It has been fascinating to watch over the last decade as I have become steadily more extreme Right Wing™
Of course, my principles haven't changed much at all. But (classical) libertarian views on things like freedom of speech, individual responsibility, and even freedom itself are seen as being "far-right" positions these days.
But, as many have pointed out, the battleground isn't really left vs right, it's about authoritarianism vs individual freedoms. There has been a very successful, and long-running, propaganda campaign to equate 'right wing', of even the slightest hue, as being somehow immoral.
You vill have nothing, even your own views. And you vill eat ze bugs.
I agree. The conflict is not left vs. right so much as it is authoritarianism vs libertarianism. As Fukuyama or someone like that once observed, the DEGREE of government is far more important than the KIND of government.
From Ronald Reagan's 1964 speech "A Time for Choosing":
"You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down: [up] man's old -- old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course."
What a brilliant observation by him, way back then. Giorgia Meloni is apparently a great admirer of both Reagan and Trump, she mentions both of them in her 2020 NatCom speech, which I have written about here. I notice that many of the MSM news articles about her win make a point of coupling her name with Mussolini in their headlines. How utterly predictable. They're all shitting their pants, and I'm enjoying every minute of it.
I think that the pendulum is swinging back. 'We the People' have awakened to their tricks. And while they have indeed built a massive operation, including 'the greatest election fraud system ever invented,' pretty much all governments derive their power from the consent, or at least tolerance, of the governed.
So it starts with elections, and if that doesn't work (think fraud), then something else will come along. We're in the middle of that right now, it's hard to see on the surface but there are rumblings from below. Pre-shocks, as it were.
It's pretty obvious that Schwab has told all his minions 'do not give an inch' -- look at Trudope in Canada for instance -- and we will hang on and prevail. But that is also the nature of 'the last stand' -- might as well fight to the death, because we die if we don't fight.
They will keep trying to intimidate us, but like 'the great and powerful Oz,' once people figure out that they are all just 'that little man behind the curtain,' it's all over for them.
I believe you. I too feel the change in the wind. And I cleave to Gandhi's words - "When I despair, I remember that all through history, the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Always. Think of it - always."
You know, I don't think they will. I think they have been so driven down that they have chosen her and her party to pull Italy up out of the pit it is in. Her opposition has made some ominous threats ("we have tools") so she will be on her guard. And yes, I fear she'll be in constant danger. But the Italians have a sense of identity and apparent unity that we Americans seem to have lost. I watched a very good Tucker Carlson episode yesterday where he spoke of her and her win. I recommend it. As usual, he nails it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VzT4n27AC8
Woe! Slow down there, Mussolini! Responsibility and freedom?! What kind of fascism are you talking about here? Next you will say something about individuality and self-determination.
For the dullards out there, this is an example of sarcasm... On the other hand, another truth about the woke is that eventually, you can't tell the difference between "their truth" and sarcasm; so it's always best to state it up front these days. 😂
"But, as many have pointed out, the battleground isn't really left vs right, it's about authoritarianism vs individual freedoms.
Which is why labels like "left", "right", "conservative", and "progressive" really do not apply.
"There has been a very successful, and long-running, propaganda campaign to equate 'right wing', of even the slightest hue, as being somehow immoral."
It's been amazing to watch how announcing one's pronouns, masks, and submitting to multiple rounds of shots became part of the anti-Trump regalia and how "conservative" became equated with "MAGA" which became associated with "anti-vax" (which was a broad umbrella for all government-imposed pandemic response) and then "pro-Putin" (rather than simply those who may have adopted a more nuanced view of the Ukraine situation than the one given by Kamala Harris).
The theme that resonates is the Steeler's Wheel song "Stuck In The Middle With You" which talks about clowns on the left and jokers on the right. The people who are in office, the people who are attracted to politics, are all part of this, with a few exceptions. I'd almost be willing to vote for a pet rock in office if it had painted on it "I will be less government."
Wasn't there some town in the US that voted in a Golden Retriever as Mayor? Sounded like at least the dog would have the traits of loyalty, work ethic, gratitude, and a positive attitude!
If we could get dogs, cats, parrots, fish, and other pets on the ticket, that would be a clear message. The reason we vote animals into office is there are even some things animal's won't do. They may crap up the place, but at least there not driving this country further into the ground.
Bible states God made man in his image. Wait a minute. Write “GOD” on a piece of paper and then go look at it in the mirror. No wonder they voted in the golden retriever.
Amen. I went from being 'center left' to 'wow how did I wind up here'
In 2020 (before the pandemic - covid cancelled it) I had an invite to a WEF event and was so proud of myself for being considered. Now I would go to conduct opposition research. I still struggle to accept how much the world has changed.
Same here, lifelong Dem from a family of Yellow Dog Democrats. Then about 12 years ago I "went down the rabbit hole" researching climate change (global warming back then). That was it. I was red pilled. And lost family and friends, my tribe, really. That's okay, I have a new one. Just sorry I can never have an authentic relationship with my family. One positive comment about DJT and they'd strike my name from the family bible - if we had one. It takes some courage to do this - we have liberal friends who now shun us because they became too frightened of the abyss that yawned before them, just chatting about politics with us. Change is not always easy.
My husband and I lost our tribe when we chose not to get the covid “vaccine.” We now hang out with normal humans (the parents of our child’s friends). I’m still struggling to figure out how to “pivot” my online business. I have been immersed in the “radical left” since 2002. I guess one difference was that our political activity never became who we are, at least not in our own eyes. It’s scary how dogmatic my ex-tribe became. SCARY. I have always boasted an acute ability to think critically as well as to distrust everyone. Might be something to do with growing up in Mexico…..
I know exactly what you mean by "scary". We are not our politics, or shouldn't be. There was a time when you could have friends who were all over the political spectrum, and cocktail or dinner parties would be very stimulating, as ideas were exchanged, hopefully respectfully. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it", was the Liberal's credo back in the day. No longer. We are now so divided, I wonder if there can be any way back to "E pluribus, unum". Or is that gone from us forever, is our national motto now a farce?
I hope to move to Mexico for my retirement, there is much there that appeals to me.
We always kept inviting our friends and family with different politics to our garden parties. Everyone enjoyed stimulating conversations. Then everyone stopped talking to us. Our republican and conservative friends did continue to talk to us even though they thought we were wrong by not getting vaxxed. Our liberal family would on ocasion talk to us via Zoom. All our radical left political activists friends and comrades are gone from our lives. Also my clients who belong to the same kind of people. I have ALWAYS been skeptical about EVERYTHING, science included, so it was shocking for me to watch the fervor of the faith that n the vaccine early on by otherwise incredibly intelligent people. During one conversation my activist friend agreed that big pharma is evil, government is evil, media is evil…. He had no argument left except “but it is a vaccine.” Those we’re his final words. As if vaccines were absolutely good always. I guess this was the best marketing campaign in the history of humanity. I continue to be shocked….
I never realized before covid how many people were afraid of something as natural, normal and inevitable as death. That's how they drew people in - via fear. Probably the strongest of fears. If we live our lives fully, we should be able to face death at any moment, without fear. That is what I believe, and what I strive for.
I'm very sorry you've lost relationships because of your political views. I'm lucky; I'm an accidental conservative (didn't even realize I was one until later in life) and almost all my friends are liberals. As are some of my in-laws. We have an unspoken understanding; we don't talk politics. Which has enabled us to have a relationship.
I have managed to do that with just a couple of liberal friends. My problem is I live in the deepest blue part of deep blue Northern California, and I work amongst old hippies and young pot growers, sooo...90+ percent of them are virulently far left. The only relationships I can have with them are very shallow - we can't even talk about the weather and our health (see "Pygmalion"). If they know who I am, what I believe, the disapproval radiates from them and they literally don't want to be seen being friendly with me. Small town pettiness. This has really gotten worse since covid. I became pretty much a pariah for my antivax stance. I have some conservative friends here but they are all overworked ranchers with no time to do more than say howdy, that rain sure helped the hay, dinnit? If "friends" don't know my beliefs, it feels fraudulent, and I can scarcely be bothered with inauthentic relationships. They seem pretty superficial. Which is why I keep myself to myself, and also find myself here on this site so often. I thank God for you folks, you're keeping me sane.
Right there with ya. The masking has increased with time!!?? Seems it will not end. It’s a daily zen practice (which I fail often) to not scowl at how it’s a signal of their utter ignorance not virtue. I’ve never been a superficial person so faking it is not something I can muster for long. So I’ve been improving my green thumb and love my flourishing plant friends and even taken up learning some culinary skills like fermenting and other such things. I miss ‘people’ but I’d rather skip a gathering of platitude makers.
You sound like a soul sister/brother. Plants, animals and cooking - pretty much my world these days. I have always been a solitary person, so I don't miss company that much. My man is the same, and we live parallel lives, together but also giving one another a huge amount of space. We don't share a roof but live side by side - the Zulu model. Works for us. I cannot imagine a life without my solitude. And yet, I miss having someone (besides him) with whom I can reveal my deepest thoughts. I had two women friends with whom I was that close, but both have died in the past ten years. My family and I are almost entirely estranged, my sisters would condemn my politics and beliefs as crazy and evil. I haven't been open with them, and this too is a source of pain for me. I see that I demand authenticity and truth, but I'm too cowardly to bring it forth myself. Wish sometimes I wasn't so given to self-examination, Dr. Johnson be damned!
I have a hope that moving out of California will improve my chances of having some friends in my life with whom I don't have to guard my words. We shall see.
Mendo County. I'd happily face hurricanes to live in Florida but sig oth cannot take humidity. So, we're looking into Mexico, hopefully before the idiot pedophile occupying the WH along with his gang of degenerates start WWIII. Where are you currently? Please say high ground.
I feel the same way. My Grandfather called me a liberal in the 80’s. My ideals have not changed but there is no way in Hell I am even close to a liberal these days.
Liberal used to mean open-minded and support for the rights of the individual above all else. It has been perverted to mean left wing authoritarian. Orwell warned us about the dangers of perversion of language.
In theory, virtually every historical figure would be.
Except that many of them indulged the ideological seeds of today's depravity, only that they were restrained by the world around them. It's when their ideology became more powerful that we got where we are now, though many who share the ideology recoil at "going too far".
Capital L liberalism is what's dying, it's the product of the enlightenment and Western culture. The fact that the American left refers to themselves as liberals is now ironic
It's collectivism (left) vs individualism (right). Each has a healthy and dark side. It we want to advance philosophical coherence and perhaps avoid disaster, we should resist the ideological gratification of framing this as the dark side of collectivism vs the healthy side of individualism. They could do the same, like comparing a rugby team (collectivism) to a 16 year old boy "enjoying" his freedom by spending his days alone in a binge of virtual reality and porn (dark individualism).
Individualism does not preclude teamwork. Start with free individuals who can join the rugby team or not. Some will choose to, while others do their own thing.
For the record, I'm not suggesting anyone on these boards has a problem with healthy, voluntary collectivism. Our battle is clearly against dark (universal) collectivism, the rise of which has shocked and unsettled all of us.
Well, to your next-to-the-last sentence--yes, certain right-wing views that claim to uphold morality are indeed immoral.
That's the problem.
I myself am bemused daily if not hourly at how so many of my own feelings now and changes in convictions are now likely demonizable as "right-wing." Because I have no political home at all, and many of the people raging about the actual real demonstrable losses of freedom are also trying their damnedest to remove even more liberties too.
...And this is universally held by all "right wingers" (also in the case of rape or incest?) It's also morally unambiguous that it's right and good and just to kill a gestating child in the womb? No "left-wingers" hold this "right-wing" position?
And it's been noted that we are (in general) better-looking than our counterparts on the left. Something to do with discipline and self-respect, perhaps.
yes! discipline, self-respect, character, concern for others, and the desire NOT to live satisfying only your base animal instinctual drives like leftist humanists.
Great post, as usual, el Gato. But I especially wanted to thank you for pointing out that fascism is a far LEFT ideology. It drives me nuts that 99 percent of people in general, and every single imbecilic media talking head, equates fascism with conservatism run amok, somehow.
I am thinking more and more that LEFT/RIGHT political thinking lost most of its meaning not too many years after those French deputies (parliamentarians) arrived and arranged themselves on either the right or left hand side of the hall 230 or so years ago.
There is freedom and there is tyranny - period. Take your pick; draw your battle lines. Italian voters did that yesterday. We can only hope we have that choice two years from now - that may be our last chance.
There is also a people-sponsored movement calling for a Convention of States (Article 5) which can be used to cut off power to the Federal government. While I am in no way naive enough to think this will solve all our problems, it does forward policies (term limits, balanced budgets, etc) that will be enforced on either side of the aisle, and (if passed) would help limit the power of the Federal government.
I think it's worth supporting (or minimally checking out for you to make up your own mind) - as I see few options on the table at the moment. This is one of the few things I've stumbled upon that might impact the rise in authoritarianism.
Oh Keahi. You're sweet. IThx for checking. We're all good. At the moment it looks like a direct hit. But by landfall it's supposed to be a Cat2. I'm OK with that. So we're going to "ride" it out. My biggest concern is not having electricity for an extended amount of time. I can get grumpy without a/c...especially in FL.
Yeah, I bet. We thought of moving there but the Sig Oth cannot taken humidity. Crossing my fingers for you all and trusting that your wonderful governor will put things right for you in record time. Otherwise...I hear Iceland is lovely this time of year. Meanwhile, you've got some booze laid in, you're good to go. Speaking of laying in - we just found out about the threat of a national (world-wide?) beer shortage. The S.O. is headed to Safeway to see if he can get (30) 30-packs of Coors. I've told him repeatedly that we should brew our own. Maybe he'll do it now.
A suggestion to everyone who have family members in college or somewhat recently out of college:
Ask them their opinions and then let them explain their opinion. I'm not advocating arguing with them, but sincerely asking them to explain their ideas, and then presenting them with alternate ideas.
I have a smart stepson who was somewhat indoctrinated; no where near woke, but still on the left. We've had many discussions, and in less than a year, he has dramatically changed many of his opinions. Not because I told him his opinions were wrong, but because he had never actually critically examined them before or had to defend them logically. Also... Joe Rogan was a great help.
Yes. I am glad that some people at least are getting this now.
Somehow the extreme version of individualism, limited and decentralized government, mimimal regulation, minimal taxes, and freedom of expression is collectivism, centralized totalitarian government, maximum regulation, maximum taxes, and complete censorship and limitation of the content of speech. Somehow the extreme right is functionally identical to the extreme left, with a few words changed.
The Nazis had their scapegoats in the Jews, while the Communists had the bourgeoisie. In the US, where the well-defined class structure (that was supposed to define good and bad guys in Marxist lore) didn't really exist, so they changed it to "oppressed" and "oppressors," which is kind of laughable in that they are, of course, the oppressors.
The proponents of the "fascism is right wing" idea try to posit the idea that the spectrum of political views is really a horseshoe, so the extremes are actually quite close to one another. The more logical idea is that if you have to make some silly model where a one-dimensional spectrum gains a second dimension just to make it seem plausible, your premises are incorrect.
"The proponents of the "fascism is right wing" idea try to posit the idea that the spectrum of political views is really a horseshoe, so the extremes are actually quite close to one another. The more logical idea is that if you have to make some silly model where a one-dimensional spectrum gains a second dimension just to make it seem plausible, your premises are incorrect.:
I made this argument in a college Poli Sci class only to be shot down by my bewildered professor who was deeply invested in the horseshoe concept. In my mind, the spectrum is more like a circle where, as you put it, the extremes are quite close to one another. What truly differentiates Pol Pot and Khmers Rouges from Mao, Kim Il Sung, Mussolini, Hitler. Pinochet, and Stalin?
"Bidenism" is certainly taking on similar characteristics. As gato so eloquently stated, Bidenism can also be characterized as "technocratic control by the few to dominate businesses and economies and societies and inculcate them into doing what they were told 'for the collective good' and accepting the top down all-encompassing dictates of a ruling class whose precepts may be neither denied nor resisted generally referred to as totalitarianism."
well it is to a degree; because otherwise, without labels, they wouldn't have a "jar" to shake us in. Very few would be willing to enter the jar of agitation if they did not view labeling others as the "enemy".
It's true but surprising with how little meaning these labels seem to have that people can still get worked up over them. Antivaxxers are anybody who didn't get the latest booster shots, Nazis are really bad white supremacist MAGA extremists except we give them a bunch of money in Ukraine, on and on it goes. It's so contradictory it's hard to keep up..
Yeah. Orwell was right. Labels are important, but who gets to define the labels is more important. The faster the labels change, the busier the folks at the Ministry of Truth; but the principle itself never changes.
It's a European idea that fascism is right wing. In the US, it used to be that right wing equated with anarchy and no government at all. It seems that the schools and media have not taught the proper history of the US.
Next time someone equates fascism with conservatism, just ask for an example, usually you'll get some incoherent rant with no basis or silence 😉. Works for me!
That’s right,LP. If you Google ‘Nazi’, the definition that comes up is:
Nazi party is the byname of the National Socialist German Workers’ party (Nationalsozialische Deutssch Arbiterparti), “the political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism”.
The other one that is a complete LIE is the good 'ol "the Democrats and Republicans switched platforms" - magically after the Civil Rights movement. Da fuq ? I always ask them. "OK, if they truly switched in the late 1960's - name me 5 that changed teams ?" You'll get a blank stare and the conversation will end.
I don’t think people should trust any politician. All politicians seem to be technocrats using the culture war to gain power. When will a politician come along who says the government doesn’t have the power to impose that solution but here are some possible suggestions based on my experience. The only politician I might trust is one who doesn’t have a Twitter account.
"The only politician I might trust is one who doesn’t have a Twitter account."
But that politician is one most people (including you) have never heard of, and will never know either to trust or to vote for. Catch 22. The system triumphs again.
I didn't know she was a member of the aspen institute. They're pretty keen on digitalisation, aren't they? If I remember well she was pushing for the digital ID recently. I think the reason she can come out against the green pass is perhaps she knows it'll be superceded soon.
“Meloni has described Moscow’s invasion as an “unacceptable large scale act of war by Putin’s Russia against Ukraine” and advocates sending weapons to the government in Kyiv.” Yep, another NATO supporter cleverly using the divide caused by a cultural war to advance A nuclear one.
Many if not all actors in the political spectrum are controlled.
That way the puppet masters leave nothing to chance and prevent the people thinking and actually acting out the removal of all politicians, removal of all alphabet agencies and ministries in all countries and implementing the necessary actions to ensure the rule of the people and not the "elites".
That CBS "news" clip was amazing. I have almost as much contempt for reporters who've discarded ethics and objectivity as I do for the people at the helm of this move towards totalitarianism. Once (if?) this insanity breaks, I would make it mandatory that only thrice-divorced, chain-smoking, extraordinarily cynical 55+ yo men be reporters.
Very interesting! I voted to leave the EU precisely because of Brussels and the unaccountable people like Ursula!
Not that it's made much difference to things in the UK though.
Depressingly, I really doubt the People of the western democracies will be doing any rising up in the near future. Most people really just don't care. Don't care who's in charge. Don't care who's watching them. Don't care what they're told to do. So long as they have a bit of money on the app/in the bank/in the wallet, the holiday to somewhere sunny, the takeaways, the TV reality. That'll do. They take their medicine, do what's required, don't really give it much thought. By the time they realise, it will be too late and they will sigh and go back to eating pizza whilst watching some reality crap on TV.
Don't despair. In political science, there's a theory that revolutions always come as a surprise because of "preference falsification." Essentially, the more repressive the regime, the more people hide their dissatisfaction. This means that nobody knows how close anyone else is to their "revolutionary threshold." Often it takes just one tipping point to start what's called a "revolutionary cascade," where previously complacent people suddenly pour into the streets en masse with torches and pitchforks.
Yes, look at what is happening in Iran right now. They have been repressed by a mullocracy since 1979. There have been a few whimpers of an uprising here and there over the years (never supported by anyone outside Iran), but now things might possibly be different. A young woman is killed by fanatical police brutality for showing a bit of her hair, and this has been the current trigger that set things off. Previously, other atrocities occurred by this woman was the tipping point...finally. They are chanting "death to the ayatollah", tearing down statues in his home town and pulling down pictures of him, burning their abayas in protest. This time it may actually achieve something positive. I hope. I was working in Iran in 1977-79 and was there for the revolution that threw out the Shah. That also erupted rather suddenly, after a time of whispering and rumors about what might happen. It was a weird time and educational to observe first hand.
Great example! Of course, this kind of thing doesn't always have a happy ending. The slave revolts that ejected the French from what became Haiti were a lovely rejection of tyranny, but the revolutionaries quickly became tyrants themselves.
I think the frustration many of us have trying to reason with the crowd shouting out "fascist"& "neo-nazi" is they are all social media educated. They do not have an actual education nor the depth to reason with. All they have is a talking point and a loud platform. It is literally the pot calling the kettle black. But if we tell them that - we are racist bc we said black or kettle or something. The divide in the country is widening and soon (it is here) it will be home schooled vs. Government indoctrination schooling. One will be able to critically think and the other will just be able to regurgitate the next talking point. Gato keep teaching!! We need an El Gato kids addition (TM).
The best part of the current left is their sheer incompetence at what they do. Each of them is such a bumbling fool that sometimes it feels like the right actively encourages them to get on a platform so they can open their mouths and confirm their stupidity to the world.
Yet there are apparently huge numbers of people who increasingly look to the state to run their lives for them. Social welfare and state handouts have become a way of life for far too many and the state creates each crisis to drive even more citizens into dependency, psychologically and financially.
With high dependency comes enslavement and relinquishing of freedoms as the state imposes limits and restrictions with no real accountability. eg net zero, online harms bill etc etc.
The reason they do this is that a society that rewards excellence and hard work scares them. It scares them because they are average (or worse) and lazy. So they prefer chains and a known outcome (however mediocre) to self-determination.
Self-determination is for competent and hard-working people. Racists, basically 😉
Absolutely. They hate successful people and hate self-made successful people even more. They live miserable lives with no purpose and they would rather see us all brought down to their level than put in the work to improve their own lives.
Communism and fascism are competing forms of socialism. The former has direct government control of the means of production. The latter has government control of those who own the means of production. Communists and fascists do not like each other. Those who call themselves 'Antifa' are communists.
Great essay. Isn't it funny how reality makes so much sense once someone explains it clearly?
On the "history rhyming" bit ... There's a theory that society predictably swings between extremes of individualism ("Me") and collectivism ("We"). According to this theory, we're at the halfway point of the 40-year "We" cycle, which is when the ideals of connection and togetherness all start to go terribly wrong, devolving into oppression and witch-hunts.
Interesting question. According to the authors, it has not accelerated. They went back 3,000 years and found the 40-year cycle remained consistent. The book was written in 2012 with the intention of warning people about 2023, and it seems to have failed because their predictions came true.
If the new upcoming female prime minister were from the centre or even better, a leftie or greenie then MSM would be full of bedtime cute stories how this new woke princess is such a sophisticated and educated pioneer for women's rights globally. Supposedly a real fountain of wisdom and virtues with studio quality and airbrushed posing photos.
Now it is nothing like, they choose the worst photo they can find and then titles like "Grandkid of Mussolini", "Democracy is broken in Italy", "Dangerous roads ahead for Italy". HA HA HA!
It looks like we have a long way down to go yet. Ursula is talking about just now beginning to use the tools she has to make people suffer to get what she wants. Power mad fools like her are in place everywhere and you ain't seen nothing yet. All of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao's children are out there playing their licks. They will wield their power for destruction to get their kicks. (Apologies to Bob Seger.) The results will be the same but on a world wide scale, because there's no place to run and no 1940s America to come save us.
Articles like this will be essential for the rebuilding of civilization, but it all has to come crashing down first. Power will not be given up willingly. TINVOWOOT. It can either be wrested away by force or withered away by collapse. There is no force capable of wresting power away because the people are too divided.
(And also to BTO...) You just ain't seen nothing yet... fan of both since long before 'Rock And Roll Never Forgets.' (Interestingly, R&R Never Forgets only reached #41 on the US Billboard charts.)
We need to realize that people like Ursula are going crazy because they know that their grip on power is ephemeral and elusive. It depends on people believing that they are in power. As soon as that illusion is dispelled, there is nothing between them and the barbarian horde but a flimsy curtain. And the more they flail around without obvious effect, the sooner the illusion fades.
'Pay no attention to that little man behind the curtain...'
It is only a matter of time until the EU/ECB/WEF falls. Then the question becomes, what next.
It has been fascinating to watch over the last decade as I have become steadily more extreme Right Wing™
Of course, my principles haven't changed much at all. But (classical) libertarian views on things like freedom of speech, individual responsibility, and even freedom itself are seen as being "far-right" positions these days.
But, as many have pointed out, the battleground isn't really left vs right, it's about authoritarianism vs individual freedoms. There has been a very successful, and long-running, propaganda campaign to equate 'right wing', of even the slightest hue, as being somehow immoral.
You vill have nothing, even your own views. And you vill eat ze bugs.
I agree. The conflict is not left vs. right so much as it is authoritarianism vs libertarianism. As Fukuyama or someone like that once observed, the DEGREE of government is far more important than the KIND of government.
From Ronald Reagan's 1964 speech "A Time for Choosing":
"You and I are told increasingly we have to choose between a left or right. Well I'd like to suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There's only an up or down: [up] man's old -- old-aged dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. And regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course."
https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ronaldreaganatimeforchoosing.htm
What a brilliant observation by him, way back then. Giorgia Meloni is apparently a great admirer of both Reagan and Trump, she mentions both of them in her 2020 NatCom speech, which I have written about here. I notice that many of the MSM news articles about her win make a point of coupling her name with Mussolini in their headlines. How utterly predictable. They're all shitting their pants, and I'm enjoying every minute of it.
Listening to her speech - ok I don’t speak or understand Italian so I read the English subtitles 😏
I thought “SHE SOUNDS JUST LIKE TRUMP” -
MAKE ITALY Italian Again
Make Italy GREAT AGAIN ! FOR ITALIAN CITIZENS
& drop all that woke & great reset globalist 💩
I’m paraphrasing her basic points but- if you watched her speech & read what she said... that is -in essence- what she said
make Italy great for Italians AGAIN- “Italy First” would be an excellent title for her Administration’s policies
Because her administration’s policies are going to focus on representing the needs of italian citizens FIRST
OVER THE LUST OF Globalist Filth to ‘fundamentally transform’ Italy
into a place NOT ITALIAN & actually hostile to the italian people
Which is what the globalist filth have done to Canada with Trudeau’s admin ‘Canada Last Policies’ & what
the Globalists Filth have done to Germany with Angela Merkle’s admin ‘Germany Last Policies’ & what
the Globalist Filth have done to U.S. with Obama & Biden’s ‘America Last Policies’ & what
the Flobalist Filth have done to =EVERY PREVIOUSLY FREE COUNTRY ON THE PLANET with their great reset
DESTROY the Old World Order policies.
I Am betting that IF the globalists controlling ALL THE POWER IN ALL THE PREVIOUSLY FREE COUNTRIES don’t assassinate her?
They will do what they did to trump: THEY WILL ASSASSINATE HER CHARACTER
Just like they did to djt- false accusations, false allegations 24/7/365
the mountains of empirical FACTS IN EVIDENCE PROVE all those crimes f which DJT was falsely accused
were actually committed by those woke, minion bootlickers owned & operated by THE GLOBALIST FILTH
They will destroy her politically, socially & in every other way by using their choke hold on their media marionettes
They will attack her parents her kids her husband her colleagues her finances & never stop lying about her
JUST LIKE THEY DID to Trump.
Will the Italian citizens fall for the obvious & outrageous media lies?
JUST LIKE MY FELLOW AMERICANS did?
the bootlicking media crucified trump for having the audacity to stand up to the Globalist Filth & their agenda to destroy u.s...
Will the Italian citizens be as belligerently ignorant?
I think that the pendulum is swinging back. 'We the People' have awakened to their tricks. And while they have indeed built a massive operation, including 'the greatest election fraud system ever invented,' pretty much all governments derive their power from the consent, or at least tolerance, of the governed.
So it starts with elections, and if that doesn't work (think fraud), then something else will come along. We're in the middle of that right now, it's hard to see on the surface but there are rumblings from below. Pre-shocks, as it were.
It's pretty obvious that Schwab has told all his minions 'do not give an inch' -- look at Trudope in Canada for instance -- and we will hang on and prevail. But that is also the nature of 'the last stand' -- might as well fight to the death, because we die if we don't fight.
They will keep trying to intimidate us, but like 'the great and powerful Oz,' once people figure out that they are all just 'that little man behind the curtain,' it's all over for them.
I believe you. I too feel the change in the wind. And I cleave to Gandhi's words - "When I despair, I remember that all through history, the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Always. Think of it - always."
You know, I don't think they will. I think they have been so driven down that they have chosen her and her party to pull Italy up out of the pit it is in. Her opposition has made some ominous threats ("we have tools") so she will be on her guard. And yes, I fear she'll be in constant danger. But the Italians have a sense of identity and apparent unity that we Americans seem to have lost. I watched a very good Tucker Carlson episode yesterday where he spoke of her and her win. I recommend it. As usual, he nails it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VzT4n27AC8
Haha! Just you watch, there's gonna be a shortage of "depends" just like baby formula. But I'm sure Joe's got a secret warehouse full of them. 😉
I think by now they own the company.
Lol!
I was going to reference this speech to reject the left/right paradigm and then I saw you posted it.
Greatest political speech of at least the last century in my opinion.
Great minds.
Woe! Slow down there, Mussolini! Responsibility and freedom?! What kind of fascism are you talking about here? Next you will say something about individuality and self-determination.
For the dullards out there, this is an example of sarcasm... On the other hand, another truth about the woke is that eventually, you can't tell the difference between "their truth" and sarcasm; so it's always best to state it up front these days. 😂
Where would be the fun in that?
🤣😂😅😂🤣
"But, as many have pointed out, the battleground isn't really left vs right, it's about authoritarianism vs individual freedoms.
Which is why labels like "left", "right", "conservative", and "progressive" really do not apply.
"There has been a very successful, and long-running, propaganda campaign to equate 'right wing', of even the slightest hue, as being somehow immoral."
It's been amazing to watch how announcing one's pronouns, masks, and submitting to multiple rounds of shots became part of the anti-Trump regalia and how "conservative" became equated with "MAGA" which became associated with "anti-vax" (which was a broad umbrella for all government-imposed pandemic response) and then "pro-Putin" (rather than simply those who may have adopted a more nuanced view of the Ukraine situation than the one given by Kamala Harris).
The theme that resonates is the Steeler's Wheel song "Stuck In The Middle With You" which talks about clowns on the left and jokers on the right. The people who are in office, the people who are attracted to politics, are all part of this, with a few exceptions. I'd almost be willing to vote for a pet rock in office if it had painted on it "I will be less government."
I think about that song frequently. It is madness: clowns to the left jokers to the right; thank God I am stuck in the middle with all of you.
Wasn't there some town in the US that voted in a Golden Retriever as Mayor? Sounded like at least the dog would have the traits of loyalty, work ethic, gratitude, and a positive attitude!
If we could get dogs, cats, parrots, fish, and other pets on the ticket, that would be a clear message. The reason we vote animals into office is there are even some things animal's won't do. They may crap up the place, but at least there not driving this country further into the ground.
Correct, Biden, I mean his handlers did that already in less than a year and still Winning!!
Rabbit Hash, KY
Thank you!
Which really exists! And now rivals my old favorite - Toad Suck, AR - as my favorite place name.
Bible states God made man in his image. Wait a minute. Write “GOD” on a piece of paper and then go look at it in the mirror. No wonder they voted in the golden retriever.
The dog is clearly a conservative. At one point I would have said Republican, but we all know how incorrect that would be these days.
Idyllwild, CA
There's a town near me called Rabbit Hash that has only ever had canine mayors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_Hash,_Kentucky
And they're undoubtedly better for it!
These things were all true longer than most of you realize.
Amen. I went from being 'center left' to 'wow how did I wind up here'
In 2020 (before the pandemic - covid cancelled it) I had an invite to a WEF event and was so proud of myself for being considered. Now I would go to conduct opposition research. I still struggle to accept how much the world has changed.
Same here, lifelong Dem from a family of Yellow Dog Democrats. Then about 12 years ago I "went down the rabbit hole" researching climate change (global warming back then). That was it. I was red pilled. And lost family and friends, my tribe, really. That's okay, I have a new one. Just sorry I can never have an authentic relationship with my family. One positive comment about DJT and they'd strike my name from the family bible - if we had one. It takes some courage to do this - we have liberal friends who now shun us because they became too frightened of the abyss that yawned before them, just chatting about politics with us. Change is not always easy.
My husband and I lost our tribe when we chose not to get the covid “vaccine.” We now hang out with normal humans (the parents of our child’s friends). I’m still struggling to figure out how to “pivot” my online business. I have been immersed in the “radical left” since 2002. I guess one difference was that our political activity never became who we are, at least not in our own eyes. It’s scary how dogmatic my ex-tribe became. SCARY. I have always boasted an acute ability to think critically as well as to distrust everyone. Might be something to do with growing up in Mexico…..
I know exactly what you mean by "scary". We are not our politics, or shouldn't be. There was a time when you could have friends who were all over the political spectrum, and cocktail or dinner parties would be very stimulating, as ideas were exchanged, hopefully respectfully. "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it", was the Liberal's credo back in the day. No longer. We are now so divided, I wonder if there can be any way back to "E pluribus, unum". Or is that gone from us forever, is our national motto now a farce?
I hope to move to Mexico for my retirement, there is much there that appeals to me.
We always kept inviting our friends and family with different politics to our garden parties. Everyone enjoyed stimulating conversations. Then everyone stopped talking to us. Our republican and conservative friends did continue to talk to us even though they thought we were wrong by not getting vaxxed. Our liberal family would on ocasion talk to us via Zoom. All our radical left political activists friends and comrades are gone from our lives. Also my clients who belong to the same kind of people. I have ALWAYS been skeptical about EVERYTHING, science included, so it was shocking for me to watch the fervor of the faith that n the vaccine early on by otherwise incredibly intelligent people. During one conversation my activist friend agreed that big pharma is evil, government is evil, media is evil…. He had no argument left except “but it is a vaccine.” Those we’re his final words. As if vaccines were absolutely good always. I guess this was the best marketing campaign in the history of humanity. I continue to be shocked….
I never realized before covid how many people were afraid of something as natural, normal and inevitable as death. That's how they drew people in - via fear. Probably the strongest of fears. If we live our lives fully, we should be able to face death at any moment, without fear. That is what I believe, and what I strive for.
I'm very sorry you've lost relationships because of your political views. I'm lucky; I'm an accidental conservative (didn't even realize I was one until later in life) and almost all my friends are liberals. As are some of my in-laws. We have an unspoken understanding; we don't talk politics. Which has enabled us to have a relationship.
I have managed to do that with just a couple of liberal friends. My problem is I live in the deepest blue part of deep blue Northern California, and I work amongst old hippies and young pot growers, sooo...90+ percent of them are virulently far left. The only relationships I can have with them are very shallow - we can't even talk about the weather and our health (see "Pygmalion"). If they know who I am, what I believe, the disapproval radiates from them and they literally don't want to be seen being friendly with me. Small town pettiness. This has really gotten worse since covid. I became pretty much a pariah for my antivax stance. I have some conservative friends here but they are all overworked ranchers with no time to do more than say howdy, that rain sure helped the hay, dinnit? If "friends" don't know my beliefs, it feels fraudulent, and I can scarcely be bothered with inauthentic relationships. They seem pretty superficial. Which is why I keep myself to myself, and also find myself here on this site so often. I thank God for you folks, you're keeping me sane.
Right there with ya. The masking has increased with time!!?? Seems it will not end. It’s a daily zen practice (which I fail often) to not scowl at how it’s a signal of their utter ignorance not virtue. I’ve never been a superficial person so faking it is not something I can muster for long. So I’ve been improving my green thumb and love my flourishing plant friends and even taken up learning some culinary skills like fermenting and other such things. I miss ‘people’ but I’d rather skip a gathering of platitude makers.
You sound like a soul sister/brother. Plants, animals and cooking - pretty much my world these days. I have always been a solitary person, so I don't miss company that much. My man is the same, and we live parallel lives, together but also giving one another a huge amount of space. We don't share a roof but live side by side - the Zulu model. Works for us. I cannot imagine a life without my solitude. And yet, I miss having someone (besides him) with whom I can reveal my deepest thoughts. I had two women friends with whom I was that close, but both have died in the past ten years. My family and I are almost entirely estranged, my sisters would condemn my politics and beliefs as crazy and evil. I haven't been open with them, and this too is a source of pain for me. I see that I demand authenticity and truth, but I'm too cowardly to bring it forth myself. Wish sometimes I wasn't so given to self-examination, Dr. Johnson be damned!
I have a hope that moving out of California will improve my chances of having some friends in my life with whom I don't have to guard my words. We shall see.
Sounds like Mendocino. I felt as if I had to duct tape my mouth when I lived there. Now i live in the Florida Free state. Hurricanes…oh well.
Mendo County. I'd happily face hurricanes to live in Florida but sig oth cannot take humidity. So, we're looking into Mexico, hopefully before the idiot pedophile occupying the WH along with his gang of degenerates start WWIII. Where are you currently? Please say high ground.
Bash, congrats for changing your mind. Many have not done that; consider yourself... one of the enlightened ones. :)
I was “radical left” 😂
I feel the same way. My Grandfather called me a liberal in the 80’s. My ideals have not changed but there is no way in Hell I am even close to a liberal these days.
Liberal used to mean open-minded and support for the rights of the individual above all else. It has been perverted to mean left wing authoritarian. Orwell warned us about the dangers of perversion of language.
If JFK were alive today he'd be considered strongly conservative.
In theory, virtually every historical figure would be.
Except that many of them indulged the ideological seeds of today's depravity, only that they were restrained by the world around them. It's when their ideology became more powerful that we got where we are now, though many who share the ideology recoil at "going too far".
Then it would appear that the world needs to exercise more restraint upon them, doesn't it? Familiarity breeds not only contempt, but license.
Capital L liberalism is what's dying, it's the product of the enlightenment and Western culture. The fact that the American left refers to themselves as liberals is now ironic
It's collectivism (left) vs individualism (right). Each has a healthy and dark side. It we want to advance philosophical coherence and perhaps avoid disaster, we should resist the ideological gratification of framing this as the dark side of collectivism vs the healthy side of individualism. They could do the same, like comparing a rugby team (collectivism) to a 16 year old boy "enjoying" his freedom by spending his days alone in a binge of virtual reality and porn (dark individualism).
Individualism does not preclude teamwork. Start with free individuals who can join the rugby team or not. Some will choose to, while others do their own thing.
For the record, I'm not suggesting anyone on these boards has a problem with healthy, voluntary collectivism. Our battle is clearly against dark (universal) collectivism, the rise of which has shocked and unsettled all of us.
There is no voluntary collectivism. Collectivism is not cooperation; it is viewing people not as individuals but as parts of a collective.
Seize power or be ruled by at best by your lessers, or at worst: People who hate and will kill you and enslave your children.
Never back an enemy into a corner unless you want to know how hard they really can fight.
Churchill was a traitorous drunk, but I agree with him: "I like a man who grins when he fights".
A justifiable impulse that never ends well.
Prepare to be ruled.
Nope.
I agree. Prepare to fight to the death for your freedom. To which I say, "What's new? Bring it."
Glad to see you are fit to rule, then. Because this is one of the few true binary choices in our current consensus reality.
Yes, I am fit to rule my 20 acres off-grid, well, orchard, blah blah blah, thanks.
But I disagree with you regardi ng 'binary choices'. If you have reduced this theatre to 'either or' you have already proven your subservience.
Well, to your next-to-the-last sentence--yes, certain right-wing views that claim to uphold morality are indeed immoral.
That's the problem.
I myself am bemused daily if not hourly at how so many of my own feelings now and changes in convictions are now likely demonizable as "right-wing." Because I have no political home at all, and many of the people raging about the actual real demonstrable losses of freedom are also trying their damnedest to remove even more liberties too.
"certain right-wing views that claim to uphold morality are indeed immoral."
Such as?
Such as restricting abortion before the point of viability.
...And this is universally held by all "right wingers" (also in the case of rape or incest?) It's also morally unambiguous that it's right and good and just to kill a gestating child in the womb? No "left-wingers" hold this "right-wing" position?
Weak sauce, sister.
Anything else?
I ain't your sister.
Yes, indeed, people who work for what they want tend to shy away from collectivist beliefs. What a fucking shocker.
Your haircut apparently also betrays "far right" leanings.
Only men? : )
Women turning right-wing is a knock-on effect of men actually being... Men. ; )
And it's been noted that we are (in general) better-looking than our counterparts on the left. Something to do with discipline and self-respect, perhaps.
yes! discipline, self-respect, character, concern for others, and the desire NOT to live satisfying only your base animal instinctual drives like leftist humanists.
The products of gym work cannot be redistributed, ergo they are appreciated in ways that redistributed wealth never can be.
Great post, as usual, el Gato. But I especially wanted to thank you for pointing out that fascism is a far LEFT ideology. It drives me nuts that 99 percent of people in general, and every single imbecilic media talking head, equates fascism with conservatism run amok, somehow.
I am thinking more and more that LEFT/RIGHT political thinking lost most of its meaning not too many years after those French deputies (parliamentarians) arrived and arranged themselves on either the right or left hand side of the hall 230 or so years ago.
There is freedom and there is tyranny - period. Take your pick; draw your battle lines. Italian voters did that yesterday. We can only hope we have that choice two years from now - that may be our last chance.
Your choices this November are more important than two years from now.
There is also a people-sponsored movement calling for a Convention of States (Article 5) which can be used to cut off power to the Federal government. While I am in no way naive enough to think this will solve all our problems, it does forward policies (term limits, balanced budgets, etc) that will be enforced on either side of the aisle, and (if passed) would help limit the power of the Federal government.
I think it's worth supporting (or minimally checking out for you to make up your own mind) - as I see few options on the table at the moment. This is one of the few things I've stumbled upon that might impact the rise in authoritarianism.
Thanks for considering this.
I say why not? It will raise awareness of our rights as the people and if successful, could make a big dent in the power of the federal government.
well said.
Ryan, how are you doing? Is Ian a direct threat or are you just expecting some rain and wind. Thinking of you and yours. Uh, um, stay safe!
Oh Keahi. You're sweet. IThx for checking. We're all good. At the moment it looks like a direct hit. But by landfall it's supposed to be a Cat2. I'm OK with that. So we're going to "ride" it out. My biggest concern is not having electricity for an extended amount of time. I can get grumpy without a/c...especially in FL.
Yeah, I bet. We thought of moving there but the Sig Oth cannot taken humidity. Crossing my fingers for you all and trusting that your wonderful governor will put things right for you in record time. Otherwise...I hear Iceland is lovely this time of year. Meanwhile, you've got some booze laid in, you're good to go. Speaking of laying in - we just found out about the threat of a national (world-wide?) beer shortage. The S.O. is headed to Safeway to see if he can get (30) 30-packs of Coors. I've told him repeatedly that we should brew our own. Maybe he'll do it now.
Left - they lie to your ears from the left
Right - they lie to your ears from the right
A suggestion to everyone who have family members in college or somewhat recently out of college:
Ask them their opinions and then let them explain their opinion. I'm not advocating arguing with them, but sincerely asking them to explain their ideas, and then presenting them with alternate ideas.
I have a smart stepson who was somewhat indoctrinated; no where near woke, but still on the left. We've had many discussions, and in less than a year, he has dramatically changed many of his opinions. Not because I told him his opinions were wrong, but because he had never actually critically examined them before or had to defend them logically. Also... Joe Rogan was a great help.
Yes. I am glad that some people at least are getting this now.
Somehow the extreme version of individualism, limited and decentralized government, mimimal regulation, minimal taxes, and freedom of expression is collectivism, centralized totalitarian government, maximum regulation, maximum taxes, and complete censorship and limitation of the content of speech. Somehow the extreme right is functionally identical to the extreme left, with a few words changed.
The Nazis had their scapegoats in the Jews, while the Communists had the bourgeoisie. In the US, where the well-defined class structure (that was supposed to define good and bad guys in Marxist lore) didn't really exist, so they changed it to "oppressed" and "oppressors," which is kind of laughable in that they are, of course, the oppressors.
The proponents of the "fascism is right wing" idea try to posit the idea that the spectrum of political views is really a horseshoe, so the extremes are actually quite close to one another. The more logical idea is that if you have to make some silly model where a one-dimensional spectrum gains a second dimension just to make it seem plausible, your premises are incorrect.
"The proponents of the "fascism is right wing" idea try to posit the idea that the spectrum of political views is really a horseshoe, so the extremes are actually quite close to one another. The more logical idea is that if you have to make some silly model where a one-dimensional spectrum gains a second dimension just to make it seem plausible, your premises are incorrect.:
I made this argument in a college Poli Sci class only to be shot down by my bewildered professor who was deeply invested in the horseshoe concept. In my mind, the spectrum is more like a circle where, as you put it, the extremes are quite close to one another. What truly differentiates Pol Pot and Khmers Rouges from Mao, Kim Il Sung, Mussolini, Hitler. Pinochet, and Stalin?
"Bidenism" is certainly taking on similar characteristics. As gato so eloquently stated, Bidenism can also be characterized as "technocratic control by the few to dominate businesses and economies and societies and inculcate them into doing what they were told 'for the collective good' and accepting the top down all-encompassing dictates of a ruling class whose precepts may be neither denied nor resisted generally referred to as totalitarianism."
You needed to put single quotes around "for the collective good." You threw me for a loop.
Corrected.
Thanks, something more to mull over
It's all just labels with no meaning
well it is to a degree; because otherwise, without labels, they wouldn't have a "jar" to shake us in. Very few would be willing to enter the jar of agitation if they did not view labeling others as the "enemy".
Just another take.
It's true but surprising with how little meaning these labels seem to have that people can still get worked up over them. Antivaxxers are anybody who didn't get the latest booster shots, Nazis are really bad white supremacist MAGA extremists except we give them a bunch of money in Ukraine, on and on it goes. It's so contradictory it's hard to keep up..
Yeah. Orwell was right. Labels are important, but who gets to define the labels is more important. The faster the labels change, the busier the folks at the Ministry of Truth; but the principle itself never changes.
"The Jar Of Agitation" will be added to future rants and screeds. Thank you for the addition. Carry on.
It's a European idea that fascism is right wing. In the US, it used to be that right wing equated with anarchy and no government at all. It seems that the schools and media have not taught the proper history of the US.
"99 percent (sic) of people..." and talking heads equate fascism with conservatism bc it's easier to say than totalitarianism.
Next time someone equates fascism with conservatism, just ask for an example, usually you'll get some incoherent rant with no basis or silence 😉. Works for me!
That’s right,LP. If you Google ‘Nazi’, the definition that comes up is:
Nazi party is the byname of the National Socialist German Workers’ party (Nationalsozialische Deutssch Arbiterparti), “the political party of the mass movement known as National Socialism”.
Agreed! I hadn’t thought in those terms.
The other one that is a complete LIE is the good 'ol "the Democrats and Republicans switched platforms" - magically after the Civil Rights movement. Da fuq ? I always ask them. "OK, if they truly switched in the late 1960's - name me 5 that changed teams ?" You'll get a blank stare and the conversation will end.
AMEN!!!
I have been seeing essays/papers proclaiming that fascism is and always has been defined as the result of right-wing conservative ideology.
I don’t think people should trust any politician. All politicians seem to be technocrats using the culture war to gain power. When will a politician come along who says the government doesn’t have the power to impose that solution but here are some possible suggestions based on my experience. The only politician I might trust is one who doesn’t have a Twitter account.
Because people have been conditioned to trust the government.
This is a cycle that I am trying to break with several of my friends. Covid is an opportunity to do so.
Just as they had been trained to trust doctors. It is a golden opportunity but I am getting worn out
Agree. It's frustrating. Take care of yourself first imo.
Totally!!
We need to SIT on them!
Civics and public policy must be EVERYONE'S #1 interest of "hobby" if we are ever to take our Countries back.
Listen to Whitney Webb, Unlimited Hangout.
Read "One Nation Under Blackmail."
It will all start to make sense.
Excellent interview with Ms Webb on TNT Radio on Sept 21/22. You can catch it on "Listen Back": https://tntradio.live/shows/jerm-warfare-with-jeremy-nell/
Reading now!
"The only politician I might trust is one who doesn’t have a Twitter account."
But that politician is one most people (including you) have never heard of, and will never know either to trust or to vote for. Catch 22. The system triumphs again.
There are a few. Ron Paul, Thomas Massie, Justin Amash, Rand Paul come to mind as those who oppose tyranny and uphold individual rights.
Here, here
"i certainly do not agree with all of meloni’s policies or principles, but i can also certainly see how she has come to prominence"
So can I. She joined the Aspen Institute in 2021 (Gates Foundation funded) and was skilfully managed into place.
Geee, is there enyone in the show who is not plugged in these lists of names? I know is a small world, but it seams too small....
ugh... can't we feel happy just for one day...
she is the friend of orban. believe me they push the same agenda but with different slogans.
That is as it always is. We must BEWARE!
I didn't know she was a member of the aspen institute. They're pretty keen on digitalisation, aren't they? If I remember well she was pushing for the digital ID recently. I think the reason she can come out against the green pass is perhaps she knows it'll be superceded soon.
They are for everything is in agenda 2030.
“Meloni has described Moscow’s invasion as an “unacceptable large scale act of war by Putin’s Russia against Ukraine” and advocates sending weapons to the government in Kyiv.” Yep, another NATO supporter cleverly using the divide caused by a cultural war to advance A nuclear one.
Apparently, Ursula didn't get the memo.
It's all theater.
Many if not all actors in the political spectrum are controlled.
That way the puppet masters leave nothing to chance and prevent the people thinking and actually acting out the removal of all politicians, removal of all alphabet agencies and ministries in all countries and implementing the necessary actions to ensure the rule of the people and not the "elites".
That CBS "news" clip was amazing. I have almost as much contempt for reporters who've discarded ethics and objectivity as I do for the people at the helm of this move towards totalitarianism. Once (if?) this insanity breaks, I would make it mandatory that only thrice-divorced, chain-smoking, extraordinarily cynical 55+ yo men be reporters.
Lol,agree!
Very interesting! I voted to leave the EU precisely because of Brussels and the unaccountable people like Ursula!
Not that it's made much difference to things in the UK though.
Depressingly, I really doubt the People of the western democracies will be doing any rising up in the near future. Most people really just don't care. Don't care who's in charge. Don't care who's watching them. Don't care what they're told to do. So long as they have a bit of money on the app/in the bank/in the wallet, the holiday to somewhere sunny, the takeaways, the TV reality. That'll do. They take their medicine, do what's required, don't really give it much thought. By the time they realise, it will be too late and they will sigh and go back to eating pizza whilst watching some reality crap on TV.
Don't despair. In political science, there's a theory that revolutions always come as a surprise because of "preference falsification." Essentially, the more repressive the regime, the more people hide their dissatisfaction. This means that nobody knows how close anyone else is to their "revolutionary threshold." Often it takes just one tipping point to start what's called a "revolutionary cascade," where previously complacent people suddenly pour into the streets en masse with torches and pitchforks.
Yes, look at what is happening in Iran right now. They have been repressed by a mullocracy since 1979. There have been a few whimpers of an uprising here and there over the years (never supported by anyone outside Iran), but now things might possibly be different. A young woman is killed by fanatical police brutality for showing a bit of her hair, and this has been the current trigger that set things off. Previously, other atrocities occurred by this woman was the tipping point...finally. They are chanting "death to the ayatollah", tearing down statues in his home town and pulling down pictures of him, burning their abayas in protest. This time it may actually achieve something positive. I hope. I was working in Iran in 1977-79 and was there for the revolution that threw out the Shah. That also erupted rather suddenly, after a time of whispering and rumors about what might happen. It was a weird time and educational to observe first hand.
Great example! Of course, this kind of thing doesn't always have a happy ending. The slave revolts that ejected the French from what became Haiti were a lovely rejection of tyranny, but the revolutionaries quickly became tyrants themselves.
...and mRNA in their bloodstream.
I coulda written this!
I think the frustration many of us have trying to reason with the crowd shouting out "fascist"& "neo-nazi" is they are all social media educated. They do not have an actual education nor the depth to reason with. All they have is a talking point and a loud platform. It is literally the pot calling the kettle black. But if we tell them that - we are racist bc we said black or kettle or something. The divide in the country is widening and soon (it is here) it will be home schooled vs. Government indoctrination schooling. One will be able to critically think and the other will just be able to regurgitate the next talking point. Gato keep teaching!! We need an El Gato kids addition (TM).
The best part of the current left is their sheer incompetence at what they do. Each of them is such a bumbling fool that sometimes it feels like the right actively encourages them to get on a platform so they can open their mouths and confirm their stupidity to the world.
It always seems like they are living in a bubble of ideology, and can't perceive anything outside that bubble. Stupid is as stupid does, as Gump said.
cant they get some different people for a change ... ONLY nazis or kids of nazis ??? nobody else there???
Not in Germany.
dont know about that.
Same way Klaus Schwab's father ran a factory in Ravensburg using slave labor for the war effort.
these are pawns
"That's why the pawns go first."
- Magneto
(After his advance troops get mowed down)
Yet there are apparently huge numbers of people who increasingly look to the state to run their lives for them. Social welfare and state handouts have become a way of life for far too many and the state creates each crisis to drive even more citizens into dependency, psychologically and financially.
With high dependency comes enslavement and relinquishing of freedoms as the state imposes limits and restrictions with no real accountability. eg net zero, online harms bill etc etc.
I think it can be boiled down to a "loss of purpose". The modern day Left has perfected this; people willingly giving up purpose for chains.
The reason they do this is that a society that rewards excellence and hard work scares them. It scares them because they are average (or worse) and lazy. So they prefer chains and a known outcome (however mediocre) to self-determination.
Self-determination is for competent and hard-working people. Racists, basically 😉
Absolutely. They hate successful people and hate self-made successful people even more. They live miserable lives with no purpose and they would rather see us all brought down to their level than put in the work to improve their own lives.
Never truer words
‘... look to the state to run their lives for them.’
If I may correct a typo in that... ‘... look to the state to ruin their lives for them.’
Communism and fascism are competing forms of socialism. The former has direct government control of the means of production. The latter has government control of those who own the means of production. Communists and fascists do not like each other. Those who call themselves 'Antifa' are communists.
I like to say that the fascists are simply communists who are smart enough to realize they don't know shit about actually running the economy.
Great essay. Isn't it funny how reality makes so much sense once someone explains it clearly?
On the "history rhyming" bit ... There's a theory that society predictably swings between extremes of individualism ("Me") and collectivism ("We"). According to this theory, we're at the halfway point of the 40-year "We" cycle, which is when the ideals of connection and togetherness all start to go terribly wrong, devolving into oppression and witch-hunts.
https://dystopianliving.substack.com/p/pendulum-explains-why-society-predictably
I wonder if the technological aspect of our society has accelerated the process.
Here. Exactly!
Interesting question. According to the authors, it has not accelerated. They went back 3,000 years and found the 40-year cycle remained consistent. The book was written in 2012 with the intention of warning people about 2023, and it seems to have failed because their predictions came true.
Right / Left is utterly meaningless and childish tribalism. There are no principles or standards, just endless flipfloping and name calling.
Is it a coincidence that the popular terminology used to describe is the most basic non-descript polarity? Leave the left / right delusion behind.
If the new upcoming female prime minister were from the centre or even better, a leftie or greenie then MSM would be full of bedtime cute stories how this new woke princess is such a sophisticated and educated pioneer for women's rights globally. Supposedly a real fountain of wisdom and virtues with studio quality and airbrushed posing photos.
Now it is nothing like, they choose the worst photo they can find and then titles like "Grandkid of Mussolini", "Democracy is broken in Italy", "Dangerous roads ahead for Italy". HA HA HA!
It looks like we have a long way down to go yet. Ursula is talking about just now beginning to use the tools she has to make people suffer to get what she wants. Power mad fools like her are in place everywhere and you ain't seen nothing yet. All of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao's children are out there playing their licks. They will wield their power for destruction to get their kicks. (Apologies to Bob Seger.) The results will be the same but on a world wide scale, because there's no place to run and no 1940s America to come save us.
Articles like this will be essential for the rebuilding of civilization, but it all has to come crashing down first. Power will not be given up willingly. TINVOWOOT. It can either be wrested away by force or withered away by collapse. There is no force capable of wresting power away because the people are too divided.
(And also to BTO...) You just ain't seen nothing yet... fan of both since long before 'Rock And Roll Never Forgets.' (Interestingly, R&R Never Forgets only reached #41 on the US Billboard charts.)
We need to realize that people like Ursula are going crazy because they know that their grip on power is ephemeral and elusive. It depends on people believing that they are in power. As soon as that illusion is dispelled, there is nothing between them and the barbarian horde but a flimsy curtain. And the more they flail around without obvious effect, the sooner the illusion fades.
'Pay no attention to that little man behind the curtain...'
It is only a matter of time until the EU/ECB/WEF falls. Then the question becomes, what next.