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I live in Ontario and about a week after this inversion of vaxxed seeing Much higher cases per (at first absolute numbers for several weeks and then the final straw , per capita) govt have totally changed what data they now report. They won’t focus on cases anymore. They say it’s due to lack of testing capacity as cases explode .

They also mislead the public by reporting on news hospitalizations as vaxxed , partial , and unvaxxed but neglect a huge ‘vaccine unknown’ category which now makes up the majority in hospitals and plurality of those in ICU. The unknowns are presumably mostly vaccinated.

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The “unknown vaccination status” has always made me wonder. People’s vaccination records are tied to their provincial health card numbers, which people have to present before (or shortly after) being admitted to a hospital.

So, why can’t hospitals just find the vaccination status there? Or, is there a large cohort of the population that doesn’t have provincial health cards? If the latter, that’s a public health issue we haven’t heard much about.

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Excellent point/comment. 👏🏻

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You need your vax card to get into the grocery store, but not the hospital?

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The Health Canada definition of 'vaccine unknown' is that it is just precisely what vaccine that is unclear. That is a federal defition. eg see this link https://twitter.com/Jason09588663/status/1476945902426365958

I'm not 100% sure that is the same definition used in Ontario. I reach my conclusion just by assuming that 'unknowns' have a similar uptake as the rest of the population.

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I also live in Ontario. When I asked the provincial Ministry of Health what constituted “unknown status” I was told they couldn’t answer it and that I should go to my local public health. Went to local public health and she told me to go to Ministry of Health…told her they sent me to you, she laughed and she then said, “I guess some people just don’t want to share that info for there own personal reason, so they are marked unknown status”. I was not able to get a definitive answer by any stretch.

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Thanks for inquiring

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When you go to restaurant, can you report in as "unknown"?

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Would be nice but vaccine passports only. And as of today everything is on reduced access now even if you have a vaccine passport….because that worked so well.

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and the unvaxed includes those that are between 0-14 days after first jab

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Maybe First Nations. Do they have the same reporting/record keeping reqts?

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FN are like 3-5% of Ontarians. Impossible they would make up 30-50% in hospital

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Maybe part of the picture. But who knows what the unmerry pranksters up your way are getting up to.

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To note FN were able to get both doses before everyone else other than health care workers back in Jan/Feb 2020. It explains why Nunavut had to 3rd jab months before everyone else. It was like our Israel in a way.

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Well into negative be then, or they've been boosted?

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To be honest I’ve stopped watching mainstream news in Canada for months now. Things are depressing enough without getting mad by watching tv.

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Yes, Canadian Media, across the board, specialize in FEAR PORN. We only view it in tidbits, due to how ridiculous it is. And I despise Cat Lady Bonnie. She is a horribly incompetent, pretentious twat.

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Here in America I heard on the radio a couple nights ago that only UNvaxxed are being hospitalized w/ Covid. Such absurdities.

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Yep. When I visit my mom I see what normal people get on television. Literally 90% of network TV ads in her city are vaccine propaganda, and every MSM news channel and local radio ads repeat, over and over, "the hospitals are overwhelmingly filled with the unvaccinated."

I've lived away from the constant bombardment so long I forgot how relentless and omnipresent it is. I actually started feeling doubts.

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Speaking locally, all the "news" outlets in Tampa, FL only mention the case numbers and the critical need for more testing. There is no reason for testing given, just that it needs to increase. No death count, no hospitalization breakdown of vaxxed vs. unvaxxed, and no alternatives to getting the injection.

Let us never forget who is against us, our country and humanity.

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It's all propaganda, everywhere. I recently googled using iodine as a nasal spray and, beyond the few advocates, of course various fact-checkers and "reputable" medical sites will say stuff like "there is no evidence that it works" and if they're bold, that it might be harmful (I concede that iodine, peroxide, etc. to excess might be harmful, but really, at super-low doses? Personally, my daily use of both those intra-nasal is far less than one would use gargling or brushing teeth with peroxide, or putting iodine on a cut.) Without fail, of course, the article will always include the message that being fully vaccinated and boosted offers the best protection against Covid-19.

No mention, of course, of side effects, rapid drop of efficacy, etc.

It is, by turns, amusing and worrying the levels of absurdity that nearly all official institutions are spouting. I hope to live to see the idiocy collapse. If it doesn't, I fear that we may indeed be slipping into a totalitarian epoch.

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Actually the povidone iodine nose spray doesn't work and isn't good. If you peruse pubmed you'll see a couple studies on it. Didn't do anything over the control group covid-wise but it did cause temporary hyperthyroidism in the people who used it. Went away after they stopped.

One thing that does work and is even easier is to cover your head with a tea towel and breathe steam from your kettle. The study was done by some Italian doctors and is called "Thermal inactivation of SARS COVID-2 virus Are steam inhalations a potential treatment" . Who would have thought what Grandma told you to do for a cold would work with a meaner version of the cold. Do it every day and you won't have to worry about covid...or the flu for that matter.

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Hospitals are filling up with the jabbed who are now having various symptoms and illnesses from the vaccine damage. (Ex: Delaware) As with every other trick they have have pulled with this, the truth will seep out slowly, then all at once. I'm sure they know this and are busy crafting excuses right now. The formula seems to be have the CDC chick blurt out some truth and then all the flying monkeys follow up behind her like it was a fact that everyone knew all along. Then they slowly weave into the narrative that this new truth is still all the degenerate unvaxxed's fault.

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Duh, we never said vaccines provide sterilizing immunity

Duh, we never said masks work

Duh, we never said everyone is at equal and deadly risk

Typical GQP racist misogynist right wing science denier talking points.

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Professor Norman Fenton in the UK has been showing how they manipulate and change the data to suit their narrative

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Yes I’ve been listening to him

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I just heard the pollster Frank Luntz on a Fox show state emphatically that it's the unvaccinated are coming down with Omicron. Jeez...

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why would anyone trust a pollster (read: data manipulator) for truth on scientific data?

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out of curiosity, I've been hearing this too. What studies are there showing this is not the case?

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I am not sure but just saying from experience with my son and friend where the tests were negative for 3-4 days, they had enough symptoms but the test only showed positive after that time. My son had a fever and cold. My friend has cough and feeling tried and aching,

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I'd just like some hard data at this point.

We haven't been testing (at this point why bother if they'll quarantine us whether we test negative or not?), but I think the omicron is going through my family right now. Some of us are vaxxed (I got the J&J two months ago to keep my job, my mom bought got the Pfizer booster) some of us got covid beforehand but are not vaxxed (My husband and son, as well as brother whom we live with), and some of us never got covid or the jab.

I was the first to get it, just had a phlegmy throat (not even quite sore), a headache for two days, and some fatigue for a day. My kids probably got some sniffles, and my husband has a runny nose, headache, and fatigue. He has it harder than me, but it really doesn't seem serious and also seems to go away more quickly for us.

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I only have my own personal anecdata to share. "Omicron cold" caught up w my fam over Christmas. I had the least symptoms- I have had 0 shots but I had legit 3 weeks of presumed COVID Jan 2020 (no tests at the time).

1 other unvaxxed but COVID recovered individual also had omicron cold same time as me. It was a 2 day headache & scratchy throat & congestion.

The rest of our family is jabbed x3. They were all much sicker than us but the worst person was the most adamant pro-vaxxer of all. She is still sick going on Day 7 on the couch but her symptoms are of the typical flu. She tested negative on her first PCR but it might have been to early. She is going back tmw for another PCR.

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It's also hilarious how some pro-vaxxers REFUSE to get tested right now & insist they are just sick w the regular old flu.

If this was before the vax rollout, those same people would be the very first in line to get tested the minute the test center opened that morning.

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Just use common sense. "76.962% of all people in Ontario are fully vaccinated" = at least 77% of unknowns should be counted as vaxxed (probably more as in reality 95 out of 100 cases are among vaxxed, they just hide it with "clever" testing, formal definitions and pure lies).

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Twitter.com/golden_pup is actually the best source of Ontario data

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exactly what I wanted to say

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How do they count unvaxxed?

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Great observation - add to that the fact that in Ontario they only test at hospital vaxxed if they are symptomatic, whereas they text every unvaxxed that enters the doors. Further, the province has promised to separate data for hospitalizations based on those "with" covid versus those "because of" covid and somehow have not managed to pull that data together. As this blog post posits, whether that is because of cunning manipulation of data on all counts, or just bureaucratic laziness, who knows.

If it's true that unknowns are those whose vaccines are unknown, and the percentage of vaxxed/unvaxxed in that category reflect that of the general population rates, what would that do to analysis for OAS?

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Amy, sorry for late reply, I somehow missed your comment. At this point we can exclude laziness or incompetence. It woudn't be coordinated all over western world if it would be the case.

It is coordinated and deliberate so it has to have an aim. I recently found this article:

https://miriaf.co.uk/bombshell-new-study-covid-jabs-appear-to-expose-people-to-an-increased-mortality/

I was aware of prof. Fenton's study but failed to understand real importance of his findings. Article above helped me a lot.

As it happened I also recently wrote quite a long reply to one of MSM presstitutes. Guy loves conspiracy theories. Of course only those about ancient aliens and nazi bases on the Moon, you know the stupid ones. As for deadly virus with 99.5% survival rate and magic mrna experimental vaxx "curing it" not so much ;] I hammered this clown with logic and facts, not because I had any hope to change his mind but for lulz and to help those confused who are still reading his blog. It's in Polish and I am not going to translate it, Not only cause my English is fluent in reading and listening but far from it in writing :) Also cause it was quite long reply. Still just few quick facts:

1. Each and every day more and more young people have heart attacks, often fatal and other heart related problems also often fatal. Trend is global and it is really, really bad. For example young athletes are dying every day now. Not only they of course but players, especially footballers are easier to spot. All vaccinated, trend started after vaxxing started (so it isn't cvid).

2. MSM are "preparing ground" for huge increase in heart related incidents. (300 000 new cases per year in UK only. BTW word "cases" can be of course changed to "mildly lethal cases" later. I know it's stupid joke but we talking MSM so you never know)

Proof:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/post-pandemic-stress-disorder-heart-conditions-covid-london-physicians-b969436.html

3. Do you remember Canadian doctor Charles Hoffe and what he found last year?

https://www.newswars.com/shock-doctor-warns-that-majority-of-vaccinated-patients-could-have-permanent-heart-damage-some-may-die-within-three-years/

I am afraid doctor Charles Hoffe was right from the start. Pericarditis, Myocarditis, heart attacks and damaged lungs are not "rare" side effects of magic vaxxes but simply a result of microclotting. However IMO It is much more sinister. All mrna vaxxes were designed to cause micro clots (it is my hypothesis, dr. Hoffe only pointed out towards micro clots without any remark implying vaxx were designed to do so!) I am almost certain it wasnt a bug but "a feature". That is why they "confirmed" "very rare" and "very mild" cases of percardatis after vaxxing in one elixir and "very rare and mild" cases of clotting in other elixir.

Now, those micro clots most of the time do not kill immidietaly. Dr. Hoffe said it takes some time, up to few years. However it works much faster on young and very active people because of increased blood flow and heart rate during exercise/training/games/competitions. And all those "unvaxxed" dying "with" covid are nothing but a really good cover for what is really going on.

Full cover up on real number of vaxxed and unvaxxed dying and real cause of death (no post-mortem examination at all).

More and more vaxxed dying.

No sign pandemic is ending. 80/90/100% vaxxed and cases are even more common then before (Malta/Izrael/UK and so on). Covid is milder and milder but total excess deaths are higher and higher.

Young and very healthy vaxxed people "just dying" each and every day.

It is a genocide.

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I am Texan. I live free. No "reasonably" here. BTW about 5 days into covid and feeling pretty good. It was like a medium to strong cold. Took nothing for it. No vitamins, no IM, no Hydroxy, although 2 nights I did take some aspirin. 67 YO and in good health.. Just go live your life ignore the noise, besides doing so infuriates the other side like poking them in the eye.

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I need to add that actually I feel fine and if it hadn't turned cold I would be outside working the garden, trimming trees, etc.

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I am perfectly willing to believe that vax data is the result of a Simpson’s paradox. It might be due to the age distribution of the vaccinated, who is likely to get tested, and/or the fact that the vaxxed are rushing to get boosters and suppressing their immune systems. It doesn’t matter. A negative VE ends the justification for vaccine passports. The vaccinated are not less likely to have the virus.

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Initially we had a system that said unvaccinated need to get tested to enter. That didn't make sense because vaccinated transmit too. So we got a system that banned unvaccinated in order to protect them. That is considered discrimination and to stop that they will mandate everybody to get the shot.

So no matter what happens, it will get worse.

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But there is no justification for a claim of Simpson's paradox. They are comparing data from October with data from mid-December.

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All we can see in December is the all age data. It isn't broken down by age group. It may be that older people are more likely to be vaccinated while also more likely to test positive than younger people even while vaccinated. This could create the Simpson's paradox. We don't know because they haven't released the age stratified data.

Even if the entire negative VE is due to age or immune issues between the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups, it still shows that the vaccine passports are illogical. What would be more logical is to not allow old people or. people with preexisting conditions to enter public spaces.

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They were comparing apple with oranges. Without the age/vaxx stratified data for December and beyond, we have no idea. Vaxx passports are useless, and they give high-risk vaxxed a false sense of protection.

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It's like humanity is being given a global IQ test, and the masses are not as smart as they think.

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Thanks for this, as an Ontario resident. There doesn’t appear to be an epidemiologist in the province who is willing to say, “Hey, look at the numbers….”

Rather, they (along with the media) all appear to be spineless cheerleaders who parrot the government’s latest scary story

Thankfully, more and more people are thinking, and deciding, for themselves. Two years late, perhaps, but better late than never.

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Would you give up literally everything that you have worked towards in your life to tell the truth, become a pariah and lose everything? Quite the test the gods have thrown at the most educated and well to do among us.

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Deep down, I just ask that, if they don’t know, they not support the telling of obvious lies:

“The vaccine is 100 per cent effective.” “Breakthrough cases are rare.”

Etc.

It’s like when I FaceTime with my siblings. A while back I said to them, “If you say something about covid that’s accurate, I’ll agree with you. If you say something about covid that’s inaccurate, I won’t say anything.” Conversations between us got much more respectful, and very quickly. Mostly on their end.

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I prefer vaccine failure rather than 'breakthrough' cases. Even the 'vaccines' are gene therapies, not traditional vaccines. It's frustrating to hear the wordplay (lies in my eyes) and shifting definitions. Typical of leftism and sliding goal posts.

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Worldwide, some of the efforts are vaccines by the traditional definition. But those are not allowed in the USA, probably other Western nations too. I think the closest is the J&J which uses a fake neutered virus to do the dirty work 😁. But just because a vaccine is a true vaccine doesn't mean it'll be safe or even effective. After two years I'm pretty sure we'd have heard if any of the foreign efforts were worth a damn. There has never been a successful (human) vaccine against any coronavirus; all the data from the field to date for the Covid-19 efforts reinforce that.

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Absolutely - agreed. I was using the euphemism that they preferred. I always thought of it as weasel-y.

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Even that term "breakthrough case" is a lie. They had to invent a new term for "vaccine failure."

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I’m not wise cat, but I think that OAS has happened before. The 1918 Spanish flu claimed the lives of many people in the prime of their lives, particularly those aged about 30. The leading theory is that they were exposed to the Russian flu as young children in 1889-90. When the Spanish flu came along, it was close enough to the Russian flu that the immune system said “no problem, I’ve seen this before”. The immune system was wrong and launched the wrong defence.

Is this a ball of yarn or a hairball? Inquiring cats want to know.

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OAS happens all the time. it is also a natural phenomenon well studied in influenza.

it is not a process exclusive to vaccines and likely plays a role in the way we cycle through flus and why specific flus are more dangerous to old people who antigenically imprinted on specific prior strains.

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Two paws up. Thanks

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So, does this argue against flu vaccine? More imprints vaxxed or natural, more chances for OAS? Does this also explain the elderly getting sicker or dying from colds and flu? The longer you live, the more chances for imprints?

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I'm providing this information to illustrate that OAS is not some fringe theory or something new. You will have to ask your questions of a more knowledgeable cat than me.

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Okey dokey. Do we know of anyone?

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Brian Mowrey has studied and written about OAS extensively: https://unglossed.substack.com/p/darmok-and-the-spike-protein-at-tanagra.

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Thanks.

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Older people have weaker innate and adaptive immune responses as well. Apparently, the thymus converts to fat as we age. Yay.

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But could omicron have this effect on the unvaccinated?

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If so this would mean that theory that the 1889-1890 Russian flu was actually the coronavirus OC43 that had jumped from cattle to humans would be wrong.

The theory that Russian flu was that coronavirus is given added weight by the fact that phylogenetic analysis suggests that OC43 arose around 1890 and also the symptoms of Russian flu were supposedly more similar to covid-19 than regular/Spanish flu

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Spanish flu, Russian flu ... all hogwash, and a coverup for Rockefeller´s vax from Kansas. Influenza only went so far, and then came the heyday of pneumonia. Bacterial, not viral. History repeats, with a twist (Marxian developmental spiral, perhaps), as corroborated by face masks that were last seen in gen. pop. also a century ago. As above, so below.

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this was a pretty interesting book...lots of citations for those interested in trying to verify...I didn't check them. it seems plausible though.

https://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Rainbow-History-Electricity-Life/dp/1645020096

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another representation of the ontario data

https://web.elastic.org/~fche/blog4/posts/big_fat_zero/?updated

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Cases, cases, cases. i want deaths, hospitalizations and recoveries.

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The data in Ontario includes a massive category of "unknowns." These are not included in the Ontario governmnet's pie charts - the "health" minister was lumping them in the category with "not fully vaccinated" on Twitter, until she changed her Tweets to be less transparent in early December...last post like this was Dec. 24th: "Individuals who are not fully vaccinated represent 22.7% of Ontario’s total population and amount to 1,892 of Ontario's 9,571 new reported cases. 254 cases are in individuals with an unknown vaccination status." So I guess she figures we can't do the math and realize vaccine failure.

Golden Pup on Twitter has been breaking down the data in a way that is more transparent. Many days, the number in hospital that are unknown outpace the "unvaccinated" category.

E.g. Dec. 31st Hospitalizations "with" covid (they admitted this includes incidental cases found on admission - they are going to fix this (after 22 months of cheating).

Unvaccinated: 236

Unknown: 330

Partial: 42

Fully vaxxed: 536

see: @Golden_Pup Twitter

What is an unknown? Someone who is vaccinated out of the province, country, or with a vaccine not approved by HC so it doesn't appear on the Ontario health card. So essentially, vaccinated. Adding them to the hospital stats blows apart the argument that hospitatilizations are showing good efficacy from the "vaccines."

Ont Chief Medical Officer announced this week they'd no longer be reporting "cases" and PCR only available for "free" in high-risk settings. We are still getting residual "case" reports, but those will not be available very soon. How convenient.

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Math is hard, so is the truth. Good job.

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And math will now get even harder! So many "educators" now want to have "equity" in math, so this means teaching to the lowest common denominator, and no advanced math allowed. Math is also said to be "racist". All answers are permissible, so 2 + 2 = potato.

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Alex and damned near everyone who looks into it, has said from the beginning that to a large extent the testing itself blows things out of proportion. The testing standards are ever-changing; in some places they're even different for vaccinated or unvaccinated patients! Many (most?) of those who test "positive" have no, zero, symptoms of Covid-19, often no symptoms at all. I don't give much credit Ontario's -- or anyone else's -- case numbers. Show me a consistent test result, with some secondary confirmation or at least a consistent symptom (pneumonia), and then we might have something to discuss. Until then, it's a bunch of authoritarian wanna-bes pretending to do medical science with a tool that was never intended for use as a medical diagnostic.

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And ages, comorbidities…

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you get nothing . gif

(from the government)

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We are still looking at case numbers, because most countries still use them as a main metric for decisions(mask wearing, green passes, lockdowns etc.). With Omicron there are slight, but increasing number of voices to stop viewing positive cases like we have done until now, because it brings a lot less hospitalizations(which the South African doctors said 2-3 weeks after they announced the variant).

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Cases, schmases. My nurse daughter gets tested twice weekly. She had a positive test one Monday, and the follow-up test on Friday was negative. Undoubtedly a false positive as she wasn't sick or even symptomatic. So was the positive reported as a "case" and added to the case numbers, and did the subsequent negative cancel it out? I doubt it.

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No drama in that these days.

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Interesting - wonder how the govs will react if the trend continues and if the vaccines helped to push this variant becoming reality. To this day I still think that Omicron didn't originate in South Africa and it was the case that the scientists and doctors there had the balls to announce it first and give as much data as they had to help everybody.

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The earliest finding of omi came from italy.

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I think during this whole thing the metrics were USED to support the official narrative and people having lost their critical thinking don't look close enough. Thank you, good kitty, for being the leader to provide these analysis on a daily basis!

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Do you see any signal as between boosted and unboosted? I am hoping my refusal to boost will help me a bit. Otherwise, I’ll just be here keeping up with my supplements and consider taking up religion?

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In the interview Joe Rogan had with Dr Malone, Dr Malone said that there was increased risk with each additional shot. Long interview, but Dr Malone gives some good information. See you in THR!

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Yes, I watched and remember that. Hope! Yes, see you over there :)

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I'm in the same boat plus still have chronic autoimmune problems triggered by the moderna vaccine. I've heard that doing the "flush niacin" protocol helps but that is kind of annoying to do lol. so FYI I've been taking a preventative dose of IVM and that has really made a difference (or it's just time?). I figure it doesn't hurt me and it might stave off other bugs so ...

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I’ve thought of doing that, but I’m doing Quercetin-Zinc for a bit, alongside Dr. Sears stuff. I also had Moderna, which played a part in a big psoriasis flare. Clearing now, thankfully. No bueno.

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There is a product that is supposed to help the vaxxed detox the graphene oxide. Nano Soma. Let me know if you want a website.

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Is that a component in all the vaccines? Is it what’s doing the damage?

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www.thenanosoma.com is the website. They have a protocol for using it to clear toxins from the jab. I haven't taken the vax but have noticed benefits from the product. Supposed to be beneficial for all.

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Thanks! I’ll take a peek.

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After I read the article I realized that Nano Soma or other similar products that get the stuff out of ppl could be the thing to save humanity.

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I will steel myself to take a look. But I’ve been implementing the basic recommendations of Dr. Barry Sears to resolve inflammation, to great effect. 🤞🏼

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There is other bad stuff in the vaccines but the graphene oxide or hydroxide is one bad ingredient. This article scared the s*** out of me: https://live2fightanotherday.substack.com/p/endgame-take-4-iont-in-jabs-turns?r=tdwkt&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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don't take that one too seriously

it confuses cell phone bluetooth with injected nanosomethingorother

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OK good to know. Thanks!

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It does not really matter what the ingredients are, or may be. It is enough to look at the after-vax blood analyses performed by multiple parties. There are no doubts there.

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I just had a zoom call last night with friends in Bend Oregon and Denver Colorado. One of the couple in Bend (triple injected) had covid - her partner did not. The other couple in Denver were about to have two friends visit (I assume injected as the couple both are triple injected) who both came down with Covid so had to cancel, and my daughter knows 3 people from her old (small) school who now have Covid - all injected. So I have to agree that the injection does not appear to be working all that well for some people as a "vaccine".

However, I too have had a very slight cold the last few days with a slight sore throat but nothing much more, just a bit tired, and people (especially the injected ones) keep asking me if I've tested for Covid. Why? I don't see the point - why play the game. I just have a minor cold. They are obsessed with testing.

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I write about the Canadian data frequently, most recently in my article "Canadian Blackout"... But basically all over the country governments at every level are changing the rules of blacking out data in favor of the vaccinated. It's pretty blatant

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Ok, so a difference between boosted & unboosted? That’s what I’m hoping, that my immune system can get back to fighting shape. Second & final shot was at the end of April.

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My wife is in the same boat also. Last shot in April also. She will never get more jabs knowing what she knows now. She seems to have a strong immune system and always has. She does take vit D and zinc and exercises daily. I remain un-vaxxed and do the FLACC protocol. Plus we have Ivermectin on hand just in case. I am 74 and she is 68 and we live in the Free State of Florida.

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I found some promising research on the combo of diphenhydramine (benedryl) and lactoferrin for C-19. I had to order lactoferrin online. Picked up some NAC, Quercetin and Melatonin along with the D, C and Durvacet form of IVM as a last resort.

https://scitechdaily.com/two-common-over-the-counter-compounds-reduce-covid-19-virus-replication-by-99-in-early-testing/amp/

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Anybody have a link to buying NAC? At one point I saw it on Amazon, but didn't order it. Now I do see it there.

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Vitamin Shoppe has it in stock in the US.

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So does Vitacost.

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I’m in the reasonably free state of Texas. Let’s hope we are all celebrating the defeat of the nonsense one year from now.

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I am Texan. I live free. No "reasonably" here. BTW about 5 days into covid and feeling pretty good. It was like a medium to strong cold. Took nothing for it. No vitamins, no IM, no Hydroxy, although 2 nights I did take some aspirin. 67 YO and in good health.. Just go live your life ignore the noise, besides doing so infuriates the other side like poking them in the eye.

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Love it, and now you’ve got the holy grail of immunity!

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💕🐱praying that you will be just fine🐱💕

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Your biggest hope should be that you got placeboed, twice. I do not know what the odds are.

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Is it possible that this is ADE and that a mild variant was used to see if it worked against the vaccinated? Just a thought.

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Like others have said the Ontario data is soon to be rather useless as the government has cried uncle.

So now you can only get tested if you show symptoms. Our positivity rate was 33% back on the 30th, I imagine it’s higher but have not looked.

No talk of hiring back the fired unvaxxed, we are still scarlet lettered and it’s full on boostering everything in sight. Which per gato is probably making things much worse.

[edit] this is the official govt line on testing:

-Free PCR testing was previously open to all members of the public but last week, the province announced that those tests will now be reserved exclusively for high-risk individuals who are symptomatic or at risk of severe illness from the novel coronavirus.-

Final note: very few of Canadians have natural immunity, we “crushed” covid early on and boy was there a lot of smug comparisons to the USA going on, until recently 😂.

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It doesn't seem like a question at this point that Omi evades vaccines. This doesn't surprise me since the vaccine efficacy stopped looking good a long time ago.

My only real question is whether it evades natural immunity too and if so to what extent. I've seen studies that go either way.

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Of all the cases in Ontario for omi - 25 or so “reinfections” …. So it can happen but doesn’t seem really be a thing unless you really really look for it

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I think it bears watching... a lot.

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