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That Dr. Ritz thread was super bueno but sorely needed by 90% of MDs 18 months ago. That's how we know just how deep the corruption and rot goes.

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90-95% of MD's don't think, period. They follow the tribal consensus. Back in 2020, I asked my GP about HCQ, and he said that all "his guys" say it doesn't work. He also said no when I asked him if he'd read any of the clinical reorts. This is what passes for medicine.

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This is the funny thing. My family won't listen to me because all their doctor friends tell them otherwise. But I'm the person who peer reviews a dozen or so medical papers a year not their doctor friends. So I am way more capable of reading the fine print. By amazing coincidence I hang out at gato malo.

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Feb 11, 2022·edited Feb 11, 2022

My doctor, while trying to get me to take a statin, quoted the 100% greater survival rate with statins. I asked him if he knew how they calculated that stat. He didn't. I told him. He still insisted they worked wonders. 🙄 The statin he wants me to take costs $300 a month. --- Science!

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I had a similar discussion with my mother's doctor while getting her off the meds. Dr. Aseem Malhotra of the UK along with a panel of other doctors gave a discussion to the EU parliament about 3-4 years ago about the dangers of statins. That was part of the info I threw at the doctor.

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I read an article that statins substantially increased the risk of dementia. Mom is 89 and that's what she's struggling with. I asked her doc about it and he blew me off. He said it was actually the opposite and statins decreased the risk of dementia.

He obviously was just spitballing and had no idea of what article or study I was talking about. I took her off statins and haven't told him, but I don't think her forgetfullness is getting worse quite as fast now and that's been almost a year.

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Statins! 🙄 I got my husband to quit his once for a few months. He had his check-up and his cholesterol was high again and the doctor had a fit, so he went back on them. He won't eat right, he's diabetic, and has heart problems. He takes 11 pills a day and although he complains about it, he really seems ok with it. I gave up. It's his life.

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Turmeric. High high doses. Liposomsal turmeric or Turmeric Forte. The latter has been studied in bypassing BLood brain barrier and helping. An engineer friend of mine also has his wife on a standardized 95 form that he and she told me helped with her Parkinson’s. Supposed to be good for dementia also.

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Awesome! Thank-you for posting this info. One thing to be aware of, that I found out by accident, is it thins your blood, so if someone is taking blood thinners, which I was, they need to be very careful. Disclaimer: I didn't seem to have any problems from it until I needed surgery. (That's how I found out.)

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I’ll try it.

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I reread both Ray Sahelian, MD (raysahelian.com), both his opening salvo about the mRNA vaccines and linked to his curcurmin / turmeric article (see list of herbs/nutraceuticals at bottom of page) and both are excellent.

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Awesome! I'm so happy you were able to do this for your mother!

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Is that something like 3000 people have to take statins to save one life?

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Feb 11, 2022·edited Feb 11, 2022

For people who have no history of heart disease, the NNT (number needed to treat to prevent one non-fatal INCIDENT) is 104.

That 104 people taking a statin DAILY for FIVE YEARS, to prevent ONE NON-FATAL heart attack. Of those, 1 in 50 (ie, two out of the 104) will develop diabetes, and 1 in 10 will suffer muscle damage.

https://www.thennt.com/nnt/statins-for-heart-disease-prevention-without-prior-heart-disease-2/

Statins for healthy men is a scam, and anyone who advocates for their use is a charlatan. They have zero effect on mortality in healthy men, so the NNT for preventing cardiac-related DEATH is... infinity. So, 'statins for all men over 50' will give 2% of healthy 50+ men diabetes, in order to prevent zero deaths.

The NNT site is very informative, and Pharma vampires should be required to reference it in direct-to-consumer advertising. Yeah... that'll happen.

Ditto for the Cochrane Collaboration.

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My 80 year old dad started them at 78 at the advice of his cardiologist. This was bad advice?

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It doesn't matter who they're trying to push them on, they are a scam.

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😂🤣 --- No. If 4 people in 100 die of heart disease, but don't take statins and 2 people in 100 die, while taking statins, that's 100% increase in lives saved. The fact that the numbers are minuscule doesn't factor in for the drug companies to claim how efficacious their drug is.

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I'd be interested to know how they calculate it :)

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I'm no mathematician but I think it involves a well-lubricated pair of tongs and a gaping asshole.

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And who did the calculations? The manufacturers ? The FDA?

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Most doctors are really very poor at a data analysis. They are not the people anyone should turn to for an evaluation of a study on the efficacy of some drug or NPI.

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Feb 12, 2022·edited Feb 12, 2022

Can you repeat that? I just want to hear it reverberate in my soul. Truth! If you see my other comment, I work for 6. They listen and regurgitate the drug reps. I am being slightly harsh on them but not much.... I do think a couple of them read. But they read the drug reps literature, and AMA and their own AAO literature, not much else, just like they read the injection pamphlets CDC put out in cooperation with Pfizer/Moderna. That I’m not joking about. I wish I were.

Oh PS, while I doubt they read substack, if they do: Prove me wrong. I’d love to be.

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I wouldn't COMPLETELY despair: an incompetence rate of 90-95% goes with a competency rate of 1 in 10 or 20. For example, there ARE doctors who understand and practice early COVID treatment, deserving of our support and appreciation. They have it bad enough without getting hit from all sides. When I've needed treatments that goes beyond routine, it's been a struggle to find doctors who rely on their own clinical observation and thinking, rather than blindly following those CDC pamphlets. I am soooo grateful when I do. But out of 6 in your case, I can see where the competence fairy might have passed over such a small group.

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“Competence fairy”😀 love it.

They are board certified ophthalmologists, general, cornea, glaucoma, including consider upstanding, moral and caring men. These comments I make are why I absolutely PULL my hair out when I think of their knee jerk liability reaction to the narrative.

But think of this, while I would have cheered if they rejected the narrative, they would have lost patients. We had one patient tell me personally “I’m glad your office has a culture of vaccination”. I believe I am quoting her verbatim. She wasnt remotely the only patient. A man stood at my desk and said the unvaccinated should be fined.

I think their (MDs) first thought was not “what is the truth here” but “how can I be free from liability”. And they couch this in their heads with the follow up “I am just protecting my patients”.

I’m not justifying their behavior. There will be a reckoning. In their complacency people will die and or have permanent adverse effects, staff and patients both. By their complacency and desire for “safety” over reason and safety over freedom? They are complicit.

It is possible my direct boss may read my comments. If he is: I love ya dude, but I am absolutely prepared to take the consequences of my words. There is no scientific basis for masking, testing and, despite some very minor achievements with the shots, it is short-lived, hyper stimulates the immune system with God only knows what long term damage and is obviously non-sterilizing. So exactly what are the mandates for?

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SCIENCE! by consensus due to a lack of knowledge or a desire to acquire such.

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Agree 100%. Science and medicine should be bastions of critical thinking, but they've been compromised by tribalism. Western medicine thinks it's so advanced, that whatever pond scum that floats to the top must automatically be true. In South America and Asia, doctors can, IMHO, be more honest about verifying what they think they know, and can be freer to investigate with less peer constraint. At least judging by the scope of their research. By contrast, in the west, Pfizer spokespersons can make suggestions anout vaccine efficacy, and if they're received favorably by Fauci, and if the media has their back, the whole medical community concurs without really knowing why. But it must be true because, as you said, SCIENCE!

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Except the ccp has been charged that they 'clean up' and/or 'disappear' their data on an as-needed basis...This Information Age is going to get mean, complicated, and very confusing. The corruption will be global.

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Man… great encapsulation of truth here.

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sort of like evidence-based medicine and peer-reviewed research papers---ultimately it ends up in an echo-chamber controlled by the kult

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I had a similar conversation with mine. She looked at me blankly as if I were from Mars.

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I had to go to the dermatologist yesterday because I needed a prescription refilled and I had not been for a visit in more than a year. I have been on the medicine for many years and the original prescribing physician left the area and the prior practice broke apart, so this was only the second time going to this practice. Masks are required (pretty much the case for all doctor visits in my area (PA)--one of the only places they are required). The doctor came in and I instinctively went to shake his hand and he looked scared and pretty much recoiled. Then he said please take down your mask so I can look at your face, but do not talk while your mask is down. You can talk when you put your mask back on. Unbelievable. I won't be going back.

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Perhaps you carelessly misread the credentials. The specialty you appear to have encountered may be Derpatology, rather than Dermatology.

Don't feel bad, it's a common error. Just don't go back.

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“Modern medicine” is a relative term and in every era “modern medicine” is filled with arrogance.

We were using mercury, MERCURY!!! To fill cavities as recently as the 90s.

We laugh now, but most people over 35 have mercury in their mouth.

The laughing never stops. The once size fits all vaccines applied at birth is an obvious joke. Someday modern medicine will snark at this, whilist exacting some new atrocity with sublime confidence.

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And: "Yes, that formulation that was cooked up in the labs is definitely superior to mother's milk."

I still hold that this has to be THE most arrogant thing humans have come up with yet. Although there's a stiff competition for that award.

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When we were babies (the 60s) the docs were pushing moms to use formula because it was better for the babies. We were poor, so mom disregarded her doc. Doc then told her to not let the baby have more than one boob at a time.

Mom went to Grandma's house and wouldn't let my sister have more than one boob. Sister was still hungry and Grandma, who had successfully raised 9 kids, told her to feed that baby both boobs.

Mom did and quit paying so much attention to the docs.

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Veterinary medicine isn't any better with the vaxxes. You have a 6 lb Chihuahua you get them their "shots," which are the EXACT same amount of vaxx as the 150 lb Bull Mastiff (or whatever they weigh). The antibodies actually last 5 or more years, but by law you have to over dose that little Chihuahua, every year and vets refuse to dose to weight.

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I have a 15 month old dog who has had one rabies vaccine at 7 months and zero others. I waited until after 6 months because the vet said the immune system in a dog is fully developed then. I gave zero puppy vaccines. Not needed. Harmful.

I don't live in the city near a bunch of strays. I'd never go to a dog park. Dog sitter at home when we vacation.

Not dosing for weight is criminal. My dog was 65 lbs at 7 months.

Vet said about 10% of dogs react poorly to vaccines.

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We had a vet for years that we loved. He acknowledged that not all of the vaccines were completely necessary and that the important one for rabies likely was effective for life. In California if a cat bites someone and it's rabies status is expired or unknown, it must be decapitated, it's head sent to Sacramento. Our 14 years-old cat bit me and because I required medical care the county was notified, they coordinated with our vet. Cat had last rabies shot over 12 years prior but we were not required to send his head, which confirms for me they know repeated shots aren't necessary.

After our vet passed and we needed to find a new vet, I noticed the intake forms at the various vet offices all asked about lumps or tumors. When I asked the new vet we chose she explained it's known that the vaccines cause tumors and pretty much all their clientele have them.

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Respectfully, you are mistaken.

In the US we are still using amalgam fillings in which the material is 50% mercury. https://www.epa.gov/mercury/mercury-dental-amalgam

The FDA began investigating mercury amalgam fillings in the 1990's, they determined no harm is caused and removing such fillings has no health benefit.

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Of course the FDA said it was safe.

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I had mine removed two and a half years ago.

They aren't safe but do last a long time.

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As if you stopped breathing when the mask was down, and that the mask stopped anything. Here's a simple experiment you can do with a pocket mirror - with mask on, put the mirror in front of your mouth. If it fogs up, then the doc is at risk...

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Doctors and nurses that work with isolation patients (tb, etc) must be tested each year to ensure they know how to fit and wear an N95 properly. A noxious smell is released nearby and if they can smell it the N95 isn't fit/worn properly. The vast majority fail several times before they pass.

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Try this, works @ 1-4 oz. per day, mix w/ OJ for beverage--get off meds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvtmf_pYll4

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😲 Unbelievable!

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Yup, got my 85 year old father off statins a couple years ago after horrible and debilitating leg pain. He would call my sister literally in tears it was so bad, he really was wondering if he could go on. His doctor was completely clueless and didn't make the link. I got him to try stopping them (against doctor's "orders") and the pain gradually disappeared and was completely gone in a few weeks. He's been off statins and had zero leg pain ever since (along with no heart issues).

The doctor had put him on statins about a year before based on his total cholesterol being in the low 200's (despite the fact his HDL was very good). This was for an 82 year old man who'd never had a single cardiac issue in his life, but she put him in statins because some algorithm told her too. She did that despite apparently knowing nothing about the side effects.

The medical industry has been a disaster for years in this country and there needs to be a reckoning. Hopefully the vaccine fiasco will help that along though at a terrible price for those who trusted them.

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Statins have cultivated a similar aura to vaccines -- "it's totally safe so might as well take it to be on the safe side why not". It's bullcrap in both cases. People don't need to be anti doctor they just need to understand their doctor is like their auto mechanic. They are probably both trying to help you but they are also both making money off you and have more knowledge than you and the buyer needs to beware.

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Feb 12, 2022·edited Feb 12, 2022

Agree most part but I think they do need to be anti-doctor, at least in pushing back against the authoritarian attitude. I've never heard a mechanic tell me I was "non-compliant" or "violating mechanic's orders" if I didn't follow his advice. Nor does my mechanic insist I call him by a title (e.g. Doctor) while he calls me by my first name. Nor does my mechanic make me sit there in my underwear and a degrading cheap paper gown while lecturing me.

If doctors acted more like mechanics the world would be a much better place. A doctor is a person one hires as a health consultant, he/she is paid help, nothing more. However the medical system is set up to convey a sense of a parent/child relationship, it's more like that of clergy with a congregation. That's not by accident. Next time a doctor says they are writing a script, try saying, "no thanks Doc, I think I'll pass" and see how it goes over. They don't like it as they view it as a direct challenge to their authority.

I think we probably agree on 95% of the details, my gripe is that unless someone is extremely confident and assertive, the medical system is devised to bully people into compliance.

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Interesting. That happened to two family members. The first one, the cardiologist wanted to order meds before any tests were even done.

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You are 100% correct.

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Feb 12, 2022·edited Feb 12, 2022

Liability and drug companies. They sold their souls to one or the other or both. I work for 6 fine men. But the first is their Achilles heel. Drug companies? They are wayyyyy too trusting of. Or complicit. My dad thinks complicit. I think the docs just never did their own independent research. I think that’s why Richard Urso, MD is one of the good guys. He does his own research. As do a lot (Kory, Marik).

Mine? They ask no questions. At least not about the injections.

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All of what Dr. Ritz had to say there was easy to predict after the Diamond Princess, so I'd roll that back to 23 months ago.

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dr ritz.. thank you !!!!!!

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We need to develop a quick screening tool to use to vet anyone in the medical profession we will be dealing with in the future. I want to know EXACTLY where they stood on the pandemic. No quack is going to get a dime from me.

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i like it.

show me your office policies and social media posts from 2020 please.

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Ask them why they got vaxxed, as soon as they tell you they r vaxxed because, you can walk away before the explanation, you already know they are idiots.

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perfect. Simple, effective and quick.

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This is not quite as simple as you make it out. Anyone over 65 could make a good case for the early vax, especially given the preliminary results. Some of the pillars of this community of rational people are vaxxed. Data still good for some level of protection for a number of months from the initial infection. (Protection from severe illness/death, not from transmission/infection). I would suggest you use a more discriminating test.

I like the masking test better. There is something that it has long been known has no value. You have never had to wear one in my office, staff or patients.

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In PA where I live, masks are required in hospitals and doctors offices. It is not up to the individual doctor or hospital. It is the county health department. It's likely this is the case in a lot of places. We do need a test, but masks aren't it, in my opinion.

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Susan, They are required where I am, too. I just do not comply. The one time it was mentioned to me I noted that I was a board certified microbiologist and would be happy to discuss the relevant facts. Never heard from them again. But I am the cantankerous type, so there is that.

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Now Substacks reply button doesn't work, so to reply I must like first. I like your comment, but you see the conundrum. Am not as cantankerous as you, so didn't challenge masking with an ophthalmologist who is a great doctor in his specialty.

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There absolutely are doctors out there that never recommended the vaccines across the board and there are doctors not vaccinated.

I've also started emailing local politicians (councilman, county supervisor, etc) to determine where they stood.

I'm not a trucker and I'm not going to join a convoy. But I am a voter.

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Imagine how lovely it would be to have a sort of Rorschach test for totalitarianism. One that elicited consistent, specific responses from our tyrannical friends?

And if the response could be scaled, ranging from, say, a facial tick for the typical Good German all the way up to complete loss of bladder and bowel control for the Faucis among us, it would truly be a different world.

It could be printed on shirts, hats and employment applications, or even billboards and murals in Team Blue cities. You know how they love their murals.

Are there any psychologists out there in the gatoverse who could look into this?

Needless to say, I would *love* to test it out here in the target-rich environment of Silicon Valley.

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I was actually thinking of something similar a long time ago, where you test kids at a very young age - so it's harder for them to cheat, for signs of psychopathic tendencies, sociopathy and narcisistic tendencies. Whoever doesn't pass with flying colours has no business in politics. Ever.

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The problem is not with people with psychopathic or sociopathic tendencies, per se.

Throughout history, it appears that such people have always been with us, and I fear they always will.

The problem is that we have allowed the State to become nearly omnipotent. Power attracts sociopaths like flies to feces, and it corrupts in direct proportion to strength:

"All power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely."

~ Lord Acton

The only way to keep the sociopaths at bay is to limit the power of the State.

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That's easy. Show up at the office without a mask.

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Bret Weinstein called this the "annoying part of the pandemic" where those of us who were right all along are still villified, those who were wrong all along are saying exactly what we have been saying all along and are celebrated for it

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"Just because those idiots happened to be right doesn't mean they were correct" seems to be the tone.

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Or the Scott Adams mantra of we couldn't have known, we were just lucky. (Specifically regarding vaccines even though our argument from the beginning is there is no long term data)

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While the vaccine hesitant are just lucky, it's a well established fact that those that preach covid vaccines are by definition, unlucky.

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Because they are saying it at the right time. Unlike us annoying little know-it-all pricks.

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Is anti-vax still some sort of insult?

I question anyone who is vaxxed for anything now. We just witnessed billions of people be vaxxed for covid on fraudulent studies. Does anyone think that the DTAP vaxx safety study is on the up and up? Does anyone think that Pharma just started lying in 2020?

"Healthcare " screwed themselves, I doubt anyone sane trusts them now and it is all their own damn fault.

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It's especially hilarious after they expanded the definition to include anybody who was against mandates. Damn right I'm 'anti-vaxx' when you put it like that!

https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/newspeak-is-upon-us

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Vaccines are the most fraudulent arm of Pharma and always have been and yet it enjoys total legal immunity and a political/medical/media/cultural protection racket that prevents anyone from asking questions or voicing skepticism. It’s absurd. Vaccines, of out of all medical products/drugs, demand the most intense scrutiny and yet receive the least.

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Its the immunity that invited the fraud

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Feb 11, 2022·edited Feb 11, 2022

Perhaps, but there is intimation of great fraud prior to '86: SV-40, BIV have suspect history.

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I am never giving my kids another vaccine again. Not once.

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Same here. Kids are 12 and 9, so alas have gotten most of the poison already. We just unthinkingly trusted the pediatrician.

Regret it now, that we didn't research it more.

We always did decline the flu shot though. Even for the one with a weak chest who got pneumonia a few times when she got a respiratory infection. She's much stronger now thankfully.

We also said no to the HPV vax. Seemed so unnecessary. Have read more about it and now it's in the "over my dead body" category.

Will never trust the medical establishment again after these last two years. Will second guess everything they say!

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You did the best with the knowledge you had at the time. You're now willing to question what is still blindly accepted by a large portion of the population. We were living in China when I became pregnant and all the mom's groups were talking about the hot lots at the local hospitals. I'm forever grateful for being ignorant about hot lots. It send me down a path that has opened my eyes to not just vaccines but so much more that is sold to us as medicine. I highly recommend the book Dissolving Illusions (Suzanne Humphries). It's older but still relevant.

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I’m in the same boat. My twins were 6 when my eyes were opened, so they got most shots, but not all. I used to beat myself up (figuratively) over trusting the pediatrician, but this covid debacle made me realize how ingrained the pharma lies are in our world. At least we woke up!

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"conspiracy theorist" has been an insult for almost 60 years. That's when the CIA told the US media to use the term to discredit anyone questioning the Warren Commission Report (JFK Assassination)

The history of the term "anti-vaxer" will someday be shown to be very similar. Source, propagation methods, intent and outcomes.

Nothing has made me sadder (or, I suppose, angrier) this past year than watching videos of people grievously injured by the C19 injections, oh so many of whom feel the need to start their testimony by saying: "I am not anti-vax" ("I am not anti-science" often follows)

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The real interesting part is if you do a google trend search on anti vax and notice when the mainstream media started priming and planting this narrative in people's minds. (It was in 2018-2019 just prior to the "pandemic")

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Anti-vax is intended to be a slur.

I own it. With pride and a smile.

Vaccine manufacturers have had liability protection since the 90's. Their congressional agreement was they study effects on children and submit a report every 2 years. No reports have yet been submitted. One can hope more parents will research childhood vaccines and start making their own informed decisions.

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I regret having given my little ones the vaccines they do have. But I wear the "I did once, but not anymore" badge with pride. Those converted can sometimes be twice as fierce as those who have not come through the fire.

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I hear the Amish don't have all those autistic kids as they don't vaccinate. Is that really true?

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They have plenty of genetic problems as it is.

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They are aware if the genetic problems incl. Downs by now.

I am asking about autism.

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It is true that the Amish, Mennonites, and other Anabaptist sects do not vaccinate. And while they do have autistic children in their population, it occurs less.

The 2 may not be related.

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The law granting immunity to vaxx lawsuits was passed in 1986.

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Funny enough, they still use the argument that "you had to be vaxxed to attend school"... Which isn't true, there are exemptions, but was 5 year old me supposed to parse through the scientific data and do a cost benefit analysis?

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As if anything is a vaccine if you just call it one.

But you're right, that decision was made by your parents. And I had many friends who "didn't have their shots" when I was growing up. They were still allowed in school.

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Agreed. And I also know from personal experience that:

- My Boomer parents were unvaxxed for measles, got the disease, and survived just fine.

- I, an Xer, was unvaxxed for chicken pox, got the disease, and survived just fine.

Yet these two vaccines are on the childhood vaxx schedule and today's doctors would go into hysterics if you even questioned if they were really necessary.

Makes one wonder if any of the vaccines on the schedule are really necessary.

nb4. And the "grandaddy" of 'em all - the entire scare that began the vaxx craze - the dreaded SMALLPOX - is not on the schedule any more. I think it was stopped in the U.S. around 1971. I was born in the mid-70s and did not receive that vaccine. Yet the official "eradication" date was 1980 in Africa, I believe. Makes one wonder - how did this dreaded disease not jump from Africa to the USA during the period 1971 - 1980 with all those unvaccinated infants around. Hmmm...

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I remember getting together with the neighborhood kids for a pox-party in the early 60s. Back then you could count on getting reexposed as adults to "boost" your immunity. Now that chicken pox is on the childhood vaccine schedule, there's no more sick kids and you end up with a greater risk for shingles. No worries though. They have a vaccine for that.

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Yep, that's what I hear about shingles / chicken pox now. Unfortunately I gave my own kids the chicken pox (& other) vaxxes back in the 2000s when they were infants. I definitely regret it now. The thimerosol was out by that time but God knows what else was in there - aluminum, probably. At least I didn't get duped by the covid vaxxes this time around and inject my teenagers. I feel sorry for any young parents who didn't do their homework with the covid vax and injected their kids. :(

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1000 mg lysine upon first sign suppresses all herpes virus attacks

I use 2x d for 10 days.

It's a safe amino acid

I put my dad , a diabetic , on this 1x daily if he felt run down , after a case the local hospital declared " worst they ever saw"

Never had it again , ever.

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I had a measles vaccine, it almost killed me. Had measles and was just fine.

We saw many doctors when my children were young, 20-28 years ago. When discussing vaccination, across the board every single doctor had the same reason for suggesting the measles vaccine: That I would have to stay home from work for 10 days per child sick with the measles. I was a stay-at-home mom, so did my kids need the vaccine: No. The medical dire consequences propaganda didn't start getting pushed until the last decade or so ago.

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I am not sticking up for vaccines, but.. I'm 72 and had both polio vaccines and two smallpox vaccines. I had measles, rubella, mumps, and chicken pox (that I caught from my grandfather). The problem with the childhood diseases is how they affected adults. Much more serious illness, death, male sterility, pregnancy complications. We can have a reasoned argument about using children to protect adults (particularly septa and octogenarians), but the childhood diseases were adversely affecting adults in their prime. This is a difference with significance.

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Feb 12, 2022·edited Feb 12, 2022

Interestingly, it was vaccinating the kids for chickenpox that put the older adults at greater risk. Note the rollout of the shingles vaccine after mass vaccination for chickenpox. Note that the shingles vax was initially marketed to the 65-and-up crowd, but quickly dropped to 60, then 55, then 50, and is now urged for those in their 40’s.

Could it be that when chicken pox spread through communities on a fairly regular basis, that was enough exposure to “reactivate” adult antibodies that would keep the latent varicella zoster from reactivating? And that loss of that continual priming is responsible for the outbreaks occurring at younger and younger ages?

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The UK doesn't vaccinate for chickenpox.

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Wish I was knowledgeable enough to discuss this in depth. All I know is that I caught chicken pox from my grandfather's shingles, so transmission can occur that way. I thought the shingles vaccine was only for those who had had chicken pox, not the chicken pox vaccine. Were there massive numbers of the chicken pox vaxxed getting shingles before the onset of the shingles vaccine? If so, that gives weight to your speculation. If not, they why vax?

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Feb 13, 2022·edited Feb 13, 2022

Yes, it makes perfect sense that you caught chicken pox from your grandpa’s shingles. It’s the same virus: when first encountered, the body expresses the immune response as chicken pox. But the immune system doesn’t “kill” or eliminate the virus (varicella zoster), it simply becomes strong enough to suppress it into becoming basically dormant. If the virus is able to get around the immune defense, any future immune response to it is expressed as shingles (after the initial chicken pox infection, varicella zoster targets nerve roots at the spine, which is why shingles flares follow specific nerve pathways).

Yes, at this point in time, the shingles vax is only for those who had chicken pox. The chicken pox vax was introduced in the US in 1995 (with a booster dose added to the schedule in 2006). We’ve yet to see whether those who received the vax will be susceptible to shingles outbreaks - they’re all still in their 20’s. However, as the CP vax is a live, attenuated (weakened) virus, it seems likely that the varicella zoster will still just go dormant in their immune systems as it does in those who get “wild” chicken pox, which would give it the same opportunity to - down the road - also get around the immune defense and cause shingles.

The entire rollout for the CP vax was built around being a benefit for parents who might otherwise have to take a week off work in order to care for their kids when they get CP. There didn’t seem to be anyone around to suggest that introducing this intervention to solve a very mild problem now might cause serious problems down the road for the millions whose immune systems needed regular exposure to keep their own varicella zoster dormant. Thus, within a decade of the CP vax, we had the rollout of the shingles vax, only it quickly became apparent that it was not just the old, weak immune systems that were going to experience shingles.

I think we’ll see over the next decade or so whether the chicken pox vaxxed have the same problems with shingles as those who had the “wild” chicken pox infections. I have already seen the language on several shingles information pages change. Where they formerly described shingles as something that could “only develop only after initial infection with chickenpox” they have now added the language to include “…or, more uncommonly, after vaccination for chickenpox.”

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Shingles was unheard of in pediatric population until after the jab. It is up 60% + now.

1000 mg lysine is effective at suppression.

And unlike the " new" lip products containing it , it is very inexpensive

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I took the original shingles vaccine mainly because my sister-in-law had a very serious case of shingles. When the Shingrix vaccine was introduced, my PCP strongly recommended it. I was unable to even get on the "list" at my CVS. After at least a year, my pharmacist inquired if I was still interested. I was, until I learned the price - around $350 for the two shots. Given I had already had the older vaccine, I declined. Now I understand that Shingrix has a black box warning label. Thank God for cheapskates.

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True, this is anecdotal and I can only speak to my own experience.. I am 54. I was not vaccinated as a child . At 19 measles was in the community and I got my first measles vaccine. It nearly killed me. Just over one year later, at 20, I had the measles. Yes, it sucked . But it was not even on the same scale of enduring and surviving the measles vaccine. There was no internet then and if VAERS existed, no one mentioned it. Having measles as an adult was 10 days solid of being sick and unable to work or leave the house. I've never had the flu so I can't truthfully compare it but the measles doesn't seem as bad as most flu's, it didn't affect the lungs in any way. It was body ache, sore throat and light sensitivity. The rash was very obvious but not uncomfortable. As a caregiver to people with flu, flu seems worse.

I think vaccination is a fear business. We have better nutrition, cleaner water, our children are by and large breastfed. We have access to information and nutrients and supplements as never before. Tylenol and ibuprofen did not exist in my early childhood. Vaccines are available to those living in fear, that is as it should be; optional and available.

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Agree I never questioned vaccines until this one. Now I’m wishing I did earlier.

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None for me since childhood. My kids got the legal minimum to attend school (which is *much* less than the CDC schedule) and we spaced them out in time and delayed them as long as we could until they were older. Looking back I probably wouldn't even do that again.

Pharma and "public health" lost my trust long ago, now it's exponentially worse. I don't see how they recover from this fiasco.

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I'm a proud anti-vaxxer and I have been for the past 17 years as I discovered the fraud while pregnant with my first child who is almost 17. Now I feel like I can fully "come out" and not be shamed for it.

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I was not vaccinated as a child. My 4 are now 20-28, they were not vaccinated although 2 did get the covid vaccines. I have never felt shame but nor did I ever have discussions or debates about it. It's a personal medical decision made in consultation with personal doctors and nobody else's business. The hostility towards "anti-vaxers" has really only been in more recent years. Only my youngest son has ever heard any friends bring up the issue at which point he has told them he has never been vaccinated. They stare like he has 2 heads and can't understand how he survived childhood. He's insisted to me that his generation absolutely thinks unvaccinated children rarely survive to adulthood.

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I wear the anti-vax label proudly!

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Yup. After reading RFKs book you know: "this is not your father's oldsmobile--ehrm--vaccine."

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After the War, you could never find a German who had supported National Socialism. Same thing.

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if 10% of the french who later claimed to be in "la resistance" really had been, they would have swept the nazis from the country in weeks.

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I did.

Old people, farmers in the countryside. I took a break from the big city's filth and went to live in their small village in Baden-Wuertemberg for a couple of years in the eighties, when I was much younger and I traveled a lot. I am easy going and have an educated aptitude at fixing more or less anything that uses electricity to function, so I gained quickly the trust and friendship of all of them, except one. He was an ex-SS officer, paralysed from waist down from an old wound, and he just hated everyone from or outside the village, me being the top of his list for the simple reason of being there. I was actually told very early to avoid his place.

All day long he was writing reports to the "polizei" about people visiting me, the weird "auslaender", until a police car came to see what's all about, although they knew about me - in Germany, everyone must inform the police when and where they move with their residence. The whole village gathered in front of my house, took my side and told them to leave me alone and take the "nazi" with them. Very touchy story.

I always wanted to find out how things were under the nazi rule, but they would always avoid the subject, feeling clearly uncomfortable.

Long story short, some did open to me eventually, and their stories were always similar, so in the end I concluded that the history is written by the winners, and as a consequence it is always biased. I won't go into many details, they are not relevant here.

Interestingly, it seems that national-socialism was good to them, and in our private conversations I have never heard anything bad about Hitler himself.

"We loved him. We believed in him. Now, I'm not so sure anymore, you know, all this propaganda. Maybe it is now, maybe it was then. But we were all ready to die for him.

Then, all the killings, we didn't want that, it was horrible. He did not want that either. We wanted no trouble with anybody, but things happened and everything went south. We didn't want that, and now we have to live with this guilt." My question "Do you hate him now?" was never answered with a straight "yes", but a long pause followed by a faint "I don't know, why don't we change the subject?"

It is highly illegal in Germany to talk about such things and doing so would land anyone in jail for many years, and nobody would touch the subject unless in very close and trusted companionship. And a bottle of good old Schnapps ツ

So yes, I tend to believe there is more to it than we are being told, and some facts are contradicting parts of the official narrative, but they are disappearing slowly in the mist of time, together with the elders who kept them locked and buried in the deepest depths of their most secret memories.

Don't jump on me, for I am not judging, condemning or endorsing anyone and anything, this is a story and nothing more. And after all, I am too old to care, and the world is being torn apart by another one which seem to be worse...

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This just proves the point once you fell into Stockholm syndrome or got conned your brain will never able to cope with it.

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More recently we saw this with the Iraq war.

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Also dear experts,

We are coming for you.

I am coming for you.

And I'm as big a monster as you are. I'm just on the other team.

guttermouth.substack.com

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Ahhhh, I'm so stoked you have a substack now!

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Nice to have you.

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So when everyone admits that they should have never fired people like me, will we be hired back WITH back-pay and reinstituted as if we had never left (IE: our seniority)?

I doubt it because healthcare is corrupt beyond everything mentioned here. If it DID happen, I would return long enough to reap all that I'm owed and then walk away, shaking the dust from my sandals. I deserve better anyway.

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LOL same-ish boat here--l just left my job b/c mandates and bs accommodations, now they are giving everyone a massive pandemic bonus (this is straight gov't $ I think, lots of it floating around still, it seems) and I'm all...ah man, did I just lose out?

Then I remember: gov't $ always comes with strings attached, hoops to jump thru. Can honestly say the mandate was just the shove I needed to leave a bad situation.

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Not sure I'd call leaving and getting fired as the same. But whatever floats your boat.

I'm just tired of being unemployed and NOT getting jobs ONLY because I'm unvaxxed and my former employer keeps telling potential employers I was fired "For Cause" - which isn't true, since they changed the terms of employment requirements AFTER I had been working there so long.

I want my life back. I lost my seniority, I lost my pay, I lost a huge chunk of 403b savings because I hadn't crossed the "vestment" threshold yet (I would have in December, but was fired in October).

If they're going to admit to all the wrong-doing, they not only owe me an apology, but all that financial retribution as well.

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If there are ever lawsuits and they get people like me on the jury, there will be restitution.

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Thank you, reading that really does help.

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I will never get another flu shot and I will forever have distrust towards the medical establishment from here on out. I'm also terrified of ever needing to go to the hospital because they've proven I can't trust them. I'm not sure they can ever regain my trust honestly....

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Same. I used to get the flu shot annually because they came to the office and I figured it couldn't hurt and might help me avoid catching a bug. Now, thanks to the covid mania, I've actually learned it doesn't come with no risks and is mostly ineffective.

Also will never take what my doctor says at face value again. Have definitely learned through this fiasco that their trust must be earned, not given. Too many of them are not actually informed and/or motived to do what's best for the patient. My pregnant daughter's OBGYN actually tried to coerce her into getting jabbed. Unforgiveable.

As Dr. Lee Ritz says above, the damage they have done to public trust is going to be incalculable. And they will deserve every bit of pain it causes them down the road.

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Yep - absolutely agree!

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I have always had a huge hospital phobia. In 2012-2013 I had 3 hospitalizations in which one of my sons was allowed to stay with me 24/7. My doctor knows my concerns and when at all possible treats me at home with home nursing care, IV, x-rays, lab work, oxygen, all in my home.

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I believed in most shots but flu one I always refused as without research I realised this is something yearly so can't be vaccine by definition. Same was in 2010 with BS H1N1 mania and now when covid came I was already questioning everything in April of 2020... And I was sure I will not take any vaccine which comes up against this another 'deadly' pandemic.

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Though my natural death is decades away, I'm ready to kick it old school. Just drop me off in the woods or some other wilderness somewhere at the end. Don't take me to the hospital.

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These totalitarian criminals and charlatans were absolutely relentless and ruthless with their campaign to suppress the truth.

Now that many of the vermin are scurrying to the upper decks, we need to be equally relentless and ruthless in exposing them for what they are and holding them responsible for what they did.

I am normally a second-chance kind of guy, but these people are beyond the pale. They must never be allowed to change jerseys without being harangued and heckled at every turn.

I, for one, will never forget and never forgive.

Neither will my son.

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Meanwhile in Covidistan (the country formerly known as Canada, Dear Leader and some politicians and "top doctors" are doubling down. At least we're starting to see some cracks in the narrative and a few departures for Team Reality.

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Standard practice. The politicians hold back the mob right up until the backlash becomes overpowering, then they turn around and act like they've been leading the parade the entire time. (Example: Gay marriage)

As I said in a recent article, I didn't WANT to spend the last two years digging into the official numbers that destroy the official narrative, but since 'the experts' weren't doing it, here we are.

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You all say a prayer for Italy...we're still in very deep shit, on tuesday everybody over 50yo will be mandated to vax, I cannot have a coffee, eat out, catch a train or a bus, let alone visit a museum or buy a pair of shoes or a shirt, obviously because I'm unvaxxed...the only thing they've lifted is mandatory outside masking..don't even get me started on that, but please...say a prayer for Italy..

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🙏 stay strong hopefully this can’t last much longer. I was locked out of society here in Australia for 8 weeks and it was survivable. Wishing you the best

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The Dr. Ritz thread, is exactly how I have been feeling. There is no-one I am more disappointed in then our doctors and nurses. Certainly not all of them, but soooo many of them, that are gutless, arrogant, and with ego's so big from being called hero's at the beginning they didn't look past their own nose at the actual science. They bullied and shamed their colleagues and patients that questioned things. This could have ended with them. They could have been true hero's, but instead they were directly responsible for the spread of censorship and silencing of different voices. They prescribed toxic remdesivir that killed patients and didn't even question it. Ignored patients with vaccine side effects, even telling them to get another dose. Disappointed doesn't even scratch the surface.

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Most of those people have been needing a huge slice of humble pie for a very long time, indeed. The arrogance and pomposity is off the charts.

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I think it's called arrogance in the face of ignorance.

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With apologies to Reagan:

Don't trust,

And be damn sure to verify.

Oh, and speaking of Reagan:

"Mr. Castro Jr., tear down this mandate!"

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Also with apologies to Reagan: "We begin bombing in 5 minutes."

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Nine most terrifying words in the English language, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

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"how can we ever trust you again?"

There is NO acceptable answer to that question. It should be a statement, IMO:

"we will NEVER trust you again."

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And Lee Ritz sticks the landing. The judges like it. It's all tens. A perfect score.

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Your handle makes me LOL/cry. 🎭

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Yeah, but they didn't pre-sell any tickets for the audience.

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Does Dr Ritz actually exist?

Asking on behalf of a nobody middle-aged underachiever who wants to marry her.

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There is no mea culpa or comeuppance of any kind on the horizon. We just went through a week where governor after governor held press conferences to update on mask and other mitigation mandates. Every single one of them was a contrived victory lap filled with lies. JB Pritzger in particular spiked the football on how successful mask wearing has been in reducing COVID cases in Illinois, all while repeating the lie that 89% of COVID cases in hospitals are unvaccinated.

Hell will freeze over before these people admit to any wrongdoing whatsoever. And don't get me started on doctors. What PC or Ped physicians anywhere will ever admit to mistakenly pushing vaccines on the least vulnerable to COVID? These treatments could get pulled by the FDA over some undeniably dangerous and obvious side effect and the doctors will all claim, 'who could have known?'

And patients and parents, shamed by their gullibility, will be happy to let it fade into history rather than face their guilt head on. There will be no torches or pitchforks. Team Reality members will be the only ones present at their victory parties.

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And if any long term consequences of the experimental shots become too obvious to ignore, they will attribute it to the virus itself (continuing a pattern of blaming "the pandemic" rather than some of the more harmful NPI's).

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My bet is that these people are narcissistic liars - this sounds pretty familiar: "Once narcissists have assessed the environment and who they’re dealing with, they determine the best way to achieve status by either raising theirs or lowering that of other people. To regulate their self-esteem, they primarily utilize internal self-inflation and interpersonal skills.

1 Impression Management – Impression management is designed to influence others to gain both internal and external status and benefits, such as romantic partners, power, and money. They employ charm, using their wit, resources, talent, conversational skills, and self-promotion through boasting, embellishing, and lying to manage their impression. These strategies boost their self-image and raise their status with others.

These are most effective in the initial stages of a relationship or short-term interactions. Some researchers propose that the main difference between vulnerable and grandiose narcissists is that vulnerable or covert narcissists employ threat-oriented defenses and internal negative dialogues that don’t satisfy their needs for esteem and validation. In contrast, grandiose narcissists employ more mature reward-seeking strategies in pursuing acceptance and admiration.

2 Dominance – When self-promotion doesn’t work, grandiose narcissists’ resort to dominance. They are skilled manipulators, including covert manipulation, but also use direct power tactics and narcissistic abuse, such as belittling, lying, bullying, attacking, criticizing, or raging at the person they’re trying to influence as well as derogating their competitors. They put down others to elevate themselves.They create conflict that can lead to violence.

Grandiose narcissists sacrifice getting along to get ahead, while partners of narcissists sacrifice themselves to get along. They forego their status, rights, feelings, and needs to make the narcissist happy at their own expense, but the narcissist’s demands are never-ending." https://www.differentbrains.org/tactics-narcissists-use-to-gain-self-esteem-power/

If you think about the people behind all of this, they wind up looking like grandiose narcissists, and the only thing to do, if you want a stable society, is to get rid of them, get them out of positions where they can exercise dominance.

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Forgive the length of this comment.

There was no viral pandemic or epidemiological emergency in 2020- there was mass murder.

They will use a similar template and roll this out again unless there are prosecutions for the crimes they committed.

Covid-19 is the biggest money laundering scheme in the history of this country.

They mandated the use of remdesivir in combination with dexamethasone which killed off hundreds of thousands of "Covid" (rebranded flu and bacterial pneumonia) patients. In May 2020 they added vancomycin to the toxic cocktail. A total assault to the kidneys.

Number one issue right now that needs to be highlighted is that THERE WAS NO PANDEMIC - THERE WAS MASS MURDER.

All of this was (and much much more) done to create the mass hysteria event in order to hide the massive economic collapse of 2019 and hide the $13 trillion (so far) worth of bailouts AND to jump start the Pharma bio-security system as THE new economic driver in a bankrupt system.

Here is an addition to your excellent article:

The average age of a death by or with "Covid-19" is higher than life expectancy in all Western countries. No other figure even need be known to understand the "pandemic" (business model) is a fraud and a giant Ponzi scheme.

The fact that there is no such thing as a "Covid death" is another minor problem here as SARSCoV2 itself is a computer generated fiction.

In the US the "Covid death" number is cooked/manipulated due to how the CDC does their accounting as well as many other factors- an audit of the CDC mortality numbers themselves is required.

1) The first thing that must be addressed is "who were these people?" The average age of a "Covid death" is 80 in the US and 82 globally w/4 comorbidities on average. The vast majority of these people were from nursing homes, assisted living, hospice etc. Where did the vast majority of initial "Covid deaths" occur? Here in the US (and everywhere in the West- Milan, Madrid, London, Brussels, Montreal, Toronto, etc.) most, if not all, who died from "Covid" already had one foot in the grave and their death was put on fast forward through medical protocols not an anomalous viral event.

What we had here in the US was a radical and mandatory shift in policies relating to hospitals, care homes and the overall social order. These new "policies" were mandated through various new and aberrant state "guidelines" which resulted in a concentrated death rate for a six week period in March/April. Take that out of the equation and there is no death rate to talk about. Put (or keep) these policies in place and we will have this happen every year.

There was also gross negligence (beyond the usual) in numerous nursing homes that led to abandonment and medication alterations that turned these slow motion abattoirs into death houses. One of the remarkable things of note is that here in the US the "pandemic" was not widespread (which is supposed to be one of the defining features of a pandemic) but was in fact limited to very specific locations;

2) The faulty diagnosis of what is a "Covid death" did they die "with" or "from" Covid which is problematic for several reasons. In many cases an actual test was never done only a "presumed to be Covid" assessment was put forth. Add to this that when the tests were done PCR tests done with faulty specs (gene sequencing, cycle thresholds, annealing problems, faulty primers and so forth) were used. PCR can't diagnose anything in the first place and compounded with these problems they are useless and misleading;

3) No autopsies. Why were no autopsies done in the US? Why did they pass new mandates that halted all autopsies for "Covid deaths?" This went against decades long protocol. They also changed decades old protocol on how death certificates should be filed;

4) Another way they inflated death counts was through hospital admissions and faulty PCR testing. So for example if one came in with a coronary condition you would be given a "Covid test" no matter what- all admissions required this- and then if you died while in the hospital you could have been listed as a "Covid death." This happened frequently throughout the year;

5) Home deaths is yet another way that figures were cooked. This was admitted point blank by Stephanie Buehle (NY Dept. of Health spokesperson) among others who stated that home deaths with no testing at all would be presumed "Covid deaths." This "guideline" was mandated through the NY Health Dept;

6) Covid death counts were forged- CDC instructed officials and altered guidelines, on March 24,2020 in violation of Federal Law, to certify any death as "caused by" COVID if the decedent tested positive prior to passing or was suspected of having "C19", even if it wasn't the actual cause of death. Thus we have major misattribution. E.g., we have over 14,000 injury deaths listed in the "C19 death" total.

We also have unexplained declines in other common death categories because so many have been attributed to "C19." The unprecedented broad definition of "C19" death has created huge fraud in "Covid death" counts;

7) Another way they inflated death counts was through hospital admissions and faulty PCR testing. This caused a huge spike in iatrogenic deaths caused by misattribution of "Covid" to incoming patients and the ensuing improper treatments applied e.g. ventilators, remdesivir and associated fentanyl dosages which killed thousands.

So for example if one came in with a coronary condition you would be given a "Covid test" no matter what- all admissions required this- and then if you died while in the hospital you could have been listed as a "Covid death." This happened frequently through the year.

The practice of PCR-testing hospital admissions who are asymptomatic for Covid using high Ct values undoubtedly caused deaths and unnecessary suffering.

This matters for several reasons. A pneumonia patient e.g. has a very good chance of surviving with correct support. However, if the patient tests ‘+’ for the non-existent pathogen an entirely different medical protocol goes into action and with this and there is little chance of survival.

The 'diagnosis' of "Covid" effectively permits dangerous protocols to be enacted that then increase the chance of mortality.

With regard to adoption of a new RT-PCR protocol for hospital admissions this also falsely manufactured death statistics for "Covid." Add to this how it was incentivized-$$$$$ while hospitals are under extreme financial duress. The US hospital system had it's worst financial quarter on record in the middle of a "pandemic." Administrators were under pressure to alleviate that financial pain and exploit all openings in the CARES Act.

None of this is accidental.

8) Lockdown impacts- too numerous to cite here.

In short whatever "excess deaths" which may have occurred anywhere can be attributed to people who didn't have to die but were KILLED due to the unnecessary use of ventilators, harsh toxic drugs, people dying prematurely do to lack of medical treatment, ill effects from the lockdowns and so on.

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All of this is correct (well, broadly: I confessed to scrolling!).

I’ve been saying do for 22months, in the face of attacks & insults.

For me, the greatest disappointment was the realisation than none of those I’d worked with for decades had any spine. They all ran away.

We’re not planning on letting you go on your way quietly. Some of you are guilty of murder.

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“THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.”

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My bet is that these people are narcissistic liars - this sounds pretty familiar: "Once narcissists have assessed the environment and who they’re dealing with, they determine the best way to achieve status by either raising theirs or lowering that of other people. To regulate their self-esteem, they primarily utilize internal self-inflation and interpersonal skills.

1 Impression Management – Impression management is designed to influence others to gain both internal and external status and benefits, such as romantic partners, power, and money. They employ charm, using their wit, resources, talent, conversational skills, and self-promotion through boasting, embellishing, and lying to manage their impression. These strategies boost their self-image and raise their status with others.

These are most effective in the initial stages of a relationship or short-term interactions. Some researchers propose that the main difference between vulnerable and grandiose narcissists is that vulnerable or covert narcissists employ threat-oriented defenses and internal negative dialogues that don’t satisfy their needs for esteem and validation. In contrast, grandiose narcissists employ more mature reward-seeking strategies in pursuing acceptance and admiration.

2 Dominance – When self-promotion doesn’t work, grandiose narcissists’ resort to dominance. They are skilled manipulators, including covert manipulation, but also use direct power tactics and narcissistic abuse, such as belittling, lying, bullying, attacking, criticizing, or raging at the person they’re trying to influence as well as derogating their competitors. They put down others to elevate themselves.They create conflict that can lead to violence.

Grandiose narcissists sacrifice getting along to get ahead, while partners of narcissists sacrifice themselves to get along. They forego their status, rights, feelings, and needs to make the narcissist happy at their own expense, but the narcissist’s demands are never-ending." https://www.differentbrains.org/tactics-narcissists-use-to-gain-self-esteem-power/

If you think about the people behind all of this, they wind up looking like grandiose narcissists, and the only thing to do, if you want a stable society, is to get rid of them, get them out of positions where they can exercise dominance. Probably the thing to do with the medical industry is to set a ground rule - lie about a material fact, that if relied upon by others for the maintenance of their health or cure of disease, results in injury or death, and that person or company is out of business and subject to criminal and civil prosecution. And I'd abolish the "police power" for public health, no health directive could be made mandatory for natural persons, and similar would apply to corporations - they could not mandate public health measures for employees, period.

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Reminds me of the story of the bad people in the Arctic, who would steal, put you in danger, sleep with your wife.

Someone asked “how do you deal with such a person up here?”

The answer is that “someone pushes them off the ice, when no one is looking”.

We could use some of that. These people are toxic to any society. I’m willing to take my turn if called upon to push.

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"The Inuit people of Alaska have a word, kunlangeta, for “a man who … repeatedly lies and cheats and steals things and … takes sexual advantage of many women — someone who does not pay attention to reprimands and who is always being brought to the elders for punishment.” Anthropologist Jane Murphy revealed this in a study published in 1976. When she asked how the Inuit people dealt with a kunlangeta, one man told her, “Someone would have pushed him off the ice when no one was looking.” https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/the-kunlangeta-part-i

Yep. Good analysis. It may be something like paedophilia, power attracts them like children attract paedophiles, and there really is no cure for them, except to exclude them from society entirely. There's speculation that it's an organic brain disorder and can be found on examination, and that would be interesting if in fact it were true... see https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130619101434.htm and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8333046/

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I’ve taken names. I will neither forgive nor forget.

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I'm a shoemaker who specializes in cement. One size fits all.

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I'll stand watch for you while you push. 😉😋

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Wish I could like this more than once :)

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Yes! This is exactly why I am utterly unforgiving of any of these people and would prefer to see not too few of them publicly executed. I said what I said.

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#teamheadsonpikes

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“Problem today is no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.” Except my cat; he just eats them. 🐿

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😂🤣

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Overdue

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I don't know who Dr. Lee Ritz is, but I LOVE her!

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When presented with the question "God or mammon," most doctors circled mammon, without hesitation.

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Dr. Ritz brings the heat!

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I suspect very few doctors and those in the general public have even read the EUA documents. When I ask what percent of the participants, in both groups, developed symptomatic covid, I have had answers from 20 to 80 percent. I just get a blank stare when I raise one finger and proclaim that it is less than 1. And of course I add that in the pfizer trial no one died from covid even within the placebo group. I tell them I'll take the placebo.

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When I was starting my career in tech around 2000, I saw a lot of what I called "management by IT Weekly" where the CTO of the startup would declare new directions based on whatever article he read last.

I suspect that a lot of doctors practice "medicine by JAMA Weekly".

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I really hope there's an army of internet nerds able to permanently capture the videos of people like Leanna Wen because they are going to be wiped from the internet for sure. What a creep.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/cDus3EcWTgz5/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIlRX-k75Qk "We are not going to reach herd immunity because of vaccine hesitancy"."We have a very narrow window to tie reopening to vaccination status. Because otherwise, if everything is reopened, then what's the carrot going to be? The CDC and Biden Administration needs to come out and say, "If you are vaccinated, you can do ALL these things, all these freedoms that you have, because otherwise, people are going to go out and enjoy these freedoms anyway."

And now she says,..."the responsibility should shift from a government mandate, imposed from the state or the local district or the school, rather it should shift to an individual responsibility by the family."

The ability to lie with such ease illustrates her objectives are secret. And maybe I'm reading her wrong, but I think she loves state control.

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“ true colors were shown by a great many people and as a result, a great deal of information and context has been laid plain for all to see.”

The Left: the people need to rise up

The people: ok

The left: just kidding, back in your box, you dumb proles

The left’s abandonment of their professed ideals has been spectacular. They have clearly demonstrated that it’s all been bullshit; they don’t give a damn about the “working class” or the environment or whatever else they claim to. It’s always been about nothing but power and that has been made abundantly clear.

Factor that into how you vote. No matter what they say between now and when you go to the polls.

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Reminds me of the Clash's great song, Know Your Rights, with one verse that says "You have the right to free speech . . . . . as long as . . . . you're not dumb enough to actually try it!"

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THANK YOU DR. RITZ. Every one of my docs bought into the BS and I have dumped all of them. Anything CDC, NIH, AMA has to say, I will run the opposite way-I hate you and will NEVER trust you ever again. You are all murderers, liars, sell-outs, cowards, and pieces of shit. I hate you all.

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I agree with you goose. Fortunately, our God was watching over us and gave us telemedicine! The doctors on the Internet helping people with Covid have my thanks.

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Yup, thats how I got my ivermectin!

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...And that goes double for me! Dismantle the health care system.

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doctors and nurses killed patients... i can never forgive that.

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I always admire people who can verbalize how I feel so well! Great Job!

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Gosh great article and so timely. Just this morning cleaning out emails, one was from august 2020 forwarded from a friend. It was from her chiropractor; to summarize, the doctor said, don’t give into reports that the “sky is falling.” The doctor reflects on “real experts” and the misleading stories about Tom Hank’s fading antibodies and susceptibility of a new infection. He wrote, your body will develop antibodies that will fade but memory cells will persist. Immunity does not disappear with antibodies. He goes onto explain T cell and B cell immune response.

I do not know this doctor, but maybe he is still on the side of doctoring and common sense.

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Just to repeat: You are the cat's pajamas. Don't want to say it too often lest your head get too big you can't get through the cat door.

Here are my new doctors. Not sure what they're saying. But, at least, they haven't tried to kill me.

http://res.publicdomainfiles.com/pdf_view/41/13519167015579.jpg

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lol. I need a new doctor so I clicked the link.

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😂😂😂

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I will never again trust any of these devils or their corrupt institutions. I was always skeptical, but this episode has really confirmed my dark suspicions. That is actually a bit satisfying in a strange way.

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Yup. Got treated for cancer 11 years ago. I told the doctors I wanted to know everything about what was being done. Smiles. Pats on the shoulder. Sure.

Then when I actually really did demand to know, when I pointed out the various respects in which they'd lied to me, when I was figuratively jabbing needles in the balloons of their god complexes they were NOT happy. NOT happy. Of course it had started off badly. One oncologist was explaining what radiation treatment is and said how it's so much more refined and less damaging than 10 or 20 years ago. I remarked, "Is that what they're going to say 10 years from now?" It did not go over well. I don't regret a moment of what I said. I was polite but I would not treat them like little prince-gods. I was supposed to be the utterly passive, infantile recipient of their amazing treatments not a man in charge of himself and the ultimate authority of what treatments he receives.

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Yes, as ugly and damaging as it all has been, there's a lot of good coming from the opening of so many people's eyes to the lies and corruption that have always been there; although in not so blatant a form.

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yes, we need to embrace confirmation where we find it ~ as in, having one's suspicions confirmed.

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They're not jersey switching, though. They're making a whole new team that 1.) Shares 95% of the beliefs and strategies of their opponents but (and this is an important one) 2.) Can only be joined by people who were on their team in the first place. Meaning you had to have come to the realization about how pointless the NPI's were under their terms. You see, they were wrong in the right way and we were right in the wrong way.

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You are right in a brilliant way.

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I will never trust the medical profession again. I’ve also taken my name off the organ donor registry and the blood donor registry until they start giving medical treatment without discrimination.

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“the powers that be finally pushed parents too far and the mama bears are waking up to the devastation that’s been done to their children”

One of the most disappointing things to me in this whole calamitous Covid fiasco is that parents didn’t speak up earlier. What was being done to their kids was child abuse.

https://mobile.twitter.com/martinkulldorff/status/1303315364814745601

But most of them sheepishly complied, because Dr. Fauci told them to.

There was a lot of irrational fear in this pandemic, because of a virus that posed essentially no risk to kids and little risk to healthy adults. And there was a tremendous pressure to conform to the false and disgusting narrative that Covid posed a terrible threat to all of us.

And most people did conform. Including most MDs and parents.

I never worried at all about getting Covid, because I am neither elderly nor obese. To me the far greater threat was always posed by those who promised to save us from Covid.

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By the way, many thanks to El Gato and Rational Ground and Kulldorff & co who’ve been opposing or trying to divert the irrational, hysterical Covid freight train from the outset.

That train is clearly headed off a cliff.

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Unf***ing believable, welcome to the "Big Pivot". Do not forget, hold these people accountable...

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Most docs nowadays are employees, and they don't set corporate policy. So it's either do what you're told or you're out - and forget about hospital privileges, because corporate controls those, too. And they have ridiculous patient loads, which means they have as much time to think about what is happening with their patients as a public defender has to do the same with his clients. So of course they go along and play the game and get paid handsomely for it, but they're not practicing medicine in any real sense, they're just doing what they're told.

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You got me with the Shermie/Russell pic (go Hawks) but after reading the amazing post by Dr. Ritz, I am very emotional. 2 years ago when the new virus first started to emerge I had some great discussions about viruses with a close family member who is a microbiologist. She is the type that let her kids eat off the floor and didn't ask them to wash their hands because of the importance of early childhood microbes...... etc.... So in March 2020 I was confused when suddenly she was pro lockdown, pro mask and later the first in line for the vaccine. How could this be? One reason and one reason only. Her political party. Just in the last few weeks she is now saying what she should have been all along- masks don't work and covering your face for so long is harmful. But the 2 years that she was part of the cult was inexplicable. Could she really be so childish to give up everything she believes in because she didn't like the Orange Man? I will never understand and I will NEVER forget.

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And I'll be she blames the Republicans for "politicizing the virus". Not that I have any experience of that from my own circle or anything.

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Trump Derangement is real

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It's truly stunning to see, isn't it? So disheartening as well. Powerful forces at work.

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"...build your own ecosystems of information and trust.

the society you save may be your own..."

I wonder that this is the only way out. You know they will not ever admit they were wrong, they will claim their policies led us to victory, and now we're safe.

They will gaslight you about what did and didn't happen, and label you a terrorist and muzzle you.

We can not ever go back, I'm afraid. We only have the choice to rebuild our own society, and keep building our own new structures, our own new community and let them slowly fade away into their own lies.

Here we are, right, all of us at square 1. Kind of hopeful.

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Not the end, just one more dampening of the fear before "hiv/aids" infects us all!... well everyone jabbed 2 or 3 times anyhow...don't mention how that could happen, you'll find yourself a terrorist.

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How will credible Doctors( like Dr. Ritz) move forward?

I am curious ….

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One of my best friends finally snapped after all this insanity and in a moment of weakness committed suicide. I will never forgive these bastards for what they've done.

Now they will pivot and wash their hands and take their masks off and breathe freely and my friend is gone.

Nuremberg 2 can't come soon enough. No mercy.

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😥

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Have a look at this brilliant compilation of the totalitarian vermin Leanna Wen playing Covidian Chameleon:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1491793560307339269

These people are simply despicable.

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Excellent capture of the insanity and current backpedaling, and I love the doctors rant, although I’m culturally on an island separated from 99% of my siblings and long time friends, my new friends and I cry happy tears at the potential that we won’t be living in internment camps or hiding in the forest for the rest of our lives. 💜

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After WWII, people crawled out of their cowardly holes and announced they'd been members of the French Resistance. People called them "the mothballed ones" I'm sure people had to make terrible decisions about whether to fight based on what might happen to their loved ones, but these were the colluders and compliers.

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Question: where do we line up for class action lawsuits. It seems that fraud can easily be proven here with the vaccines.

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OK. But why not this rant earlier? To whom did she say stuff like this when doing so would get one banned? Is she speaking up now 'cause it's safe and the Evil Shrike won't ban her? Inquiring minds want to know.

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“THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated.”

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The breakdown of trust in core institutions and old structures has barely begun..."hold on to your butts..."

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They need to pay. They need to be held account. They need to stand before a Nuremberg II with the same sentencing guidelines as the original.

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American doctors can diagnose illnesses and perform surgeries. Healing people of sicknesses is a whole ‘nother thing. That’s been going on for a while.

Now that they’ve shown—in flashing neon—their truest colors, the misplaced trust is deservedly DOA.

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