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David M. Edwards's avatar

Brilliant expose. Democrats are striving to kill everything and everyone good and positive in this world. Just asses the leaders like Swalwell and Platner if you need more convincing. I am so disgusted by the blue party but where else do losers go for mutual commiseration?

Keep up the good and relevant work

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

That constant striving has wrought some great success. These kiddies today worshiping Communism (free stuff!) were never taught the true history of 20th Century Communism and the awesome death, deprivation. and destruction it left in its wake.

Pol Pot? That's like some East Asian BBQ dish, right?

Remember that the Bolsheviks never had anywhere near the majority support of the country, but they did own the hearts and minds of the urban industrial working classes. Enough so that the revolution went forth and ruled all for seven miserable decades.

America in 2026 is closer than you might think to the new Bolsheviks. If nothing else the bulk of our media and entertainment (with the exception of Taylor Sheridan) has become the new Pravda. Ironically, most of the Russian population saw through the propaganda of their time and didn't believe a word. They just sipped their morning vodka and quietly laughed.

Young Americans take it as the word of God. Because that's what they were taught in school.

rtko's avatar

I wish the Republicans were better but are there any besides Massey who aren’t owned by AIPAC. The fight isn’t horizontal; it’s vertical.

Susan Daniels's avatar

The first step has to be to impress on people the importance of voting in primary elections. Many do not understand that that's where the names on the ballots in November come from. Most bad politicians in Washington started on the local level.

Typically only 20-23% of registered voters show up for the primaries. I saw one county had a 7% turnout. I don't know how this can be corrected. But this is where the problem starts.

el gato malo's avatar

hard to see how such voting can make good choices when the nature of the choices is beyond most voters.

PapayaSF's avatar

Politics is complex, but we usually have two general choices, and can sense which one is directionally true. Currently the basic two choices are MAGA and gay race communism. It doesn’t require genius-level knowledge or insight to grasp which one is better.

Cindi's avatar
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A friend the other day told me that although she’s a registered republican & has voted Republican all her life, she could NOT vote for Trump in the last election.

Formerly hetero & married, she recently & fashionably came out as gay & pro-tranny (& divorced) so on those issues, Trump was anathema but she’d vote for an undeniably demented cabbage or a cackling moron. That’s the dumb ass mentality I think Gato is describing, at least in part. O, & her name is KAREN. Can’t make this stuff up.

Fabes55's avatar

Even though your friend probably cannot muster an answer to "How has Trump hurt gays?".

Valoree Dowell's avatar

They have escape routes and evacuation plans for when they are rounded up. Which will be “soon.” Or so I’m told….

Susan Daniels's avatar

I refuse to hold my breath.

No's avatar

Bessent, Grenell, and others in his cabinet are fawgs. He doesn't care about that.

Susan Daniels's avatar

I think Bessent is doing an outstanding job.

Bandit's avatar

Not to knock the name Karen, I knew very many nice Karens, back in the day, in school, but the fact that it's now a derogatory name for POS, deranged females makes me laugh everytime I read or hear the name.

Rosemary B's avatar

I kind of feel sorry for ppl named Karen now. If it were my name, I would have changed it a long time ago.

Cindi's avatar

Right, Bandit? It was a very popular name for my boomer generation & I have an aunt named Karen too. But I’d sure hate to have that name today 🤣

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

I've seen "Karen" as what happens when people are propagandized and their compassion "weaponized." (male version is Kieran?) They often are those that had their names surrounded by badges, and took videos telling people to mask up. They were extremely concerned with how well others followed the "rules" of Covid. Their currency was virtue signalling.

Moray Watson's avatar

Karen sounds like she is desperate for someone to pay attention to her, and likely because she is incapable of discerning a purpose for her life. So she acts out and climbs the intersectionality pyramid instead.

Karen couldn't vote for Trump because Trump did not promise to make her special, something which the democratic marxists have no trouble doing.

Susan Daniels's avatar

I hope she doesn’t have any children. She'd try to change their gender next.

Cindi's avatar

She has a grown daughter who apparently isn’t handling the newly-gay bit very well. Can’t say I blame her - why now!

Susan Daniels's avatar

Attention getting.

Eric Fuleftists's avatar

No no no, you're quite wrong. The masses are completely brainwashed to believe that the choice is always between empathy, caring, and equality by the good people, versus self-responsibility, meritocracy, and limits on absolute freedom by the evil fascists.

PapayaSF's avatar

The masses are not that brainwashed. They may like “empathy, caring, and equality” but they know that doesn’t come from communists. The DSA makes Democrats far more associated with communism than Republicans are with “fascism.” It’s a clarifying distinction that will hurt Democrats in November.

boadicea_m's avatar

I hope you're right. I fear the trajectory is determined.

Susan Daniels's avatar

I can’t argue with the truth.

rtko's avatar

Reading this piece and coming to the conclusion that MAGA will save us is strong reinforcement of its timeliness. The fight isn’t horizontal; it’s vertical.

Dave Slough's avatar

Unless you’re a monkey which is the issue

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well thought out article. Say what you will about intelligence, and say what you will about "not having a real choice" during voting.

I would counter the choice now has never been more clear, profound and consequential.

Sometimes the argument needs to be dumbed down...because there is no other choice but future ruin if the monkeys don't get it.

Otherwise I completely agree with your article.

SheThinksLiberty's avatar

This reply confirms your entire thesis, el gato.

TheBlindSquirrel's avatar

The choices also seem to lack the knowledge or capacity for solutions. A differenent elected place holder. New boss same as old boss.

No's avatar

Where I live you only get a choice between a commie and a crook, but you invariably get both. Voting harder won't work.

T. Paine's avatar

You can vote your way into tyranny, but you can’t vote your way out of it.

No's avatar
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Your grandchildren will have to fight their way out.

Fabes55's avatar

I read "tyranny" completely different the first time, lol.

Anne K.'s avatar

Where I live, the choice is usually between several flavors of commie. All of them are crooks.

Rosemary B's avatar

Oh, you must live in Virginia too 🙄

Susan Daniels's avatar

I have a crooked prosecutor in my county and no one runs against him.

William's avatar

How about voting smarter?? Hmmm

Anne K.'s avatar

If you really want to scare yourself, read the thread on your local Nextdoor.com. Then remind yourself, these people vote.

Fabes55's avatar

I can remember some LA City primaries showing only 10-13% turn out. In LA City, population back then was at least 3M. Doing the math is sad.

Steve's avatar
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And local elections. My town elects a Republican state rep, but the local representation is somewhere between terrible and horrible. We only get past 10% turnout in a local race if there's a ballot initiative/special election that will raise our property taxes (and then it's usually a big fat NO vote).

Susan's avatar

Stunning. Lots to think about here. Thanks for your breakdown. I have no idea where this all will lead.

Jefferson Perkins's avatar

I am a precinct committeeman. I am trying. I am not succeeding. And it's illegal to bribe their participation, bless their black flabby little hearts.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

The Dems don't even reliably have primaries and when they do they can be dispensed with as happened in Maine where they pushed Graham Platner, a former Marine and Army veteran and a Communist chosen by the people in unprecedented numbers in a primary out of the senate race before he had a full chance to defend himself from the accusation that he raped a woman he was dating in 2021.

The accusation was no more credible than many of the rape and pedophilia allegations against POTUS Trump. When someone tells her "rapist" she needs her ass rubbed, then claims that somehow, oddly, he misconstrued that as an invitation, it's awful hard to take anything else she says seriously

Now the Dem leaders want to impose a new candidate acceptable to AIPAC and corporate Democrats rather than someone chosen by the people in a primary.

There is very little difference between a Republican and a corporate Democrat.

SCA's avatar

Yes, absolutely--and bonus points for "eldritch."

I think too it's important to note that Nick would love Elon if Elon were helping the Democrats. We know and they know Trump could not have become the Again President had Elon not bought Twitter. They will hate him unto death for that and certainly by their lights are right to do so.

And Nick undoubtedly feels in his bones--though he might not be able to name the emotion--jealousy of Elon too. Not just for the power that uncancellable riches give, but also for being that damned smart. Creators and builders are hated by bureaucrats.

Let's see if what we call "our side" will be smart enough not to fracture when we need to be like that Roman concrete that just gets stronger in saltwater.

Ian Schmidt's avatar

The Musk hatred is a good example of how a lot of the nominal left's nominal beliefs are purely transactional. The best example other than Musk remains one of the liberal talking heads (I think Colbert) mentioning something about James Comey. The audience booed because Comey was a lefty bad guy for stuff he did during the 2016 election. The talking head then stopped the show and reprogrammed the audience that no, now "we" loved Comey because he hates Trump. The audience then cheered. Surreal.

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Same with the jabs, according to Leftists.

The jabs were the worst thing ever, when Trump created them. "I'll never take it!"

Then once the election was stolen, the jabs were not only essential, but they had to be jabbed into everyone, and anyone who refused should lose their job, be put in a camp, their children taken from them, and refused medical care (and were taken OFF organ donation lists if they refused to be jabbed).

Liberalism is a mental illness.

The Left in America are the cancer among us. The Left in America need to be burned to the ground, the earth salted where they stood. There's plenty of stupid on the Right, but the Left is Evil.

AJoy's avatar

Dr Michael Savage coined that phrase about 20 years ago and even wrote a book with similar title. Sad no one listened to him then as he screamed and yelled about it on his talk radio show every single afternoon.

Rosemary B's avatar

I will say it again 😬😖😖😖

If it weren't for double standards, the left would have NO standards at all.

SCA's avatar

Well heck. It's hard for me that the guy makes EVs and that he's determined to scatter his seed like the gentle rain from heaven.

But much of life is transactional and we can't escape that. Best we can hope for is our nearest and dearest love us for more intangible reasons.

Ian Schmidt's avatar

Indeed!

I like the potential of EVs (you can do some really cool physics tricks with an independent motor driving each wheel and a fast computer controlling them), but current battery tech makes them a non-starter. And I think being in a market where you take money primarily from leftists is underrated as a societal strategy even though that's not his aim.

Wilma's avatar

If zero-point energy could be rediscovered, it would change the world and make us much freer!

New Considerist's avatar

His name is George and he's quite good at middleware installation.

John Wiles's avatar

Forget the politics. This writing is the best interpretation of what is going on in the world that I have read. Democracies are followed by dictatorships, or so said Plato. We don't ahve a democracy; we have a Republic. Repbulics, however, can and do show resilience with the proper set of checks and balances. Judicial- a bit of a problem; Legislative- a bit of a problem; Executive - not so much right this moment, but all are continuosly in flux and trying to hold their positions. Time limits for all of them would be a good start. We do have hope. And, yes, while AI can be used for the wrong purposes, it can also be used for some very good things as well. I certainly agree with that. Here's is a cowboy's IQ level view of the world, "I'll be looking for 8 when they pull that gate, and I hope that judge ain't blind." We need a good, smart, business savvy cowboy, who can stay at least 8 on a bad bull (not to tame it, but control it; and we need a judge who is a lot smarter than the bull and knows a good cowboy when he sees the ride. And we need millions of bull riding fans who understand how to choose the cowboys, bulls, and the riders. If it were that simple, we'd have a lot fewer 'wrecks'. Yes, we know it isn't that simple, and simplifying it is beyond reasoning. But I still have hope, and I believe there are enough high IQ people with common sense to make a difference. Okay, I'm crazy, I'm at least crazy believing in a good way.

Bandit's avatar

In my area, I know many "high IQ people." They're all dumbocraps. Hard and fast. They would never, ever vote for what is good for the city, county, state, or republic, because what might work isn't communism.

Rosemary B's avatar

crazy but very true

TriTorch's avatar

You lost me at Musk who's "success" is not only epitome of crony capitalism and the dismantling of the Sherman Antitrust act, but whose mother is a highly connected witch in the wiring of the ruling class, and her son Musk has cronically stolen other's others' success and called it his own.

Here is some food for thought regarding massive wealth and the controlled demolitions it brings which was understood over a century ago:

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From the Congressional Record, January 27, 1917:

JP Morgan, Steel, Shipbuilding, and “powder” interests hired 12 high-ranking newspaper execs to determine how to “control generally the policy of the daily press” throughout the entire country.

Answer: They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

…the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly SUPERVISE AND EDIT INFORMATION….

This policy also included the suppression of everything in opposition to the WISHES of the interests served.

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From that revelation you can draw a straight line to these:

Ten Ways Billionaires Who Hate You Are Manipulating You Right Now by unknown:

1) The first manipulation is the illusion of choice. You think you have two parties representing different visions for America but both parties are funded by the same billionaires, vote for the same surveillance bills, approve the same defense budgets, and serve the same corporate interests. The choice you are given is which color tie the puppet wears, not who controls the strings.

2) The second manipulation is emotional hijacking. The news does not inform you, it activates you. Every story is framed to trigger fear or anger or disgust because those emotions bypass your rational thinking and make you easier to control. You are not watching journalism. You are being subjected to psychological operations designed to keep you in a constant state of agitation.

3) The third manipulation is tribal sorting. The algorithm learns what makes you angry and feeds you more of it until your entire worldview is shaped by outrage at the other side. You are sorted into a tribe not because you chose it but because keeping you tribal keeps you predictable and profitable.

4) The fourth manipulation is false scarcity. You are told resources are limited and the other tribe is taking what belongs to you. Immigrants are stealing your jobs. Welfare recipients are draining your taxes. The other party is destroying your healthcare. Meanwhile the billionaire class has more wealth than any humans in history and could solve most of these problems tomorrow if they wanted to.

5) The fifth manipulation is memory holing. Stories that threaten powerful interests get buried or forgotten within days. Exposed crimes result in no consequences. Historical context that would help you understand the present is never taught. You are kept in a perpetual present with no past to learn from and no future to plan for.

6) The sixth manipulation is controlled opposition. The voices you think are fighting for you are often funded by the same interests they pretend to oppose. The outrage merchant on your side of the aisle is playing a character designed to keep you engaged and angry and tuned in while nothing ever actually changes.

7) The seventh manipulation is the Overton window. The range of acceptable opinion is artificially narrowed so that anything outside it seems extreme. Ideas that were mainstream fifty years ago are now treated as radical. Ideas that serve elite interests are treated as moderate common sense. You are not choosing your beliefs from the full range of human thought. You are choosing from a menu they wrote.

8) The eighth manipulation is learned helplessness. You are shown so many problems with no solutions that you eventually give up and accept that nothing can change. This is intentional. A population that believes resistance is futile does not resist. They scroll and complain and feel superior for understanding how bad things are while doing absolutely nothing about it.

9) The ninth manipulation is identity capture. Your political affiliation becomes your identity, and any attack on your party feels like an attack on you personally. This makes you defend politicians and policies that harm you because admitting they are wrong would mean admitting you were wrong, and your ego will not allow that.

10) The tenth manipulation is the most insidious of all: you are manipulated into believing you are too smart to be manipulated. Every person reading this thinks the manipulations I described apply to other people, the stupid people, the brainwashed people on the other side. That certainty is itself a manipulation. The moment you believe you are immune is the moment you become most vulnerable

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Much more crucial information on this mind war here -> https://tritorch.substack.com/p/there-is-something-way-bigger-going

There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject.. We cannot let them get away with these ridiculous ancient divide and conquer tactics...

It is ALL of us vs the 1%. That’s always how its been. Every single red and blue voter on the planet has way more in common with each other, and shares way more of the same values with one another, than both of them combined versus the 1% who view us as cattle. They are our predators. We work to enrich them. They feast on our efforts and divide and spread hate among us, keep us fighting over pronouns while sparing no expense to replace us with AI and slip digital chains around our necks, and all while raining down scorn.

WEF Head Yuval Harari, NYTimes Interview: thinking about all this, puts it this way: “Utopia and dystopia depends on your values.” … The useless class he describes is uniquely vulnerable. “If a century ago you mounted a revolution against exploitation, you knew that when bad comes to worse, they can’t shoot all of us because they need us,” he said, citing army service and factory work.

Now it is becoming less clear why the ruling elite would not just kill the new useless class. “You’re totally expendable,” he told the audience. … “We don’t need you. But we are nice, so we’ll take care of you.” —Archived Source (worth reading in full): https://archive.is/rWLoO

United we stand. Divided we fall—which is why we are being mercilessly divided.

el gato malo's avatar

with respect, if you think musk is the problem and not nick, you cannot see the bars of your prison.

nick is actively seeking to have you dismantle the engines of human flourishing.

what has musk (or bezos, or karpathy or whoever) done to make you poorer or less free?

TriTorch's avatar

With respect, how about both Nick and Musk are a problem?

As for Musk, he is hip deep in this unfolding prison:

Here is your impending total control grid, all brought to you and tied together by the one ring to rule them all: Digital IDs—if you consent:

CBDCs — Central Bank Digital Currency - Your money tied in with your social credit, present location, carbon footprint, vaccine status, and approved or disapproved purchasable items: on and off she goes in real time

Social Credit Scoring — Your reputation equals available freedom: Want to go to the movies? Better behave. Want to talk to your family members and friends? Better have a good score or they will scorn you lest their score goes down

Carbon Footprints — How much you get to eat, heat, cool, travel - all the way down to the micro activities of your life: any carbon creating action will deduct from your remaining allowance

Vaccine Passports — Gates on where you can travel based on your vaccination\Immunity status

15 Minute Cities — Your concentration camp prison

"Want to drive your car today? I’m sorry you said something the government didn’t like and your social credit score is no longer high enough, your air conditioner was running during the hottest part of the day and now your carbon footprint has exceeded your daily limit, you missed your last mandatory doctor’s appointment and your vaccination status is not up to date, and you live in a 15 minute city so you can walk anyway. 50 credits have been deducted from your CBDC wallet for attempting to access your rented vehicle while failing to meet these criteria.

—deducts credits—

Your bank account is now negative. 50 additional credits have been deducted for your overdraft and your social credit score has been lowered by 100 points for failing to keep a positive net balance."

Much more on this here, gato:.https://tritorch.substack.com/p/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-burgeoning

AI is the ringmaster, Starlink will be an interface, both of which Musk is working to bring online, here is what Musk says about AI:

Musk says AI is "summoning the demon", and that standing there with holy water to keep it in check, "doesn't work out."

el gato malo's avatar

this is a nonspecific and unlinked list that has zero to do with most of musk who stands in opposition to many of these ideas and is providing the one seriously uncensorable network in human history. you're holding up a generic garment and proclaiming specififc fit. that's not compelling. you're just ducking the question.

TriTorch's avatar

Stands in opposition, Musk? Are we speaking of the same person? With respect these are directly from Musk which align directly with WEF initiatives:

"It is high time there was a carbon tax."

"As a reminder im in "favor" of universal basic income."

“To be clear, i do support vaccines in general & covid vaccines specificially. The science is unequivical"

"Creating a neural lace is the thing that really matters for humanity to achieve symbiosis with machines"

In a WEF talk Musk discussed how society needs to work together to create a world government to address challenges posed by climate change and AI.

Source: https://imgur.com/a/QhEjITJ

el gato malo's avatar

you're making unfounded leaps here about positions that have basically all changed/were not as you describe. and you're still ducking the question about how he made you poorer. his buying twitter ended the covid suppression. he literally gave me my account back over it.

he's anti-WEF and has done more to stop global censorship than probably any human alive.

January 16, 2023

“WEF does kinda give me the willies though.”

Musk nevertheless acknowledged there could be value in a combined government-and-business forum.

January 17, 2023

“‘Master the Future’ doesn’t sound ominous at all … How is WEF/Davos even a thing? Are they trying to be the boss of Earth!?”

Direct X post.

January 18, 2023

“WEF is increasingly becoming an unelected world government that the people never asked for and don’t want.”

At the World Government Summit in Dubai on February 15, 2023, Musk said:

“I think we should be a little bit concerned about actually becoming too much of a single world government.”

He continued:

“We want to avoid creating a civilizational risk by having … too much cooperation between governments.”

August 26, 2022

“Population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming.”

Keith Doyon's avatar

Very real arguments. Deeply unfortunately, opinions are rarely altered by facts or truth. These are simply rationalized away; the moreso by smart people Only hooks at the emotional level ever usually change someone's outlook.

TriTorch's avatar
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Are you really asking how has a government welfare queen standimg tall on stolen tech and getting rich and successful off of taxpayer subsidies, tax credits, governement contracts, amd anti-competitive practices make me poorer?

T. Paine's avatar

A former boss of mine once said that he didn’t mind rich guys like Bezos. Why? Because they don’t have control of a military force. You should concern yourself with those who can control you. So many people can’t manage to keep their eyes on the ball.

No's avatar

Musk is no problem for me. He has no interest in harming me. I can avoid his ideas, his products and ignore him completely at no cost to myself.

Your buddy Nick won't let anyone escape the hell he has planned. That's the big difference.

Swami's avatar

Strongly disagree, Tri.

You have listed ten things you consider problems and then you simply hope we believe they are all caused and controlled by a cabal of billionaires. Let me ask you to consider alternative explanations for each problem. If unable to do so, then take a short cut and ask a paid version of AI to stress test your hypotheses. Let me know what you come back with.

TriTorch's avatar

Read these for your anwer. Harari’s utopia is your dystopia, a psychopath’s comment which few blinked at but said everything about what is planned by those who derive pleasure from.our pain:

Counterfeit Continuity in Our Fourth Estate Wasteland: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/counterfeit-continuity-in-our-fourth

There is something way bigger going on when you can divide everyone in the entire world into an 'us vs them' mentality on almost every single subject: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/there-is-something-way-bigger-going

United We Stand, Divided We Fall 🍁: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/united-we-stand-divided-we-fall

Swami's avatar

I am asking YOU to consider alternatives hypotheses.

TriTorch's avatar

Considered.

Here is more evidence supporting mine:

Norman Dodd on the Reece Committee Investigation: One of the Most Important Interviews in History: https://old.bitchute.com/video/9A3Duj2eLBLG/

I have been researching this since 2008. Give those articles read and watch that Dodd video. They do not hide thier plans and infiltrations, quite the opppsite actually.

Fabes55's avatar

I paused my reading when I got to this...

You may think that we, as a society, face a great variety of problems. We do not. We have only one. Retards.

I'm saving this forever.

Now, back to reading.

Essay33's avatar

I just watched a teacher complaining that her high school students don't understand that "the beginning of the year" means January 1, and "your first birthday" means one year to the day after the date you were born. We have reached an unimaginable level of retard in today's teens. It's only going to get worse by the time they can vote.

Wild Bill's avatar

For those interested in discovering the mysteries of the common pencil, as Gato alluded to, I offer this essay, written by Leonard Read and first published in 1958:

https://cdn.mises.org/I%20Pencil.pdf

Excerpt: "I, Pencil, simple though I appear to be, merit your wonder and awe, a claim I shall attempt to prove. In fact, if you can understand me — no, that's too much to ask of anyone — if you can

become aware of the miraculousness that I symbolize, you can help save the freedom mankind is

so unhappily losing. I have a profound lesson to teach. And I can teach this lesson better than can

an automobile or an airplane or a mechanical dishwasher because — well, because I am seemingly so simple."

usNthem's avatar

We were in a touristy southwestern mining town today, and on one street corner were a dozen or so old goat boomers (mostly women of course) with their standard “anti-fascism, no kings, maga=nazis, Trump and Putin conjoined twins separated at birth” signs and placards. Actually, my favorite was “import immigrants, deport racists”, LOL. These non critically thinking tards simply spew the garbage they lapped up as youths and never overcame as they grew to adulthood and now geezerhood - pathetic. I’m sure they’re up to date on their safe and effective covid “vaccines” as well…

Brad's avatar

I think Gato is correct to say the masses can't appreciate the value of intelligence much higher than their own, but perhaps they can be convinced that people making policy and shaping world affairs should have at least a minimum amount of intellect. Just like we put a minimum on the age of a prospective president (35 years), why not have a minimum IQ? If not, we're going to see the likes of AOC or Jasmine Crockett as our next president. Even mediocre intelligence like with Gavin Newsom, will not be sufficient to handle the complexities of our politics.

el gato malo's avatar

i admire the optimism, but if there is one things the midwit hates (especially the over educated midwit), it's the truly intelligent. and because the submidwit perceives the midwit as the most credible voice, there seems to be a natural alliance against it.

https://youtu.be/oCIo4MCO-_U?si=MqLzlQM9xsNlJt4Z

Brad's avatar
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True enough. Our founders agreed to a 35 year age minimum in the Constitution probably thinking it goes without saying the president should also have above average intelligence. :)

¡Andrew the Great!'s avatar

I'm guessing AOC (Boston University) and Jasmine Crockett (passed the bar) have sufficient intellect and IQ to pass your minimum.

They just use that intellect in service of their pathological dishonesty and totalitarian nature.

BradK (Tuckered out)'s avatar

Or that the bar itself has been so lowered -- at least for those who can check off certain boxes.

Kamala also passed the CA bar, though it did take a few tries. If that's not intellect I don't know what is.

T. Paine's avatar

“Artificial Intelligence” is a misnomer like so many other things in this Age of Lies. It is not intelligent. It can’t be. Intelligence requires comprehending what is truth, and LLMs cannot do that. It is just an infinite number of monkeys in a room full up of typewriters. And this reinforces your point. Almost no one understands what it is but they all think they do and they are sinking a ton of capital into something they have zero understanding of.

el gato malo's avatar

question:

do you think most (or any) humans can do this?

i'm resistant to this deification of human intellect as somehow complete or having access to truth. what human truly knows anything? we make up memories, perceive in slanted ways, have heads full of lies, and are terrible at internal consistency or holding large sets of salients in the working memory of our limited meat brains.

it seems assumptive to presume we're the guardians of truth or intelligence (or even in most cases meaningful sentience.)

T. Paine's avatar

No, humans are not very good at recognizing truth either. But if it’s raining outside I can go and see that it is. The “AI” has a 50% chance of telling you that it’s sunny outside when it’s actually a monsoon. It doesn’t, and can’t, know the difference.

Renaissance Engineer's avatar

> they are captured utterly by faction and politics.

I see someone else is a fan of Madison’s Federalist 10.

Maizing's avatar

I've been told by multiple people that I'm very intelligent. I look at myself, and I can SEE how stupid I am. This leads me to believe that if someone as stupid as I know I am is considered "intelligent" by other people, then the human race is doomed.

Doug Ross's avatar

One encouraging factor: new AI models are starting to predict the future with increasing levels of accuracy. Imagine in a few years that every policy that politicians suggest is run through a battery of AI predictors - what will this policy do in 12, 36 or 72 months? - and the public can judge whether the projected results are good or bad. Methinks the Democrat Party will be very sad with that development.

James John Magner's avatar

It is not a matter of IQ. As my father said, “The smartest man in the world is an idiot.” He included women, he wasn’t a sexist. The smartest people in the world raced to develop nuclear weapons, then dropped them on cities. The smartest people in the world are now racing to develop the most powerful and efficient AI weapons. Gato, you are right in many ways, but you left out the biggest factor of all, human nature. That hasn’t changed since Adam took a bite of the apple. Monkeys are monkeys.

Eric Fuleftists's avatar

Everyone has been brainwashed by the left to believe in the morality of equality, even as it inexorably pulls everything in society down to the lowest common denominator.

A society can have equality or quality, but it can't have both.

Stultitia malum permittit.