This is precisely why fully informed consent (consent free of threats) must always be the rule.
I am a nurse and until the pandemic started would have bet a year’s salary that my physician and nursing colleagues would have insisted on informed consent with regard to the vaccines. I honestly believed they would have universally demanded a cautious approach to the vaccines, as well as the NPIs that were used around the world, knowing that so much harm was likely to come from lockdowns.
I have never been more wrong. And realizing it has forever changed the way I view these professions.
These people are “good” people. They study hard, work hard, and spend their lives trying to help people. They frequently are generous with their time and money.
But they have a fatal flaw: They recognize no power greater than themselves. Their ideas of right and wrong are highly mutable because they are not founded on millennia old religious or moral code but on current trends in morality, which sometimes change almost overnight now with the advent of social media.
These people believe the authority to make decisions is conferred on them based on their professional expertise. They have proven to not have the slightest twinge of concern about overstepping their roles or establishing a precedent that will destroy our professions and cause actual physical and mental harm to many people. They are MAD that they should even have to explain things - people should just do as they are told.
Without safety controls (such as informed consents) firmly in place and vigorously enforced, we open the door to endless abuses by people who will never see themselves as evil. They will be confident in their righteousness because who else is better suited to make decisions for “the public good?”
Who or what process would be able to check that sort of power?
Knowledge that is combined with a largely unchecked ability to dictate policy but is wholly decoupled from a solid moral framework that has stood the test of time will turn itself into a monstrous force.
I was just saying the same thing to my husband last night. I had just read about an experiment concerning rats drowning in water and what happened when you gave them hope. I won't go into further details of the experiment because it was awful. I cried when I read about it. And that's probably a relatively "tame" one. We definitely have more sociopaths in our society than we think - many just hide it in professions that allow them to harm others legally.
Forget hugging grandma. At this point we're about to enter the equivalent of young children with their heads in cages full of parasites stage of Covid vaccine testing. Except we already know that subjecting children to the vax is a monstrous, unnecessary evil. If only the general populace could dredge up as much outrage at taking and/or ruining the lives children as they do for torturing puppies, some of the ghouls running this show would be administered the zombie treatment.
The mandatory vaccinate of 5 to 11 year old children to attend school is reckless and perhaps criminal. I ask only that the protection from lawsuit be removed from vaccine providers and governments and then let's see how things change.
After hearing about Remdesivir and the disastrous studies that led Fauci to proclaim that drug "safe and effective" while KNOWING it caused severe renal and liver failure in 30%+ of patients, I have no problem calling him a psychopath. He's an effing mass murderer.
Most of the people I know who deify "the science" and "the experts" are the same sorts who feel bad eating meat, and condemn ranchers for "animal cruelty". Ah the irony.
As someone who grew up on a farm, surrounded by farmers and ranchers, no one respects animal life more than they do. No one would be quicker to condemn this absurd and wanton cruelty. Everything continues to be exactly backwards in our world.
But this is widespread now, way more than 1% are not only capable of this, but gleefully participate in it everyday. These are people who would strap harmful cloth gags across children's faces for six to eight hours and then inject them with biologics known to cause harm, just al that they can “feel safe.”. And then after injecting the children, put them back in masks, cause they need to “feel safe”. And to top it off, frighten the children each and everyday so the adults can “feel safe.” This is no different than the monkey experiments. The bast majority of teachers and school administrators fall into this category.
I was indefinitely suspended from Twitter this past weekend for calling for the death penalty for Anthony Fauci. These are the aiders and abetters of this psychopathy.
Truly very penetrating, gato. The sadness of it all, the seemingly universal moral vacuum, the disappearance of honesty, the lack of empathy...all these things bring this to mind:
"How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable
Seem to me all the uses of this world!
Fie on ’t, ah fie! 'Tis an unweeded garden
That grows to seed. Things rank and gross in nature
I can’t even read the details of these horrific experiments. I have worked in medicine for many years and I have always felt there are some clinicians who enjoy whatever element of experimentation there is in treating humans. Some more than others. These scientists are sick.
I've long been sure that the people doing the CRISPR genetic meddling are satanically sure that they have a right to control creation. And the white coats you describe were little kids who liked to torture frogs and pull the legs of Daddy Long Legs just for fun. These people are my natural enemies.
I don't know if I agree that most of us are not like this. We've been leaving people to die in hospitals alone for a year and a half now because of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. I have a feeling more people than you think would fall in this category.
Sitting in small airplane seats without the necessary legroom really hurts a big guy like me. I walk around gimped up for a day after.
So for business travel, I went to my doctor at the time, and asked for an exemption for work so I could get them to pay for Economy Plus. The doctor looked at me and said "we just can't do that." I said "why?" "Well you'd have to have a back x-ray and we'd have to establish a clinical problem, with a history."
I looked at him and said "well, would you prescribe me muscle relaxers for when I fly?" He said "no problem."
And that is exactly how the medical profession is fundamentally authoritarian, and authority-supporting.
This is precisely why fully informed consent (consent free of threats) must always be the rule.
I am a nurse and until the pandemic started would have bet a year’s salary that my physician and nursing colleagues would have insisted on informed consent with regard to the vaccines. I honestly believed they would have universally demanded a cautious approach to the vaccines, as well as the NPIs that were used around the world, knowing that so much harm was likely to come from lockdowns.
I have never been more wrong. And realizing it has forever changed the way I view these professions.
These people are “good” people. They study hard, work hard, and spend their lives trying to help people. They frequently are generous with their time and money.
But they have a fatal flaw: They recognize no power greater than themselves. Their ideas of right and wrong are highly mutable because they are not founded on millennia old religious or moral code but on current trends in morality, which sometimes change almost overnight now with the advent of social media.
These people believe the authority to make decisions is conferred on them based on their professional expertise. They have proven to not have the slightest twinge of concern about overstepping their roles or establishing a precedent that will destroy our professions and cause actual physical and mental harm to many people. They are MAD that they should even have to explain things - people should just do as they are told.
Without safety controls (such as informed consents) firmly in place and vigorously enforced, we open the door to endless abuses by people who will never see themselves as evil. They will be confident in their righteousness because who else is better suited to make decisions for “the public good?”
Who or what process would be able to check that sort of power?
Knowledge that is combined with a largely unchecked ability to dictate policy but is wholly decoupled from a solid moral framework that has stood the test of time will turn itself into a monstrous force.
I was just saying the same thing to my husband last night. I had just read about an experiment concerning rats drowning in water and what happened when you gave them hope. I won't go into further details of the experiment because it was awful. I cried when I read about it. And that's probably a relatively "tame" one. We definitely have more sociopaths in our society than we think - many just hide it in professions that allow them to harm others legally.
Forget hugging grandma. At this point we're about to enter the equivalent of young children with their heads in cages full of parasites stage of Covid vaccine testing. Except we already know that subjecting children to the vax is a monstrous, unnecessary evil. If only the general populace could dredge up as much outrage at taking and/or ruining the lives children as they do for torturing puppies, some of the ghouls running this show would be administered the zombie treatment.
The mandatory vaccinate of 5 to 11 year old children to attend school is reckless and perhaps criminal. I ask only that the protection from lawsuit be removed from vaccine providers and governments and then let's see how things change.
After hearing about Remdesivir and the disastrous studies that led Fauci to proclaim that drug "safe and effective" while KNOWING it caused severe renal and liver failure in 30%+ of patients, I have no problem calling him a psychopath. He's an effing mass murderer.
Most of the people I know who deify "the science" and "the experts" are the same sorts who feel bad eating meat, and condemn ranchers for "animal cruelty". Ah the irony.
As someone who grew up on a farm, surrounded by farmers and ranchers, no one respects animal life more than they do. No one would be quicker to condemn this absurd and wanton cruelty. Everything continues to be exactly backwards in our world.
Contempt for animal life leads to contempt for human life. Edward Abbey, One Life at a Time Please, 1988
But this is widespread now, way more than 1% are not only capable of this, but gleefully participate in it everyday. These are people who would strap harmful cloth gags across children's faces for six to eight hours and then inject them with biologics known to cause harm, just al that they can “feel safe.”. And then after injecting the children, put them back in masks, cause they need to “feel safe”. And to top it off, frighten the children each and everyday so the adults can “feel safe.” This is no different than the monkey experiments. The bast majority of teachers and school administrators fall into this category.
I was indefinitely suspended from Twitter this past weekend for calling for the death penalty for Anthony Fauci. These are the aiders and abetters of this psychopathy.
Truly very penetrating, gato. The sadness of it all, the seemingly universal moral vacuum, the disappearance of honesty, the lack of empathy...all these things bring this to mind:
"How weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable
Seem to me all the uses of this world!
Fie on ’t, ah fie! 'Tis an unweeded garden
That grows to seed. Things rank and gross in nature
Possess it merely. That it should come to this."
gato, have you read C.S. Lewis’s book, That Hideous Strength? He foresaw this, like so many other things.
I can’t even read the details of these horrific experiments. I have worked in medicine for many years and I have always felt there are some clinicians who enjoy whatever element of experimentation there is in treating humans. Some more than others. These scientists are sick.
I've long been sure that the people doing the CRISPR genetic meddling are satanically sure that they have a right to control creation. And the white coats you describe were little kids who liked to torture frogs and pull the legs of Daddy Long Legs just for fun. These people are my natural enemies.
I don't know if I agree that most of us are not like this. We've been leaving people to die in hospitals alone for a year and a half now because of a virus with a 99.9% survival rate. I have a feeling more people than you think would fall in this category.
Maddening. Every one of them deserves a cruel miserable death.
A far less dramatic, but illustrative example.
Sitting in small airplane seats without the necessary legroom really hurts a big guy like me. I walk around gimped up for a day after.
So for business travel, I went to my doctor at the time, and asked for an exemption for work so I could get them to pay for Economy Plus. The doctor looked at me and said "we just can't do that." I said "why?" "Well you'd have to have a back x-ray and we'd have to establish a clinical problem, with a history."
I looked at him and said "well, would you prescribe me muscle relaxers for when I fly?" He said "no problem."
And that is exactly how the medical profession is fundamentally authoritarian, and authority-supporting.