michael yeadon is one of the more unjustly maligned folks in covid. 5 minutes with google will get you a barrage of ad hominem, epithets, and scurrilous nonsense masquerading as “fact checks” and the classic “if you think this vaccine is poorly designed, you must be an anti-vaxxer!” as though saying “this drug should not be approved” makes you anti-medicine.
this is because cults reserve their most vicious venom not for unbelievers, but for renouncers.
you do not get to take our secrets and dirty laundry out for an airing. cults don’t like that.
and michael came from within the castle at the highest levels but has serious questions about the castellans and has not been afraid to raise them.
and they are NOT happy about it.
he’s been asking the pointy questions and pulling tails when others sat quietly.
(i also know him to be a bad cattitude reader and commenter and so, michael, i hope you read this and would love to speak with you further on this issue. very thought provoking.)
his CV speaks for itself. for those who do not know, yeadon used to be the chief science officer for pfizer.
and has clearly kept his hand in since:
credentials do not make one right or worthy of deference, but credentials like this (especially free from conflict of interest) do speak to specific domain knowledge not only about drugs like these, but drug trials, drug design, autoimmunity, and of pfizer in particular.
so, if naught else, he’s earned a listen.
and i think it’s well worth it.
this is interesting stuff and speaks in the clear simple terms of a real domain expert (instead of the obfuscating jargon of the huckster) to what seem to my mind to be important points and that lead right to a hobbyhorse of mine.
so giddiup.
he raises 3 main points:
to create a vaccine with ongoing efficacy, you should pick the part of the virus that is most genetically stable so it is least likely to mutate away from induced immunity. this means you would never pick the spike protein. (though, as he admits, perhaps this was not known early on, but i also suspect there were strong intuitions in that regard given the reams of data from gain of function and other coronavirus manipulations/serial passaging etc)
you would also pick the part of the virus that is most different from humans. this is a key to side effect mitigation. if you train immune response to something that looks like parts of you, you get auto-immune response. your body attacks itself. this would also lead to not picking spike protein which has some similarity to many parts of humans.
in vaccine design, you select for things that are not toxic in their own right. this, again, points away from using spike protein.
and so we have 3 points that, to use michael’s words “teach away” from selecting spike protein as the target for vaccine design.
and yet, pfizer, moderna, astro zeneca, and JnJ all picked it.
why?
“no team i was ever part of would have picked bloody spike protein for this virus, this vaccine.”
and yet they all did.
and all four should not have made the same mistake.
is it collusion? malfeasance?
i have a theory:
everyone picked basically the same pathway because it all came from the same place: the wuhan institute of virology and the merry band of covid-hotwirers attached thereto.
we know that work like this was going on there and that daszak and baric and many others were up to their necks in it. they were mutating spike proteins in bat coronoviruses and had some plans for releasing gain of function viruses back in to caves of wild bats that read like the origin story for a pandemic movie.
i have written at length on this many times including here: (or google “bad cattitude daszak” and you’ll get a whole string)
in peter’s own words:
so they were working on killers so they could develop cures and the part of the virus they were working on was the spike protein.
so it makes sense that this is what they had best mapped and sequenced.
then the virus leaked.
and suddenly, the need for vaccines became acute. and what was lying around was a whole bunch of work on and characterization of the spike protein. and i think they spread this work to industry to try to clean up their mess and maybe make a buck.
moderna got theirs from NIH (who likely got it straight from some part of the ecohealth/baric ecosystem that they were funding and lying about having funded). they pay the NIH royalties for it.
pfizer got theirs from bioNtech, a previously little known german oncology company that had never brought a product to market nor ever worked in vaccines but that suddenly got a huge investment from WHO paymaster bill gates in september 2019, before the world was focused on covid, but when evidence shows it likely had already leaked and thus when insiders might know and be moving around IP.
i don’t know where AZ and JnJ got theirs.
but it all happened AWFULLY fast. like somebody had a head start. the timelines never made any sense unless there was already something close to complete already lying around.
and this is why i think this thread is one so worthy of pulling and i’ll wager it all leads right back to wuhan from every direction.
they all made the same bad choice because they all got the same crib-sheet from the same source and this is how the teacher catches you: because you all gave the same wrong answer to a simple question on the exam.
some are already trying to re-write history.
the evidence on this looks well past circumstantial to me.
in any sort of just world, this would currently be a matter of endless inquiry and subpoena.
i suspect it’s not because many in this ecosystem already know the answer and desperately do not want to to get loose.
“we funded the disease, lied about it, funded the cure, and got a mountain of unreported royalties for doing so” is not a good look for NIH and their closing of ranks and collusion in discrediting any idea of lab leak despite it being the obvious, leading thesis speaks volumes.
this is the place to dig.
with this much equine excrement, there has to be a pony in here somewhere…
i have spoken with Mike on substack forums before, hes happy to engage with us plebs and doesnt talk down to us, hes a genuine caring person with great intellect and insight into the bullshit. much respect!
Me too. He is super smart, super kind & super principled. If only there were more like him.
Every time I get a like on a comment or reply from Dr. Yeadon, I make a screenshot so that I can share it with my wife.
Thank you Dr. Yeadon.
Now, the contents of my comments that get liked or replied to are, uh, a little scary.
Dr. Yeadon has been able to see things from a lot earlier than most of us who are now learning things piece by piece.
And it is very scary.
2nd that!
Please forgive the strategic reply placement:)
In reference to #1 in which you would ideally pick the most genetically stable part of a virus for ongoing vaccine efficacy and this comment: "though, as he admits, perhaps this was not known early on..."
It was known from the many years of vaccine development against the original SARS and MERS. Comments directly addressing this problem appear in many papers over the last decade+. They 100% knew early on. No maybes about it. After reading all of these articles, nothing could convince me otherwise.
Examples:
• "A “concern is that for SARS-CoV escape from neutralization is driven by spike protein variability; thus, spike-dependent vaccine strategies might require multivalent approaches." (2013)
• "the antigenic variation in the S-protein between CoVs limits the breadth of cross protection against multiple emerging CoVs, and is especially true for S-protein only vaccines.” (April 2020)
• "...SARS vaccines might fail to induce antibodies that protect from infection with divergent strains of SARS-CoV… possibly limiting the effectiveness of monotypic SARS-S vaccines.” (2006)
• “An ideal SARS vaccine should 1) elicit highly potent neutralizing antibody responses against a broad spectrum of viral strains; 2) induce protection against infection and transmission; and 3) be safe by not inducing any infection-enhancing antibodies or harmful immune or inflammatory responses.” (A 2005 CDC publication!)
Further support for the likely limitation in Spike-only vaccine design came from therapeutic monoclonal antibody research:
• “S…becomes the most rapidly evolving protein, with most mutations located in the S1 domain and especially the receptor binding domain.”
They knew what they were doing.
https://pebbleinthepond.substack.com/p/herd-immunity-and-sars-cov-2-98b
*see Lie #6 for many quotes highlighting this.
https://pebbleinthepond.substack.com/p/herd-immunity-and-sars-cov-2-7c7
This is very helpful. Thank you very much.
i love how the like button doesn't work on some of the most important comments
I wish someone would get all of these comments and pointers to Rand Paul or someone in Congress (I pick rand paul because he knows fauci did the GOF financing) and start drilling down on Fauci et al...did you give this info to Biontech, modera, where did you get it from, etc.
Alas not gonna happen. But a terrific idea all of you.
Wow. thanks so much!
Important history there which affirms the Yeadon point. Much accountability to debate.
Edit: I know this was in response to the post...I think.
But I wanted an opinion on a post I made earlier. You seem to know your stuff.
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So for just a regular guy like me, who tries to explain this to other regular guys/gals, was my comment completely stupid?
Maybe over the target?
If it was stupid. that's okay.
Just curious about your opinion.
Ditto thAT!!
Yeah, he was good enough to engage with me too. Entirely likable and approachable.
He identified something nefarious in all this a long time ago—like from the very beginning of the vax campaigns—and was noble enough and courageous enough to speak out.
His concern now, according to his own comments, is how to mobilize and galvanize the public to try to stop the progress and somewhat foil the plans of the toxic entities that are behind the ongoing, headlong crashing of our civilization.
The points about the vax are well taken with that objective in view. In his area of particular expertise, he identified evil intent.
So we are looking at the vax thing. Yeah it’s bad. Bad people did very bad things. Still going on.
Were Dr Yeadon expert in another field, maybe finance, I’m sure he’d be sounding the klaxon from that quarter. We’re being assaulted on several fronts.
He sees a massive organized assault on the world we know/knew and he speaks up in hopes of stirring up a resistance.
If I’ve got that wrong, maybe he’ll read this and jump in to correct me.
But he is right about the broader threat, the threat that would bring the world to its knees in order to behead it.
How do we actively and practically oppose this evil?
So, EVERYONE aware of this evil agenda: get ahold of all the FDA "Future Framework," members and all your elected representatives and tell them the truth.
That they are harming and killing us for profits and power, that the entire SARS-COV-2 event was rife with collision, wickedness and fraud, and that we know. And we will NOT tolerate this lawlessness any longer.
They will BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE for their actions.
Courts, Law Enforcement, Congress, and the University, Medical Systems and Media are all about to face facts and turn, go after the guilty, and hold them liable for the harms to humanity they have wilfully and knowingly created. After all, we are all HUMAN, and this has been an attack on ALL OF US!
Great idea, *however.* lets not be naive either. The only reason anyone from the Nazi regime was tried for crimes against humanity (and the ugly truth is that the US protected an awful lot of the worst ones like Klaus Barbie) was because a bloody war was fought and the victors could do about anything they wanted to the losers.
Ergo, *none* of our current crop of criminals will suffer any retribution or punishment unless and until another war is fought and they are on the losing side and the victors can enact just punishments.
So, short of war (or its equivalent) nothing will happen to the criminals because they are members of the cartel currently controlling the US and the West in general.
I believe in the power of people. Give Edward Dowd a listen. He believes that the corporations involved in this will go down simply because too many of the "upper crust" will realize that they have been seriously harmed, lost loved ones, and may die themselves due to the Pharma Kings and their enablers.
Enough top flight athletes keel over during the game, enough celebrities have their faces on sideways or pull blood clots from their brains, well, s#!t will hit the fan. A few more bodies is all it's going to take.....
Congess is slow, but it's starting to dig.
The facts are all out for those with eyes to see.
These bastards are done. They just may not know it yet.
From your lips to God's ears.
Same here. Love Mike!
Yup, love me some Mike🥰
Is Mike still telling us we are going to die because we got the vaxx which he claims was intentionally created to kill people?
Why would I want to listen to people who tell me I am a dead man walking?
so you dont keep making the same mistake, so you can educate and protect your kids and others.
You might want to check out the "I-Recover Post Vaccine" protocol over at flccc.net
Dr Yeadon doesn't mention it (and I think he should) because it is outside his area of expertise. The folks over at flccc.net have treatments because that is what they do.
Well I got double vaxxed 8 months ago and we drank pine tea before and after which we read was one way to combat any effects.
Looking at the link they seem to believe in long Covid.
Didn't Alex Beresen or this sub stack recently publish a study showing it was a myth and mostly affected women with anxiety disorders?
While Alex gets it right on most issues, he says some things that are TOTALLY untrue, and impossible to get wrong if you do just a little actual looking.
So that leads someone to some interesting conclusions.....
And interestingly, the items he gets "wrong" are the ones that whoever is pulling the strings here REALLY doesn't want the general public to know.
1---Ivermectin works, and works so well it's damn near a miracle.
2- Long Covid is very real, can be induced by the bug, which has been tested in human feces months after an active infection, (my whole digestive system was off for 2 months post Omicron,) and may be a very common side effect for those who took the vax. These people keep getting reinfected! And others believe that many who took the vax have sub-clinical myocarditis. They do still express the spike protien in their lymph glands 90 days after.
And we don't know if some ever stop manufacturing it. So yes, "long -covid" is real. I can think of 10 different mechanisms straight away. Don't forget about those nasty little nano lipid particles running through your body as well, in the vaxxed.
PS for you gentlemen out there:
"Female Hysteria" is the trash can term for anything a male physician cannot comprehend. (When it arrives in a woman.)
Women are different than males and even though this concept shouldn't be difficult to comprehend for their opposite sex, somehow it really is.
Our hormones are massively more complex, we have an entire infrastructure males lack, and as a result have smaller lungs, livers, cardiovascular systems, etcetera. Toxins are much more toxic to us. Our immune systems are more sensitive. Little girls die post vaccination from pneumonia and sepsis, (Guinea-Bissau) at a very high rate. The little black boys get Autism at much higher rates than black girls, post vaccination.
We, the sexes, are different!!
And when men are stumped their classic excuse is to blame the woman. Societies will blame the victims.
Bad human behavior all around. And I include Alex in that assessment. Saying there is no such thing as long covid is an attack on those people dealing with it and stating that there is no evidence for Ivermectin use with SARS-COV-2 is like saying don't give a guy with a heart attack an aspirin. It will get people killed.
I can’t like your post as it seems to be disabled, but “Brava, Katherine!”.
Thank you, Carrots!
It's interesting, isn't, which posts you can't "like!"
I've had that problem once or twice myself. ; ))
Alex does some good journalism but he is totally wrong on Ivermectin and totally wrong when he says that Dr Malone didn't invent the mRNA technology.
Alex is famous (infamous?) for reading the conclusions of studies but nothing else. He actually touted the "TOGETHER" study as proof Ivermectin doesn't work. Even a cursory read by an amateur like me spotted major problems. The study has been shown to be FRAUD.
Long covid is probably the spike proteins lodging in the lungs until your body cleans them out which could take 14-16 months. For some it may be "all in their heads" but a lot are not.
Lastly, My grandmother gave me the best advice of my life:
sleep when you're tired. you're body knows. listen to it.
💕💕💕💕💕💕🐱
🎯🎯🎯
zakrocz -
Personally, I think it's somewhere in the middle. I would take Ray's advice below. Which I'm sure you already are.
I think the "depopulation" aspect; is NOW - We've entered the "malice" phase.
IMO it's "depopulation" by virtue of the initial incompetence, followed by the interlude...and then the variant specific vaccines, which are part of the cover-up.
It's depopulation by attrition. I think the initial two shots you'll survive. But it has weakened you're immune system.
You'll live. Sounds like you've arrested the initial "damage". Like the liver, the immune system has a remarkable ability to heal itself. But, right now, yours needs rest.
Stay healthy and get plenty of daylight, but be weary of the chronic waves of re-infection due to vaccine driven variants.
In the end, I think the unvaccinated will be affected as well.
Even if their health survives in tact, the supply chain will be life changing for all.
That's exactly what I tried to tell my friends two years ago.
I think this covid nonsense will turn into a Dark Harvest for a couple hundred million people in the world. I could see 300-500 mil deaths as a result of this fool's play.
Shit runs down hill. The least among us will pay the dearest.
None of those Karen's thought of the obvious, because they can't see beyond themselves.
It's rather disgusting if you think about it.
It’s true. The horrific immensity of the situation hasn’t even seeped into their consciousness. It remind minds me of the story: Mask of the Red Death by Poe. People of means thought they could avoid the plague, they could not
Mask of the Red Death. Goodness that's been a long time ago since I read that. Great memory and quite a cautionary Tell-Tale "Heart" of our nation
I was a mere child 🙂 It really shaped my thinking though. I was struck by the arrogance of the rich. Nice play on Tell Tale heart. Besides I am a huge Vincent Price fan as well as Poe.
perhaps you're a bit weird like me...:)
life would be no fun, if you weren't imo
Definitely weird and gutsy. Dangerous combo
i think that's why we see through all this crap.
Since there's a lot of discusison about what Mike Yeadon said concerning people dying from the vaccines, I did a search and found a transcript of the video I rememerbed hearing, which I referenced in my comment earlier. Here's the link to an auto-generated transcript of his well-known "Final Wartning to Humanity" video: https://www.heartmindhealing.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Dr-Michael-Yeadon-Warning.pdf (There's a link to the video itself in the document.)
NB: He made this video July 2021. That was the Halcyon days of the shots, when there was not yet much tallk in the mainstream press about vaccines failing or wearing off. As Mike points out, they were already talking about boosters then, but the stated reason was "variants". He calls BS on that and says that's our warning that they're lying to us. Now we have the added warning that they completely switched the rationale for the boosters. So the boosters were the point from the very beginning, and they have now used two successive bogus arguments for them. Why this a priori commitment to boosters? Mike says he can see no possible reason except serious malfeasance.
All throughout his remarks, he always references mass depopulaiton in the context of the "top up" vaccines (his phrase for boosters). Here's one extended quote from the talk where he does that. But he repeats this argument numerous times. It's the boosters that he's warning us about. I don't think he ever said that a two-shot regimen was going to lead to mass deaths.
"if they're lying, and they are, why is the pharmaceutical industry making top up vaccines, they are making them, you should be terrified at this point as I am, because there's absolutely no possible justification for their manufacture. But they're being made and the world's medicines regulators have said, because they're quite similar to the original vaccines, the ones that are being given now, we won't be asking them to do any clinical safety studies. So let me just say, again, the variants are not different enough to represent a threat to use, you do not need to top up vaccines yet they are being made, and the regulator's have more or less wave them through. I'm very frightened of that. There's no possible benign interpretation of this. I believe that they're going to be used to damage your health and possibly kill you. Seriously, I can see no sensible interpretation other than a serious attempt at mass depopulation.
This will provide the tools to do it. plausible deniability because they will create another story about some sort of biological threats. And they will line up and get your top up vaccines and a few months or a year or so later, you will die of some peculiar, explicable syndrome, and they won't be able to associate it with the top up vaccines. But that's my belief that they're lying to you about variants. So they can make damaging top up vaccines that that you don't need to draw. And I think they will be used for malign purposes. And if you don't wake up, that's what's going to happen."
I did the same thing and went back and read a transcript of the video.
My original comment was harsh and reflected where my emotions were at the moment I wrote it.
Fear is no reason to hide the truth. We are all dead men walking in some respects.
Resource for vaxed people …This is straight from the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance.
I-RECOVER: Post-Vaccine Treatment
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-recover-post-vaccine-treatment/
If I recall Michael Yeadon’s words correctly, he foresaw a “mass casualty event”. Whether he anticipated this due to the damaging effects of the shots or the population-level repercussions of a sub-optimal vaccination program, or both, I cannot recall. By now, many medical practitioners and scientists are working on protocols to help those with post-jab/post-infection issues, so I’d hope he’s also dispensing some hope in that regard. Personally, though, it is my observation that those who took the shots have no interest in entertaining the possibility that they may be (or have been) harmed as a result; therefore, they would likely forego any possible post-jab/post-infection treatment. If the number of people in this camp is large enough and the serious short/medium/long term consequences are prevalent enough, then Yeadon’s original warning holds. Time will tell but I understand there is reason for individual optimism, even if the masses remain obstinate.
"there is reason for individual optimism" - Exactly. Dr Marik has said that the damage can be fixed and others like Dr Flemming have said "Don't give up hope, we can fix this". Given that the doctors who got results doing early treatment for the disease are saying these things lends it a lot of credence.
The problem, as you pointed out, is getting people to admit there's a problem.
MIke didn't tell us we're going to die if we take the vaccone. He said from early on that the vaccines presented a population-scale risk and that you'd probably be OK if you take it, but the booster program presents a risk of mass casualties from the shots. I think events are sahowing that he knew what he was tlaking about.
talk to dr fauci. he will make you feel better.
This is one of umpteen-million reasons I crowned Mike the King of Integrity (to Tess Lawrie’s Queen of Integrity) in my one-year Substack anniversary post (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/my-one-year-substack-anniversary). He is menschness incarnate and has a purity of heart that made him initially naive to the level of corruption in BigPharma, but once he awakened to it, he pulled out every available stop to expose it. I have admired Mike since his “Planet Lockdown” interview was published and am unspeakably grateful to count him among my closest friends today.
I always feel a tinge of melancholy when I encounter someone like Michael Yeadon, as I know I’ll never have the pleasure of meeting them; and that is taking nothing away from all the remarkable people I have had the great pleasure of knowing personally. If I could get a backstage pass to meet everyone whose tireless work I have consumed and benefited from these past couple years, now that would be something...
Never assume never! One of my subscribers/friends recently met with RFK Jr., Peter McCullough, Pierre Kory, Robert Malone, and Paul Marik at an FLCCC event. You never know when you’ll have an opportunity to connect :-)
My favorite Yeadon remark - circa April 2021 - rehearsing a rhetorical question:
"Why is my government lying to me? Because they are going to kill you."
There are plenty of Yeadon video interviews out there. His definitive written statement probably is: https://doctors4covidethics.org/the-covid-lies/
It's a 32 page PDF but reads very quickly. Part 1 is a detailed point by point position paper. Part II is more speculative. Page 24 has a real shiver-your-timbers claim, which I have encountered nowhere else: "NHS stockpiled a year’s supply of midazolam by ordering it normally but banning 2019 prescriptions" - read further for context - and speculation.
I actually retrieved the above link via a google search but only after wading through a page and half of the "fact checkers"! He is perhaps the most "debunked" man in the universe!
Most debunked? I'd put money on Wakefield - he's been in the 'getting debunked' chair a lot longer. (Winky emoji conceptually inserted.)
Yes, the assassination of Wakefield's character is one of the worst ever.
How about the untimely death of Kary Mullis, the inventor of the PCR test?
Seems conspicuous to me?
My thought as well
Mine was him pointing out being tested in car parks.
I get all my health testing done in a field. 🤦🏻♀️
I love making sport of all the shit.
How about all the long lines of people getting tested, not obeying the iron-clad 6 foot rule?...with their mask on outside!
A weird combination of sheep, Pavlovian dogs and masochist, all scrummed together.
It just doesn’t make sense. It’s not logical. But they keep doing it. I’m getting a headache from all my solitary head shaking.
The high volume medicine was truly impressive. I had to get vaccinated to keep doing what I want to do which includes traveling. Also to keep from being denied medical care (here in CA that is going on). Both of the first two doses were in the drive-through multi-lane high volume superhighway of medicine. Impressive and scary. I said to my wife that I fear this is the future of medicine. First test (to be allowed to get my foot fixed) was a drive through. My wife was with me and her stare kept me from asking "can I get fries with that?"....
Part of the experiment.
Why are politicians lying? Because it is what happens when they move their lips...;-)
It is well known in the firefighting community that pyromaniacs are attracted to volunteering in the firefighting services and a significant proportion of fires are deliberately lit by the pyromaniac firefighters.
I suspect Baric and Daszak are 'viromaniacs'
Yep. It sounds like human nature across all domains. That is why I am increasingly wary about spending much time in a hospital, unless it is to visit someone.
stay the hell away from all things doctor and hospital. they probably will kill you. Last time I saw the doc he told me so himself.
My granddad lived to 106, sharp as a tack 'til the end. His secret? "Eat honey every day and stay away from doctors."
My grandmother lived to 99. Same thing. She NEVER went to the doctor. Hated hospitals, though she volunteered in one. She believed in taking the stairs, not the elevator. And she laid on her back on her bedroom floor and bicycled her legs in the air every morning for ten minutes. She ate everything. Didn’t overeat and didn’t drink. She wasn’t a talker, but when she spoke, she spoke her mind.
She sounds like my granddad's sister from another mister! He didn't drink, either (got all his ya-yas out as a young man and then never touched the stuff), was deeply devoted to God, a voracious reader, ate whatever he pleased in moderation, did hard physical work for much of his life (was still climbing trees and putting a roof on his house in his 90s), kept his own bees and a garden, lived in the mountains with clean air and spring water, and most important (I think), like your grandmother, never hesitated to speak his mind! 😂 He did not suffer fools, so I'm pretty sure his head would've exploded if he'd lived long enough to see this... he got out just in the nick of time.
Incredible. They don’t make ‘em mike that anymore. I really miss that generation.
Me, too.
Yep. Me, too. 😢
My long-time doc told me in 2021 that I should take the jab (which I declined), so about the same as killing patients.
My doc is a would be killer/pill pusher.
I only go when all my own methods fail, that is maybe 3 or 4 times in 10 years. Doc told me I am now of an age that I should come in every year. I told him I stay away from him if not necessary, and he answered, yes, I know, doctors can kill you. I think doctors and hospitals are the third killer in the US. And that is from what we know.
Mine is a Kaiser doc…enough said
Mine’s VA
God bless you!
Optum --- Optum-al for them.
Just saw my obese, sugar promoting PCP. He only wanted to push pills snd vaccines. He hassled me about seeing a female for my PAP. Ugh!!
Ugh! It had never occurred to me before, but my eyes are wide open now, that medicine is just another corrupt, industrial complex, where the original purpose has been subsumed to greed & big business.
I am glad to know it now, but it’s still shocking to me
It's sad, too. Way back, you needed the doctor to help set broken limbs, suture gaping wounds, and remove bullets. (Probably have watched too many Westerns.) 😕
Bandit, my grandfather, father & uncle were physicians, back when they were independent & did those things & for the right reasons. We kids practically had to be on our death beds to get an aspirin, much less any other meds, when I was growing up. I’ve seen it all, & that’s how much it has changed.
There's nothing better than an independent doctor!
Where do we find one!
I think functional doctors are all independent, they don't take insurance. --- Other than them, if I find one, I'll let ya know.
In support of your contention that they likely had a head start on making the vaccine, consider that it's been over two years and they still don't have a vaccine for any variants that emerged after the wild-type virus made its debut. And they supposedly developed the current vaccine in something like 36 hours after obtaining the genome of the virus.
I am amazed no one seems to remember this - how they had the sequence ready in 2 days, but somehow were never able to replicate that parlor trick for Delta, Omicron 1, Ba 1,2 3, 4, 5.. to infinity
That's a great observation of a plainly obvious fact and why I always read the comments sections to any article.
I'll add that I remember that both Pfizer & Moderna said they needed 100 days to alter the vaxx for omicron. Nothing ever came of this as far as I know and the original formula continues to be used.
I think the Omicron shot (it's not a vaccine) is in trials now. Of course, it's the original variant which is no longer in circulation - so not clear how valuable that will be.
The odd thing is that moderna pivoted to a "bivariant" version that included the original strain. Igor speculates it's because of OAS. From the article:
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/try-not-to-laugh-at-modernas-omicron
They also decided, instead of a pure Omicron Ba.1-based mRNA, to use a “bivalent vaccine”, which is a mix of the Ba.1 vaccine and Wuhan-variant vaccine.
Why, may I ask, add a two-years-ago extinct Wuhan variant? I would like others to weigh in, but my own explanation is that the pure Ba.1 vaccine did not work well at all due to Original Antigenic Sin, so they had to make a change on April 11.
I wonder - if someone has received none of the shots yet - if they would be better to use a Omicron or bivariant version (assuming they were so inclined)?
Thank you, but I am not so inclined.
Oh, I understand. Just trying to think through the logic pattern if I have any vaccine-free friends who ask.
Does one make more sense than the other - or will they just be another p*ss poor excuse for a vaccine... that "works" for a month or two, and then you're back to Square 1 again.
I would imagine any VFree people still in existance have already sacrificed quite a lot for going against The Science. Hard to imagine they'll jump on board now.
Correct. Never. Ever. I’m 74. Only one I know my age unjabbed. Yes. It has been hard. Especially last fall when the hysteria ramped up. It’s better for now. I feel kind of free.
What has been so surprising about Substack commenters in general is that the majority seem to be over age 50. Where are the younger people who will be far more impacted?
I think the consideration would be that any variant-specific jab you take will be out of date after awhile, especially if it is based on spike protein. Better to have a vaccine which exposes you to the whole virus if we have to have a vaccine.
The perplexing thing is the bivalent shot is still injecting the original mess that started OAS. It is clear the original did not work as a deterrent or prevention to illness. So anyone taking it is getting more of the same poison. Effectively another booster. Igor may have eluded to this.
That is a great point. Thanks!
that is similar to russian roulette using two shells.
A spike protein "vaccine" to an extinct variant or the wild type itself has no benefit in terms of preventing infection or stopping spread, the antibodies do not recognize or stop the present set of variant viruses. So in terms of infection prevention, it has no value.
That's mostly how my mind thinks about it, but always open to input in case someone has considered something I haven't. Thanks!
My guess: negative value.
In answer to the constant question, "What in god's name are They doing NOW?!" does anyone think that there is even one criminal among this gang who is not now making his *every* decision on CYA principles alone? (While still trying to wring every possible penny of profit from crime, of course.)
In addition, ALL of them are still under EAU only, correct? If these are so “safe & effective”, why haven’t the corrupt entities green lighted full approval?
Oh, they did for Comirnaty. The one that will never be produced. If they had full approval, it would be possible to sue the vaccine companies - and who wants that?
Yes, I knew about that one but just the fact that it “will never be produced” speaks volumes
It's in use in many other jurisdictions around the world, just not anywhere that it would be subject to the laws of the United States ...
I need an official statement of this fact (comirnaty, fda approved, not available in USA). It used to be on Pfizer’s own website as of last august 2021 but I can’t find it anymore. My boss (and everyone else) doesn’t believe they’re not getting the fda approved. I’ve asked pharmacists and medical people administering this drug yet none of them will show me a vial that says comirnaty. They either don’t know anything about the names of the drug (scary) or they just say the ingredients are the same (scary)! I’m a nurse and will not administer any vaccine or EUA medication’s.
re: "they just say the ingredients are the same" ~ it's my understanding that the ingredients ARE the same and that the distinction is a LEGAL one ~ the classic "different in name only" ~ and one Pfizer engineered in order to maximize profit until they could get their U.S. product on the childhood vax schedule. I will look for the issue of "The Defender" from CHD from (I think) October, in which RFK lays out the relevant facts.
I remember them saying it had slight differences. It’s truly stunning how they lie with impunity. I often wonder why they even did any trials much less documented them. They could’ve just made everything up in their favor. Why are they bothering with keeping VAERS? They could do away with it and no one could protest. It’s super maddening that this craziness is happening!
Two different "They's" at issue here ...
The manufacturers do their own testing and trials, following the time-honoured fox/henhouse protocols. I believe this was permitted by the 1986 Act on childhood vaccines (not sure).
VAERS is maintained by the U.S. government, specifically the CDC. This also arises from the 1986 Act, which is not being adhered to, in several respects.
Will this help? https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
And this: https://www.ronjohnson.senate.gov/2021/10/sen-johnson-continues-to-press-the-fda-pfizer-biontech-on-transparency-and-politicization-of-vaccine-approval-process
The first link doesn’t say that comirnaty is not manufactured in USA. Does that mean it is currently being manufactured in USA? If so, why can I not find a vial labeled Comirnaty?
Last August, 2021, Pfizer website did state they were not going to manufacture Comirnaty in the ISA….it’s no longer there. I need a current and official fda or Pfizer link stating Comirnaty is not available in USA.
The closest I found to that was the link to Ron Johnson's page - he's a senator and from what I can tell, credible. If it's urgent, perhaps you could get further clarification from his office? He seems to be the only one who gives a damn about vaccine injuries.
Not urgent as I have a lawyer helping me keep my job at the moment however I want to show my employer that the Comirnaty is not available and therefore the people are still being forced to take an experimental drug. And for those who are not forced are taking it because they’ve been told it is fda approved…but it’s a lie.
Dr Meryl Nass advised that when it was "approved" - to go where Pfizer is offered, say you want Comirnaty, be told it's not available, take a picture of the vial with a date stamp. Good that you have a lawyer. It is criminal to force people to take that thing to keep jobs or school. May the force be with you.
Christine, two issues in August 2021 of "The Defender," the newsletter of Children's Health Defense, which is RFK Jr.'s organisation, lay out a lot of the facts relevant to this. The first is in the 8/24/21 issue and was written by RFK and Meryl Nass, M.D., and is at https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/mainstream-media-fda-approval-pfizer-vaccine/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=f34e5fbf-195c-4ff7-b4db-8f5b98964da7 and the second is in the 8/31/21 issue and was written by Megan Redshaw, and is at https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/cdc-endorses-fda-approval-pfizer-covid-vaccine-age-16-older-missing-data/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=69d4a333-376c-400f-8ffa-0cdb644593cb
These are awesome, thanks!! However, my employer won’t entertain CHD “antivaxxer” story. I need it to come directly from fizer or fda. Thanks so much for your efforts!
I would start with real live, in person pharmacists. Tell them you want Comirnaty and if they say it's not available, ask them to put that in writing, and go from there. (Ask how can they be sure it's not available? Do they have that fact in writing themselves ~ from the government, the manufacturer (Pfizer), or a supplier? etc., etc.) Good luck!
Christine, I agree w/ DAM. Just curious how you avoid it if your hospital or clinic gives them &/or if a patient comes in wanting one?
My facility hires CVS to give Covid shots. For the other vaccines (flu, shingles, pneumonia) I dodge the orders which I could get into trouble for passing orders onto the next nurse but so far I’ve been getting away with it.
Well that’s just really great of you to risk that. Bless you
Thank you for your integrity.
Because They (meaning, Big Harma) don't want that until They have Their replacement liability shield in place it the form of the CDC's placing Their vax on the Childhood Vaccination Schedule ... coming any moment now! This is why Comirnaty has not been made available in the U.S. ~ because it has no liability protection here due to not being authorised for emergency use OR recommended (yet!) for children ...
Can you locate anything on Pfizer’s website explaining that they have not started manufacturing Comirnaty? I swear it used to be on Pfizer’s website! I should have saved it!!
They change what They publish on-line on a 24/7 basis. Crime is a full-time job. The FDA is the same. I would be ASTOUNDED to find a definitive statement by Them on there. Plus, we know that They HAVE been manufacturing it, but none of the COVID vaccines anywhere in the world have been purchased by anyone other than a GOVERNMENT, and the U.S. government is NOT going to purchase a single vial of Comirnaty until it is "safely" (meaning safe for Bourla et alia) on the CDC's childhood vax schedule. :(
Have you tried 'phoning pharmacies anonymously, as a vaccinee wannabe, and asking them if they have "FDA-approved Comirnaty vaccine for COVID?" The pharmacists might have at least a lead on where, if anywhere, to get it. If they say, "It's not available in the U.S.," you could ask when it WILL be, and just try to get what info you can. If your boss is ACTUALLY interested in the facts, the Kennedy piece in The Defender should tell him a lot ...
I read that moderna had the genome in 2017 and the american military owns parts of it since somewhere in the early 2010s. The virus dates from 2003 or 2004 when it might have escaped from a lab in Wuhan LOL
My understanding is that the Chinese Military believe SARS 1 was also bio-engineered.
yes I read at the time that they thought it to be a lab escapee.
Sounds like forethought to me. I'm not sure how yet, but my gut is the variant specific vaccines are part of the cover-up
When I hear people speak of Dr. Mike Yeadon, it is not just with respect but affection. He's given up so much in order to speak out. If history doesn't remember him as one of the heroes, it will be a travesty.
Thank you, Dr. Yeadon, for all that you do.
So in essence, they effed up, then panicked, then kept silent and then profited from their effing up the human genome for all future.
Where do I sign up for firing squad detail?
First things first. Start heating up the tar and gathering the feathers.
Go Bad Cat and Mike Yeadon!
I and my friends here in Japan have avoided the first jab, but I am guessing that like the slow but steady creep of digitalization and central control of fiat currency, incentives have just about run their course. After the summer elections have solidified the super majority LDP's ruling base, I expect incentives will rapidly turn into mandates ... for 'our protection' of course. I agree with Mike ... collusion and malfeasance by those running this depression-era protection-racket. If I live through Halloween this year, I'll plan to dress up like either Al Capone or Anthony Fauci. Same suit. Same mask.
Cheers from Japan and keep up the good fight!
Does that mean you will never take the shot?🤞🏻
Not by own free will ... and certainly not with any informed consent about what's in those damn things and what they actually do to me.
They knew the spike protein was itself an agent of disease very early in the game. Maybe they were fed it by Wuhan Cronies, but they still knew it was toxic and still decided to have our own cells reproduce it in the billions within our own bodies.
If they were just mucking around with coronaviruses for fun and profit (with DoD and NIH funding), why the HIV inserts? Wuhan lab research from this year shows that sars-cov-2 spike enters CD4+ T cells using the same pathway as HIV. It has the segments and the function.
What benign purpose could be served by that? If you want to chalk this all up to gain of function research designed to locate potential pandemic strains that might emerge into humans, why add HIV segments?
I won't even get into the things that are being discussed now regarding amyloid and prions because we never should have let the HIV inserts pass by. Their mention in the original, high quality paper made Fauci go on red alert.
I spent a lot of time trying to come up with an explanation that makes those inserts explainable as some sort of mistake or research and I have not been able to find a plausible one. I would like to hear one. Until I do, I have to work from the assumption that the spike protein is a bioweapon loaded with as many nasty bits as they could fit in.
I agree with you. Like they threw in everything they could think of to see what would happen...
"and this is how the teacher catches you: because you all gave the same wrong answer to a simple question on the exam."
Would be nice if our presstitute class had the observational skills & questions of an eight year old.
It's crazy to me that Fauci and his gang STILL haven't had to answer tough questions from a hostile audience.
Not even questions with a pinch of curiosity from the fawning sycophants.. truly gag worthy. These same tools are first to say Julian Assange is not a journalist. Indeed where in corp media do the presstitutes expose the crimes of the powerful or afflict the comfortable?
Well, if the powerful or comfortable have (R)s after their names......
My views are heavily colored by a Washington career that spanned from Watergate to Bush Sr election when I left too sick about the corruption to be part of it anymore. To me there aren't actually two parties there are market sector representatives with 35 lobbyists per head producing legislation that will never be read by the body of Wall Street collaborators whose only job is to keep taxpayers mollified and patrons fed. :~)
Please share more PamelaDrew. There is a worthy story here.
Random riffs with pics at my Substack and feet in the street at Flickr! :~)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pameladrew/albums/with/72157642150732764
The toughest questions came from a Mexican comedian:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/eugenio-derbez-grills-fauci-interview/
The media is thoroughly corrupt, bought and PAID. They aren’t stupid, this is FASCISM!
Except if you consider that perhaps to them it wasn't a wrong answer at all, rather a controlled, purposeful experiment with certain aspects tweaked to provide data for future applications. I don't buy the incompetence argument after reading so many relevant published studies since 2003. I buy the greedy, megalomaniacal, god-complex, mad-scientist, ethically-compromised, morally-bereft argument.
They knew what they were choosing to test and likely pitfalls/knowledge gaps, but they wanted the data at a large enough scale to be most useful going forward (I happen to think that's also a key motivation for the recent EUA approval for infants and toddlers- they need this demographic to round out the experiment; the possible benefit towards becoming part of the childhood schedule, not mutually exclusive). Not just for coronaviruses but other vaccines, future or current. It's hard not to think that maybe they got impatient/frustrated going about research the same old way if you read hundreds of previous SARS, MERS, Zika vaccine studies and prior comments from Fauci, study authors, etc.
Additionally I've theorized that this could be a reason for the widespread silencing and discouragement of early treatment, because it would have ruined their vaccine data in terms of confounding variables and sufficient clean numbers.
"presstitute"!!!! New one to me--Love it!
Not sure if he coined it but I got it from Paul Craig Roberts who was Asst Treasury Sec under Reagan and for way over a decade been a harsh critic of Banksters and Deep State.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/
Nice!
Being ill is not the normal human condition.
Being ill when one is young is particularly abnormal.
Being ill when one is young during the summer is even more of an aberration.
I am seeing many young people coming down with summer colds and fevers and "flu-like symptoms" this year in numbers which are undeniable.
These young people where I live are a highly "vaccinated" demographic. No shortage of psychotic, hypochondriacal parents (who are also getting sick repeatedly) around here.
Pretty sure I know what is causing this.
Got a call yesterday from a friend who said that our planned get-together had to be cancelled because guess what. Let slip that they got vaccinated a month ago. I said, that's interesting. I haven't been vaccinated and I haven't had any problems. Oh, well, I know, (they said) but let's not talk about this now . . . So ok.
Wonder when they will want to talk about it? Booster #5 ?
My pureblood kids have a cold right now. I think it was people caging their children for more than a year and not letting them freely mix and pick up and fight off the germs they normally would.
100%. "Natural boosting" didn't occur naturally over 2+ years, surely handicapping us as a population against other viruses.
We tried as hard as we could to keep the kids out and about from the beginning. But with school closed for a year and no one else letting their kids out there weren’t many germs available.
Let's call it the "Gates Disease."
We're gonna need Victory Gardens of lavender because the stink is gonna be incapacitating, once the septic tank overflows.
Lol. Thinking we might need something stronger then lavender!
Well if we all do our part...
Couldn't have said it better myself !
As we all know, Covid vaxx is a very harmful fraud. Mike Yeadon is one of my Covid heroes also.
That said, there was a reason why they picked "spike protein" as the vaccine antigen. Spike protein is what the virus presents on the outer surface, and thus is the most logical thing to make antigens for.
The main reason why it mutated was the vaccine.
The covid vax debacle shows that vaccine development is very complicated (and also that the vaccine science is largely fraudulent). Not all vaccines lead to immunity, and that is to put it mildly.
i'm not so sure about this, esp as mRNA vaccines are not even really showing you spike protein per se but rather the effects manifest on your own cell membranes once cells have been taught to code for protein.
as an MOA, this was always pretty fraught in terms of capacity to generate sterilizing immunity. it's akin to teaching your night watchman to spot fires, but not arsonists.
this "inoculation" has never really shown you the virus, just its effects.
as a modality, it (and adenovirus carrier) never really made much sense vs using actual virus/viral segment as traditionally effective vaccines have.
all this new-new tech emerging at once around such unified targets at such high speed leaves me deeply suspicious we have a common source for the science.
"as a modality, it (and adenovirus carrier) never really made much sense vs using actual virus/viral segment as traditionally effective vaccines have."
How has the efficacy of the traditional SARS-CoV-2 vaccines compared to the mRNA and viral vectors? It's looking like Novavax is fraught with many of the same issues as the other Western vaccines, and then we hear about the disappointing performance of the Chinese vaccines, but that's of course through a Western lens which will presumably have bias (if not outright lies).
One thing to know is that there never was (and still there is not any) successful vaccine against any coronavirus.
Another is that there never was a successful mRNA product. The only success of Covid vaxx is making money for Bourla and Bancel.
I would have thought that perhaps, just perhaps, the traditional inactivated vaccines may perform a little better over the long term since they should allow for a wider breadth of immunity. But even in that scenario, the person is still getting injected with harmful proteins, and the Chinese vaccines throw in aluminum as an adjuvant. I also recall reading about 3rd doses of the Chinese vaccines being required very early on due to poor immune activation. I'm confident that none of the vaccines are both safe and effective.
I think they had their sights on the toxoid vaccines such as tetanus. I also think it was always about winging it on antibody levels instead of providing sterilising immunity. If viewed through the profit lens, the most volatile and immunogenic protein is perfect because you can both dazzle people with antibody titers while at the same time keep people coming back every year for the latest version like the flu. The last thing disasters capitalism wants is permanent solutions.
Vincent Raccianello, provaxxer virologist, said they picked the spike because it was quick and cheap.
Did anyone read a Professor Bollox’s(can’t remember his full name) tweet about Mike’s video saying it was nonsense?
I agree with you that the spike would seem a likely target...stomp out the infection before it takes root. But, elsewhere in this same interview, Dr. Yeadon says he warned them off the spike because it is biologically active and dangerous. He also warned that it was too close to human protein and would increase the risk of autoimmunity.
The whole notion of mRNA or VV-DNA tech for vaccines seems stupid to me. It is a recipe for autoimmunity, even if the spike protein isn't close to human proteins because the spike is presented on the surface of human cells. How is the immune system supposed to distinguish between self and other? I developed two autoimmune conditions within weeks of my first and only flu infection, so, perhaps, I was more attuned to the potential risks.
We were told that coronaviruses were stable (unlike influenza viruses), but they're not. We were told the LNPs stayed local to the injection site, but they don't and the "experts" knew it. We were told the spike was presented to the immune system on the cell surface and would not detach and enter the blood/lymph system, which is not true. The question is really what did they know and when did they know it.
Why did they pick the spike protein as the target? The Bad Cat makes a good point. It was available, and they were in a panic. IMO, Yeadon sees a more diabolical reason. This was a feature, not a bug.
Perhaps the most disorienting aspect of the last two years has been watching people like Michael Yeadon, Pierre Kory, Robert Malone, Peter McCullough run right past me. I've thought many thoughts I didn't want to think, and I've read some crazy stuff. I've tried not to panic or judge. I just place ideas and theories on my "What the Hell is Going On?" shelf for later consideration. All of the men listed above (and many others) started out thinking we were dealing with incompetence, maybe some hubris, probably some greed. My read on all of them now is that they think this is deliberate, on purpose for a purpose. I still hold out hope, but it's getting harder to dismiss the idea that this is more than your garden variety incompetence and greed. No doubt, there are many useful idiots who have drunk the kool-aide and don't understand what is really afoot. I suspect most physicians fall into this category, but ignorance is no excuse.
Why didn't the "experts" choose multiple antigen targets? You can listen to Peter Hotez explain their thinking to Congress in March 2020. Turns out, multiple targets (which would include attenuated whole virus, I presume) dramatically increase the risk of ADE.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4873497/user-clip-hotez-coronavirus-vaccine-safety-testimony
RE: the Hotez clip: Paraphrasing-- A decade ago they moved to Texas to create a school for developing vaccines for diseases that don't make money...they haven't seen the big pharma guys rushing in to fill this space for coronavirus vaccines...Took a decade, but I'd say they solved that funding problem.
Going off of memory here, gonna have to dig through my old notes. While it's true that some studies showed that S-only vaccines might be less at risk of ADE/VED, there were also studies that showed the combo of S- and N- might be superior (gotta double check) or that certain adjuvants might be problematic. After looking into this question, I came to the conclusion that at that time the results to date were conflicting, but they had to test something. Also the RBD that he specifically mentions is an even smaller component of the Spike. But in different studies was shown to be a highly variable portion that some papers said may not be an ideal candidate for neutralizing antibodies due to immune evasion or even selecting for variants. They knew the trade-off they were possibly making, in even the best of circumstances.
Most concerning to me were two different things, however. #1) I was deeply disturbed that previous studies on average only challenged the test animal a few weeks after finishing the vaccine series. Given that a leading theory for ADE proposes that waning immunity against the pathogen is a key cause, how does making claims about ADE, when test animal immunity is at peak, make any sense at all?
Answer: it doesn't. Maybe they didn't want to report negative outcomes, so they looked when they knew it wasn't likely to be present, thereby fixing their results to show the research in more favorable light. It's also more costly to extend studies and maybe lifespan of animals comes into play, but I can't help but smell publication bias. Whatever the reason, the study construct seems inadequate to best answer that question.
#2) Animals that are used to test coronavirus vaccines and ADE are not able to replicate the severe pathology that occurs in humans. If the test animal doesn't show severe symptoms (with the associated pathology?), how can you get meaningful answers about such a topic? Surrogate markers would likely only get you so far. Again, seems rather inadequate, even if they have no other option.
To me, their knowledge regarding coronavirus vaccines and ADE was half-baked at best. One of the many reasons it seemed the opposite of cautious to disseminate them so widely, so fast. (In the clip he specifically says they need to be extremely cautious and go slow...)
I agree with all your points. Hotez is no longer concerned about going slowly, is he?
If memory serves, they skipped the animal trials altogether for the SARS2 jabs.
They either want to kill us (which is what Michael Yeadon fears/thinks), or they don't much care if they kill us. Neither bodes well for the future.
And as I recall: all the animals in the original mRNA studies died or were severely affected when introduced to the wild virus …. And the studies were abandoned
I think it was pretty evident from the get go,when they shut down HCQ,and then IVM. NO EARLY TREATMENT ALLOWED! THIS GOV ENTITIES ARE ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF SCUM IN THE WORLD. ALL THEY SAW WAS DOLLAR SIGNS!
As I understand, they also chose spike because the N protein was problematic with the first sars vaccine failure due to ADE issues.
correct
Interesting 2 minute video with one of Brook Jackson's lawyers, summarizing Pfizer's attempt to have her case dismissed. According to this guy, Pfizer's basically saying it doesn't matter that they lied to the government because the government knew they were lying. Or sumpin' like dat.
https://rumble.com/v18k47m-pfizer-admits-to-fraud-in-court.html
Isn't that the same as the defense position in the Michael Sussman trial? The FBI knew he was lying, so it wasn't a lie? Got him off, though.
Immunor and Cambridge took the reasonable and safe approach looking for non-human epitopes! They were canceled because in their research they found that the virus had to be man-made! So they were right on another very important point. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7468800/ Some of us saw this a long time ago: https://twitter.com/richardursomd/status/1335080425560084481?s=21&t=uWyOP9unt_PETxeyoxhg1g
Warning: I'm not a scientist or med/pharma SME!!!
Thought I read something a year ago about BioNtech had actually patented the genetic sequence of the current SARS virus, back in 2017/18. When the SARS virus became a pandemic, these 4 pharma corps already had a running start on how to proceed.
Or am I confused and/or ill-informed?
There is a small sequence in the virus that is reverse identical to a moderna patent from a few years back, yes. It doesn't necessarily point to moderna knowing about covid back then, but it does point to the idea that their patented invention was used somewhere along the way in the lab processes that led to sars-cov-2. Either that or it was an incredible chance event of a natural virus generating the same sequence in the wild.
Thank you Joe.
"with this much equine excrement, there has to be a pony in here somewhere…"
Given the size of the pile, that pony must be the size of a brontosaurus.
or possibly a herd...
It would be just like them to create a man-eating ponysaurus hybrid mutant to boot.
One doesn’t even have to “dig” necessarily. One must simply pay attention to what is being said and what is not being said. And then ask them, or ask yourself, why in the world would they have said and done these things.
We have extreme normalcy bias.
And that is going to get a lot of people killed.
This is a masterful (as usual) analysis of how these criminals operate. Thanks to Mike's bravery for continually speaking up despite the enormous cost to him and his family we owe you a tremendous debt of gratitude.
When you have patents on the spike protein, you dam well will use it in vaccines.
Tax dollars hard at work...We've been worked hard and it appears the effects on the immune system have been taxing
Thank you to Dr. Yeadon. I vividly remember his tweet storms and one in particular where he was begging British authorities to bring people in to be questioned by constables - Yeadon smelled a rat and knew if pressure was applied it could break the whole thing open. This was the summer of 2020 I believe. It was one of several (gato's tweets/analysis as well as the rest of team reality) helped me conclude that something was not right. I was nearly forced into the horrible choice of jab or job but fortunately my company did not take that sinister step.
The truth will come. The guilty must pay.
I don't know about this Michael Yeadon character, gato...
Anybody familiar with history knows that apostates and heretics have never been proven to be correct, and instead always posed an existential threat to the ability for our benevolent and beneficent mandarin class to adequately service... er, I mean serve the flock.
Trust a person with decades of skin in the game who risks his career, reputation and the wrath of the righteous to stand up for truth?
Please.
I'm lighting my St. Fauci prayer candle now and am preparing to genuflect. If only there was a ring I could kiss.
Have Ralph Baric and Peter Dzasak been questioned? If so by whom and what was the line of inquiry?
Thank you for putting the bullet points in writing.
I wonder what the Russians found in Ukraine labs. A few days ago hubs was telling me about some new info, but, regretfully, I was not paying attention to him : (. Don't tell him. Anyone know? I think it was about Russians beelining to the labs and destruction priorities for the lab by the ppl running the lab. Which, I know, don't exist and are definitely not at all having anything to do with America. I ask b/c... Baric.
Big hug to Michael Yeadon.
The latest from Ukraine is that the day before (or day of, I forget) Russia began their “special operation,” Zelensky ordered all documents related to Metabiota / Hunter Biden destroyed. Zelensky also started shelling the Dombass ahead of the Russian offensive. The Russians have disseminated a lot of information about the biolabs, especially the animal vector work done in Mariupol. Sorry for the off topic comment, but you asked … and in some respects, it is all of a piece. We (the US) have been operating biolabs developing g-o-f and other weaponized pathogens in other countries to get around legal restrictions at home. It must stop!
Well, Baric thoroughly questioned Daszak and Daszak thoroughly questioned Baric... And they found nothing in the slightest bit suspect, which of course is a great relief.
Yeah, they're off the hook now! Maybe a noose instead!
Covid "vaccines" were not invented and foisted upon the world to make sense they were brought into existence to make cent$.
"Covid" is the engineered destabilization of the global economy.
"COVID-19", the operation, is essentially a cover-up for systematic debt-leveraged monetary expansion.
"Covid-19", the disease, is nothing more than a disease of ATTRIBUTION to other causes.
All of the exaggerated and repeated fear-based messages from the media and government agencies this past year were just part of the advertising campaign for the pharmaceutical industry’s newest lucrative product- mRNA “vaccines” which they plan to roll out as the new medical “miracle cure” for a variety of “ailments”, e.g. new line of “cancer vaccines.”
The plan is for the mRNA "vaccines" to be Pharma's new cash cow and launch an entirely new Bio-Tech wave of financialized "disease management."
It's worth noting that in the USA, disease management pumps almost $6 trillion/yr into the economy.
Disease has replaced war as the world's primary money spinner, the elites need continuing large-scale health crises to keep the economy going. And here we are though this dates back to the early 1990's and Fauci's first crimes, the AIDS/HIV scandal.
Huge fan of Dr. Yeadon; I so hope he will take you up on your offer!
I hope the good doctor is safe and secure, along with our other outspoken Covid medical heroes. It’s a little surprising that the Black Ops crowd haven’t made attempts on anyone, thank goodness.
But I still am concerned about the long term security of Malone, GVB, McCullough, Yeadon, etc.
The Clintons made an art out of Arkancide.
I think about this all the time, they are putting more than just their reputations on the line.
And Bhakdi
Gee whiz! I have seldom been one to believe this dumpster fire was about "hurting you" but Mike raised good points. However... I rather think all of them picked the same (flawed) MoA because the writing on the wall suggested it would get approved, quickly. So being one-of-several similar entrants in the get-paid-a-ton-of-money sweepstakes was the goal. #FollowTheMoney
The take away:
With three reasons to not use the spike protein cytomanufacturing in vaccines--spike protein toxicity, tendency for the spike protein to cause autoimmune response, and the tendency for the spike protein to mutate and render immunity worthless, the use of spike protein by four different groups--Moderna, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, and Johnson and Johnson--demonstrates collusion and malfeasance.
Michael is spot on here. They knew in the early days of “design prospects” that immense positive selective pressure was going to be on the spike. This was known already! In other words, they knew that this would be the site that would be most susceptible to mutations as it cycled through bodies. So why was this region unanimously selected when perhaps N or M proteins could also be effective. Likewise the immediate danger of using the key viral protein required for entry and membrane fusion! In fact, it wasn’t until after the vaccine was in production that additional receptors and binding sites began to be uncovered for spike protein. Besides ACE2, other receptors have been discovered, neuropilin1, CD26, etc.
On top of this, they believed in only the one trick pony approach which is now biting back by injecting the original strain sequence over and over and over. Vaccinologists know this is a bad idea. Meanwhile other treatment approaches have been ignored…the role of mast cells and eosinophils in the manifestation of severe disease and similarities to allergy-like responses that involve histamine. Blocking histamine and use of corticosteroids have been enormously successful. And not surprising, asthmatics rarely get severe covid (perhaps because they are reaching for inhalers because the similarities in respiratory distress). I can say that NO DISEASE studied ever has a one trick pony approach to solving it or treating it, until Covid-19.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27712627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27578435/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32178593/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33498183/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33082293/
Holy shit, I'm learning a lot today. Thx for that post!
You have some interesting ideas. An unvaxxed relative of mine has many co-mobilities...but covid was nothing for him. He is on blood thinners... and maybe that is part of the reason why (Walter Chestnut/Ethical Sceptic talk about the blood being the issue).. however, he is also asthmatic like your mentioned.
I wonder if Paxlovid is also an anti-histamine type product because people feel fine while taking it but then covid often comes back once they stop. Similarly, one woman said all her long covid was gone while on it but it came back as soon as she stopped taking it.
Igor has a post recently about how the covid jab may give a person "tolerance" for covid. Like an allergy. So that they can have a high viral load but feel nothing. Of course that lets the spike proteins run rampant and damage the body while they don't know it. But it does prevent them from the cytokine storm since their body basically just ignores the spikes.
Anyhow, thank you for your post!
Full interview (clip provided is about 1:12:00 into the video with Maajid Nawaz):
https://odysee.com/@MaajidNawaz:d/EP8-Radical:9
Maybe it works better for you from the original tweet:
https://twitter.com/TheRadicalShow/status/1536030783890247690
Thanks for this. I am having trouble getting it to play. It’s the title etc but just a black screen. What am I missing?
If he knows these things, they know them and don't care. More evidence for planned eugenics.
the like button is not working for me on the comments
All great comments
Thank you
Wasn't working for me either Rosemary, but I hit refresh and now it's fine.
thanks
.... wow. simple fix
Yup , same problem with me, it's hit and miss.
The mutation rate in spike wasnt elevated early on.
It become so after spike selection with mAbs and Vaccines.
I think this is true. The assumption was - and I think also Mike’s assumption - that the spike would not mutate that much as the spike in SARS CoV 1 hadn’t mutated much.
Also, I was working in a company developing a monoclonal antibody to sars CoV 2 in 2020 and we thought it would provide enduring protection as the epitope we’d based the mAb on was v highly preserved. We had no reason to thjnk it would mutate away from that. The epitope was also found in SARS CoV 1.
Drug companies aren’t always that smart. Before the pandemic different combos of antigen had been evaluated for coronavirus vaccines. The prevailing wisdom was that S or maybe combo S&N antigens were best, but S only had lower ADE risk. I think then when the pandemic hit Moderna & BioNTech were preloaded as per el gato above suggests, but the others just followed “because we should do what they’re doing” (probably with a bit of Gates induced prompting).
There is a serious risk aversion in pharma c-suites, which explains an awful amount. Remember to scale the echelons of management you need to be good at arselicking, politics, avoiding accountability and have extreme stamina. Intelligence & competence are low on the list, and ethics are not required at all.
I know of what I speak 🧐
I had a back and forth with Balloux about this. He went silent on me once I painted him into a corner.
They frequently try to claim that mutations in spike were being found at low frequency prior to the vaxx program there for the vax didn’t cause them.
This is fails to understand 2 things.
1)detection should never be conflated with evolutionary selection as we have a different selection going on when we choose what to sequence. The labs all cherry pick the Low CT (high viral load) samples for sequencing as those don’t fail to sequence. No one wants to waste sequencing money, so they have strict CT cutoffs for what they sequence for surveillance.
This enriches your sampling for viruses that have high copy number like omicron/delta which means you pick them up at low population frequency before selection has made them the dominant genotype. So the fact that some spike mutations predate the vax program is not evidence that the vax didn’t accelerate that process.
2)if you can’t find selection against spike, you have no basis to claim the vaccine works.
https://twitter.com/kevin_mckernan/status/1537599324737220609?s=21&t=zB5fIQrVJhdI3i7gqwh-ww
Isn't that also what Geert VDBossche stated a year+ ago?
The leaky vaccine is the super spreader and the host is the petri dish
a varying hypothesis is that some variants are evolutionarily different than wuhan a or what have indicating an altewrnate hypothesis for why some countries not affected early on....
that is a strain of wuhan a ancestor was natural ands out and about before 2019.
see ethical skeptic, who is also analyzing why excess deaths have not subdued to below pre pandemic levels as c19 death fade!!!
Doc Yeadon is a warrior and has been through hell. If nothing else he deserves our support and respect for having the courage to blow his own life up.
As to the broader story here, all these trails should end on a hill. With a gallows. Televised for the month it will take to get it all done.
A falling blade is faster but let the criminals sweat a while longer.
Only recruit novice executioners.
Excellent strategy.
they'll be some deep ditches
Nothing changes without consequences.
Yup. And that's been the problem for over 70 years
I hope Dr. Yeadon still finds time to work on that motorcycle. He certainly never sought public attention. It is evident he felt morally compelled to speak out. I've heard similar sentiments about Dr. Tess Lawrie. Dr. Yeadon is an exceptional human. And for recognizing that, so is the person behind el gato malo, absence of initial caps notwithstanding.
indeed...:)
Jim -
My employee's give me crap all the time about sending them emails with no caps. I don't do that here out of respect for Gato.
It's a bit lazy, bit of a "signature" and a bit of all the stinkin' emails I have to review and send.
For you, I'll always trying to do it right. But correct me on my grammar. I did not do well in that subject.
I don't mind the lack of caps. You just get used to it. But once a month it seems someone posts a well-intended comment earnestly trying to persuade el gato to use upper case letters to start sentences.
I’ve never even noticed he does that and I’m a spelling geek. Lol.
Public Comments to FDA regarding approval to jab 5 YO's to infants. Nailed it UTTERLY in 3min: https://rumble.com/v18l13s-my-feedback-to-the-fdas-attempts-to-inject-5-and-under-for-covid-19.html?fbclid=IwAR1cQck3hjBpZIBVupr9J4qnRcoNNzACyDUIbGbu9P4UyrczVyEQSJ2RyJk
Epic. I keep re=posting. Want to put it on my facebook page but everyone on there is jabbed and i fear the consequences.
I saw that. Holy moly.
Chilling stuff cat, great article. You and Dr. Yeadon are true heros.
I previously didn't believe the lab leak, but as our Western World covid monomania continues the more I'm coming around.
Timelines, Cominarty still not available, the massive media push.
Did you REALLY think comirnaty would be available? It never will!
"“we funded the disease, lied about it, funded the cure, and got a mountain of unreported royalties for doing so” is not a good look for NIH"
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Yet still a better look than all this, plus a huge coverup.
Yeadon is almost as bad as Rand Paul with his rediculous questions to Fauci about royalty payments. Don't these guys know that we have real problems like Kim Kardashian ruining Marilyn Monroe's dress and Justin Bieber canceling concerts because of face paralysis?
LOOK, SQUIRRELS!
Do not underestimate the power and importance of squirrels. In fact they are probably the culprits in all the ag building fires and also could be a fine substitute for Rand Paul's hair if need be. That last comment was squirrely.. See their power?
G- Damn Raptor! That was hilarious, love it. RAND PAULS HAIR! 😆 🤣 😂 😹
Rand Paul's hair is still better than that A-hole Jamie Raskin! That shit is a squirrel nest!
Haha! Love your sarcasm Danny! But Rand Paul needs to crank it up a notch. We'll see if he's for real, if the R's take back the senate. If he or when the house flips and these guys don't do squat, then we're just pissin in the wind. There must be accountability or nothing will change and a lot of death for nothing. I still have hope, but it's about a 5 on a 10 scale. Someone might get thrown under the bus, but it probably won't be the big guys.
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/why-the-covid-vaccines-were-never?utm_medium=reader2
Thank you from Spain. Just read, just twitted. 👍🏻
From what I have seen, it has been suggested that the pinheads doing viral research have been attempting to perfect viral entry protein into the human cell (the perfect 'spike') and thus making a vaccine to stop that would be the ultimate vaccine. Ah, the hubris.
Much respect to Mike Yeadon. Another embarassment for google and the "mess media" - to ruthlessly attack the reputations of those with the most qualifications and integrity.
Another of the most maligned doctors Simone Gold. One of the first to talk about hydroxychloroquine. She's sentenced to prison for walking into the Capitol, doors opened from the inside, giving the speech she came to give at the rally, but was abruptly cancelled, and leaving when asked to leave.
https://aflds.org/news/press-releases/the-loss-of-equal-protection/
"On January 6th, Dr. Gold was scheduled to speak alongside about a dozen other presenters after President Trump’s appearance at the rally. Shortly before her speech, Dr. Gold was advised all speeches were canceled. After hearing this, Dr. Gold was amongst thousands swept into the Capitol building when the doors were opened from the inside. While inside, Dr. Gold decided to deliver her remarks there. When an officer asked her to leave, she did. The media coverage post January 6 showed violent scenes but that was not Dr. Gold’s observation of the day. Subsequently, Dr. Gold was arrested and prosecuted for entry into the Capitol on January 6, 2021. Dr. Gold reached a plea agreement for entering a restricted building. Her sentencing is scheduled today, June 16, 2022. Dr. Gold did express regret for entry into the Capitol building but is facing the consequences of free speech in modern day America. Like most January 6 defendants, she is a victim of selective prosecution – the defining feature of corrupted governments.
For comparison’s sake, consider that there were hundreds of arrests for violent protests in association with President Trump’s Inauguration in 2017. The government subsequently dropped all of those charges, including charges against people who were actually disrupting Congress from inside the Congressional gallery while Congress was in session. With the January 6 arrests, the government has not only not dropped the charges of nonviolent persons in public spaces, such as Dr. Gold, it has aggressively violated defendants’ civil rights at nearly every turn. There are innumerable well-documented instances of January 6 defendants not receiving due process noted in the book January 6 authored by Julie Kelly. For example, some defendants have been held in prison for nearly 18 months pretrial. In Dr. Gold’s case, she peacefully gave a speech on medical freedom in the public Rotunda. This resulted in the government violently arresting her by breaking down her door, sending 20 SWAT officers (including 12 of them with AR15 guns pointing at her from two feet away), loss of freedom, loss of movement and loss of other Constitutionally protected civil rights. Such inequitable treatment based upon political preference shows the collapse of the rule of law. For people interested in learning the truth about January 6, please watch Capitol Punishment.
In addition, the government has aggressively not arrested or prosecuted certain highly visible individuals seen on videotape who waived people into the building. The government and the January 6 Congressional Committee have aggressively not shown 14,000 hours of closed-circuit security footage. The government and the January 6 Congressional Committee have not disclosed how many FBI agents and assets were in the crowd. And the media lied when it stated five officers were killed – exactly no officers were killed, although five officers ostensibly committed suicide or otherwise died in the months following January 6. The one person who was killed, Ashli Babbitt, a petite unarmed 35-year-old female military veteran, was killed by a Capitol police officer, who was never charged.
Dr. Gold remains committed to her activism for physicians’ free speech. Dr. Gold, quoting George Washington said: “If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.” For over two years now, We the People have been under attack. Our Constitutional rights have been chipped away. The First Amendment has been annihilated. Before 2020, we could have never imagined the government of our democracy stripping away our rights as it has. We have watched the Orwellian scene unfold before our eyes.
A concerted effort has been undertaken to “cancel” physicians who do not follow the mainstream narrative. Dr. Gold has been targeted by these attacks since the White Coat Summit in July 2020 when she shared the news of lifesaving medications alongside many esteemed colleagues, now numbering in the tens of thousands. The California Medical Board subsequently threatened Dr. Gold’s license with an unfounded claim she was sharing “dangerous disinformation.”
The attempted silencing of this one doctor was just a preamble for what is to come throughout the nation. California Assembly Bill 2098, an official government censorship bill, has just been passed through the House in California. This outrageous bill puts a gag order on doctors in exchange for a California medical license. Without a license, a doctor cannot practice medicine. When a doctor has a license revoked in any state, it is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, for that doctor to obtain a license in another state. This is career-ending. Further, AB 2098 proposes to violate the privacy of the doctor/patient relationship and create a brand new category of “unprofessional conduct” against doctors who provide education and early treatment for Covid-19. AFLDS has prepared a comprehensive Issue Brief on AB 2098.
Issue Briefs | America's Frontline Doctors (aflds.org)
As we consider the results of Dr. Gold’s sentencing, one thing is clear. We are still far away from the change that is needed. The First Amendment is crumbling before us, and we must continue to stand for what is right. Never will we give in to the threats of government. Dr. Gold risked her career when she stood against the mainstream narrative to save lives. Now, she stands here boldly, risking her freedom, to choose what is right over what is comfortable. We must learn to be so bold and continue to stand together against the tyranny we face."
First, I have endless respect for Mike Yeadon who has, at considerable risk of harm to himself in many ways, been on the side of scientific truth and common sense since the very start of the Covid psyop. We owe him a deep debt of gratitude. From a fellow senior career ex-Pharmaceutical industry veteran to another, thank you Mike for everything you have done and stood up for., we will never forget.
Agreed all in the commentary except I'm still not convinced any virus "leaked" from anywhere.
This "pandemic" exercise began in 2001 with "Dark WInter" and culminated in late 2019 with "Event 201". When you (The Globalists) have been planning an operation for 20 years and are ready to implement, you don't just sit around waiting for the random, and unlikely, possibility of a "Lab leak" from a BSL-4 facility?
I agree that what we have was made in a Lab, but we don't actually know WHICH Lab - WIV is NOT the only possibility. I don't accept that there is any evidence that it "leaked" from anywhere. IMHO the "Wuhan lab leak" is a little like "Twelve Saudis with boxcutters" are to 9/11 - an outer layer of the onion which can be left in place to conceal the next layer or pealed away to get closer to the truth.
The timing was always suspicious to me..just in time to take Trump out and help the Dems with their election fraud...sir, I think you are correct. Smart thinking. May I keep? I want to ponder this some more....
Im starting to hypothesize that the spike vax was purposeful injected in a population, if not spread by aerosols, in Wuhan starting the madness. Probably the World Military Games 2019. Think back to the sudden deaths of people walking in the streets. They're amyloidosis / clot victims. Shedding for a time until their demise.
Clearly the injections needed a pandemic, not the other way around.
Maybe they did it because the vaccine containing Spike would be easier patentable?
Pfizer applies for the patent already 30 years ago.
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO1993023421A1/en
totally messed up!
In her May 2021 review of Covid vax studies, Stephanie Seneff discussed a study out of China that appeared in Nature in August 2020. (See. p. 395 -- p. 7 of the pdf, near the bottom, at the link below.)
It showed clearly that the spike protein alone elicited practically no immune response. Structural proteins were needed as well to get an adequate immune response. And with structural proteins they believed a fragment of the spike protein could be used, rather than the full spike protein pathogen which scientists suspected from the get-go would be dangerous.
So everyone involved knew well before the vaxxes were released that their concoction, which included only the spike, wouldn't work.
https://people.csail.mit.edu/seneff/2021/SeneffNigh_mRNA_vaccines_IJVTPR.pdf
explains a lot
“Dual use” research is, in the words of a previously wise duo, bullshit. Well, at least the mouthier one previously seemed to be wise, perhaps the silent one still is but won’t break character to straighten things out.
We can’t make an effective flu vaccine, so how could we possibly make one for a virus that mutates even faster?
And a pan-coronavirus vaccine, able to prevent infection from any future variant that might show up? Bullshit.
The off-the-shelf “vaccine” candidate for SC2, as alluded to in this article was complete bullshit. No updates have been released now that we are several dominant variants in.
There is no dual use, in reality. It’s all Bioweapon research.
I never like the phrase "dual use". seems like some sort of "bait and switch" they pulled.
Wells said Ziggity.
Fun fact: molecular COVID tests work for most variants because they detect the relatively stable nucleocapsid (N) protein. At least, that's according to the insert in my Abbott kit, which also says that it may cross-react with other coronavirus including SARS-CoV-1! So why isn't the shot (or monoclonal antibodies, for that matter) being raised against that? Spike is toxic so I suspect whole-virus shots should be right out, and N protein seems most alien (it forms the virus "capsid" or structure) and most stable. I know, I know, I keep asking this everywhere, I'll crawl back into my basement now...
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this is a very good question. One I posed to Igor two weeks ago.
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Thanks, Gato.
Yeadon and Bossche made me hit the brakes very early in this manufactured crisis, when everyone else was ... well, praising "science". I hold them in a particularly high regard.
And your ending cracked me up ツ
Paraphrasing Ayn Rand, if something that you see doesn't make any sense, you need to examine your premises. You will find that one of them is wrong.
Exactly, thank you Rex.
This is what I've been telling everyone who have said to me "______ (decision, action, law change, mandate etc) just doesn't make sense". No, people's actions etc ALWAYS make sense IF YOU KNOW their beliefs/agenda. If it doesn't make sense to you it's only because you don't know their beliefs/agenda. And if you don't know it odd are good they've been lying to you.
People keep making the (understandable default) mistake of projecting their own values onto those in power over them. That this whole thing was, at bare minimum, an uber-lucrative scam was obvious to me by early Feb 2020. That it most likely included intentional harm was easy to see by July 2020 and the depop goal plain as day by Oct. But I guess most didn't poke around the internet looking for dots to join like I did as soon as I heard about the 'outbreak in Wuhan'.
My BS alarm began going crazy in the spring of '20, long before a vax became available, when several highly credentialed doctors were successfully treating covid with repurposed drugs and vitamins, and were attacked and ridiculed by both the MSM and our public serpents. If the goal was to beat this virus, this should have been hailed as a godsend. The attacks made no sense. Unless......
“we funded the disease, lied about it, funded the cure, HURT A LOT OF PEOPLE, and got a mountain of unreported royalties for doing so”
FITFY.
“we funded the disease, lied about it, funded the cure, [the "cure" was disastrous and dangerous and has killed and maimed tens if not hundreds of thousands, or millions], and got a mountain of unreported royalties for doing so”
I'm not sure I get this--he suggests the spike protein is inherently more unstable than other proteins in the virus. That is based on observation over time. But that's not obvious to me. An alternative hypothesis is the spike protein is no more unstable than any other protein but we have imposed immense selection pressure on the spike protein, which has accelerated its evolution relative to the other elements of the virus. Keep in mind that during the entire first year of the pandemic we only had one variant, from the original Wuhan to the alpha, which was modest. Since vaccination, however, we have had waves of variants.
So my concern is that if we "chose" more stable proteins to target with vaccines, that would simply make those proteins more unstable.
Apparently targeting some proteins, especially less active proteins such as the Nucleocapsid, also raises elevated concerns about ADE that narrowly targeting the spike does not. This is very murky though and I've tried to find more discussion on this point, but it doesn't seem to be widely discussed so that might not be accurate. All I can find really is this: https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-coronavirus-vaccines
There is a confusing update in the key passage there that suggests the "correction" is not to say the Nucleocapsid does not risk ADE but that the spike has a lower risk of ADE:
"The SARS experience taught us a lot of extremely useful lessons, as it turned out. SARS-Cov-2 is rather closely related to the 2003 SARS coronavirus, and if you're going to have a worldwide pandemic, you're far better off with one that's so much like something you've already poured R&D investments into! In this case, the two big take-homes were that coronavirus vaccines could indeed suffer from ADE, and that this seemed to depend on which protein you chose to base your vaccine around. Specifically, it was the vaccines that targeted the N (nucleoprotein) antigen of the coronavirus that had ADE problems, while the ones that targeted the S (Spike) protein did not. Update: this isn't accurate. There was trouble after immunization with a nucleoprotein-directed vaccine, but ADE could also be seen with some of the Spike-directed vaccine candidates as well - see reviews here, here, and here. That experience was thoroughly taken to heart in the vaccine developments of the last year: no one, to the best of my knowledge, even bothered to target the SARS-Cov-2 N protein at all, for just this reason."
That's a long quote, so to highlight the key sentence, "That experience was thoroughly taken to heart in the vaccine developments of the last year: no one, to the best of my knowledge, even bothered to target the SARS-Cov-2 N protein at all, for just this reason."
Yet I am now hearing a wide range of people arguing that we should target a broader array of proteins or asking why the vaccines don't target the Nucleocapsid. If this is correct, it is because targeting those proteins increase the risk of ADE significantly (which is already non-zero with the spike).
Consider this. Trusting ANY article published in the establishment press, is likely a mistake, and, disinformation from TPTB.
The censorship and shunning, of all things countr to the official narrative is pervasive and widespread across society.
When one can’t trust our health agencies, our medical boards, our media and our governments, becauseTHEY ALL ALIGN WITH THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE, then we must question everything and, NEVER assume anything we read or hear is factual or believable.
Those are the times we now live in.
Just look at the US and Canadian Governments, all their toadies and their public miscreants. There’s not a word they say, that is trustworthy. The disease is from the top, down.
"Build back better" means getting rid of all of these agencies and corruption, and creating a smaller and kinder government like, let's say, what we had ca. 1790. Respecting the limited powers of the Constitution. There were 3 cabinet level agencies in the 'old days' - Army (then War and now Defense), State and Treasury. And they were all much less powerful and influential than today.
Well, we can hope anyway.
No, we have all been exposed to covid by now and the natural immune response has exerted selection pressure. The unvaccinated have the best response to covid now, barring vitamin D deficiency or some other way that immune systems are compromised.
And yet, one of the original studies on covid showed cross-reactive immunity with the N protein from the original SARS.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z
"Seven out of eight individuals tested showed clear, robust expansion of N-reactive cells (Fig. 3e) and ICS confirmed that individuals who recovered from SARS had SARS-CoV N-reactive CD4 and CD8 memory T cells."
Capricor had an interesting vaccine candidate that used an exosome delivery system and displayed both the spike and nucleocapsid protein, but I guess they didn't pay off the right people in the FDA.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/drug-delivery/capricor-touts-exosomes-as-better-mrna-delivery-vehicle
Pasting a portion of my comment from above regarding ADE and coronaviruses:
Going off of memory here, gonna have to dig through my old notes. While it's true that some studies showed that S-only vaccines might be less at risk of ADE/VED, there were also studies that showed the combo of S- and N- might be superior (gotta double check) or that certain adjuvants might be problematic. After looking into this question, I came to the conclusion that at that time the results to date were conflicting, but they had to test something...
Most concerning to me were two different things, however. #1) I was deeply disturbed that previous studies on average only challenged the test animal a few weeks after finishing the vaccine series. Given that a leading theory for ADE proposes that waning immunity against the pathogen is a key cause, how does making claims about ADE, when test animal immunity is at peak, make any sense at all?
Answer: it doesn't. Maybe they didn't want to report negative outcomes, so they looked when they knew it wasn't likely to be present, thereby fixing their results to show the research in more favorable light. It's also more costly to extend studies and maybe lifespan of animals comes into play, but I can't help but smell publication bias. Whatever the reason, the study construct seems inadequate to best answer that question.
#2) Animals that are used to test coronavirus vaccines and ADE are not able to replicate the severe pathology that occurs in humans. If the test animal doesn't show severe symptoms (with the associated pathology?), how can you get meaningful answers about such a topic? Surrogate markers would likely only get you so far. Again, seems rather inadequate, even if they have no other option.
To me, their knowledge regarding coronavirus vaccines and ADE was half-baked at best. One of the many reasons it seemed the opposite of cautious to disseminate them so widely, so fast.
A bit of a tangent but I wish more attention would be paid to the likes of Daszac and Baric. And to what seems like a rationalization to me, the line of thought that so-called gain of function research is vital b/c some animal diseases will inevitably transmit to humans and we need to “get out in front” to control or contain them. I’m no biologist nor any other kind of scientist so I look to others’ perspective on this. I’m under the impression that some prior outbreaks of zoonotic diseases (mad cow?) prior to sars covid 2 resulted from lab experiments gone awry.
Like SARS and MERS?
Well, yeah.
LIKE. I agree. time to drag them in front of TV for questioning by independent experts. Doesn't hold water or make sense, the entire premise.
They are not real big on having their premises questioned, whether it’s about covid, global warming or pretty much anything else. It’s always “Rush immediately into crisis mode, do not pass go, do not collect $200.”
And HIV.
I think this is the full interview: https://odysee.com/@MaajidNawaz:d/EP8-Radical:9
Feeling like this thread needs some levity with some John Prine Sarcasm
Prine passed away with Covid April 2020. His last album The Tree of Forgiveness featured this song:
Lonesome Friends of Science
“Those bastards in their white lab coats
Who experiment with mountain goats
Should leave the universe alone
It's not their business, not their home”
https://youtu.be/gn2MwHGbP1A
I can’t help thinking of this song when it comes to Covid. Prine had a beautiful way of telling a story of how absurd humans act by mocking them. This song is prophetic.
Rest In Peace John!
Why would you create an effective vaccine against a disease that is only deadly to people who are already almost at the end of their life? Unless you wanted to create a vaccine that would require endless administration.
Thank you for your theory. I saw Yeadon's interview and I appreciate you adding to it. It makes a lot of sense the way you explained it.
Sometimes I read an article about an embezzler and it's shocking how brazen they are. And then I realize that they have been getting away with it for a long time and that's why they feel so confident.
I think this is what has happened with Pharma. They have been selling faulty products--which cure one thing while giving another serious problem or even a fatality--for a long time. They rely on the media and the FDA to take years to finally report it and pull their drug. Meanwhile, they have made all their money. The drug has been successful for their pocketbooks.
Pharma is used to knowing that their products can and will harm some of their customers. But we as the public are not. This is all new to most of us. We also have not followed a product from beginning to end and seen how long it remained on the market while the talking heads on the media say nothing about it's ill effects. It's maddening watching the situation unfold. However, this is typical practice for Pharma...just not on this grand of a scale. But oh what a paycheck they got. They have been selling their souls for years. They are brazen because this is what they do and have been doing for 50 years or more.
So I don't think it's a depopulation plan because the Western countries are less populated then India or China. But, I think they are as you say...people who copied each other...from work that was already on hand. So easy to make the product that way. Especially easy if you don't care if anyone gets hurt.
I think there is also a bit of mad scientist in many of these people and a great desire to make an MRNA project and they needed a virus and free govt money to do it.
Anyhow, thanks again for a great post although certainly a troubling one because of the reality it brings.
Dr Mike has been speaking out since the beginning. "Your government is lying to you" video was one of the first that I watched.
Some questions:
- Why no post-mortems on all the sudden deaths, especially of athletes? It used to be normal practice if someone died suddenly and had not recently had any medical visits, there would be a PM.
- Why no independent quality control at the vaccine manufacturing plants?
- Why no random sampling and analysis of vaccine vials?
- Why no monitoring group overseeing the vaccine administration and following up on adverse effect reports?
- Why no side effects sheet issued to vaccinees?
Give me a rational answer to these questions.
Otherwise check out Steve Kirsch latest stack. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-personally-know-someone-who
I’ve always thought that the Covid response incl the vaccines were a result of incompetence not malice. But Yeadon, with his insider knowledge and demeanour that suggests he wouldn’t generally think people had malicious intent, thinking just that, is starting to have me think he is right. I’m not yet with Dolores Cahill who has said that everyone over 30 who has had a jab will be dead in 3 years and those jabbed under 30 will have shortened lives, but time will prove or disprove that hypothesis.
And thank you for your amazing writings el gato, I’m thrilled every time I see your name in my inbox. Whatever your other skills are, your writing is superb. Such a unique way with words. Thank you. 🙏
This was also a good interview of Yeadon discussing the same:
Former Pfizer VP: ‘Massive Fraud Playing Out on a Global Scale,’ Reckless to Vaccine the Whole Population
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/former-pfizer-vp-massive-fraud-playing-out-on-a-global-scale-reckless-to-vaccine-the-whole-population_4509490.html?utm_source=andshare
I think Yeadon losses some credibility when he states he believes they did this with the intent to injure people. I like El Gato’s thesis. “They thought they all could make a quick buck” due to the insider information and the head start.
Mike Yeadon is a hero and clearly a good, kind and humble man. At great cost to himself, he refuses to let the lies stand and insists on exposing the truth. He's doing God's work and he will surely be blessed for it.
"you must be an anti-vaxxer!"
My answer to that is that I am NOT, because these are NOT vaccines :P...
Full interview here:
https://odysee.com/@MaajidNawaz:d/EP8-Radical:9
I'm by know means an expert and this could be a stupid post. But I did take biology in college...
Overall, it seems like ia bad idea to mess with the building block of all liviing organisms.
Especially, in order to combat a non living particulate that has a 4 billion year evolutionary head start...and then turbo charged in a lab over a couple years.
Then warp speed a leaky vaccine to be unleashed on a population naive to a uniquely contagious respiratory cold virus.
You think it could be this straight-forward?:
It is damaging the DNA. That's what they're covering up.
They fucked around with fire.
mRNA is made on a DNA template!
They got burned
"vaccine design"
Vaccines are never designed. They are developed using trial and error. Any product must be designed for safety. Since they are not designed, they are unsafe by definition.
Vaccine safety: Learning from the Boeing 737 MAX disasters
https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.2648251
On points 1,2: One should look at the immune response following infection to check if the human immune system is producing a response against genetically stable parts. This is a check against autoimmunity as the immune system will usually not produce an immune response against parts that are identical to human peptides. If a peptide is not targeted, that should not be included in the vaccine.
Injected vaccines are useless. They should have focused on intranasal.
This was never about producing a safe or effective product. If they did all this homework, there would be no need to demand liability protection. Vaccines were always about making a quick buck.
https://publons.com/publon/33459956/#review-9025990
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Pretty sure NIH picked the spike and that the payload is licensed to all 3 US manufacturers... That may be changing with the omi specific payload, but maybe not... The big pharma companies each designed their own delivery system, the payload came from Fauci and Collins.
Not the easiest link to find, all the first gen genetic vaccines used the NIH owned and designed spike https://www.keionline.org/35746
Something going on with substack today. Keeps saying something has gone wrong each time I try to arrow up anyone’s comment.
https://bluecat.media/dr-reiner-fuellmich-dr-david-martin-interview-fauci-created-sars-in-lab-no-novel-cv-us-patents-1999-2002/
My guess for AZ and JnJ is they all just followed the bandwagon and looked that there was quite a bit published on the spike. There was a race for this. I remember clearly because I was working at Regeneron at the time. Trump invited all the CEOs to DC to discuss how quickly they could have something in humans. Our CEO one upped Pfizer and said we could have something in humans in 4-6 months and then the Moderna CEO said 2 months. Everyone in the industry I know (including people who work in vaccine research) said that was insane. I guess when you have a head start and no accountability it can happen.
With respect to Mike Yeadon, I favour the Gato explanation rather than some kind of deliberate attempt to hurt people.
And my reason is Hanlon's Razor (never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity).
I don't think government and big pharma are actively trying to hurt us. But I also don't think they care if they hurt us as long as they protect their own interests.
They may not have started out to hurt us buddy, but now they're doubling down and want to kill babies. That's downright evil my friend !
I love "bad" cats! Like my cat-baby "Casey!"
"to create a vaccine with ongoing efficacy, you should pick the part of the virus that is most genetically stable so it is least likely to mutate away from induced immunity. this means you would never pick the spike protein. (though, as he admits, perhaps this was not know early on, but i also suspect there were strong intuitions in that regard given the reams of data from gain of function and other coronavirus manipulations/serial passaging etc)"
Is the spike protein always the most mutagenic portion of coronaviruses, or have the vaccines played a part in driving the number of mutations in the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2? Or maybe it's a bit of both?
Spike proteins are notoriously the most prone to mutation in coronaviruses. Prior immunity from either vaccine or infection can drive mutations. See comment towards the top regarding their knowledge about spike protein as a choice for vaccine target. They 100% knew early on.
Maybe I'm misreading this study, but it appears to me that for SARS-CoV-1, the spike portion was no more mutagenic than the other three major structural proteins.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC446188/
I agree that conclusion appears true for this single study from 2004 (investigating 16 isolates that were traced to a single likely exposure occurring within ~48 days).
However, as more time elapsed since the original SARS and then MERS outbreaks, and the number of studies which shed light on viral characteristics increased, the understanding of spike protein and its variability evolved. Since that study, it seems like in the quest for a vaccine and effective therapeutics against the original SARS, MERS, other coronaviruses in general (such as from other animal species), and now SARS-CoV-2, many references to spike protein being the most involved by mutations appear in the literature.
Some quick examples:
• "Since S contains the receptor binding domain for the host receptor and is immunogenic, it is under selection in the host and becomes the most rapidly evolving protein, with most mutations located in the S1 domain and especially the receptor binding domain." (2007)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2176051/
• "Additionally, the nature of the rapid variation in the RNA virus increases the likelihood of immunologic escape, especially with regard to countermeasures directed at the RBD." (RBD is a component of the spike protein) (2017)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7115548/
• "The Spike glycoprotein underwent rapid evolution during the human epidemic [40], was the most significantly variable protein across civet and human isolates [22], and shows evidence of positive selection during both interspecies and intraspecies transmission events [10, 22, 40, 54]" (2011)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3237677/
• "The predicted domains of the S protein, responsible for receptor specificity and for recognition by neutralizing antibodies, showed the most numerous substitutions." (2005)
https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev.med.56.091103.134135
• "The Spike glycoprotein... is encoded from an ORF with a highly variable sequence." (2012)
http://www.newmicrobiologica.org/PUB/allegati_pdf/2012/1/1.pdf
As I understand it, the nature of S protein accounts for its likelihood to be involved preferentially by mutations:
"The S protein is the largest structural protein encoded by all coronaviruses; it mediates receptor association and fusion of the viral and cellular membranes, and is the major antigenic determinant of coronaviruses." (from 2012 paper above)
Being so large increases the likelihood for mistakes and being a key antigenic determinant makes it more susceptible to selective pressures.
When considering the broad body of literature (not just a single, early study), it seems that consensus evolved to accept spike protein as most prone to mutation/variability in coronaviruses. I would highlight that the study you mention contains limitations for generalizability regarding spike protein mutation, such as relying on a very small sample size (only 16), being selected from too geographically and chronologically narrow of a pool (single likely exposure within~48 days), and the methodology didn't involve lab manipulation or subject it to selective pressures from what I can tell (only calculated estimates from reported sequences). Overall, I don't think this study can overturn conclusions many other more specialized researchers and scientists than myself arrived upon in the last ~18 years (or more! I didn't delve deeply into coronavirus research before 2003). Hope that helps:)
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It is like kids in school copying the wrong answer to a homework... they all will get caught because they all made the same mistake!
on the economic front we are back to the 70's,
only the financial burden of covid plundering is nearer ww ii than vietnam!
Mike Yeadon has made such an enormous contribution in trying to get some much needed truth out there. Such an important voice in all this!
Unvaxxed the "WINNERS!” Really?
https://johnbotica.substack.com/p/unvaxxed-the-winners-really
I have been saying essentially the same thing for almost 2 1/2 years. But Yeadon boils it down to the simplest terms and that's critical for wider understanding. As an ex-medical microbiologist, the alarm bells went off for me, too, when I heard they were using the spike protein, the part of the virus that binds to the ACE2 receptor. Insane. It BINDS to the ACE2 receptor because it LOOKS like ACE2. Angiotensin Converting Enzyme 2 is a part of blood pressure regulation and other circulatory processes. If you create an immune response to spike, you create an immune response to ACE2.
It would be like putting a picture out of a perp who happens to look just like some innocent Joe Blow
and suddenly the whole police force is shooting at Joe Blow. There's more to it than that, of course: The spike apparently has other components that are toxic on their own. But this is enough to label the selection of Spike Protein as the target of vax development as colossally stupid or malevolent. Pick one. Or both.
Just a note on the recommendation of targeting "the most stable part of the virus". Also great point. The structural proteins, the Membrane protein (M) and the Envelope protein (E) are both candidates, but E is extremely stable, "highly conserved", with only 3 variants across all beta-coronavirus strains collected. [https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2020/4389089/, Published May 2020].
These structural proteins are required for structural integrity of the virus. It can't live if its house is falling apart. That should have been an obvious choice, if their intent was stopping the virus.
I'd originally thought that they were just thinking about how much bigger and more easily "seen" by the immune cells than the E & M proteins, but, now, I tend to agree with Dr Yeadon, that it was actual ill intent. Between them, they knew better.
Is the entire interview available somewhere?
"to create a vaccine with ongoing efficacy, you should pick the part of the virus that is most genetically stable so it is least likely to mutate away from induced immunity." Dr. Yeadon is the man! This is also what Dr. Gaurav Chandra has been saying for some time now. He is the COO for Enzolytics, they're working on human grade (not hamster like the original Regeneron version) monoclonal antibodies that bind to immutable sites on the virus. A good company to watch. Lots going on there.
https://www.biopharma-reporter.com/Article/2021/10/11/Samsung-Biologics-to-help-Enzolytics-advance-clinical-development-of-mAbs
Further to your hypothesis:
1. The Wuhan institute of technology knows a LOT about the spike protein.
2. Both Chinese vaccines are inactivated vaccines – they are not mRNA vaccines which target the spike protein.
3. The Chinese authorities are ruthlessly imposing a crazy “zero Covid“ policy on tens of millions of its citizens.
But are the Chinese truly “crazy,” or do they simply know something critical about the dangers of the spike protein that we are ignoring?

why?
to paraphrase gates...if we do a really good job on birth control and vaccinations we can slow population growth and bring carbon emissions to zero
so, why the spike protein?
bioweapon
The only thing you got wrong here is that the engineered virus accidentally leaked.
No Top Cat. and Mike, We did already know that spikes change freq. It only adds to your point ultimately. It clearly showed at the time well before they considered picking the code to insert into the mRNA, that the antigen would vary frequently. It has been recognized that this is a survival mechanism of the virus in evading -you guessed it- the antibodies hot on their tails. We did know beforehand. Careful, Meow, meow. You're fighting it out for No.1 in a few prestigious categories in my upcoming book. Mike already has locked up his two categories by getting more than double the second place finisher points. I'll read the rest of your always great post soon and add another comment if I have to for future reference if need be.
You wouldn't happen to be Australian would you, mate, despite those Spanish cat names you use to throw everybody off? I have a little bet with a friend. He challenged me to find out who you are before the next edition of the book I keep plugging (it'll be out in a month's time). I was complaining about important people (like you) never returning my emails and they thought it funny if I were to be challenged to find out your identity through respectable means. in less than a year. Thanks, mate, and your post has been a joy, seriously. I'd like to invite you to write the Afterward to my book (that'll be out in about a month- something about how all of us "non-experts ( except for Dr. Mike Yeadon)" pooled together our particular skills to, not just defeat soundly, the experts, but to walk all over them,. Even the guy living in the third world country, with a #2 pencil and half a sheet of notebook paper who has by far the most "firsts" and "only's" than anyone else by far, would say it was a team effort.
I came for the kitties but stayed for the catnip. Well done, mate.
" Some , whatever , some origination of life " . Is he starting from a Darwinian point of view ? Not looking real bold or smart to me .
"with this much equine excrement, there has to be a pony in here somewhere…"
Brilliant observation among many - thanks for sharing!
They are obsessed with overpopulation
https://www.bitchute.com/video/zucq5G6qa8D6/
Maybe at the crimes against humanity trials, when they're all facing worse than life in a prison for rich people, they'll all say, "We didn't mean to hurt anyone! We just used what we were already working on ....", and admit a whole lot that will still get them into lots of trouble ...
Is this atrocity we are witnessing a censored genocide?
Huge thanks to Michael Yeadon for his gentle and kind intestinal fortitude. Thank you bad cattitude.
I highly recommend listening to that whole interview - it's terrific!
Scary but with they way they’ve been acting, ignoring the VAERS database and still pushing vaccines and boosters, I too believe it was collusion and malfeasance.
Dr. Mike Yeadon is the very, very best, el Gato Malo!
From the beginning he figured out where this nasty little agenda was heading and one can only learn logic, good sense, and how a brilliant mind works by listening to him. Plus integrity and compassion. ❤
As to why the evil little minions of Pharma picked a toxic spike protien to inject the world with--- well, sick people are Pharma's bread and butter, are they not?
This is so weird. I'm watching a rerun of SVU from 2009 where Measles plays a role & they're exploring the vaccination issue & personal choice re: Measles that killed an infant. I remember people ridiculing Jenny McCarthy & people like her that took an anti-vaccination stance back in the day. I didn't necessarily agree with her but have always endorsed personal choice. I got my child the vaccinations required for school.
I now question all vaccinations. If I had my son in 2021 instead of 2001, I might have done things differently.
Props to Gato.
"AlleGory truths" didn't get enough credit
Just when you think it can’t get any worse...JFC
The bit about the spike protein was well known a long time ago - back in 2020 - so that vaccines of whatever sort based on the spike protein alone would never work. "But some viruses, such as HIV and influenza, are able to mutate their equivalent of the spike protein to evade antibodies. It is unknown whether SARS-CoV-2 is able to efficiently evolve to evade antibodies in the same way. Weisblum, Schmidt et al. addressed this question using an artificial system that mimics natural infection in human populations. Human cells grown in the laboratory were infected with a hybrid virus created by modifying an innocuous animal virus to contain the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and treated with either manufactured antibodies or antibodies present in the blood of recovered COVID-19 patients. In this situation, only viruses that had mutated in a way that allowed them to escape the antibodies were able to survive. Several of the virus mutants that emerged had evolved spike proteins in which the segments targeted by the antibodies had changed, allowing these mutant viruses to remain undetected. An analysis of more than 50,000 real-life SARS-CoV-2 genomes isolated from patient samples further showed that most of these virus mutations were already circulating, albeit at very low levels in the infected human populations. These results show that SARS-CoV-2 can mutate its spike proteins to evade antibodies, and that these mutations are already present in some virus mutants circulating in the human population." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7723407/ 28 October 2020.
And then add vaccine injury to that bad-look list at the end.
Do we need a White Knight? Or are we, as a community, to be the White Knight? And are there enough of us?
All of this just leaves such a bad taste and gets more sour and rancid by the day.
I think the easiest way to red-pill someone is to explain to them what an aerosol is. Sayin'
It's not just Pfizer, Moderna, AZ and J&J that based their vaccines on the S protein. They all seem to have done this.
The Russian Sputnik V is based on the spike, as are the Cubans vaccines.
I seem to recall reading somewhere that they decided to focus on S protein because an N-protein vax had a higher risk of ADE?
Mike Yeadon is awesome!
When the WEF comes out and says that want to depopulate, it's not conspiracy theory.
WSJ 2009
https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-WHB-1322
Link to the full interview please
Gato - you think it was truly an accidental leak (If I read this correctly). From there you diverge with Yeadon, who has said several times the entire thing was deliberate. Pre-planned from day 0 and likely, with an endgame of depopulation.
Thoughts on that?
Evil is real. History proves it. It’s time we all realize it is exactly what it seems—full on murder for depopulation and greed. Adults, children, fetuses. No one is left out of the plan. No dilly dallying around this. We are in a war. Don’t ask anyone else. Believe your own eyes and ears. It is what it looks like.
Yeah. I agree. It's happened to others in the past. We've been blessed, but those days are over.
Dr Mike was the first common sense doctor to confirm what I had suspected. He made me realize I wasn’t crazy, wasn’t losing my mind and that the world was now in the Upside Down. Thank you, Dr Yeadon. Appreciate all you’ve done & endured to keep putting the truth out.
I have listened to Mike Yeadon many times and he is clearly a very smart guy.
Yet, he continues to speak as though he believes, or assumes, that viruses are actually exist despite zero evidence for said existence.
Why the disconnect? Is it too much of a jump?
Mike Yeadon and el gato. How can you go wrong. Thank you both for your insights, data and determination.
Dig away !!!
“Knowing it would hurt you” Maybe. More likely group think.
Even Mercks rVSV viral vector vax that could not duplicate Pfizer’s “reported” trial results used spike protein DNA placed inside a modified version of a different virus. So 5.
the mrna shots were spec'ed as bio warfare defenses, 'isolate the bio weapon protein, use mrna to prep soldiers for exposure.... ' the object was to be short lived, which is why they want you to boost!
i am not in favor of putting j&j and azn in same boat as the two mrna/spike protein genetic experiments.
j&j and azn use a natural virus infested with a corona strand, a more natural, traditional vax process and one that presents a covid image for future response. i've seen one retrospective study that found marked better fatality reduction azn vs pfizer. of course, no one has said what we get from mrna!
i have seen infererence that the mrna vaxxes "desensitize" the inoculated to the spike protein and may infer support for the unsubstantiated claim that "it could have been worse, if i were not an mrna experoment"..... it also inferred repeat infection is a feature no an anomaly of mrna vaxx.
that aside i am two dose azn 1222 from usa trial and two dose moderna... i tested positive covid 19 home test last sunday. symptoms were like my allergies with a mild fever. fever cleared wednesday, i am okay! O2 saturation normal the whole time.
i am done with virtue signaling for profit, done with shots, done with masks and done with hiding!
I understood one of the reasons for selecting the spike was that it was deemed integral to the virus and that any significant mutation there would result in a less serious pathogen.
not sure i follow you.
why would spike be "more integral" than, say nucleocapsid?
Sorry, I cant recall where I read it but might have been one of the pharma documents. The suggestion was that any significant change in the spike would not be conducive to the fitness of the virus and therefore we should not be concerned about the choice of target. Not saying I agree with it, just recall that was part of the rationalisation when it was challenged.
that seems an awfully tenuous idea given the way coronaviruses mutate and risks around antigenic fixation.
should you happen to come upon the source, i'd appreciate it if you could post.
"with this much equine excrement, there has to be a pony in here somewhere…
I thought cats were wiser than that?
Oh look, it's a pony! Now your day is ruined!
Nah, just bullshit, all the way down.
horsey poo does not appear from nowhere.
my point is that something produced the excrement and we need to find it.
possible you misunderstood the metaphor.
It comes from dogs. Everyone knows that. Sometimes from martian dogs.
No other word bullshit. 10 lbs of it in a 5 lb bag.
Money well spent...
Yeah, equine excrement comes from dogs. Silly cat!
Good point to consider.
Just an fyi since you mentioned Sputnik V. I did read an article that AZ said the Russians copied their work. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/analysis/russia-astrazeneca-accused-stealing-data-covid-19-vaccine/
I would like to see her debate the Terrain Theory guy. He says virus has not been isolated, she says it has. She doesn’t seem deluded.
Hey Brian, my daughter is all in on Tom Cowan ( terrain theory guy). She keeps telling me virus' don't exist. And I say " well then what the hell are these frickin scientists manipulating in these labs, terrain? She has no answer. They're manipulating something what ever it is. Maybe it is snake venom! Who the hell knows. I'm inclined to go with virus 🙃
It is tricky when the action is taking place outside the range of human senses so skilled people are reading through ingenious devices and computer-assisted techniques. The PCR technique sounds hard to believe if a layperson has not been prepared to even be able to conceive of what is going on down there in the soup where billions of angels are dancing on the head of a pin, I guess. So with Dr. Judy Mikowits, she strikes me as being very on her game and clear as a bell. She is one of those passionate, very gifted people who went into it motivated to find a cure for cancer of a family member. My money would be on her in a debate, but it would be very interesting to see it get hashed between her and Kaufman or Cowan.
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Don’t look now, but there are new buzzwords being employed by TPTB.
“Keep UP TO DATE with your quackzinations!” when they are asked the definition of “vaccinated”. That’s the message out of the quacks in Canuckistan, Terrance Tam, agent of the CCP, and the execrable “Monster of Health” Duclos, for two.
Nothing like politicians practicing medicine, while the sheeple nod in hypnotic obeyance.
Canada is doomed. Went to Costco a Victoria BC last night. There is still a large percentage of the population here, that is, and remains lost, in their psychosis and irrational fear.
I don’t know my country anymore.
Lived in BC 'til 2020... got out March 4, just before the walls came crashing down. Pure luck it was, a long-planned move... never would have anticipated what happened in Canada or the USA... or Oz, NZ, EU... None of them are recognizable, Canada under Trudope perhaps the worst of the bunch though Avi Yemeni's reporting from Australia comes pretty close.
Yes, we will get out of this, our health remains original, with Natural Immunity. We have had serious talks about escaping to Mexico legally. The door is now open to do so, and relatively easy to get permanent residency. However, there is no guarantee that Mexico remains the “free country” that it is today, compared to the Fascist regimes of the US and Canada. Not to mention the disruption to our lives and family relationships.
It’s a roll of the dice really, if TSHTF in !Mexico too, is one better off? Unsure, but, my chances may be better here in Canada, despite the execrable political “leadership” in this country.
Worst case scenario? If they come for us, I’m going down with a fight, to the bitter end, taking out as many as I can. Better to die on your feet, than live on your knees!
I can’t imagine being/living in the lower mainland or on VI - the insanity seemingly runs deep, and I am pretty much shunned by my family who are all down there. Best of luck to you and your family! If you stay in Canada, at the very least, get the hell out of the city.
Yes and I think Gato pointed out yesterday(?) how news journals are trying to tell ppl that all sorts of countries are shooting mRNA into their babes - including China (who is not using mRNA).
You have to start wondering if you are like a N Korean who is just now finding out the world is not what your Dear Leader tells you it is. The awakening is either shattering or energizing. Or shattering then energizing. But never a nothingburger. Are we still the good guys if we are purposefully hurting and possibly killing our own ppl? Sheesh.
No one but the U.S. is vaccinating babies.
Could be.
But here in Japan, the corporate nation-state has also occasionally banned imports under the most ludicrous of reasons, just to garner enough time to make their own home-grown copies — similar to the way Amazon spots a winning product, outsources the same design to a cheaper country, and markets it under their own Amazon name.
Two corporate nation-state cases I remember specifically during trade wars — a ban or reduction of imported American beef because ... uh ... 'the Japanese intestinal tract is uniquely unsuited to non-Japanese beef', and keeping out snow skis from a Swiss maker because ... you guessed it ... Japanese snow is uniquely different from snow in other countries.
😂🤣
So obvious
Probably cheapskates and didn't wanna pay to use the patents and had no home grown mRNA technology.
Whoa! 🤯