Here's the thing. I listened to Obama speak. He was a talented orator. He was compelling and charismatic. I didn't believe a word, but I can see why people wanted to. Same with Billy J. Clinton. He had charisma and could captivate an audience.
Biden has none of the talents of Obama or BJ. As a figure head he's not an obvious choice. His VP is not much better. Having heard both "live" I'm mystified how they were chosen for the 2020 coup de magnifico. My best guess is it was a loyalty test. How absurd can things get? My theory is supported by 2021 - an escalation in absurdity beyond any level of sanity. And further validated by the first half of 2022.
I am out here in the Central Valley where they are "building" (if you can really call it that) the High Speed Rail between the metropolises of Bakersfield and Merced.....One overpass was in the wrong place and the rest is moving along at less than glacial speed now......it's pretty epic in this regard.....
A tangent, but 10-15 years ago the wackadoos who run Glacier National Park in Montana put up signs “warning” that the park’s glaciers would be gone by 2020. They took them down (the signs, not the glaciers) in 2017 after a “revised” climate forecast, lol.
I remember that. The solution to empirical evidence not supporting the model e.g. the glaciers had not shrunk but actually grown is ignore the empirical evidence.
And the worst thing about it is that we are doing it to ourselves. We as a country still have massive potential. It is not inevitable that we collapse. This is the result of horrible leadership and massive corruption.
I truly believe that this can be fixed. It just takes the political will to do so. We can START by enforcing existing laws. Corruption in the FDA, CDC, the “justice “ department, and the FBI need to be exposed and prosecuted. Federal laws appear to have been violated on a massive scale in many areas including health care and elections. PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO JAIL. Problems can be fixed. But not until those causing the problems are removed......
Come on, Mark. Aren't we too old for this Pollyanna optimism?---"if only we would just prosecute the evildoers and serve cold glasses of unicorn milk!" We live in a criminal Oligarchy and have since the New Deal. There is only one path out of this and it's a brutal, systemic collapse leading to either civil war and or military rule. There is no other plausible way to flush the evil from the system. We'll soon see how many good people remain and how many will side w the Regime.
That may indeed be the only way out. I don’t know.
I do know that doing nothing except bitching about it will inevitably lead to collapse. (This is not directed at any particular person reading this).
I also suspect that there are more than a few on “our side “ who really want a collapse. I’m not really sure why that is.....but I’m pretty sure that it’s true. If it comes, so be it....but I’m not one of those who want it. Reform would be a hell of a lot better, this country has achieved more than any other in human history ....I seem to remember a saying about babies and bath water......
Probably similar things said in Philadelphia 1776. "Franklin, why are you guys bitchin about the King? We can work it out? Independence is too drastic. Baby...bath water etc..."
Probably similar things said in St. Petersburg 1917 also. ‘The system is totally corrupt and needs to be destroyed’......well, they got exactly what they wanted and it essentially destroyed Russia and damaged much of the world. Once something like that starts no one knows where it stops.
I think that I would rather see what happens after the next two federal elections before I jump on that particular bandwagon.......
At which point Jefferson piped in "so long as you let me keep my guns, I'm OK with whatever y'all work out"
;-)
TJ was very clear in writing about the necessity (and purpose) of the right to bear arms as the primary means to allow for a peaceful redress of grievances. He was blunt: without the threat of violent overthrow, there can be no peaceful alternative. He was also blunt that any centralized power formed by man will become corrupt and only by bounding the powers of a body can the corruption be contained.
And what did King Geo call those guys? Insurrectionists ;-).
I fear it may come to that. Or complete economic meltdown. That's why I'm posted up in Florida. Whole bunch of gun states between my family and the "MALICE", which is the State.
I'll take my chances with the rest of the folks who own 500 mil guns...er...weapons of war...
What we need is people to stop complying with the edicts designed to compromise our wellbeing. There are more of us than there are of them. Remember that!
But we await that organization. Remember the Tea Party? It wasn't because we elected a black man, it was because rather than address the health care cost issues they elected to build a new system that was even more bureaucratic. Bit by bit, because of no leadership, the Tea Party was dispatched with ease although it did frighten a few politicians In response we then found a notion of MAGA, a movement that while tied to a smart jerk was in response to a government that was on tilt. The frustrations were held back as the huge ship moved just a little. But even that little movement ended in a moment of insanity now followed by disaster. So we must start again looking for a real leader and maybe a new catch phrase.
Are they? We have no idea what the election results may bring. A new President can fire all sitting federal prosecutors and appoint new ones. We have no idea what the next administration will bring.....
I’m optimistic about the long-run future of the US. Woke progressivism is a kind of cancer that has been spreading unchecked. But we can cut that cancer out.
Most Americans reject the woke agenda and its perverse and irrational goals. Socialism, open borders, a reduced defense budget but endless wars, rapid money printing, men competing in women’s sports, drag queen story hour and puberty blockers for kids, propaganda and indoctrination rather than education, defunding police…
The list goes on. These people are loud, angry weirdos. And most Americans can see that.
And this “silent majority” will make itself heard in November.
And then what? The Republicans have done fuck all to halt the march of the radical Left through every single one of Western civilization's institutions. Liberalism, even as originally conceived, is the problem. The only antidote to this is a regime that takes its bearings by something other than bodily hedonism. I don't see how that regime could be instituted at any point in the foreseeable future.
It seems to me that Ron DeSantis would be a huge step up from what we have now—an addle-brained tool of woke progressives.
And a Republican Congress would be a useful check on that tool’s corrosive influence in the mean time.
Everyone (justly) disgusted with both parties should ask himself “Was it Republican or Democrat governors, in general, that wanted to keep schools open during the pandemic?”
Republicans have a lot of problems, but they are vastly better than the alternative.
The US has suffered through a Revolution, a Civil War, a Great Depression, two World Wars, Viet Nam, assassinations, impeachments, race riots, multiple financial crises… we can make it through this too. We just need to marginalize the radical progressive left (which does not have popular support) and return to the core principles the country was founded upon.
True, I agree with where you are coming from. So *if* Desantis runs and if it is a fair election, what does this buy us, honestly? More time at most. And he would be demonized by the left more than Trump, the left will course correct after four years, and get some other waste in office that flushes us down faster than Biden is currently doing.
Voting for a corporate govt is clearly not the way, being part of them and their system only continues us down this black hole of lies and corruption. Assembling our people's lawful government, Unincorporated, seems like the only peaceful method remaining. So buy guns, ammo, and food and join your state assembly and you'll be doing your best to fix it while preparing for the worst.
Pretty obvious, but how do you get rid of all the stench? Libs are to dumb to change. Look at California and New York, they just keep reelecting morons bent on destroying our country. Nuff said!
similar authoritarian moron from the Labour Party. We can't seem to get rid of him and he doesn't know what a woman is, even though he's been married to one for 45 years.
Well except finally those in CA and NY are voting with their feet. Those who can't vote that way lead to extreme wealth divides where the corruption becomes nationally obvious. Not sustainable.
I commend your optimism. I would like to share this rosy view. I wonder though.
I agree that the insanely overt corruption should be "exposed and prosecuted" but by who? The FBI and DoJ are central points of corruption. Who will investigate the investigators and prosecute the prosecutors? I can ask the same about the CDC and FDA.
We can't depend upon the federal government to hold the federal government to account for following the rules.
The courts have become as political as the FBI, DoJ, FDA and CDC. Congress has made it clear that impeaching judges who do not comply is possible and likely. lifetime appointment now means for as long as you remain useful to The Party.
We are witnessing right now how congress, DoJ and FBI are primarily engaged in political retribution. That's scary as hell. That takes corruption to a new level. That is pretty exposed IMO.
In the last national election, 6 states posted impossible or improbably results such as vote counts that exceed the adult population of the state. One political party has a "war chest" of billions, with billions more available from the very wealthiest corporations and individuals and much of that money comes from outside the US. It has demonstrated it can dominate local elections with money, and has control of state legislatures who now bid a national party platform over local interests. Add it all up and put it in historical perspective and it's ugly.
Our one last hope is reform through elections - remove the status quo. However is that still possible? With billions to spend, with so many voters putting party loyalty first no matter what, with a media of false information and diversion, and with the overt corruption of elections process seemingly growing every day - have we passed the critical mass where the reaction can no longer be stopped?
Decentralize bureaucracy. Divest Executive Orders. Move all Federal cases out of D.C.. Paper ballots in person, at physical location, counted by real people, with an arbiter in each precinct to resolve any conflicts.
And no pussy's allowed. Vote in person. Or shrink in FEAR at home.
I agree Ryan, I didn't see your post until after I responded to TIOK, I love your ideas, wished I had thought of those, still a tall task but might just do alot of good! We can't fix this overnight but it sounds like a good start to me!
Thanks. Yes, that is the original design, right? The representative republic framed by our constitution is based on the principles of distributed power. Because power corrupts, so the only way to contain corruption is limit the concentration of power.
I'm not sure paper ballots are any more secure than other kinds, or "in person" less easily corrupted. But if we the people pay attention, and that means people really understand what is going on and where the opportunities for corruption and fraud in the process are for real, then we can restore integrity to the process.
Well stated TIOK, I agree one hundred percent, problem is DC is so corrupted along with CDC,FDA,NIH,ETC, our votes hardly matter whether you're left,right or in the middle. I'm NOT optimistic at all. I vote Republican but I don't trust 85 percent of them either. I do trust DeSantis but look what they did to Trump! Democrats and Republicans! If you don't belong to the good old boys club in DC , you are pissing into the wind. I think DeSantis may be the best hope if he can take the heat. But if he goes after the deep state,they'll destroy him. I don't know how you can fix this ingrained power they possess. THEY WON'T GIVE IT UP WITHOUT A FIGHT!!!
The key that many folks seem not to get is that it is, ultimately, about expanding and maintaining power. Look at the patterns: no matter what the crisis, the "solution" is attack and abolish liberty. That "one size fits all" should be a clue that it's not a solution but a goal unto itself.
My hope lies in enlightenment. actual information. my faith is that most people are inherently good. And capable of reason. Eventually those who have misplaced their faith in political parties may awaken to how they've been abused. I have met young people who seek truth and understanding - and who aren't buying into the religion of politics. Some are starting to see that hate is being spread, used to divide and conquer. And beginning to reject the hate. There are peaceful means of resistance. But some days it's hard to keep the hope alive - but we have to!
Obama told us he was there to manage American decline. Then that jerk Trump came in and started MAGA! He had to go. Enter the Dragon. One little leaked virus and the world is reset to managing our decline. How are they managing it? They flipped off the flight recorder and pointed the nose toward the ground.
Hahaha. So true. But now it's the ULTRA-MAGA maniacs. I take that as a compliment. Glad they paid millions for focus groups to come up with that humdinger. Money well spent imo.
I can’t help but wonder if they’re just trolling us for their amusement. A White House national climate adviser named “McCarthy” who wants to censor content? C’mon, man.
At this point I think its just mockery. You can get away with that when the members of the 4th estate are more concerned about the next elite cocktail party than they are the truth. And they're lazy.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."
Yeah. At least there used to be some "help" from old school liberals.
What happened to these types of liberals? :
"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! –Mario Savio
The old school "liberals" have been pushed over to the "right" by the progressive-fascist left, who have somehow managed to weld together the worst aspects of international and national socialism.
They are basically neo-bolsheviks wearing blackshirts.
It is in this not-left not-right netherworld that previously celebrated leftists such as Greenwald, Taibbi and Rogan inhabit.
Yeah, we had fun with the mask. We got these cool mesh masks off of Etsy that do absolutely nothing; they were just to satisfy the mask requirement. Sort of a visible FU to the authorities and masktards.
On the countable number of times I wore a mask (grocery stores), I wore a genuine 3M household dusk mask; - printed on front in fading black letters: "for house hold dust only ... other uses may impair health"
I was going to make one of those, then I thought f them all. I'm not wearing one and I never have. I just smile at people. They probably think I'm insane, nobody has said a thing.
Went to the dentist yesterday to find that they have reinstated their mask policy and required me to wear one to walk the 20-some feet into the treatment area, where all manner of venting and air purifying contraptions were whirling and buzzing.
The double-masked receptionist is "protected" by a large plexiglass barrier as wide as her desk with a hole in the middle bottom to accept the credit card, but ends before a large open-air space next to her desk so she can actually get in and out.
Thank you, fellow FREEDOM fighter! I just said f**k it and didn't wear one...except a fake one on the planes...but not until the second I boarded the flying tube in the sky.
It is part of the ultimate psyop divide-and-conquer program to separate those who balk at obvious lies and absurdities and those that swallow them whole.
Pitting the herd of tax cattle with the blue ear tag against those sporting the red while they laugh all the way to the bank.
It is not like this has been going on for ten millennia or anything.... sigh.
When someone like Larry Summers says "we need to be more civil," what he really means is "we need to join forces to silence the malcontents on both sides so we can get back the business of lining our own pockets."
I love the last two memes. And, no, you can't know history and trust the government both.
...and being civil means do as I say not as I do and comply, we know better than you.....don't protest and just accept your fate......."join forces to silence".....hmmmm....nothing good every came from that statement.....
FWIW, I know a frothing democrat who lives outside of Seattle. She is the proverbial mask Karen. I talked to her a few days ago; she is incredibly upset about gas prices and is actually blaming... wait for it... Biden. Which totally surprised me.
Wait until the blackouts hit Michigan, where her elderly Mom lives. That might make her even more angry.
The globohomo regime that's slimed its way into power across the post-West is basically Baghdad Bob at this point: yelling their delusional talking points into the camera as the bombs explode around them. Incredulity has given way to open mockery; yet still they continue, because they've got no other cards left to play.
There's the adage about authoritarians that "lying in the face of facts makes you appear stronger to your base," and Soviet defectors remarked more than once on variations of the concept that obviously false propaganda is intended not to persuade but to dominate and humiliate (because you KNOW it's a lie and can't do anything about it and, depending on the level of authoritarianism, may be forced to parrot it).
In your opinion, EGM, could that explain anything going on here?
I also think that in the era of extreme online partisanship, the fake propaganda allows you to solidify your base. By reposting or echoing the propaganda, members of the base are effectively taking a loyalty oath to your side and letting your tribe know that you will follow them no matter how far they go.
While I agree with you that Americans aren’t buying the party line, not sure why you said MSNBC (et al) are questioning it (tho I’m sure they know it’s false). Willie only asked Summers how to convey the Ukraine message better since polls indicated people didn’t believe high gas prices were because of Ukraine; he didn’t actually question him about the real reason.
It's unfortunate that I had to scroll this far down the thread to find someone sharp enough to dissect this simple point.
This post is grasping at straws, but really any post that examines MSNBC or the "mainstream media" is probably going to tacitly co-sign and traffic in the same Narrative Bullshit in a less than meaningful way.
Funnel anything into a "(insert Fake Two Party paradigm avatar for idiocy here) is dumb" and the disaffected will come a charging into the dialogue.
It's just catnip (pardon the pun) for those who don't want to process the Hate Inc. Media and Uniparty and where that actually leads, which is very difficult to rah -rah about.
jocko and darryl cooper have a really good episode of jocko unraveling speaking directly to this.
my wife’s comment after watching, “what is a woman,” is, don’t all of those people look like school shooters in waiting? we’re really destroying our children and we unironically wonder why we see the violence we’re seeing.
Some will never "wake up". But, if we are honest with ourselves, many of us were not necessarily awake at certain points of our lives either. Even as a "boomer" who has considered myself "awake" pretty much my whole life I've been able to look back and see where I was totally on the wrong side of things at times. What usually woke me up to reality was reality itself and I believe that lots of these college kids are in for a huge dose of reality very soon.
The phrase is said to originate with french post-revolutionary thinkers commenting on the works of Edmund Burke, so the meaning has changed quite a bit over the centuries.
Here, we say: "He who isn't red when he's young hasn't got a heart; he who still is red when he's an adult hasn't got a brain".
What the operative difference in english is between "doesn't have" and hasn't got" I no longer recall, so feel free to correct it.
I think "doesn't have" and "hasn't got" are about the same semantically. The "hasn't got" option is perhaps a bit slang-y, and might not be appreciated in an academic paper.
I have to say that your English overall is impeccable.
Thank you; I used to teach english as a second language but a native speaker always knows best simply due to having the instinct and affinity for what feels right, language-wise.
As for the topic of Wicked Cat's post, while form certainly matters, how much it matters varies with urgency and context I'd say. Also, Guttermouth's comment above really stole the wind from my sails so to speak as she is both 100% correct and succinct and to the point too.
As I'm more or less unable to keep it brief and snappy, I'm always in envy of those that can condense a message without losing content.
You and me both. Perhaps lengthier exposition is a common Swedish trait? In any case, I've always found your posts quite well stated, and about the right length for my taste.
I don't know who we did it, but my husband and I woke up (unwoke?) his college graduate son., probably in about six months. FYI, he was a Brandon voter. Strangely enough, I think COVID did it. He is kind of non-compliant and wasn't on board with any of the vaxxing. And then he and I struck up something of a friendship, and I began sending him bits and pieces of information. Then... Rogan came along and introduced him to Malone. And then Russell Brand started going off script. Then I gave him some videos of Dr. Zelenko to watch. He began putting two and two together and is now firmly conservative. That being said, he was never under the mass formation psychosis, so it was, perhaps, easier.
I think the other part that helped is that I listened to his opinion, and treated him more like a young co-worker than a stepson. I just sort of hand him information and let him make of it what he will. I think I started with this site: https://vigilantcitizen.com/
this is excellent. Both of my millennial daughters and their husbands are compliant and they do not allow any disagreement. So, it is difficult to visit and listen to their banter about shots for the kids, and fairness and other such rot.
LOL. Stepmother. I'm totally in denial about that one. "My husband has kids."
So... older son is almost 28. That's the college grad. The younger son is 26, married with a young son. Never went to college and is really, really red pilled. We are lucky; they are all unvaxxed, and came to that decision on their own.
Two of my husband's three siblings are vaxxed and boosted. I'm an only child, and don't have that many relatives. Those that I do have are vaxxed and boosted. I suspect my Uncle who is 89 has vaxx damage; he started having major memory issues a short time after he was vaxxed. Some of my friends are vaxxed; one took it to please her family, and now her affib issues are much worse. I don't want to say I'm on death watch like everyone else... but I'm on death watch like everyone else.
Anecdotally, we live near my husband's sons; their mom moved about two hours away, and they don't see her that much. She is, of course, vaxxed and boosted. Both of the the stepsons can be stubborn and contrarian at times; I think that worked in their favor.
True, but to keep things in perspective remember they have been doing it - and getting away with it - for a very long time. Anyone that has seriously studied the topic knows that the CIA killed Kennedy, yet there was no bigger backer of the Warren Commission report than the NYT. Even today no one in ‘respectable’ media challenges that nonsense.
Like we are unable to figure out that while they cannot stop an alien invasion across the southern border, they'll use their well-honed skills learned in Afghanistan and Ukraine to stop an intergalactic invasion.
The quote you provided from Thomas Sowell is true. The problem I have is it doesn't seem to be true based on the urban plantations we've seen carefully groomed over the last 70 years.
Maybe Biden and all the galactic ghouls BS are indeed a bridge too far?
Maybe it self resolves with no help from the RINO'S during that time period?
I wanna start a party called "Republicans for Joe Biden". Our campaign ad will be to play that clip of him boasting about how economically successful his presidency has been so far, and then say "If what this man is saying is true, you should vote for him. If not, maybe vote for someone else?"
And just when I thought I'd never get to travel again, it's the no-expenses-paid tour of the Fall of the Roman Empire...
Nah, the Romans had good roads.
Driving to hell unimpeded by potholes ain't a positive in my book...
You can't afford to drive to hell with these gas prices anyway. Just wait. It'll come to you.
I told the clerk to give me $5 on pump #1. He laughed and said, "Where do you think you're going on $5 worth of gas?" I said, "Pump #2."
Clever and Linda Blair spit-up with that comment
Best comment of the day! (I know it's early yet but you got my wholehearted nomination.)
Bravo!
That's how the state of Michigan rationalizes it's third world standard highway system. A smooth drive to Flint is still a drive to Flint.
At least the water is healthy with lead in Flint.
These beauracrats and politicians must be eating all the lead paint, in the dilapidated houses, in the "safe" neighborhoods they've created.
Remember when the Lightbringer had his own infrastructure boondoggle?
“Shovel-ready wasn’t as…uh…shovel-ready as we thought.”
It gave them "thrills" up their legs to hear the great "orator". Just ask Chris Matthews
Omg, and exclaiming about the crease in Obama’s pants (David Brooks, NYT).
Here's the thing. I listened to Obama speak. He was a talented orator. He was compelling and charismatic. I didn't believe a word, but I can see why people wanted to. Same with Billy J. Clinton. He had charisma and could captivate an audience.
Biden has none of the talents of Obama or BJ. As a figure head he's not an obvious choice. His VP is not much better. Having heard both "live" I'm mystified how they were chosen for the 2020 coup de magnifico. My best guess is it was a loyalty test. How absurd can things get? My theory is supported by 2021 - an escalation in absurdity beyond any level of sanity. And further validated by the first half of 2022.
Be fair, compare magnitudes. The Obama-era disaster cost billions. The 2021 disaster trillions. Orders of magnitude more damage.
But, to your point - just as little investment in infrastructure!
Bridges to nowhere. Libtards have perfected that skill
See California bullet train.
Exactly. Good money after bad. One of the many examples of why my wife and I decided to leave CA in 2009.
They've destroyed that state. The signs are everywhere. How do people not see this?!
I am out here in the Central Valley where they are "building" (if you can really call it that) the High Speed Rail between the metropolises of Bakersfield and Merced.....One overpass was in the wrong place and the rest is moving along at less than glacial speed now......it's pretty epic in this regard.....
Overpass in wrong place 😂😂😂. And these people are in charge of California. 🤦♀️
I know. the state has totally been ruined. I'm from San Diego. My wife and I moved out in 2009. We couldn't take it anymore.
I grew up when San Diego was just a little navy town. It has been hard to watch, up close and far away.
Pockets. Lots of people's pockets.
DUMB ? - Deep Underground Military Bases? - (CA Fitts frequently raises that possibility)
making huge gleaming propaganda road signs for display at routine road work sites
A tangent, but 10-15 years ago the wackadoos who run Glacier National Park in Montana put up signs “warning” that the park’s glaciers would be gone by 2020. They took them down (the signs, not the glaciers) in 2017 after a “revised” climate forecast, lol.
I remember that. The solution to empirical evidence not supporting the model e.g. the glaciers had not shrunk but actually grown is ignore the empirical evidence.
Griftocracy? Love it. Gonna use it. Thanks!
They still do, lol.
And the worst thing about it is that we are doing it to ourselves. We as a country still have massive potential. It is not inevitable that we collapse. This is the result of horrible leadership and massive corruption.
I truly believe that this can be fixed. It just takes the political will to do so. We can START by enforcing existing laws. Corruption in the FDA, CDC, the “justice “ department, and the FBI need to be exposed and prosecuted. Federal laws appear to have been violated on a massive scale in many areas including health care and elections. PEOPLE NEED TO GO TO JAIL. Problems can be fixed. But not until those causing the problems are removed......
Come on, Mark. Aren't we too old for this Pollyanna optimism?---"if only we would just prosecute the evildoers and serve cold glasses of unicorn milk!" We live in a criminal Oligarchy and have since the New Deal. There is only one path out of this and it's a brutal, systemic collapse leading to either civil war and or military rule. There is no other plausible way to flush the evil from the system. We'll soon see how many good people remain and how many will side w the Regime.
That may indeed be the only way out. I don’t know.
I do know that doing nothing except bitching about it will inevitably lead to collapse. (This is not directed at any particular person reading this).
I also suspect that there are more than a few on “our side “ who really want a collapse. I’m not really sure why that is.....but I’m pretty sure that it’s true. If it comes, so be it....but I’m not one of those who want it. Reform would be a hell of a lot better, this country has achieved more than any other in human history ....I seem to remember a saying about babies and bath water......
Probably similar things said in Philadelphia 1776. "Franklin, why are you guys bitchin about the King? We can work it out? Independence is too drastic. Baby...bath water etc..."
Probably similar things said in St. Petersburg 1917 also. ‘The system is totally corrupt and needs to be destroyed’......well, they got exactly what they wanted and it essentially destroyed Russia and damaged much of the world. Once something like that starts no one knows where it stops.
I think that I would rather see what happens after the next two federal elections before I jump on that particular bandwagon.......
At which point Jefferson piped in "so long as you let me keep my guns, I'm OK with whatever y'all work out"
;-)
TJ was very clear in writing about the necessity (and purpose) of the right to bear arms as the primary means to allow for a peaceful redress of grievances. He was blunt: without the threat of violent overthrow, there can be no peaceful alternative. He was also blunt that any centralized power formed by man will become corrupt and only by bounding the powers of a body can the corruption be contained.
And what did King Geo call those guys? Insurrectionists ;-).
Since Lincoln, akshually.
nope...go further back
at least since alexander hamilton
I'd like to pray for a military coup, but Austin? Milley?.
No straws in sight to grasp...
I've forgiven myself for my "white rage". I feel "free" now
Exactly. If it ever comes, it wont be those clowns.
I fear it may come to that. Or complete economic meltdown. That's why I'm posted up in Florida. Whole bunch of gun states between my family and the "MALICE", which is the State.
I'll take my chances with the rest of the folks who own 500 mil guns...er...weapons of war...
What we need is people to stop complying with the edicts designed to compromise our wellbeing. There are more of us than there are of them. Remember that!
LIKE X 1,000
But we await that organization. Remember the Tea Party? It wasn't because we elected a black man, it was because rather than address the health care cost issues they elected to build a new system that was even more bureaucratic. Bit by bit, because of no leadership, the Tea Party was dispatched with ease although it did frighten a few politicians In response we then found a notion of MAGA, a movement that while tied to a smart jerk was in response to a government that was on tilt. The frustrations were held back as the huge ship moved just a little. But even that little movement ended in a moment of insanity now followed by disaster. So we must start again looking for a real leader and maybe a new catch phrase.
Yeahbut the people who would prosecute these crimes are totally compromised.
Are they? We have no idea what the election results may bring. A new President can fire all sitting federal prosecutors and appoint new ones. We have no idea what the next administration will bring.....
You are relying on the integrity of elections.
We have no idea how votes will be counted or disregarded.
I’m optimistic about the long-run future of the US. Woke progressivism is a kind of cancer that has been spreading unchecked. But we can cut that cancer out.
Most Americans reject the woke agenda and its perverse and irrational goals. Socialism, open borders, a reduced defense budget but endless wars, rapid money printing, men competing in women’s sports, drag queen story hour and puberty blockers for kids, propaganda and indoctrination rather than education, defunding police…
The list goes on. These people are loud, angry weirdos. And most Americans can see that.
And this “silent majority” will make itself heard in November.
And then what? The Republicans have done fuck all to halt the march of the radical Left through every single one of Western civilization's institutions. Liberalism, even as originally conceived, is the problem. The only antidote to this is a regime that takes its bearings by something other than bodily hedonism. I don't see how that regime could be instituted at any point in the foreseeable future.
It seems to me that Ron DeSantis would be a huge step up from what we have now—an addle-brained tool of woke progressives.
And a Republican Congress would be a useful check on that tool’s corrosive influence in the mean time.
Everyone (justly) disgusted with both parties should ask himself “Was it Republican or Democrat governors, in general, that wanted to keep schools open during the pandemic?”
Republicans have a lot of problems, but they are vastly better than the alternative.
The US has suffered through a Revolution, a Civil War, a Great Depression, two World Wars, Viet Nam, assassinations, impeachments, race riots, multiple financial crises… we can make it through this too. We just need to marginalize the radical progressive left (which does not have popular support) and return to the core principles the country was founded upon.
My point was that there is a straight line from "rights" as understood by the Founding Fathers to this. 🤔
True, I agree with where you are coming from. So *if* Desantis runs and if it is a fair election, what does this buy us, honestly? More time at most. And he would be demonized by the left more than Trump, the left will course correct after four years, and get some other waste in office that flushes us down faster than Biden is currently doing.
Voting for a corporate govt is clearly not the way, being part of them and their system only continues us down this black hole of lies and corruption. Assembling our people's lawful government, Unincorporated, seems like the only peaceful method remaining. So buy guns, ammo, and food and join your state assembly and you'll be doing your best to fix it while preparing for the worst.
DESANTIS!
That is true. I think he's holding it down in Florida, though. No presidential run for him in '24.
We’ll see. It’s his if Trump doesn’t run.
Well said. Lawlessness at every turn. Just look at border!
Pretty obvious, but how do you get rid of all the stench? Libs are to dumb to change. Look at California and New York, they just keep reelecting morons bent on destroying our country. Nuff said!
I'm in the UK, in Wales, we are ruled by a
similar authoritarian moron from the Labour Party. We can't seem to get rid of him and he doesn't know what a woman is, even though he's been married to one for 45 years.
Well except finally those in CA and NY are voting with their feet. Those who can't vote that way lead to extreme wealth divides where the corruption becomes nationally obvious. Not sustainable.
I commend your optimism. I would like to share this rosy view. I wonder though.
I agree that the insanely overt corruption should be "exposed and prosecuted" but by who? The FBI and DoJ are central points of corruption. Who will investigate the investigators and prosecute the prosecutors? I can ask the same about the CDC and FDA.
We can't depend upon the federal government to hold the federal government to account for following the rules.
The courts have become as political as the FBI, DoJ, FDA and CDC. Congress has made it clear that impeaching judges who do not comply is possible and likely. lifetime appointment now means for as long as you remain useful to The Party.
We are witnessing right now how congress, DoJ and FBI are primarily engaged in political retribution. That's scary as hell. That takes corruption to a new level. That is pretty exposed IMO.
In the last national election, 6 states posted impossible or improbably results such as vote counts that exceed the adult population of the state. One political party has a "war chest" of billions, with billions more available from the very wealthiest corporations and individuals and much of that money comes from outside the US. It has demonstrated it can dominate local elections with money, and has control of state legislatures who now bid a national party platform over local interests. Add it all up and put it in historical perspective and it's ugly.
Our one last hope is reform through elections - remove the status quo. However is that still possible? With billions to spend, with so many voters putting party loyalty first no matter what, with a media of false information and diversion, and with the overt corruption of elections process seemingly growing every day - have we passed the critical mass where the reaction can no longer be stopped?
Decentralize bureaucracy. Divest Executive Orders. Move all Federal cases out of D.C.. Paper ballots in person, at physical location, counted by real people, with an arbiter in each precinct to resolve any conflicts.
And no pussy's allowed. Vote in person. Or shrink in FEAR at home.
There's a start.
I agree Ryan, I didn't see your post until after I responded to TIOK, I love your ideas, wished I had thought of those, still a tall task but might just do alot of good! We can't fix this overnight but it sounds like a good start to me!
Like minds. Just do it Porge!
Thanks. Yes, that is the original design, right? The representative republic framed by our constitution is based on the principles of distributed power. Because power corrupts, so the only way to contain corruption is limit the concentration of power.
I'm not sure paper ballots are any more secure than other kinds, or "in person" less easily corrupted. But if we the people pay attention, and that means people really understand what is going on and where the opportunities for corruption and fraud in the process are for real, then we can restore integrity to the process.
Thanks for the hope!
Well stated TIOK, I agree one hundred percent, problem is DC is so corrupted along with CDC,FDA,NIH,ETC, our votes hardly matter whether you're left,right or in the middle. I'm NOT optimistic at all. I vote Republican but I don't trust 85 percent of them either. I do trust DeSantis but look what they did to Trump! Democrats and Republicans! If you don't belong to the good old boys club in DC , you are pissing into the wind. I think DeSantis may be the best hope if he can take the heat. But if he goes after the deep state,they'll destroy him. I don't know how you can fix this ingrained power they possess. THEY WON'T GIVE IT UP WITHOUT A FIGHT!!!
The key that many folks seem not to get is that it is, ultimately, about expanding and maintaining power. Look at the patterns: no matter what the crisis, the "solution" is attack and abolish liberty. That "one size fits all" should be a clue that it's not a solution but a goal unto itself.
My hope lies in enlightenment. actual information. my faith is that most people are inherently good. And capable of reason. Eventually those who have misplaced their faith in political parties may awaken to how they've been abused. I have met young people who seek truth and understanding - and who aren't buying into the religion of politics. Some are starting to see that hate is being spread, used to divide and conquer. And beginning to reject the hate. There are peaceful means of resistance. But some days it's hard to keep the hope alive - but we have to!
Right. Too late for elections.
It has already been proven that the soapbox and ballot box have failed us. Unfortunately there's only one more box...
Guynoir - get on your own box
“Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up"
I have the other box ready though
Where's the will, other than in these chats, though?
Solution: Band together; person to person; at the community level and shout from the top of the mountaintops.
And put your NAME behind it. If you don't pay that "price" don't expect any change.
You have been living in Rome for a while SCA. You are on what is known as a "staycation".
So true. Somebody yesterday said it's like watching late empire decline, in real time, on the internet of THINGS.
Maybe it was you. True nonetheless
I think everyone who made it through HS History is saying it now...
Obama told us he was there to manage American decline. Then that jerk Trump came in and started MAGA! He had to go. Enter the Dragon. One little leaked virus and the world is reset to managing our decline. How are they managing it? They flipped off the flight recorder and pointed the nose toward the ground.
Hahaha. So true. But now it's the ULTRA-MAGA maniacs. I take that as a compliment. Glad they paid millions for focus groups to come up with that humdinger. Money well spent imo.
Good one!
Why do I get this funny feeling that most of the population slept through HS history?
FRONT ROW SEAT!! And all the bread and circus we can handle!!
I'd rather be exiled to one of the nicer provinces, really...
I literally lol’d
I think the Fall of the Roman Republic is far more instructive and predictive.
I can’t help but wonder if they’re just trolling us for their amusement. A White House national climate adviser named “McCarthy” who wants to censor content? C’mon, man.
At this point I think its just mockery. You can get away with that when the members of the 4th estate are more concerned about the next elite cocktail party than they are the truth. And they're lazy.
"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."
~ Theodore Dalrymple
Yeah. At least there used to be some "help" from old school liberals.
What happened to these types of liberals? :
"There is a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part; you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you’ve got to make it stop. And you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all! –Mario Savio
The old school "liberals" have been pushed over to the "right" by the progressive-fascist left, who have somehow managed to weld together the worst aspects of international and national socialism.
They are basically neo-bolsheviks wearing blackshirts.
It is in this not-left not-right netherworld that previously celebrated leftists such as Greenwald, Taibbi and Rogan inhabit.
We live in some strange-ass times.
I’m pretty sure we’re currently at war with Eastasia… Or is Eurasia? Or Oceania? I can’t remember…
Anyway, I support the current thing!
Which current thing?
Hurry now, before it is no longer current.
"In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
The truth it is what you speak..:}
So well said, it's tighter than a bull's ass at fly time.
Maybe they were frauds and grifters back then, like they are now?
Sure seems like Neil Young, et al are/were
I grew up listening to Neil. My wife and I had his music playing for our first dance at our wedding, many moons past.
When he came out for censoring Rogan, thus joining the ranks of Team Hypocrisy, it was yet another event I thought I'd never live to see.
What a disgrace.
So much for "Rocking in a Free World". What a pansy.
Charlie Baker had a good idea for a bumper sticker:
"You want freedom or just another Neil Young song about it?"
I prefer to believe they were and are stupid ignorant people who suffer from the phenomenon known as white guilt.
It should be classified as a form of mental illness and I'm not joking.
Correction: white rage.
I have hope like you. I think they'll lose in the end. The inanity is becoming ubiquitous even for the low info voter
And I used to like Neil Young! Ugh!
That's one of my favorite quote of all time.
"In some small way to become evil oneself "
💯
You're reading them here.
More sewage outlet pipes
Perhaps not for amusement, maybe more for the sheer joy of humiliating us.
"The humiliation is part of the kink."
It's a feature. One of the main features of the masking: daily humiliation
Yeah, we had fun with the mask. We got these cool mesh masks off of Etsy that do absolutely nothing; they were just to satisfy the mask requirement. Sort of a visible FU to the authorities and masktards.
On the countable number of times I wore a mask (grocery stores), I wore a genuine 3M household dusk mask; - printed on front in fading black letters: "for house hold dust only ... other uses may impair health"
Classic!
My mask was unlined lace 😂
Shame. Bad person! But it wasn't for you. It was to protect others. One of the machinations in their half-facer farce.
I was going to make one of those, then I thought f them all. I'm not wearing one and I never have. I just smile at people. They probably think I'm insane, nobody has said a thing.
Same for me. And good for you!
Stay STRONG!
https://fakemaskworldwide.com/all-products/?mc_cid=2fd58e73a3
I wore the incognito and double incognito everywhere, including international travel, and was only harassed once by the mask nazis.
I like their fake surgical masks best, personally. Nice pretty blue.
Went to the dentist yesterday to find that they have reinstated their mask policy and required me to wear one to walk the 20-some feet into the treatment area, where all manner of venting and air purifying contraptions were whirling and buzzing.
The double-masked receptionist is "protected" by a large plexiglass barrier as wide as her desk with a hole in the middle bottom to accept the credit card, but ends before a large open-air space next to her desk so she can actually get in and out.
Silicon Valley is like a bloody insane asylum.
Thank you, fellow FREEDOM fighter! I just said f**k it and didn't wear one...except a fake one on the planes...but not until the second I boarded the flying tube in the sky.
They've become Greyhounds with wings. Even up front.
I think we have a strong movement simply based on the FU premise. That's my hope
Haha, love it!
They hate us, they really hate us
It is part of the ultimate psyop divide-and-conquer program to separate those who balk at obvious lies and absurdities and those that swallow them whole.
Pitting the herd of tax cattle with the blue ear tag against those sporting the red while they laugh all the way to the bank.
It is not like this has been going on for ten millennia or anything.... sigh.
"O homines ad servitutem paratos!"
~ Tiberius, quoted by Tacitus
I would counter the only way to fight this is this way:
Power is only given to those who are prepared to lower themselves to pick it up.
He's back! We missed ya!
Rumors of my demise were premature.
Was a bit worried my friend. Good to see you back in the saddle. Lol
👏
When someone like Larry Summers says "we need to be more civil," what he really means is "we need to join forces to silence the malcontents on both sides so we can get back the business of lining our own pockets."
I love the last two memes. And, no, you can't know history and trust the government both.
When you disagree with Summers or his buddies, you're 'being divisive.' The only way to 'fix' this problem is to shut up and agree with them.
...and being civil means do as I say not as I do and comply, we know better than you.....don't protest and just accept your fate......."join forces to silence".....hmmmm....nothing good every came from that statement.....
Exactly.
FWIW, I know a frothing democrat who lives outside of Seattle. She is the proverbial mask Karen. I talked to her a few days ago; she is incredibly upset about gas prices and is actually blaming... wait for it... Biden. Which totally surprised me.
Wait until the blackouts hit Michigan, where her elderly Mom lives. That might make her even more angry.
The globohomo regime that's slimed its way into power across the post-West is basically Baghdad Bob at this point: yelling their delusional talking points into the camera as the bombs explode around them. Incredulity has given way to open mockery; yet still they continue, because they've got no other cards left to play.
https://barsoom.substack.com/p/rust-on-the-iron-pentagon
There's the adage about authoritarians that "lying in the face of facts makes you appear stronger to your base," and Soviet defectors remarked more than once on variations of the concept that obviously false propaganda is intended not to persuade but to dominate and humiliate (because you KNOW it's a lie and can't do anything about it and, depending on the level of authoritarianism, may be forced to parrot it).
In your opinion, EGM, could that explain anything going on here?
I also think that in the era of extreme online partisanship, the fake propaganda allows you to solidify your base. By reposting or echoing the propaganda, members of the base are effectively taking a loyalty oath to your side and letting your tribe know that you will follow them no matter how far they go.
While I agree with you that Americans aren’t buying the party line, not sure why you said MSNBC (et al) are questioning it (tho I’m sure they know it’s false). Willie only asked Summers how to convey the Ukraine message better since polls indicated people didn’t believe high gas prices were because of Ukraine; he didn’t actually question him about the real reason.
It's unfortunate that I had to scroll this far down the thread to find someone sharp enough to dissect this simple point.
This post is grasping at straws, but really any post that examines MSNBC or the "mainstream media" is probably going to tacitly co-sign and traffic in the same Narrative Bullshit in a less than meaningful way.
Funnel anything into a "(insert Fake Two Party paradigm avatar for idiocy here) is dumb" and the disaffected will come a charging into the dialogue.
It's just catnip (pardon the pun) for those who don't want to process the Hate Inc. Media and Uniparty and where that actually leads, which is very difficult to rah -rah about.
the beatings will continue until morale improves.
So will the school shootings. The Feds will be busy this summer, lots of planning to do before fall.
jocko and darryl cooper have a really good episode of jocko unraveling speaking directly to this.
my wife’s comment after watching, “what is a woman,” is, don’t all of those people look like school shooters in waiting? we’re really destroying our children and we unironically wonder why we see the violence we’re seeing.
Just say NO to government lies and edicts: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-say-no?s=w
But how do we wake up the kids who come out of college? They've completely bought in. Maybe just time?
Some will never "wake up". But, if we are honest with ourselves, many of us were not necessarily awake at certain points of our lives either. Even as a "boomer" who has considered myself "awake" pretty much my whole life I've been able to look back and see where I was totally on the wrong side of things at times. What usually woke me up to reality was reality itself and I believe that lots of these college kids are in for a huge dose of reality very soon.
True for me as well. All the stupid things I just assumed. I guess that gives me hope.
What's that old saying? :
"Anyone in their twenties who isn't a liberal doesn't have a heart. And Anyone in their thirties who isn't a conservative doesn't have a brain".
Something like that...
The phrase is said to originate with french post-revolutionary thinkers commenting on the works of Edmund Burke, so the meaning has changed quite a bit over the centuries.
Here, we say: "He who isn't red when he's young hasn't got a heart; he who still is red when he's an adult hasn't got a brain".
What the operative difference in english is between "doesn't have" and hasn't got" I no longer recall, so feel free to correct it.
That's even better. More illustrative
I think "doesn't have" and "hasn't got" are about the same semantically. The "hasn't got" option is perhaps a bit slang-y, and might not be appreciated in an academic paper.
I have to say that your English overall is impeccable.
Thank you; I used to teach english as a second language but a native speaker always knows best simply due to having the instinct and affinity for what feels right, language-wise.
As for the topic of Wicked Cat's post, while form certainly matters, how much it matters varies with urgency and context I'd say. Also, Guttermouth's comment above really stole the wind from my sails so to speak as she is both 100% correct and succinct and to the point too.
As I'm more or less unable to keep it brief and snappy, I'm always in envy of those that can condense a message without losing content.
You and me both. Perhaps lengthier exposition is a common Swedish trait? In any case, I've always found your posts quite well stated, and about the right length for my taste.
I don't know who we did it, but my husband and I woke up (unwoke?) his college graduate son., probably in about six months. FYI, he was a Brandon voter. Strangely enough, I think COVID did it. He is kind of non-compliant and wasn't on board with any of the vaxxing. And then he and I struck up something of a friendship, and I began sending him bits and pieces of information. Then... Rogan came along and introduced him to Malone. And then Russell Brand started going off script. Then I gave him some videos of Dr. Zelenko to watch. He began putting two and two together and is now firmly conservative. That being said, he was never under the mass formation psychosis, so it was, perhaps, easier.
I think the other part that helped is that I listened to his opinion, and treated him more like a young co-worker than a stepson. I just sort of hand him information and let him make of it what he will. I think I started with this site: https://vigilantcitizen.com/
this is excellent. Both of my millennial daughters and their husbands are compliant and they do not allow any disagreement. So, it is difficult to visit and listen to their banter about shots for the kids, and fairness and other such rot.
Thx for sharing. Great link. I'm glad you were able to pull him back from the abyss
LOL. Stepmother. I'm totally in denial about that one. "My husband has kids."
So... older son is almost 28. That's the college grad. The younger son is 26, married with a young son. Never went to college and is really, really red pilled. We are lucky; they are all unvaxxed, and came to that decision on their own.
I am envious
Two of my husband's three siblings are vaxxed and boosted. I'm an only child, and don't have that many relatives. Those that I do have are vaxxed and boosted. I suspect my Uncle who is 89 has vaxx damage; he started having major memory issues a short time after he was vaxxed. Some of my friends are vaxxed; one took it to please her family, and now her affib issues are much worse. I don't want to say I'm on death watch like everyone else... but I'm on death watch like everyone else.
Anecdotally, we live near my husband's sons; their mom moved about two hours away, and they don't see her that much. She is, of course, vaxxed and boosted. Both of the the stepsons can be stubborn and contrarian at times; I think that worked in their favor.
is there a memory thing going on with the "shotted"?
My daddy is 98 lives in a community close by. (jabbed x4) I can't tell if his memory is getting cluttered or if it is just a 98 thing
My son in law told me I was childish for sending him information about the shots, and the dangers
Yes. That's what I was looking for. Thx D. Twain
Leaving this gem here: (makes Summers quote seem sane)
https://twitter.com/StephLauren/status/1536705957744582669
Had to share! That thread is hilarious! Thanks for the laughs toolate!
Wow. Do these people even re-read their own nonsense ?
Legacy media will never be forgiven no matter what they say now and going forward. They are as much to blame as Fauci, Collins, Biden and the rest
True, but to keep things in perspective remember they have been doing it - and getting away with it - for a very long time. Anyone that has seriously studied the topic knows that the CIA killed Kennedy, yet there was no bigger backer of the Warren Commission report than the NYT. Even today no one in ‘respectable’ media challenges that nonsense.
Government: This isn’t working. Next up: Aliens
I love that reasoning by the geniuses in charge.
Like we are unable to figure out that while they cannot stop an alien invasion across the southern border, they'll use their well-honed skills learned in Afghanistan and Ukraine to stop an intergalactic invasion.
These people will blame anyone and anything but themselves.
Gato -
The quote you provided from Thomas Sowell is true. The problem I have is it doesn't seem to be true based on the urban plantations we've seen carefully groomed over the last 70 years.
Maybe Biden and all the galactic ghouls BS are indeed a bridge too far?
Maybe it self resolves with no help from the RINO'S during that time period?
I wanna start a party called "Republicans for Joe Biden". Our campaign ad will be to play that clip of him boasting about how economically successful his presidency has been so far, and then say "If what this man is saying is true, you should vote for him. If not, maybe vote for someone else?"