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I'm long time subscriber to the New York Times (and progressive voter). I posted a comment on a Covid article that just said the vaccines don't stop transmission or stop people from contracting the coronavirus. I went back to the article later and the comment was deleted.

Popular US media outlets have been 100 percent silent on deaths caused by vaccines. Even New Zealand has covered a recent death from the Pfizer vaccine in their news, for Pete's sake. But our media has a code of silence.

It's crystal clear that American media outlets are working in tandem with the government and the drug manufacturers to disseminate their misinformation.

1984, indeed.

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The level of MSM censorship and promoting of false narratives is so pervasive and obvious that it is almost appears to be at the level of parody. Those who mistake the false narrative for facts, reality, and science are victims of another type. A type that is not listed in VAERS. They have been "injected" with propaganda. Fortunately the propaganda only a bit more effective as the actual covid vaccine. Maintain the narrative false narrative requires constant propaganda boosters. Just as many people who were vaxxed are not getting boosters, many people who received the initial propaganda doses aren't taking the propaganda boosters.

Since it's very obvious that MSM avoids reporting on large anti mandate protests across Europe, it is not a huge tin foil hat step to consider the possibility that the actual percentage of the population that is vaxxed may be significantly lower than what is reported by MSM. One of the aspects of an effective propaganda campaign is to make it appear that the number of people who aren't complying is smaller than it actually is. This helps to foster the illusion that the official narrative has greater consensus than may actually exist.

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Title in belgian newspaper " how to tell whether you are sick from the virus or sick from the shot '. Anyone with a brain has to think twice over that I hope.

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Unfortunately, the propaganda is being spread and magnified by "trusted" people. My friend in New Jersey got this email from her kids' pediatrician (I am no longer shielding the identity of those like this doctors' office who spread this nonsense):

From: Chestnut Ridge Pediatrics <donotreply@chestnutridgepediatrics.com>

Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:45 PM

Subject: Covid-19 Update Dec 2021

Covid-19 Update

We hope that everyone is doing well and staying safe.

We are currently seeing a very high volume of sick patients- higher than we have seen in years. We need to keep our appointment slots available for sick patients and we need to prioritize our testing supplies. Therefore, we are currently not able to test patients for events or for exposures. We also cannot test parents at this time.

We have tried very hard over the last 21 months to be here for you, our patients and families, and nothing is harder for us than to have to turn people away, but at this time we are simply overwhelmed.

We are not helpless against this current wave of covid. There are measures that we know work: masks, social distancing and vaccinations. Yes, the vaccines do work. While there are breakthrough cases, those who are vaccinated do not get as sick and have a much lower chance of getting covid or being hospitalized. What allows this virus to continue circulating and mutating to more contagious variants is when people remain unvaccinated. So please, if you or you child are eligible for a vaccine, get vaccinated. If you are 16 or older and it has been 6 months since your last dose of vaccine, get a booster. Boosters have been shown to be greatly increase the effectiveness of the vaccine against this new variant.

If you wish to schedule a Covid vaccine appointment, please send a request through the patient portal.

Please refer to these links for useful information:

COVID Data Tracker

How To Protect Yourself and Others

Kind regards,

Chestnut Ridge Pediatrics

©2021 Chestnut Ridge Pediatrics | 135 Chestnut Ridge Road | Montvale NJ 07645 | 201 391 2020

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Does this mean that all they take is vaccinations and boosters? It pretty much sounds like it. That shows you where the money is !

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Looks like it, doesn't it? The NIH sits on a $58 billion pile of money, and the sCARES act adds to the bribe pile. There are some doctors who remember who they once were, but it seems the majority wait for the latest checklist from CDC.

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I wonder how many patients you'd see arriving or leaving this office of you camped out in the parking lot for a day.

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I'm so tired of the word "booster". It's a propagandistic euphemism that I refuse to use, just like the words "breakthrough infection", intended to conjure up an image of a strong wall that's very hard to break through, a rare occurrence.

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This is ludicrous.

Healthy people are NOT at risk.

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I was intrigued to read that a Dutch online dictionary added a voted-upon word this year which translates to “vaccine regret.” WOW.

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The same is happening here in Brazil.

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Why are you still reading that propagandist rag referred to as The NYT? I used to read it but when they moved seriously into all the ‘Woke Mumbo Jumbo’ I said Adios! (I also now refer to myself as a ‘recovering’ Progressive and say The Serenity Prayer everyday!) 😉😀🙏

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Yeah, NY Times only good for understanding the propaganda angle--and why pay $ to do that when you can just listen to NPR for free and hear the same thing NYT writes?

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I gave up NPR in the beginning of 2020! I extended the Serius radio service I got when I got my new car, and I listen to music exclusively in the car! I’ve taken a few road trips and never was tempted to listen to NPR (& it’s available on Serius radio too)! There’s so many great podcasters to listen to in the car too!

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Thank you for your service in seeing the light. Let us all demand to Build Back Sanity. I know the phrase isn't suitable poll tested yet. Can we get a better one? Maybe it would become the MSM phrase of the day.

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Your red pill awaits, sir.

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Welcome to our litter of questioning kitties !

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For our nation's sake, I hope you vote differently next time. Especially at the local level. I stopped voting blue 2 years ago. Registered independent. Going forward, my #1 goal is to elect candidates who will fight for medical FREEDOM. I hope you do the same.

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I don’t know what state you live in but in CA if you register as ‘Independent’ you are in the ‘Independent’ party! I am registered as a ‘non-partisan/decline to state voter’.

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Oregon

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Cali here, too. The state has made it impossible for any vote to be anything but progressive.

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That they affirmed Newsom in spite of his incompetence says hell must freeze first.

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He wasn't affirmed. The system is rigged here. Beware the mail in ballots.

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Citizens can fix that, once motivated. Sadly I think CA has consumed the KoolAid. I hear stories that long time liberals agree the state is doing fine. They probably already own their own house and have a secure income. But many are beginning to question so vote with their feet. If the tax basis collapses change will arrive.

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Well done for being prepared to dig a little deeper and being brave enough to ask salient questions. Welcome.

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Loved to read your comment! We do have common cause - conservative and progressive.

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Yes, we do!

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Much of the us v. them narrative has been relentlessly pushed to try to prevent us all from finding common cause against the truly evil ones in our current crisis. So glad to see the conditioning breaking down on both side! Love and understanding are crucial to defeating the actual sickos who created all the bs surrounding us. With apologies to comedic genius George Carlin, “WE will have the biggest club, and we will all be in it together!”

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Everyone welcome Diego to the room. All "Hello Diego".

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Hello, Diego! You must just learn the secret handshake, ok? 😂 Welcome to CTA - conspiracy theorists anonymous...

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Pssst…the secret knowledge is that last year’s conspiracy theories were really just spoilers.

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Yep!

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New Zealand is a country of 5 million people and our government has brazenly paid more than $US60m in bribes to mainstream media described as support for ‘public interest journalism’. This has created narrative supporting, truth suppressing coverage that is Orwellian. Very occasionally something ‘real’ gets past the editor’s filters.

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Many of the so-called new organizations around the globe are owned by the same people who own Pharma.

https://rumble.com/vn7lf5-monopoly-who-owns-the-world-must-see.html?fbclid=IwAR3Ybjn_rH78u0e98wP61FItEtAMndA1do5-K6GtMNtnPObet18HKXTD1Ao

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Do you have a source for this? I had read that it was only a $5m propaganda fund.

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You mean you get taxed for a service that Bill Gates gives to our MSM at no cost whatsoever to us?? Shocking! And I thought NZ was a kind of paradise. (Another dream shattered.)

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The CDC director admitted to Blitzer in early August...nearly five months ago...that the jabs don't stop infection or transmission...of Delta. She also said the vaxxed and unvaxxed carry similar viral loads.

Post this clip. See if they take it down.

https://rumble.com/vku759-cdc-director-covid-vaccines-do-not-prevent-transmission-of-covid.html

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Yet, you brag about voting for the very people responsible for this fiasco.

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Give credit that Diego is prepared to say it and still admit he can see the cracks in the messaging. It is not easy to come here and say something like that. The best we can all hope for is that people on both sides of the divide are able to start seeing clearly and, if they didn't before, to feel able to say it, and to admit they were wrong, or that they've been duped.

At the end of the day, we need to remember the most egregious and criminal actions have been on the part of those who have instigated, who have profited, and who have been bought off - crooked policy makers, pharma, media. People who have sold their souls. Possibly even shady billionaire elites who operate with nefarious purposes (I'm still wrapping my brain around that - it seems too godawful to be true). Those who have set out deliberately to deceive or stay silent - the manipulators of data, paid "fact" checkers, recipients of pharma money and tainted research grants, morally bankrupt experts and academics, craven doctors, power-hungry leaders and governments. They have all played their part.

The little people have been well and truly played. Yes, many have succumbed to their baser instincts of scapegoating, taunting, goading, egging on, and collaborative by-standing. That will be for each to wrestle with their consciences - and in their final reckonings. For those who have suffered at their hands, we will have different things to grapple with.

These are the age-old matters of hurt, hatred, anger, blame, contrition, bitterness, forgiveness, redemption, acceptance. These are the fires that can burn us up or set us free.

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021

Thank you, Ann Glover. It's not easy to admit being duped. It's far worse to hold onto faulty viewpoints.

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I'm glad your eyes were opened. The more people who see things as they really are rather than as the illusion that has been presented is a good thing for us all.

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I feel your pain Diego. My awakening was during the 2016 Dem primary. After I realized it was all a game for and by asshole billionaires, I was angry. Now, I’m less angry but everyday is a new shock at how fast and efficient the takeover is. I told my husband that when they finally come to put the unv’d in the train for “Vaccination Makes You Free” camp, I’ll still be saying, “See, I told you so.”

It’s no fun being duped, but now you know and it’s better in the land of the knowing as it alleviates toxic cognitive dissonance.

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My (vaxxed) spouse was employed by a shadowy quasi governmental agency at 23rd & Constitution NW for 35+ years, so he has a mental habit of thinking the power is benevolent. I don’t share that affliction. So when they’re hauling me to the Peoples Vaccine Hesitancy Re-education Camp I know there will be no anxiety about my enjoyment of its facilities. After all, it’s for everyone’s benefit.

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Welcome to the club, Diego!

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Ann Glover I could not have worded that better. In fact I feel sorry for all those that have been misled. Those of my friends who blindly trusted the leaders and the chemists, their colleagues, after all, those that acted in blind fear. Some still trust in the jabs and that is their good right, if they think that is what is best for them let them be. And welcome them back. So many go for flu jabs every year. We never say a thing, even though we may think it LOL. Everyone has to live with their own conscience.

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This is the spirit of "forgiveness" everyone needs to cultivate in their souls.

Eventually, we purebloods will be given an opportunity to show that our rational and measured approach to this current madness was correct all along. When that time comes we want our "forgiveness" gene to be dominant enough for all the world to see.

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I'm always wary of pushing it, because forgiveness is a hard road, not easily embarked on or travelled. Sometimes you don't get there. Forgiveness keeps its own timeline and is often bestowed, silently, more to save one's own soul than in response to any contrition. We are all going to have a very difficult time dealing with this when it ends.

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Yes. And then all together stand of for the truth and for righteousness, and for help for all those who suffered, and still will suffer, because of this madness.

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I used to vote on the Dem side too. Not anymore. If we had had a dem governor our small business would now all be dead. Instead most of them are thriving. I have not seen one that had to close doors here in town.

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On Kirsch's Substack, he has a piece where he admits he was wrong about the Democratic party. I've not read it, but he claims he's donated $20 million to them over the years. Reckon the man is on the wealthy side.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/ok-i-admit-i-was-wrong-about-the

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I read that. That is why I am on his freebie list LOL

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Not sure Diego is bragging. Be grateful our cause is gaining numbers from all directions.

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Im so sorry that u have wasted so much of your life and mental energy and money reading trashy state media like the NYT and believing in fairy tale nonsense like “progressivism”.

If you think u are ready to transition to a more realistic sane worldview that stands for freedom and individual liberty instead of statist idolatry and anti-human collectivism try this

For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto

For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto https://smile.amazon.com/dp/1610167317/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_MWFFTBCZ0BPBEHQPDNQS

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This looks like a must-read. I have always resisted boxes, but libertarianism is something I think I've instinctively gravitated towards, always. It will be nice to see it conceptualised, so thanks for bring it to my consciousness, mifly. I'm compiling a list of books for my reading pleasure once I've been booted out my job for not complying! 😂😂😂

On this Christmas Eve I've got my stereo at full crank and am contemplating all my own wasted energies and considering new paths and reviving old thinking - so all is not lost. Peace and regeneration, all!

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start with this

https://cdn.mises.org/Anatomy+of+the+State_3.pdf

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Thanks! Will give it a go.

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That is the plan. If you die even within hours of getting it can't be the vaxx

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"American media outlets"

Translation:

Democrats/Leftists propaganda outlets, you are brainwashed by following these propaganda outlets: CNN, MSNBC, NYT, NPR, WP, ...

Democrats/Leftists are already conditioned to be obedient slaves that love state dictatorship/fascism, and not by chance Dems strongholds are the ones imposing counterproductive and draconian regulations that solve nothing.

People are fleeing from Dems irrational and dictatorial policies exactly as people have escaped from communist countries, California and New York lost House seats while real estate is booming in Florida and Texas.

Freedom is now a right-wing thing.

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Indeed !

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All the way back to the summer when it was becoming clear that vaccines didn't stop transmission, I was coming to the conclusion that mandates - public and private - were vindictive performance art and I'm certain of it at this point.

Earlier this fall, I strained some relationships with some long term friends - all of whom are in blue locales - who clung to the mandate concept and could not explain the logic beyond, "It's a real vaccine" and "It's just the right thing to do." Their reasoning was entirely vindictive once it was clear that vaccines did nothing to protect other people. It was all, "Well we did it so now these bad people also should have to do it."

This woman's twitter thread is very similar to my friends. She is clinging as tightly as she can to there being SOME benefit from the clot shots, so her twitter thread is an attempt to be reassured that she's still a good person. The last guy who responded to her has no idea what he's talking about, but they've all been reduced to bullshit rationalizations at this point, so it's all he has. But America is slowly being red pilled for sure.

Rather than argue with my friends perpetually and ruin our friendship completely, I decided a few months ago to show them a little grace and just dropped the subject and quit talking about it. They will eventually see the truth, if they haven't already.

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Im Dealing with this exact same type of dynamic with a group of doctors. I didn’t get the shot and I had natural Covid and recovered. I think that people come to their senses and realize they did some thing out of fear and foolishness and ignorance and can’t admit to themselves that they behave this way and so they blame other people

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I think once they do, they're going to be very very angry.

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Yeah - and for most of them, the focus of their anger won't be the media or pharma or policy makers.

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That’s a scary prospect. I don’t disagree with you. I wish I could.

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 24, 2021

My sister is a doctor at Kaiser Permanente (hospitalist). She told me if we didn’t get vaccinated, “You don't give a shit about anyone but your own selfish selves. As far as I am concerned you are dead to me and I do not want to hear from you again. GO FUCK YOURSELVES.” I wonder if that’s what she says to her patients as well? Pathetic.

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I have mentioned before on this blog about my son's pediatrician refusing to order him an antibody test because she was pushing the vaccine. In addition to her obviously not promoting his best interests, there was a condescending undercurrent to our discussions that I was some kind of crazy person who wasn't respecting her learned advice.

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Yes my sister in law is a physician's assistant and openly speaks of how much she hates everyone including her patients. Last time I saw her she was ranting about how some crazy COVID patients' families were sueing her hospital to get treatments that "weren't approved by the FDA". I kept silent, I don't think there's much chance of opening her mind up but boy do I feel sorry for anyone unlucky enough to have her caring for them.

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I've always wondered why patients (and doctors) can't try virtually any remedy, at least with any legal drug or substance? Doctors and hospitals are rightly concerned about risks of liability (well, not with the "emergency" meds, which is partially why they enthusiastically promote these!!!). Why can't a patient sign a waiver (give up right to sue) in return for the right (say) to be treated with ivermectin? This concept exists in American law but is (I think) quite rarely used. Sometimes it's even codified into state laws. For example, DMSO does, in fact, have a few FDA-approved uses, but there are many more off-label uses. Florida is one of only a few states that allows doctors to prescribe it off-label, subject to a waiver form that is codified in State law.

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021

92-95% of physicians have abandoned their critical thinking skills.

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I had a heart and double-lung transplant 30 years ago, so have been well-prepped in this area. I realised fairly early on that a small fraction of the highly-educated consultants and surgeons were possibly over-educated and couldn't treat me holistically, nor anything out of the manual. So the 'abandonment' is this phenomenon just been highlighted to all of us critical thinkers now.

I'd most certainly be dead if I'd listened to them all. I had to learn to pick and choose to survive.

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Wow. I've spent time in two states (SD & FL) where people freely mix without masks or without asking anyone's vax status. Kids play. Adults shop and socialize. It's nice! I wonder why there is such vitriol aimed at those who choose to enjoy their lives, whether vaxxed or not vaxxed.

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re these sanctuary states: MSM does everything to malign them and to skew their data. People in my blue enclave have no idea. Nor do they have any idea that omicron might be a godsend that could only arise as a mutation from an unvaxed population.

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Animosity towards those that have something the haters will never have: peace of mind and confidence in their decisions.

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The only one in my circle still wearing a mask is my hair dresser. He has always been a needle worshiper and a microbe freak so I forgive him. (he is also an excellent hair dresser LOL)

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I think the vitriol is a manifestation of their raw vengefulness...they prematurely rushed to do something useless, at best, and injurious or lethal, at worst, and, like a drowning man ( albeit he reacts without malice), they are wanting to drag us down with them.

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Wow. I’m sorry that your sister spoke to you like that. The fact that any doctors think or speak like that is why I’m anxious to even have a well check these days.

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Same here. I can't go to a doctor here in Canada because I simply cannot trust they will give me honest advice or even good care since I'm not "vaccinated". I think one good result of this may be decent honest doctors and nurses separating out and starting their own practices.

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I've encountered that as well.. This is what happens when fear short circuits our brains. Taking this vaccine is an entirely selfish act. The vax does not stop spread or infection. It has a very limited and meager effectiveness. A reaction like that from a doc is coming from a place of irrational fear and hysteria. This dynamic is how families where torn apart in the american civil war... its the origin of totalitarianism...

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That's beyond pathetic, it's actually alarmingly dangerous to have such a rigid---not to mention, medically illiterate---approach to medicine and science. She's beyond myopic and actually blind. Not to insult you by association, lol, but she really should not be practicing in any capacity. I know whereof I speak, since I lost my husband to an easily preventable medical error which his doctor arrogantly refused to acknowledge. He refused to review my husband's medical records, which would have shown a flashing neon sign that he was fatally wrong, dismissed us to hospice instead of treating the medication side effect that it was. Your sister's behavior is the analogue to that.

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Well you do know that one of the multitude of ‘injuries’ that people have experienced after getting these Jabs, is ‘foggy and irrational thinking’! I have a cousin who is 76, had Covid but still hit the Jab, tell me this summer that her short term memory is getting bad and her ‘brain feels foggy’. The previous summer of 2020, when I saw her, after she had Covid and was preJab, she was not like that at all. She definitely was affected.

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Got a foggy friend like that. She also has migraines recently. Today she gets her result from the doc. I hope for the best, but am afraid in her place ! Triple jabbed !

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I hope you’re right. In my neck of the woods people are still posting about whether or not they should stand next to someone who is unboosted.

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Many family and friends argue, so I no longer bring it up. I also rarely speak to them at this point. At this point, I feel they are clinging to the idea that vax at least mitigates symptoms. I see no proof.

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The Covid vaccines don't stop the spread obviously so vaccine mandates are meaningless and only an expression of state dictatorship/fascism.

The fact is that leftists love state dictatorship and following the Left Collective groupthink, that is intrinsic to them.

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My wife’s friend vaxxed her nine year old daughter a few weeks ago, despite kids having no real risk from omicron. Yesterday the daughter tested positive.

The mom has been running around for weeks with “a cold” that isn’t seeming to get better.

The vaccines make you susceptible to the virus by wiping out your T-cell immunity for weeks. Small exposures should be taken care of by the T-cells, but when you vax and boost, ANY exposure to virus will result in infection.

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I’m pretty sure my vaxxed husband and boosted visiting mother in law have it right now. But neither will get tested, because ‘it’s just a cold’ (that has one heck of a cough). Meanwhile I got covid over thanksgiving as an unvaxxed- put me down for a week, but during this latest ‘cold’ I’m perfectly fine. . .

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The less we test and report, the faster we can have our lives back. Encourage people not to test, not to report anything to anybody, nor to use medical services unless clearly extreme. My kid texted me to bring him some ibuprofen (school will not dispense without a signed Magna Carta). I show up in the health office and ask that he be brought over. "Why are you here?" "The kid said he has a headache, I have some meds from home for him." (Thought I was doing the right thing.) "Er sir (he puts on his mask), we have a protocol for symptomatic COVID to follow and headache is one of the things I will need to get him tested for. Is he currently under a physician's care for headache?" (I quick calculate......) "Um yeah, he has been seeing a....doctor....for this....um muscle tension headache from an....injury." (I all but say 'Yeah, that's the ticket!' but I don't.) Nurse guy de-escalates and takes his mask off. "Next time bring a note from your doctor." "Sure thing pal." When they add teenage acne to the list of COVID symptoms to watch for, it will already be too late.

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Overtesting of healthy people has been the problem all along because of all of the false positives. It serves to keep the panic flowing - as does forcing everyone to cover their face and act scared - so politicians are in no hurry to stop it.

And it's not people running out to get tested because they are curious, the problem is healthy people being FORCED to be tested, like your son or certain unvaccinated employees, who aren't sick but are being forced to be tested for prescriptive reasons. All it does is pump up the numbers.

Good for you to avoid the unnecessary test for your son. My son was sent home twice last year for two week stretches for being in the same room as someone who tested positive. The nurse was trying to be helpful when she said, "Just go get in tested and he can come back in one week if he's negative." She did not like my response.

If someone is symptomatic enough to go to the doctor, then by all means, give them a test while at the doctor's office. All other testing settings should be dropped.

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Insane. This is perhaps the main reason why I am thankful to live in the South (even if our governor sucks.) That attitude just doesn’t exist here. My doctor won’t test kids unless they have fever, and schools don’t even bring up Covid unless there was an exposure.

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[Jumping to conclusions] You have my sympathies. Virginia hasn't been part of the South for a very, very long time (at least that portion within commute distance of Washington.) 😁 I'm not quite a native, but I lived substantially all of my life there until about twenty years ago.

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Agreed, I don’t necessarily care that they aren’t testing, but I do care about the hypocrisy of it. That whenever I’m in close contact or whatever I have to test for every little thing, meanwhile those that are jabbed are allowed to go about their merry business. Discrimination at work is getting old. Love to see you and your kid aren’t putting up with the nurse’s bs.

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My husband and I had Covid this last January. We are not vaccinated. We have to fill out a form each time and be tested once a week to visit his 95 year old mother in the nursing home while vaxxed staff and visitors get to waltz right in with whatever viral load they might have.

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Some theater up in NH has announced that everyone has to get tested now to see a show. My friend who posted this, a conservative, said this is not moving forward. True. But the vaccines don’t seem to be working, so it makes sense to either test everyone or no one. I’d druther the latter.

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They have been so deceptive, so unethical, so immoral to us all. It is time to "give back to the community" if you know what I mean. I have no compunctions about it at this point. Vaxx card? Sure, got one right here from the "CDC." Could one try to bribe a jabber to not jab but add to the vaxxpass Matrix Skynet dbase list? It is worth a lot to me not to have the bioweapon experiment continued in me and mine. I wonder what the market price might be. Some cute pharmacist is going to get a new Fendi bag or two by lying to Fausti. It may have already begun.

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I know this is happening but those I am aware of aren't being charged anything. It's nurses that provide vaccinations at care facilities offering such a service to other nurses, doctors, their families, etc.

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Fast thinking. Good job.

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Good for them for *not* getting tested. The testing is all part of this madness. There's hope!

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Now let’s stop forcing the unvaxxed to get tested too, then we’re in business!

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Anecdotal of course, but our family is certain we had Covid in Jan 2020. My daugher had a cold last week, did a Lateral Flow test that was positive, and in two days she was over it with just a residual cough at night.

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Same. 3 "recent arrivals" with an "unspecified virus of unknown origin" arrived back from the 2019 Thanksgiving holiday in which they had spent 2 weeks in yes, Wuhan, and promptly proceeded to cough on my kid in math class. For 6 days before Christmas he had the highest fever, atypical headache and a slight coof. Then loss of taste afterward. Then the other kid picked it up, then me then the wife. By end of January we were all well again. Then a less severe Delta variant was delivered all at once in late May, 18 months later. I figure we have until next Thanksgiving or Christmas before our T immunity to nucleocapsid becomes deprecated enough to need another round. Unless Fausti straps us down and compromises our immune systems with bioagents.

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My neighbor is a big sports fan, and he noticed that the NFL, NBA and the NHL are messed up with the Wuhan even though they are 99% jabbed. It was the first time he considered anything I have been telling him for the past year.

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I saw a headline somewhere yesterday that said, "The NBA led us into covid, the NFL will lead us out."

Point being, it's too hard, both physically and logistically, to cancel football games and replay them within short periods of time. The league and the players have known all fall that most of these guys testing "positive" are not showing symptoms and aren't sick and now the almighty dollar is forcing the NFL to confront the truth and act more realistically. No more regular testing of asymptomatic vaccinated players.

It doesn't go far enough for my taste: whether or not someone is vaccinated has nothing to do with their asymptomatic contagiousness. In fact, it's probably the other way around, but it's a step in the right direction and society will eventually come to the conclusion that testing healthy people does nothing but provide disruption.

FWIW - that's a big part of Brandon's logic for the 500M additional tests. They have to keep the pandemic going another year so that they can justify using mail in ballots. That's all this is.

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The problem with the NFL or any other entity not testing only the vaxxed without symptoms is that it will appear that the unvaxxed are the only ones getting Covid which is simply untrue.

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Thats a very good point.

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May not happen. Data thus far shows vaccinated appear "primed" for omicron. Smaller percentage of unvaccinated are getting it.

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My take on the home tests is that they will return us to normal and let Biden call “victory”. Home tests don’t get reported. We all get used to using them. Just as Omnicron burns through the vaccinated…further exposing the jabs for what they are. Voila! Case counts go down! It’s over! 🎉

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I think you are mistaken to some extent. The home test kits in my (limited) experience do get reported. You have to register the kit with your phone then scan a qr code then you get a test result vis the app or text message/email. The ones my family has used are not anonymous.

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Ah! Good to know! The Abbott home kits I have seen do not require registration.

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I love how these newly "enlightened" people circle around to their same comforting conclusion: They are the "good" (the "chosen") because they have done something ridiculously minimal and want to force that ridiculously minimal thing on others (although the personal, and societal, effects of it over the long term are unknown) even though anyone with critical thinking skills would understand the useless nature of it due to the way the goalpost has been steadily pushed further and further away. But they don't have critical thinking skills. They understand "civic duty," and you, the unvaccinated, don't. That's it. That's all they need.

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It is amazing how the vaxxed people lost all sense of logic and how difficult it is to even make someone compute 2+2 to see that it is not 5.

Apparently, asking to add 2+2 is conspiracy theory and extremism.

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You are just not paying attention. These days, what 2 + 2 equals is a matter of individual choice not science… and us changeable.

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asking to calculate 2x2 is ableist.

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brain fog is a side effect of the vaccine...

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I seriously think this contributes to the problem. We're harshing their mRNA-inflicted mellow with all this "facts" stuff

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I don't only trust my own eyes and ears but also my mind, my instincs and my common sense that all have survived two years of hard core propganda!

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021

Her last comment, her favorite response, indicates she's still biased toward an an answer she wants to hear than the unwelcome truth. It's also one of the key disconnects that raised my skepticism antenna early one when it came to the solutions to the problem from the "experts." The idea that a highly mutable, airborne respiratory virus mutates because of the unvaccinated is such blatant, Salem Witch Trial level superstition that any so called "expert" or politician who promotes it cannot be believed on any level. Everything else they tell you must be questioned.

Viruses mutate to escape immunity, whether that immunity be conferred via vaccine or infection (natural immunity). This may be the very first thing somebody studying virology learns on the first day of class because it's a proven fundamental truth, Virology 101 if you will. Blaming the unvaccinated for it is the equivalent of blaming and burning the witch for random events that happen in nature. And the fact that our politicians and public health "experts" actually have sold this lie so easily is a sad revelation that humanity is still in the same dumb place it was in the days of Copernicus, only with better technology.

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I would just clarify a bit. Mutation is basically random. Results are usually indifferent, occasionally bad, sometimes fatal. A tiny fraction are positive, in the sense of favoring the survival of the mutant.

So a more evolutionist-approved wording would be something like "Successful viruses will be those with favorable mutations that allow them to evade a host's immune system."

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Appreciate the clarification. Is it fair to say in layman's wording that mutation is a natural feature of these viruses. It's what they do. And they do it because it's ultimately necessary for survival, i.e. to escape immunity?

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Unfortunately, it seems there are die-hards that will continue ignore the facts. Spent a few days with my pro-vax brother and his wife (he is a surgeon so he thinks he knows everything despite only working in hospital administration for the past decade or more). They will continue to justify the vaccines because "it would have been worse" if they weren't vaxxed when talking about all his friends that got covid. When the conversation about what vaccine everyone got came up, I left the room so I didn't have to discuss.

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021

"They will continue to justify the vaccines because "it would have been worse" if they weren't vaxxed"

You should ask Dr Moron: 'Never mind "it would have been worse" if you weren't vaxxed, but Why TF didn't the vax work in the first place? You got sick, genius. The vax DIDN'T WORK.'

You don't have a measles, mumps, chicken pox, tetanus jab - and then expect to be laid up really ill with those diseases. A vaccine STOPS those diseases, not "stops you being worse" which is subjective and unprovable.

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Something that "stops you being worse" is not a vaccine, it's a treatment.

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and not something that can be measured. not possible to know.

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Quantitative data is nice to have, but not always available. "Not everything that counts can be counted. Not everything that can be counted counts." Said by [?]

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I agree 100% but I could have said a lot of things (all facts and logic) but didn't want to go there since it was a family gathering and above all, I love my brother and wanted to enjoy our time together. I think they got the hint when I left the room to do other things and didn't chime in. That was the only talk of covid or vaccines over the 5 days, so I was relieved.

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The year my brother and I was born, we apparently got a bad batch of MMR, meaning it wasn't foolproof. When we were teens, my brother and I both came down with the mumps. They were very mild. Zero other students got sick. Zero. Because, as you point out, you don't get mumps, measles, etc. vaccines and then expect to get sick. The bad batch of MMR still managed to kick coronavirus vaccine's butt.

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Mumps is always mild. The concern with mumps is that in a small percentage of non immune pregnant women it can cause fetal loss or birth defects if infected prior to 5 months gestation. An even smaller percentage of males are infertile after mumps, but the actual illness is symptomatically mild and manageable.

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Just over one year after the vaxxes became available, Israel is rolling out jab #4 (albeit, for high-risk or selected groups first). Israel has been in the vanguard, even the lead lemming headed for the cliffs, and should be watched as an example of what to do -- or, perhaps, what NOT to do.

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People are already primed for vaccines not stopping illness and justifying with the "it would have been worse" falicy. That's how flu vaccines have always been marketed.

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I tried once to talk to my psychiatrist brother. But he knows everything and is smarter than God, because he is an MD. I won’t waste my energy again.

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My MD brother is just as blind. I’m a pharmacist and tried to talk to him about ivermectin and other early treatments, but he still believes everything from Fauci, CDC, FDA, NIH. How do they not see?

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I do not know. It’s a question I’ve been asking for 2 years.

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Mass Formation by Desmet.

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It's the new consumerism. The coastal suburbanites NPCs used to sit around at parties and trade New York Times talking points, now they sit around and talk about the latest vaccines and variants.

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Previously, talking about medications and ailments as "entertaining conversation" was the province of the elderly and infirm. Now with the vaxx, such talk is a declaration of fealty.

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At least some on the left are starting to ask questions. Though, since they still find it hard to not believe what their overlords are telling them, they aren't quite getting to the right answers... Maybe they'll get there.

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I wonder if the 500 million home tests are an attempt by the Biden Administration to bury the case numbers. Don't get me wrong- I think the testing regime needs to be shit-canned completely, but it is a step the Covidians can't take, so maybe they get the testing in-home and the numbers never get reported publicly.

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Good way to add names to their databases. If you want to test, pay cash at Walmart, 2 tests for $14, last I checked. I, for one, want no part of their Covid dataset.

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I am very suspicious about these free Biden tests. They are up to something. Always.

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And then there is that possibility. 🥺

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They are mail in tests! More testing => More cases

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EXACTLY! The cases in the words of Regis "are out of control", which will ultimate;y lead to "it's too dangerous to vote in person in 2022". Danger Will Robinson!

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Ding ding ding

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More reason for mandatory mail in voting starting in the fall. Tests arrive spring. Numbers reported in early summer. "Emergency" mandatory mail in voting starting September. Who doesn't see this??

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they're not at-home rapid tests?!?! well then they are worthless.

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They will serve the false positives purpose of ushering in mandatory mass mail in voting just in time for the fall.

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Can't find my original source and all the MSM press reports are citing rapid tests. My bad!

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They are? I thought they were like the Abbott tests we get at CVS.

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Can't find my original source and all the MSM press reports are citing rapid tests. My bad!

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It would be kind of fun to swab your dog or maybe some leftovers to see if they come up positive???

It's kind of like some of those Vegas "games" where you give them your money and ask if you'd won. Sorry pal, you lost, wanna play again?

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Not to mention, mailing "positive" test samples in the USPS - flooding the post office with Covid virus would be the most stupid public health measure ever. Way to spread the virus!

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It's a ploy to drive up false positives and justify mandatory mail in voting for 2022. It's merely a political response to the latest absolutely dismal polls the Democrats are facing. The only way to keep this farce going is another massive cheat.

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Aren’t the midterm elections in 2022? Gotta get “case numbers” down to have a hope of not losing the House?

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They want high case numbers so they can promote mail in balloting...

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Do you really think that that's the reason? I was wondering why on earth would they want to be encouraging more testing like that. Dont they realize that people are getting fed up with the whole thing? So whats the point of mailing tests to people. Of course the test companies had a lobbying hand in the getting this. But otherwise is there some grand strategy? i dont know. these people seem so stupid . So bad at what they do.

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Beyond the goal of making money (I heard ~ haven't confirmed ~ the tests were developed/sold by Bill Gates and friends) testing and case counts are the basis for the propaganda/fear porn they use to manipulate the masses and implement policy.

Given recent polling, 2022 is going to be a bloodbath for Democrats unless they can push universal mail in balloting as they did in 2020. It doesn't look like they will get any of the federal election legislation through the Senate, so using the pandemic playbook may be their only option in that regard.

If home testing is available, a high proportion of the tests will be used (human nature) and the "dangerous pandemic" narrative continues. However, as fast as Omicron is going through the country, I suspect a new variant will have to be identified down the road...

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No, gotta get the false positive numbers up to force mass mail in voting again for 2022. It's their only hope.

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Interesting.

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Look at this evilness.

Mayor Lori E. Lightfoot @chicagosmayor 18h

To put it simply, if you have been living vaccine-free, your time is up. If you wish to live life as w/the ease to do the things you love, you must be vax'd.

This health order may pose an inconvenience to the unvaccinated, and in fact it is inconvenient by design.

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Lots of minorities there are unvaxxed. A new Jim Crow? Meanwhile 27 shootings, 4 dead in Chicago last weekend.

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in BC, more people on average die daily of toxic drug overdoses than of Covid, but we rarely hear about that. we do hear about the vid relentlessly, though, and now everything is ‘cancelled’ until the third week of jan due to OMICRON (cue the scary music).

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Exactly.

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LOL "Starting Jan 3"

What a fucking crisis that it can wait until after the holidays.

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The most hilarious thing is they are devoid of seeing their ironic/moronic edicts. Self awareness is in a supply shortage I could never have imagined.

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I hope that's the case and it's not something more sinister.

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we had the repeated "surges" in afganistan: failed. we have the repeated rounds of quantitative easing: failed. We have the incessant efforts to fight a "war" on drug: failed ( Overdoses keep going up). WE have this effort to reduce health care costs: failed.

Why would ANYONE believe for a second that gov efforts to defeat a virus would be successful? Its disappointing to me ( an understatement) that so many Americans are so gullible

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Government breaks everything it touches. I wonder if a better question is why do at least some of us see that? Do we have a part of the brain others don’t - maybe we are Human Omicron variants.

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Dec 22, 2021·edited Dec 22, 2021

It’s the human psychological trait of credulity. It’s something that gave us a survival advantage when we lived in small isolated hunter gatherer tribes. It’s the reason that we believe in deities . It’s the philosophical “problem of the other“ I know that you have a mind and that your mind works in a very similar way to mine. But I cannot know your mind. I have to infer or guess about your intentions based on your actions and words. If some some thing happens in nature like a lightning strike it is a human mental trait to ascribe that event to some consciousness or agent that had intent (agency).

This psychological trait of credulity can be exploited by nefarious types. And can be very dysfunctional when we are faced with dopamine and panic stimulating phenomena like social media

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Have read that humans are the only primate with "whites" around the eye's iris. This is hypothesized to be an evolutionary adaptation. It allows others to see at what, or at least in what direction, an individual is looking. Similarly, a large part of the brain evolved to discern the mental state of the other party. Why? Clearly much rides on whether others are likely friend or foe. It's a survival advantage.

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You always need that monolithic bogeyman with one and only one solution that only the government can provide. Otherwise we wouldn’t need a government to take our money and use it to protect us from the bogeyman.

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the vaccination campaign keeps the virus alive .. without it, the virus sweeps through the population, does its damage, and becomes endemic. anyone that doesn't understand by now will never understand.

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I'm from the left and quickly jumped off that death cult as soon as covid started and they were ok with locking healthy people down

Oh and even the fraudsquad voted for the largest upward transfer of wealth in history while not doing m4a or the 15 minimum wage.

Now that I look into the history of the left, I see that they have been captured by corporations just like the right has.

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Her "favorite response so far" is absolutely ass-backwards. Anybody who has been paying even the SLIGHTEST amount of attention knows that it is precisely the vaxxed who are driving mutations by favoring the proliferation of variants against which the narrowly-focused vax antibodies are not effective. The notion that "you won't play host to the virus for too long" is a pathetic misunderstanding of high school genetics--as if the virus sets up a factory in your body to create mutations when it runs into the vax(!)--instead of the already-mutated virus finding a vaxxed host receptive because the vax is not effective against the new strain. Sheesh. Small wonder we're destroying our society. We're living in an Idiocracy.

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Furthermore, unless I heard it wrong, even when the vaxxes are "working" it does not prevent infection and passing the virus from the respiratory tract. The protection, such as it is, is in the rest of the body. The virus is perfectly happy to set up its factory in the sinuses/etc. and operate for a while, even if invading the rest of the body is too much trouble.

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