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it'll be limited by the requirement of verification, this is another step to the digital id thing

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i do not think that's what that means.

i suspect it's to prevent bots, not to ensure they know who every anon acct is nor a basis for digital ID.

that's not elon's style.

i think it's being misrepresented to sow dissention and FUD.

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Let's be real, if the They want to know the identity of an anon, They will find it, and likely enough They already know it.

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that isnt the point. the point is to get people used to digital identities

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Quite possibly.

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The operators have tools that can reveal identity. A screen name just keeps Charlie from down the street from throwing eggs on your car because of something you posted. Some Nextdoor members learn about Charlie although they have gotten better at allowing females in particular to obscure names.

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It also keeps employers from being able to screen you out of the running for jobs because they dont like your political or religious views.

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i hope youre right, it just feels like another little step

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There's a list of things that could get seriously messed up by the monopolistic powers of Elon. I personally think he's great and has a 15 year public history of saying and doing ultra-based actions.

But if he is running a multi-decade charade and goes bad he has/will have:

satellites covering the whole world

a five year lead on AI (minimum)

Robots in every office and home (allegedly off-line)

Chips in hundreds of thousands of people's heads.

i.e. he could be 'the one' in both good and bad scenarios. Really what's needed is a greater amount of anti-trust powers wielded at ALL the big tech, big pharm companies. and if they can't live without that, then some smaller set of companies will figure out how to keep it going.

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Take a look at Elon Musk articles on technocracy.news with search. Most important dot connect is historic, imho. His grandfather Joshua Haldeman oversaw the Canadian branch of 1930s-40s era Technocracy Inc, a large north American movement that sought to create a global totalitarian techno surveillance society but the tech was not developed enough. Musk has stated he wants a technocracy on Mars. There's also a good look at his odd business dealings by Common Sense Skeptic on youtube (links in next reply) with hundreds thousands of views. Neuralink and 5G satellites, his occult pagan girlfriend flashing signs, authentication the road to Digital IDs, etc.

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I think charging user fees would go a long way to ridding the platform of the bots.

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Bots are paid. Their paymasters will pay the fees too.

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Raising the cost of doing business will weed out any smaller players and put a crimp in the ability of the big ones to run their scams. Right now itтАЩs worth it because itтАЩs very cheap. TheyтАЩll at least have to reevaluate.

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WayOfTheBern sub reddit has a novel.approach to bots. Its called the turtle tax. If someone is clearly just there to shitmix or is doing an awful lot of copypasta or otherwise seems bottish, they get the turtle tax imposed. They can't post without including "I like turtles" in the post somewhere. If they're a bot, they keep posting sans the passphrase, blissfully unaware their posts are getting held up. If not, they're just an asshole and can get it lifted by not being an asshole for a while. No one has to agree with anyone, but if someone is just there to spam the sub with abusiveness or cut/paste they wanted a way to also discourage that without outright censorship--esp since paid trolls operate that way. If they're not a bot or a paid troll, they often figure out a constructive way to communucate, get the tax lifted, and we have some good conversation. Even if we don't all agree.

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That's probably the only surefire fix.

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Maybe not totally, but it would be a major discouragement. I also think the fake "trending" stuff (like Google biased search results) is extremely manipulative and actually doing major damage to society.

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Verification granted with every Neuralink implant!

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Neuralink is a fringe idea, of zero relevance to anything. Highly likely it will go belly up like Elon's Solar business.

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"In 2021, the company deployed solar energy systems capable of generating 345 megawatts (MW), an increase of 68% over 2020, and deployed 3.99 gigawatt-hours (GWh) ..." etc.

68% annual growth isn't quite belly up.

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345MW is peanuts and from what I've read they only exist because Musk keeps bailing them out (bailing out his brother).

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I came here to post exactly that. I shall metaphorically retweet instead.

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Are all the blue checks verified already?

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ive never used twitter so couldnt say but i guess we dont all get blue checks?

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I think they pay a small amount. Maybe a bluecheck can answer.

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