the heart...

Orwell’s Rabbit's avatar

When dad is all tatted up and has a piercing through his d*ck, becoming Sheila Unicorn Princess is about all that’s left…the only other possibility for rebellion would be to become a conservative normie (see Alex P. Keaton in the ‘80s TV show “Family Ties”. Bonus points for knowing that the actress who played his sister is now on Substack and is a common sense right-centrist — Justine Bateman).

Doctor Hammer's avatar

I suspect that's exactly it. Being reasonably sensible is going to be the new goth.

SadieJay's avatar

OMG....you guys are killing me. Cutting off my Air Supply.

JC's avatar

YES, but in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and even into the 90's, musicians played their instruments, sang their songs, wrote their lyrics, etc. Now, if a fresh new muso writes a song, the producers will pitch correct and autotune it to death. AI is already here, it's been feeding us music for 20 years. Camel's nose in the tent - "it's taste" "it's generational"

NO. It's computerized crap. Watch a little bit of Rick Beato to get what I'm saying.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You had to listen to Bon Jovi tho, or you'd never have a girlfriend in junior high!

Brett Richards's avatar

Your 14 year old girlfriend asking you if you like Bon Jovi is a psy-op. They just want to sit back and watch your hormones fight a death match with your sense of musical aesthetics.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lolol. Dude you're killing it today

Brett Richards's avatar

I think its the nothing to do smoking weed on a sunday afternoon thing, like the idiot savant who can only play Mozart after a 12 pack of PBR. I’ll probably sound like CSPAN in a couple hours.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lmao. Well weed get along real well.

SadieJay's avatar

Are you Keith's brother?

Brett Richards's avatar

I’m not sure who Keith is. I thought maybe it was a disgruntled former member of bon jovi so I looked it up.

Nope, but the website I found was called classicrockhistory.com

meaning bon jovi is somehow considered classic rock.

You made me cry and ruined my monday. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

https://www.classicrockhistory.com/complete-list-of-bon-jovi-band-members/

Brett Richards's avatar

As anyone who has raised or interacted with one knows, 14 year old girls are sociopaths. The CIA recruits heavily from their ranks.

Pi Guy's avatar

A couple of girlfriends had hair like Bon Jovi.

Scuba Cat's avatar

More like putting up with Bon Jovi so I could play Iron Maiden when I got to choose.

deathcap's avatar

Millennial (35) here:

Right...you know what my fifth grader has gotten into? Y2K era Eminem. I didn't Eminem THEN, and now here we are in 2025 and I've heard "The Real Slim Shady" probably 100 times in the past month.

Augh! He doesn't even understand the pop culture references!

Occam's avatar

Wow, that's a potentially great theory, Brett.

The purpose of our youth was undoubtedly to shock our parents, which was easy enough for GenX to do, just by listening to the Sex Pistols, skipping school and drinking underage. Nowadays, that's much more difficult, so the kids had to up the ante, which gave rise to the idiocy we see now (Sheila Unicorn Princess, indeed).

Also, the fact that they listen to the music of our youth was quite unforeseen, for sure.

Brett Richards's avatar

Thanks! Also really like your razors. Way better than gillette.

Perplexity's avatar

My 16 yo granddaughter lives with is. She swooned over the half-time show. Cried when she found out the Kendrick tour stop in Detroit was sold out.

Where have I gone wrong?

dave walker's avatar

I came in from checking calves and caught the halftime show. I turned to my wife and asked her what was that? She said “ not sure” thought you might be up to speed on it, must be something new? I was “ huh” new? how about terrible. Her reply, “ it could be both!”

Ed Powell's avatar

My friend's daughter had a poster of the Beatles on her bedroom wall before going off to college. I'm not sure the rebellion is not going backwards--rebelling against modern hip hop back to classic rock and roll.

el gato malo's avatar

a friend of mine had a similar experience with his daughter.

asked her what she was listening to. she said "it's a super cool, obscure band you never heard of. it's called "the cure"."

TomNearBoston's avatar

My 15 year old daughter loves The Smiths. I am witholding the fact that I listened to them when I was artsy back in '86-- why ruin it for her by inducing "Dad=lame" cognitive dissonance?

el gato malo's avatar

strong parenting choice.

Pi Guy's avatar

It will still mess with her even if you tell her when she 30.

You can trust me in this.

Alan Frasier's avatar

I gave my radio shack college era stereo to my 17 year old grandson. Recently asked him what he’s listening to. “The Smiths.” No cognitive dissonance, Grampie’s cool.

Porge's avatar

Tom, she might also think you're pretty cool too!

Dena's avatar

You’re a good dad!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

That's exactly how i taught my kids to like good music. Just tell them it's the latest and then they tell their friends about it because they want to be cool.

The best thing i did, as someone who is passionate about music, is i made a shared Playlist with my kids to expose them to the good stuff.

And now they're the life of the party when other kids stay over...cuz they're rocking MY music...lol...True tho.

GK's avatar

I put all my 70's and 80's music on my kids ipods from the time they started listening to music, thinking that if that's what they mostly grew up listening to, that's what they'd grow to like. Nope!

Also, the 80's had some great artists, but the 70's rule.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Shiiiit. My daughter has a rather provocative poster of led zeppelin in her room. Robert plant is sorta the new "sex symbol" for 14 year old girls

Mary Mc's avatar

I was never much of a fan of LZ but I heard this and it was so awesome that I listen to it often. If you don't mind covers, it is spectacular. There is some of the audience I could cut out of the video but that's just me. 😉

The guys were having trouble keeping their cool. ❤️

https://youtu.be/8e2fJfiddx4?si=bL4ev-nh8TrcynHY

kertch's avatar

When Heart got started they were inspired by Led Zeppelin. They admit that their song "Sing Child Sing" was them trying to sound like Zep.

SadieJay's avatar

That is always amazing...audience not withstanding!

kertch's avatar

Robert Plant always looked like a 14-year-old girl, but he had some pipes. New movie coming out: "The Making of Led Zeppelin".

Pi Guy's avatar

He can still sing at 80. He and Allison Kraus did some really cool stuff together in the last 10 years.

Leara's avatar

Come on, Ryan, get real. The 25-year old, chiseled, low-waist jeans and bolero-wearing Robert Plant...damn... a sex symbol for the ages

Pi Guy's avatar

I've got A Whole Lotta Love for a parent who shares Zeppelin with their kids.

One Easter in the late 90s at Casa de Pi the Firstest, my brother started picking out the fills on D'yet Maker on a kid's 3/4 guitar. I jumped on my daughter's keyboard and plunked up a rhythm piano part and belted out 🎵Oh oh oh oh ooh-ooh🎶 in the stylings of not of a crooner not completely unlike Robert Plant. It was pretty good, actually.

True story.

kertch's avatar

Casa de Pi? Live music? Are they open for lunch?

Pi Guy's avatar

My ex-wife hated my Cure concert t-shirt, black with the white and purple snake. One day c.1992, it just never made it back into the rotation.

*sigh*

AndyinBC's avatar

Sadly, every married man has experienced similar trauma.

The mysterious disappearance of a favored garment.

There was this lucky fishing hat I used to wear ...

Ryan Gardner's avatar

That's just wrong. But mine does the same thing

Bandit's avatar

Funny how so many of your clothes just disappear, huh? Lots of mine gone, too.

Rikard's avatar

Can confirm.

Before I met my wife, I had a lot of "funny" t-shirts.

Trophies/gifts from girls, mainly.

All gone. Washing machine or spin dryer wrecked them, apparently.

Pi Guy's avatar

Mrs. Pi buys me Hawaiian shirts. Cool ones. We both like them. Cha-ching.

AndyinBC's avatar

You are indeed fortunate!

My bride reluctantly allows me to purchase Hawaiian shirts.

In Hawaii.

Shirts that seem to vanish when we return to cooler climes.

CaliforniaLost's avatar

It seems to be a little known fact now, but back in the day, one could go stand outside the back fence at Shoreline Amphitheater and listen to a band do their sound check. Depending on the band, sometimes it is short, other time, an hourong set. During the actual show, security will chase you out of there, but not during sound check.

It was funny watching my wife dance to that little obscure band The Cure during sound check and the show in 2023, almost 40 years after she first saw them at the Kabuki in SF in 1984. Maybe, just maybe, Robert Smith will figure out the show biz game.

FH's avatar

I lived on the Peninsula for awhile and heard stories like this about Shoreline. By the time I got there I wasn’t doing big concert venues, cost and crowds.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Me: listening to Janis Joplin. Daughter: Janis who?

Sara's avatar

My 18-year-old high schooler listens to yacht rock, country, bossa nova (her studying music) and classical. Mama didn’t raise no dummies.

Kay Paulsen's avatar

Loved this-but remember- 80’s rock STARTED WITH 50’-60’s ROCK AND ROLL!!!

el gato malo's avatar

likely so, but 50's rock is never played anymore and only smatterings of 60's.

70's remains, 80's remains strong, and so does 90's.. that 30 year stretch seems like some sort of apogee (outside of dance music/EDM which had a great 2010-2020)

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

60s and 70s were the heyday imo.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

The last true musicians was radiohead. Even their last album in 2016 was good.

They're the cutoff imo...around 2004

clem h fandango's avatar

Thom yorke's solo stuff is also great

Scuba Cat's avatar

Everything in its Right Place freaks me the fvck out.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Kid A was a great album. Sorta an anthem for people still partying in their mid twenties.

But OK Computer is a masterpiece. Every single song is perfect and in perfect order

Paula's avatar

I was wondering when I was going to have to bring up Radiohead! IMO The Bends is just as perfect as OK Computer. (Karma Police sucks)

Ryan Gardner's avatar

My 2 favorite RH songs are fake plastic trees followed by high and dry. Both are on The Bends.

But I still think OK Computer is slightly better top to bottom.

Running Burning Man's avatar

SiriusXM gives you 24/7 50s. Great channel

Pi Guy's avatar

The classics are always important but El Gato's point about those three decades.

Lucky for me those were my formative music years. We got lucky, babe.

el gato malo's avatar

take me down to the paradise kitty

where the grass is green and the girls have friskies...

JSR's avatar

Welcome to the jungle was our prom theme song 😂

Mike Schmidt's avatar

Ours was Stairway to Heaven. lol

Pi Guy's avatar

*smdh* I am _so_ running out of Patience with you.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Actually GnR was an inflection point in rock. Perfect segue to nirvana and PJ.

Appetite for Destruction was my first CD. they threw out hairbands and got down to business.

I was soooo ready!

SadieJay's avatar

I know I am a day behind, but GNR had my heart when I saw they were in Sudden Impact. Dirty Harry AND GNR?? Heaven!

And I am a girl, btw.

Bandit's avatar

I loved Guns n Roses! The fact that Axel is from Indiana only made it better.

SadieJay's avatar

But I got you Pi...I got you

Kay Paulsen's avatar

If I could afford a radio station I would gladly play 50’-60’s rock, but when I moved here in September, I lost access to Crawford broadcasting radio in Denver!!

Mary Mc's avatar

Get Sirius-XM That's about all I listen to, in the car and house. Not horribly expensive and lots of all kinds of news and music. Most cable systems have music also.

Mike Schmidt's avatar

Yup. Sign up for a good intro plan. When it is about to end, head to the website, pull up the chat and say you want your bill lowered. They automatically give you a lower price. It's a stupid game we've been playing for many years, but at least you can do it by chat now instead of having to do it over the phone.

SadieJay's avatar

Telling them you are going to cancel gets you an even better deal, they freak out. At least they used to. Now we are at a $10 a month plan.

Mike Schmidt's avatar

You better call again, I got $6.99/month per radio last time. Maybe a bit cheaper since we have three devices?

SadieJay's avatar

I only have one rig. And the app on my phone. There are also a lot of taxes that make it add up. I am so glad...I love paying taxes on everything!

UnvaxxedCanadian's avatar

Jeff wrote about this recently in Coffee and Covid. Post Patriot Act culture got frozen. Nothing good or lasting has happened since. Even my 25yr old listens to his parents music.

KatLee's avatar

This is from Jeff Childers’ stack of February 6:

What about music? Did you know that the market for new music market is shrinking? All the growth in the music market comes from old songs. Today’s list of the most downloaded tracks on iTunes is packed with band names from the previous millennium. So-called “catalog music” —songs older than 18 months— is now over 70% of music streamed in the U.S.

Walk into any restaurant, grocery store, or mall, and you’ll hear background tunes from the 70’s and 80’s. Old music dominates the U.S. market. We aren’t getting anywhere. Until the eighties, DJs called a 20-year-old song a “Golden Oldy.”

But the old music is so ubiquitous now they quietly retired the label “oldy.”

Paul Skallas explained it like this:

If you are under the age of 30 you may think things are normal. But to someone who has lived 3 decades or more you may notice something odd: we haven’t had a shift like we did in the past. Culture is frozen. Throughout the 20th century we had changes almost every decade. Changes in fashion, in music, in aesthetics, hairstyles, style of comedy, television shows and movies. If I show you a photo or play you a song from the 20th century, you’d probably be able to guess the decade. It was that clean of a break.

But I haven’t felt that change since the mid 2000s

Ian Schmidt's avatar

Yeah, I noticed that too. As an 80s kid I loved it in the early 2000s when supermarkets and Walmarts all played 70s and 80s stuff. But then they just never stopped. Around 2010 I was expecting to hear Alice In Chains and Soundgarden but it just never happened.

The best explanation I've seen is that Bill Clinton ruined pop music by allowing Clear Channel to buy all the stations and eliminate local DJs. In the 70s and 80s there were region-specific hits (My fellow Midwest kids will know Head East's "Never Been Any Reason" and nobody else will) that sometimes broke out everywhere and that helped keep things fresh. Now there's one guy playing the same thing coast-to-coast.

Bandit's avatar

I agree with him, too. Somehow, they froze time.

SCA's avatar

Stop! Stop! I already love Kash too much already!

For the rest--yes, that halftime show was dreck to the ultimate power, but I don't like none o' them other guys you listed as musicians you do like. To me all rap and hip hop is crap.

As benchmarks for my own taste: the world is much darker for me now that Freddie Mercury, David Bowie and Meatloaf are gone. And earlier than that--I always thought the Stones were better than the Beatles. And The Who--deathless. I could listen to Baba O'Riley on an endless loop forever.

Ray Bob's avatar

I agree with you completely. your music taste are all excellent ,but you forgot the truly greatest rock and roll band of all time. the monkeys!!!! they were the best !!!!there will never be another one like them, I'm taking the Last Train to Clarksville. So cheer up sleepy Jean oh what can it mean to a Daydream Believer see what I'm talking about it's in your head now too isn't it

Bandit's avatar

🤗🤗🤗 "The Monkees!" Oh, how I loved that show and Davy Jones!

NanaW's avatar

Yes, it is in my head now. And that’s more than ok.

When it’s over I’ll take the Last Train to Clarksville.

Ray Bob's avatar

And I will meet you at the station, you can be here by 4:30 cause I've made your reservation. don't be slow ,oh no no no .it never gets old😁

NanaW's avatar

“And I don’t know if I’m ever coming home”

They rose to the challenge of their show. I loved how crazy the program was. Gave me a Marx Brothers vibe, whom I also fell in love with at a young age.

And since we are revealing our love for what is mostly considered “cheesy” pop music, I’ll confess right now that I also love “Sugar, Sugar” by The Archies. It’s a long-time ear-worm that still pops up in my head with regularity. I’m hearing it right now!!! 🤣🤣🤣

Ray Bob's avatar

I am hearing it as well, forgot about that one. for some reason Sammy Davis Jr, the Candyman pop's into my head as well 😁

NanaW's avatar

Another enjoyable bit of pop confectionary.

SCA's avatar

I really did enjoy their TV show. But I'd been primed to like Micky Dolenz because of "Circus Boy."

Yuma's Freezing's avatar

Only Michael Nesmith was actually a musician. He had some obscure success. I liked what I heard.

Janet's avatar

When The Stones went to Rockford Illinois at thr Metro Center the whole state shook. October 1 , 1981. They responded to a public appeal here and bam! There they were. A friend had a T-shirt from that night but ended up losing it. Wish I had gone but tickets went instantaneously.

NanaW's avatar

Queen & Bowie defined my life during high school. I’m one lucky girl, as I got to see Queen live 3 times. Greatest concert experience I ever had, hands down, was the very first one at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium, with seats close to the stage. Was their tour for the release of Night at the Opera. 🤯

SCA's avatar

I can't possibly ever match that. Though seeing Tina Turner, and the Eurythmics, at Madison Square Garden (separate shows) in 2000 was mighty great.

They can sneer at boomers all they like. We really were the luckiest generation in so many ways. I don't want to be young again but I'm damn glad I was young when I was.

NanaW's avatar

Completely agree! Would not want to be a kid or raise kids nowadays. Makes the trials and tribulations of my own youth seem like a cake walk in comparison to the snares and pitfalls of today. And culturally, today is a desolate wasteland compared to what the riches my era had to offer.

And there was still appreciation for the cultural icons of decades past when I was a kid/teen. I loved classic Hollywood movies. I appreciated classical music, and crooners and comedians like Tom Lehrer. I was shocked when over 10 years ago a good friend’s twin sons told me they had no idea who the Beatles were! How is that even possible? Love them or hate them, they changed the trajectory of music.

SCA's avatar

Have I found another astral sibling in you?

Bandit's avatar

Your world and mine, too. 😢

SCA's avatar

When I want to feel happy and sad at the same time I play that video of "Under Pressure." When I want to make my heart break I play the video of "It's All Coming Back to Me Now."

NanaW's avatar

Under Pressure is amazing. Bowie and Queen together! 🤯

It’s All Coming Back to Me is a great song about how love never truly is able to be banished or forgotten, despite the hurts and pain that can sadly be dealt out.

Melissa Fountain's avatar

Gato, when I stop reading I listen a lot, from Billie Holliday to Amy Winehouse (OK both jazz but you get it, even Russell Brand was amazed at how Amy was easily as talented as Billie or Ella)... she ran out of time.

el gato malo's avatar

amy was extremely talented. i like her music.

Pi Guy's avatar

Most people don't realize what an amazing guitar player she was too.

But, if when you open your mouth and that's the sound that comes out, everything else just seems less than.

Melissa Fountain's avatar

"I don't say a word to a soul, to keep my heart protected." Now that you mentioned her I cannot get that song out of my head.

Mark Alexander's avatar

My journey has been a bit strange, perhaps.

I was raised on classical music. I took piano lessons as a kid: loved the Bach, but hated the Mozart.

Then I heard the Doors' first album, which had just come out (this was 1967 and I was 12 years old). That changed everything. I quit piano lessons, started listenening to all sorts of pop and rock on the radio.

After a few short years, I migrated to British prog rock: early Genesis, ELP, Yes. (I still love things like "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway".)

Then I realized I was missing classical piano music. So I went nuts listening to Beethoven piano sonatas and Brahms piano concertos, while also listening to stuff like London Calling.

Eventually I focused almost entirely on classical, to the point where I started taking piano lessons again. Now I'm a Chopin/Brahms/Debussy fanatic, play their music every day, and can't get enough of it.

So I ended up back where my parents were when I was a little kid, and I'm so grateful for their influence on me.

Pi Guy's avatar

That's a cool story.

I wish I'd taken piano lessons. I didn't really try to play until I was in my late 30s after an ACL repair.

Mark Alexander's avatar

It's never too late (title of a great book by John Holt about learning to play the cello at 40). I didn't play for 20 years after I quit as a little kid. When I took it up again I went a bit bonkers.

Pi Guy's avatar

Turn 60 end of April and I've decided this year is the year I claw hammer. I needed to learn more Folk and Bluegrass and Americana and Appalachian before I really could get IT (Rock, Country, and Blues all have the same basic IT). I'm about six weeks in and I'm kinda getting being a Banjerino.

But I still secretly wish I could really play piano.

But I still secretly

Lynne's avatar

Same age, Pi Guy, and a similar story. After returning from WWII, my grandfather was part of a big band/swing trio. He’d play for us during family holiday celebrations. It was magical.

I always wanted to learn, but, even then, we Gen X kids knew how unimportant we were in the scheme of things and I never even mentioned it to anyone.

I tried several times to learn through the years, but homeschooling a large family left not enough time or mental energy. Now that the nest is empty (truly empty as the marriage fell apart after the kids left), it’s my turn. I signed up for Stephen Ridley’s piano academy and feel like I’m improving; my finger exercises are beginning to sound a lot more musical than ever before. He breaks it down into micro skills — his approach is different from any other I’ve tried, but so far, I’m liking it. And if you get through the whole thing and still can’t play, money back guarantee.

Pi Guy's avatar

That is so awesome! To be fair, I started in clarinet in 4th, was playing sax by end of 6th thru 12th. Shouldn't have sold my old tenor sax. But I had also played some guitar thru most of high school and a little beyond (my brother and uncle were in a band(s) together and separately for most of 20 years) but I lost touch.

Found a $25 Yamaha guitar at a yard sale in young married life and it kinda took hold for good with me. All this to say, by the time I got around to really trying to play piano, I had quite a bit of music experience, even different instrument experience. And I'm pretty proud of what I've learned but for you to take off from Ground Zero late in life, and find success and satisfaction, only inspires me more to just keep playing and keep expanding.

They do this thing on the Internet in late August every year call Play Music on Your Porch Day. Just think about it.

Oughtsix's avatar

Well, about time someone mentioned the Great American Original Music. I have been a banjo and fiddle player since 1962, both styles, played semi pro in some really good local bands. In 1970 or so, all I listened to was that genre, the Grateful Dead, Allman Bros and The Band. Still do.

Unfamiliar? Start with Alison Kraus... voice like a flute, never a false note, lovely lyrics and arrangements and a wide range on influences. Can still nail the traditional as well. Want to know what the kids are listening? Billy Strings. Absolutely prodigious picking, wide range of covers and influences, originals, jamming to the moon, and faithful to tradition and unafraid of breaking all the rules. Stunning.

Pi Guy's avatar

That's all really good stuff.

Me and My Buddy Bill do a nice version of When You Say Nothing at All, and I'd say that was indeed my first toe dip into bluegrass. And my boss and I did a pretty good Friend of the Devil at an open mic a few years back, and Deep Elum Blues in October I think. And I've seen Dan Tymynski in concert, in fact.

Most recently Billy Strings, Molly Tuttle, and lately a lot of Sierra Ferrell has really upped my game. And there's a young Canadian banjo player on YouTube with the most beautiful and little bit haunting voice, Talise, who plays all sorts of traditional stuff.

Fiddle ... I don't have a fiddle. 🤔

Oughtsix's avatar

You are on a good track! Check out the other Sierra, Hull. Tremendous talent on the mandolin, as good as anyone. Fine voice and cute as a button to boot. Highly recommend Bela Fleck's My Bluegrass Heart tour, featuring a rotating cast of who's who of the very best BG talent. including Sierra Hull, Michael Cleveland, many more.Just doesn't get any higher in either talent or eclecticism!

Mark Alexander's avatar

Bluegrass is pretty awesome. Go for it!

Sunshine Superman's avatar

My son's music collection begins in the early 1970's (Led Zeppelin) and stops around 2002 (White Stripes - Elephant). Kid has zero interest in anything that came after that date.

Pi Guy's avatar

Jack White is awesome.

And Zeppelin is pretty core for me, as is chronicled elsewhere on this thread.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah, yeah, after my own heart.

Great choices.

thomas buckley's avatar

Never forget this cover of train in vain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGI0SyrBaZw

and, of course, most everything by post modern jukebox, starting with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4k7RKaX3EA

maybe they will ease the sadness...

el gato malo's avatar

wow. that's awesome. almost gospel music.

i love the genre flip covers.

try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4hGSR5njZE

thomas buckley's avatar

possibly the best cover ever...

i understand that snoop likes it so much he doesn't charge them sag/aftra fees when they play it live

el gato malo's avatar

i hope that's true.

snoop is legit.

Ian Schmidt's avatar

Snoop said Appalachia is a ghetto just like Compton and bluegrass is their version of rap. I rate that true, and probably also something FedGov doesn't want people to think too deeply about.

Orwell’s Rabbit's avatar

I absolutely love covers that make you think of a song in a totally different way, and this one is in my top 5:

https://youtu.be/RpB1yuQmp9I?si=p6d5iB2FpUOeipIb

Pi Guy's avatar

That is exactly the version I had in my head when I suggested the Gin and Juice Roll.

Dena's avatar

Annie Lennox - her Elvis performance at the Grammy’s - genius.

JBHoren's avatar

Annie Lennox -- her "Walking on Broken Glass" video is classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y25stK5ymlA

NanaW's avatar

She has the voice of a sad angel.

Richard H's avatar

Sorry - no question- 70s is best

Pi Guy's avatar

Well, except for Disco.

Disco Sucks.

el gato malo's avatar

there was some great disco. it became some even better house music (and some cool hip hop)

https://youtu.be/KPV1InMNUf4?si=-VD8p6DPpk2X_j4x&t=11

Pi Guy's avatar

That was indeed freaking awesome.

But, If I Was President, that wouldn't be Disco.

Jimmy's avatar

Thanking you for reminding me of the wyclef. 🔥

Ray Bob's avatar

And 40 plus years later it's still sucks, Lynyrd Skynyrd forever Fly High free bird.

Pi Guy's avatar

*screams, heads out your door*

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yeah, baby! Turn it up.

NOW THATS 'MUH'RICA!

Bandit's avatar

But, "it had a good beat and you can dance to it."

And do not dis the Bee Gees!

JBHoren's avatar

"...but I couldn't understand the lyrics."

Dick Clark's "American Bandstand". My youth.

Pi Guy's avatar

It's got a good beat. You can dance to it.

Ian Schmidt's avatar

Disco was over-hated by the Boomers. I love EDM and I went raving in the mid 90s regularly, but I miss dance music with live bass and drums like disco had. The feel was so much better.

kertch's avatar

Amen! Well, except for KC and the Sunshine Band.

Pi Guy's avatar

*laces up my my my my my boogie shoes*

Ian Schmidt's avatar

Funky Town is a hybrid - the verses are New Wave and the chorus is disco. It came out exactly at the only time you could've gotten away with that.

curt s sanders's avatar

Kendrick worst music in the history of the Superbowl… hands down..

Sting the Best..

Ray Bob's avatar

I'm with you, Kendrick's brain dead, moronic, imbecilic, stupid, halftime show. absolutely was the suckiest suck that ever sucked!!!! And the best of all time was most certainly Tom Petty !!!! no comparison, Florida man has spoken

Rosemary B's avatar

I have never heard it. I greatly dislike hip hop and that other kind of shitty music. All of it is garbge

kertch's avatar

Best concert I've ever been to -2007, Police, with Elvis Costello opening.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Oooh. That's a good choice

kertch's avatar

It was 4 hours long, but I loved every minute. The Police and U2 were the bands that pulled me out of my Heavy Metal/Disco depression in high school.

Pi Guy's avatar

Sting was good, I'm mostly down voting Kendrick.

He not like us.