If anything, we have come to learn that whoever "they" are, they can never be trusted. Like fauci and pandemics, stanford censorship will be back stronger than ever.
I don't understand this whole 'algorithm' thing. You're just counting. The only operation required to generate the results is Addition.
Just something like this: "IF 'yes' for Candidate31 THEN Candidate31.Tally ++." That's it.
What the heck are they algorithmorating? We'd be better off just handing out a bag of marbles to every voter - one color per ballot - and let people walk past a bunch of labelled jars. Display the weights in real time. Know the results the minute the polls close. No Mail-in Marbles.
complex opacity is a feature, not a bug. this whole company is suspect all the way back to its founding. there is a reason so many countries refuse to let any of this stuff anywhere near their elections.
One can get a great deal of mileage from saying with endless contempt "you just don't understand" to questioners without the technical expertise to comprehend where the snowing is coming from.
You'd think, wouldn't you, that Republican candidates would be smart and clever enough now to make "greatest hits" campaign ads that skewered opposition lies through their black hearts, but...
Paper ballots in person, at physical location, counted by real people, with an arbiter in each precinct to resolve any conflicts. And no pussy's allowed. Vote in person.
With all of these stories I inevitably find myself wondering “who are these people?”
Who is the guy that gets up every day and knowingly spies on his fellow citizens and tries to manipulate their thoughts and behavior with lies and trickery?
How many layers of delusion and lying to yourself at the deepest level do you have to be wrapped in to continue doing these things?
the IC has a "type." they recruit for "joiners" willing to subsume identity to ideology. they cast it as a war of good against evil and if you have break a few eggs to make that omelet, so be it.
they 100% think they are the good guys and fighting the good fight. "if you knew what we know, you'd understand..."
It shouldn’t shock me after the last four years, but it’s still difficult to wrap my head around someone allowing themselves to be that easily made into a dishonest tool.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao all thought themselves and their followers were the good guys fighting the good fight. Knowing what they knew and understanding as they did.
Pretty much every evil tyrant in history and their followers were convinced they were fighting against evil, themselves cast in the role of hero. Even Mayan ritual sacrifices, served a "greater good."
There's not enough sadistic fux to pull off mass murder crimes against humanity with sinister smiles and maniacal laughs joyfully proclaiming "evil wins, bioches!"
No. They are all, with rare exception, convinced of their righteousness and courage to fight for a "greater good" as they define it, the deaths of innocent a matter of unfortunate collateral damage.
And as his-story tells it, the side that wins and writes it fought for good while those they defeated fought for evil.
Moral of the story: Win. Winners "fight the good fight."
Ever had that neighbour that is ready to sue over the fence being ½" in the wrong place (despite said fence having built before either of you bought the adjoining properties)?
Or the school marm who had the class line up outside the lunch-room and who would then walk along the line to make sure everyone was exactly 2' apart just because she's the adult and the kids have to obey?
The manager who comes to your office at 1730 Friday afternoon when your vacation starts on Monday, and hands you extra work and overtime, just because you voted against him in some inter-office politicking dealie?
The cop who writes you a ticket for having a busted light, when your car's got both a light-rack and a movable searchlight, and is parked?
If Abe Lincoln was in school today, he could study all night by the gaslight the Democraps are bathing the country in. Ultimately, we must stop relying on others to tell us what's true and (re)learn to think critically, as we did when we were 3 to 6 years old. Dig into the dark corners of our brains and throw out the trash we have allowed to pile up and rot there, and replace it with "The Truth is Out There", whatever that actually turns out to be. Hey. No one said it was going to be easy...
💯 exactly right. As a species, we’ve given away our power to think for ourselves. Time to stop that conditioned / programmed habit. Very true, no one said it was going to be easy.
you nailed it, mickey free! i find it an ongoing process to cut out and remove the brain rot, but it’s well worth the effort. rediscovering the power and joy of primary creativity becomes easier the more one engages in it and even easier when one is in the company of others with common perspectives and goals.
You nailed it. The only reason they are 'shuddering' the SIO is because they have another organization (or 10) doing the same exact work. When one front gets exposed, they shut down that particular piece of the puzzle to provide the illusion of improvement -- but the 'work' never stops.
Same with the NGO’s. Whenever one gets “caught”and shut down or disgraced for their criminal enterprises, they just gravitate into another org or create a whole new one.
Black water is not what it was when Erik Prince owned it and it provided security for the State Department. Hillary screwed him over because she didn’t like him and he paid huge legal bills because State screwed him. He sold to private equity, the type that plays nice with the Beltway.
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.' "
"brace for some fun new psyop for fall to muck with elections again coming from some new as yet unidentified vector be it bird flu, russian attacks on the election, or who knows what else."
They have already telegraphed their intentions: Chris Wray and the FBI have "warned us" that terrorists are here and ready to cause chaos. Iranians? Palestinians? ISIS? Russia? Right-Wing Extremists? A few well-placed bombs and a few civilian massacres, and the government will have this country locked down tighter than a drum. "How can people possibly have an election under these circumstances?" they will say. "We must declare martial law and suspend elections until "Democracy" is safe again." And the terrified public with mostly comply.
on the one hand, this one seems plausible, but on the other, perhaps not.
yes, it's a great pretext to call all things domestic "foreign" and turn the IC loose with jack bauer levels of accountability. BUT, and this is a large but, doing so has a huge cost. they let them all in over the border. it makes them look ineffective and will further demolish brandon's credibility.
they would have to go all in and really start pushing for something like martial law and CISA/DoD taking over elections.
You have a point, but Brandon is pretty much washed up anyway. He and his cabinet will be discredited, and a new puppet will take his place. On the other hand, these types of national emergencies can go on for years. The TSA and Patriot Act are still around almost a quarter century after Binladen and Al Kaida were neutralized. The end result could be the "trivial" implementation of all future elections becoming "federalized", with the states losing their control of the election process, all under the rubric of "safety" and "democracy". The new regime will temporarily shut down the border for a while anyway, because the public opposition to it remaining open is now too large.
The thing about the crowd that Biden runs with -- all their ideas are terrible to the point where it certainly looks like they're destroying the country on purpose. The only people riding in to 'save' the day are the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
"these folks are creative"...yes, but creativity driven by corruption, venality, greed and powerlust can only go so far before it confines itself into a corner, and has to lash out with naked violence when enough people realize they've been lied to for too long and have nothing left to lose. Then all bets are off. A regime only has so many tools in their kit. When they've exhausted all of them, there isn't much left except the truncheons and ever more debased show trials. The rotten edifice starts to implode in a controlled demolition, and suddenly you're in East Germany in 1989.
These people think they live outside of history. They will learn otherwise.
regarding voting machines, I have followed the arguments for years, but found this recent Scott Adams recitation more persuasive than most. Why do we have voting machines at all? Ask for an explanation. The only plausible one left is "to rig elections".
Meanwhile, the cabal is moving forward with the plot in parallel to swap out the dementia / battery-doesn’t-fully-charge-anymore puppet Biden with another puppet. Before the “debate.” 🙄🤣 No one will bat an eye. This “democracy” game is wearing too thin. The cabal wants the emperor game publicly reinstalled. They’re tired of the pretense.
They can’t give up because they are at war and they are not losing the war they are fighting. In fact, their opponent in this war is impotent (at the moment). Where in history can you find an example of an army ending a war they were both winning and succeeding on every front? Maybe some merciful armies of history stopped short of total annihilation soaring women and children or whatever. I can assure you that this army we are up against can’t have any mercy on their opponent because they have actually already lost, they are simply fighting for their lives right now and that won’t end because they’ve been embarrassed. They’re digging in, getting desperate and there are and will be extreme measures deployed.
What are the people in Washington doing, the ones who know these things and know what you speak of and are on our side? Why aren’t they ramping up protection and support of our votes in a way that any unforeseen f**kery cannot penetrate? If the IC can be strategizing and plotting how to deceive, why can’t the other side be strategizing and plotting how to protect??
Over the last 16 years or so in accelerated effort, there has been an enormous and deliberate “culling” of personnel throughout the US Govt, from the military to all the agencies and bureaus of any “wrong thinkers”, either to be outright ousted or severely marginalized.
Most of those left currently in place are loyalists to the Left.
I ask myself and others this question very often. No good answer. I think they are protecting their turf/power. If that is the case, they are no more “ on our side” than the loons mentioned in the article.
If anything, we have come to learn that whoever "they" are, they can never be trusted. Like fauci and pandemics, stanford censorship will be back stronger than ever.
re Dominion "software issues"
I don't understand this whole 'algorithm' thing. You're just counting. The only operation required to generate the results is Addition.
Just something like this: "IF 'yes' for Candidate31 THEN Candidate31.Tally ++." That's it.
What the heck are they algorithmorating? We'd be better off just handing out a bag of marbles to every voter - one color per ballot - and let people walk past a bunch of labelled jars. Display the weights in real time. Know the results the minute the polls close. No Mail-in Marbles.
Stop with this pokery jiggery crap.
complex opacity is a feature, not a bug. this whole company is suspect all the way back to its founding. there is a reason so many countries refuse to let any of this stuff anywhere near their elections.
"hanging sociedads" one software vote at a time
I am so sorry that I missed this earlier when I could've dropped a Dangling Chad joke riiiiiight here.
Lmao!
It's still done with pencil and paper in the UK.
🤔 So you're saying that the people of London really do prefer Sadiq Kahn. 🤔
Again I say 🤔
It's only complex because they WANT it to be complex -- and they want it to be complex so they can cheat.
This is surely true.
One can get a great deal of mileage from saying with endless contempt "you just don't understand" to questioners without the technical expertise to comprehend where the snowing is coming from.
While they somehow obfuscate the fact we're just talking about counting pieces of paper.
Can you believe I'm old enough to remember when Democrats were screaming about Dominion's flaws and their danger to our democracy?
They also decried Diebold...when G.W. won. It's only okay to question in one direction.
You'd think, wouldn't you, that Republican candidates would be smart and clever enough now to make "greatest hits" campaign ads that skewered opposition lies through their black hearts, but...
Was all of 4 years ago........or 2942 years in political time.
During a strange brief flash of honesty not employed for honest purposes.
exactly.
Paper ballots in person, at physical location, counted by real people, with an arbiter in each precinct to resolve any conflicts. And no pussy's allowed. Vote in person.
It sure seems like it would be quicker, at least.
I'm not opposed to Purple Thumbs either.
I've asked myself the same thing. How can this be any more complicated than the machines that graded standardized tests back in the '80s?
Exactly the same thing.
Perhaps I should retcon my education - I really got straight A's but the algorithm made them B's.
Nys, had the best mechanical voting machines ever. Invented there. Giant machines. No fiddling allowed.
And of all places Puerto Rico,where the vote would be tallied in an hour.
There was a whole lot of Move Along in that election.
Say no more, say no more.
No. Really. Say nothing more. If you know what's good for you.
From a now ex-Noo Yawkuh:
You never stop needing to buy roach motels. You just gotta keep changing the placement.
To paraphrase Willie Sutton:
Gumshoe: "Why do you build Roach Motels in Noo Yawkuh?"
Sutton: "Because that's where all the Roaches are."
Good Lord don't build them *in* me.
With all of these stories I inevitably find myself wondering “who are these people?”
Who is the guy that gets up every day and knowingly spies on his fellow citizens and tries to manipulate their thoughts and behavior with lies and trickery?
How many layers of delusion and lying to yourself at the deepest level do you have to be wrapped in to continue doing these things?
Psychopaths? Misanthropes? Actual Demons?
Hard to say.
the IC has a "type." they recruit for "joiners" willing to subsume identity to ideology. they cast it as a war of good against evil and if you have break a few eggs to make that omelet, so be it.
they 100% think they are the good guys and fighting the good fight. "if you knew what we know, you'd understand..."
It shouldn’t shock me after the last four years, but it’s still difficult to wrap my head around someone allowing themselves to be that easily made into a dishonest tool.
i'm interested in the 'profile' of the handlers, and the handler's handler
very
Torquemada with sleeker toys.
"No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!"
https://youtu.be/QqreRufrkxM?si=qFCOmjFtsYKov2g5
I am so grateful to have been young during the era of rude hilarious comedy.
We sure had it good!
We really did. Awful not to see the same for our kids and their kids.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao all thought themselves and their followers were the good guys fighting the good fight. Knowing what they knew and understanding as they did.
Pretty much every evil tyrant in history and their followers were convinced they were fighting against evil, themselves cast in the role of hero. Even Mayan ritual sacrifices, served a "greater good."
There's not enough sadistic fux to pull off mass murder crimes against humanity with sinister smiles and maniacal laughs joyfully proclaiming "evil wins, bioches!"
No. They are all, with rare exception, convinced of their righteousness and courage to fight for a "greater good" as they define it, the deaths of innocent a matter of unfortunate collateral damage.
And as his-story tells it, the side that wins and writes it fought for good while those they defeated fought for evil.
Moral of the story: Win. Winners "fight the good fight."
It’s your nextdoor neighbor.
"I'm sorry, Tim - I didn't get that. *tilts head, stretches lapel in Tim's direction* Could you repeat that, please?"
do you do this for a living?!.....:)
Nah. But it's great money on the side.
🤣🤣
BINGO
Ever had that neighbour that is ready to sue over the fence being ½" in the wrong place (despite said fence having built before either of you bought the adjoining properties)?
Or the school marm who had the class line up outside the lunch-room and who would then walk along the line to make sure everyone was exactly 2' apart just because she's the adult and the kids have to obey?
The manager who comes to your office at 1730 Friday afternoon when your vacation starts on Monday, and hands you extra work and overtime, just because you voted against him in some inter-office politicking dealie?
The cop who writes you a ticket for having a busted light, when your car's got both a light-rack and a movable searchlight, and is parked?
That's who.
lol. yes
My vote is on psychopaths, opportunists, and the gullible.
you forgot Hobbits (Hotez), Elves (Garland) and Gnomes (Fauci)...oh wait they're a subset of the psychopaths.
Winning!
Maybe, but maybe these people really really really just want to be "in the know," so they join and...
They are the villagers of yore who reported the girls who didn't say their prayers properly.
"She turned me into a newt!"
i don't know what the hell ya'll been talking about all day...but it's funny even for the ignorant!
lol
If Abe Lincoln was in school today, he could study all night by the gaslight the Democraps are bathing the country in. Ultimately, we must stop relying on others to tell us what's true and (re)learn to think critically, as we did when we were 3 to 6 years old. Dig into the dark corners of our brains and throw out the trash we have allowed to pile up and rot there, and replace it with "The Truth is Out There", whatever that actually turns out to be. Hey. No one said it was going to be easy...
💯 exactly right. As a species, we’ve given away our power to think for ourselves. Time to stop that conditioned / programmed habit. Very true, no one said it was going to be easy.
The Transnationals own the Demopublicans and maybe the Repocrats too.
Yes they do.
https://patrick.net/post/1381434/2024-06-01-grand-unified-theory-of-recent
you nailed it, mickey free! i find it an ongoing process to cut out and remove the brain rot, but it’s well worth the effort. rediscovering the power and joy of primary creativity becomes easier the more one engages in it and even easier when one is in the company of others with common perspectives and goals.
Your next door neighbor is the next stop. That's the end goal.
Fortunately if you hide "yarn" from cats they'll be more motivated than ever to find it.
You nailed it. The only reason they are 'shuddering' the SIO is because they have another organization (or 10) doing the same exact work. When one front gets exposed, they shut down that particular piece of the puzzle to provide the illusion of improvement -- but the 'work' never stops.
1. that's a funny typo.
2. yeah, it's basically whack a mole without the prizes.
agree
Same with the NGO’s. Whenever one gets “caught”and shut down or disgraced for their criminal enterprises, they just gravitate into another org or create a whole new one.
You won't be surprised to hear that Blackwater is still around and kicking -- now as "Academi".
Black water is not what it was when Erik Prince owned it and it provided security for the State Department. Hillary screwed him over because she didn’t like him and he paid huge legal bills because State screwed him. He sold to private equity, the type that plays nice with the Beltway.
true
interesting
i hear that in the uk PE is about to have a haircut
"Censorship is advertising paid by the government."
I love wearing this Orwell 1984 shirt in front of sheeps 👇
t.co/EKkMWeTAPG
"Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.' "
"brace for some fun new psyop for fall to muck with elections again coming from some new as yet unidentified vector be it bird flu, russian attacks on the election, or who knows what else."
They have already telegraphed their intentions: Chris Wray and the FBI have "warned us" that terrorists are here and ready to cause chaos. Iranians? Palestinians? ISIS? Russia? Right-Wing Extremists? A few well-placed bombs and a few civilian massacres, and the government will have this country locked down tighter than a drum. "How can people possibly have an election under these circumstances?" they will say. "We must declare martial law and suspend elections until "Democracy" is safe again." And the terrified public with mostly comply.
on the one hand, this one seems plausible, but on the other, perhaps not.
yes, it's a great pretext to call all things domestic "foreign" and turn the IC loose with jack bauer levels of accountability. BUT, and this is a large but, doing so has a huge cost. they let them all in over the border. it makes them look ineffective and will further demolish brandon's credibility.
they would have to go all in and really start pushing for something like martial law and CISA/DoD taking over elections.
i just don't think we're quite there.
I vacillate.
What cost is there when virtually nobody is willing to pay the price for freedom?
Seems to me the lowest acquisition cost for control is just the prospect of having the process be the penalty.
They don't need martial law to accomplish the same thing....they just need the threat of taking away peoples Costco privileges.
You have a point, but Brandon is pretty much washed up anyway. He and his cabinet will be discredited, and a new puppet will take his place. On the other hand, these types of national emergencies can go on for years. The TSA and Patriot Act are still around almost a quarter century after Binladen and Al Kaida were neutralized. The end result could be the "trivial" implementation of all future elections becoming "federalized", with the states losing their control of the election process, all under the rubric of "safety" and "democracy". The new regime will temporarily shut down the border for a while anyway, because the public opposition to it remaining open is now too large.
The thing about the crowd that Biden runs with -- all their ideas are terrible to the point where it certainly looks like they're destroying the country on purpose. The only people riding in to 'save' the day are the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Well, Biden's campaign slogan was "Build Back Better." But wait...to build back, that would assume something has been demolished.
Can't Build Back Better if everything is Still Standing.
Perfect timing after Stanford Internet Observatory commissar Renee DiResta published her book called “Invisible Rulers”
"these folks are creative"...yes, but creativity driven by corruption, venality, greed and powerlust can only go so far before it confines itself into a corner, and has to lash out with naked violence when enough people realize they've been lied to for too long and have nothing left to lose. Then all bets are off. A regime only has so many tools in their kit. When they've exhausted all of them, there isn't much left except the truncheons and ever more debased show trials. The rotten edifice starts to implode in a controlled demolition, and suddenly you're in East Germany in 1989.
These people think they live outside of history. They will learn otherwise.
regarding voting machines, I have followed the arguments for years, but found this recent Scott Adams recitation more persuasive than most. Why do we have voting machines at all? Ask for an explanation. The only plausible one left is "to rig elections".
https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1801297256080916562
Prezactly!
like
Meanwhile, the cabal is moving forward with the plot in parallel to swap out the dementia / battery-doesn’t-fully-charge-anymore puppet Biden with another puppet. Before the “debate.” 🙄🤣 No one will bat an eye. This “democracy” game is wearing too thin. The cabal wants the emperor game publicly reinstalled. They’re tired of the pretense.
Steve Forbes: Biden will drop out
https://youtu.be/7qx_U0bfBpg?si=pQj2nbaF6h_DFmp6
They can’t give up because they are at war and they are not losing the war they are fighting. In fact, their opponent in this war is impotent (at the moment). Where in history can you find an example of an army ending a war they were both winning and succeeding on every front? Maybe some merciful armies of history stopped short of total annihilation soaring women and children or whatever. I can assure you that this army we are up against can’t have any mercy on their opponent because they have actually already lost, they are simply fighting for their lives right now and that won’t end because they’ve been embarrassed. They’re digging in, getting desperate and there are and will be extreme measures deployed.
nailed it
Amen. This is for all the marbles. We know God wins. they're fighting for their very lives.
There are days I would not mind looking into the "flashy thing" device.
🙌👍
What are the people in Washington doing, the ones who know these things and know what you speak of and are on our side? Why aren’t they ramping up protection and support of our votes in a way that any unforeseen f**kery cannot penetrate? If the IC can be strategizing and plotting how to deceive, why can’t the other side be strategizing and plotting how to protect??
Over the last 16 years or so in accelerated effort, there has been an enormous and deliberate “culling” of personnel throughout the US Govt, from the military to all the agencies and bureaus of any “wrong thinkers”, either to be outright ousted or severely marginalized.
Most of those left currently in place are loyalists to the Left.
I ask myself and others this question very often. No good answer. I think they are protecting their turf/power. If that is the case, they are no more “ on our side” than the loons mentioned in the article.
C.Y.A.
They're on their own side, not ours.