Love this. Great framing of the issue. I think the most alarming thing the plandemic has revealed is the sheer number of latent tyrants and useful idiots roaming about the world. It's truly terrifying.
Silly Gato, assuming we share a goal of freedom in the first place.
We've seen enough rhetoric expressing outright contempt for "freedom" as a value that it should no longer surprise us when policies seem aimed at curtailing it. People like Arnold Schwarzenegger have been surprisingly transparent about what they think of freedom. Freedom is not even a value they pretend, through platitudes, to support now. Rather it is on its face something that runs counter to "safety" and "justice."
This is the bullet the petty tyrants have been shooting for at least decades. COVID heated the furnace and let them refine and forge it into a magical, silver, armor-piercing round: "your freedom puts me at risk."
The ticklish thing about all of this is the morality. The U.S. was founded on a certain set of morals: Christian morals. That was our backbone, and what inspired our founders to stand up to tyranny, even at the cost of their own lives. We still call ourselves a Christian country, but the truth is, most Americans don’t seem to believe in a universal truth or a higher authority than the state. We’re too in love with our little luxuries, and too dependent on our oppressive state.
And that is just how the state likes it. There is no bigger threat to a totalitarian state than Christians who truly believe that all authority is Christ’s, and that it is a *moral imperative* to stand up against tyrants. Unfortunately we don’t seem to have the faith or the courage to do that anymore. We just want to “be nice” and get along with everyone, and I fear that this niceness will be the death of all of us.
One of the stalwarts of the progressive movement, Pauli Murray, is perhaps most famous for saying this: "If you rip away everything, oppression is the business of not respecting one's personhood." I've reminded several of my "progressive" acquaintances of this statement in light of vaccine mandates and it's fun to watch the cognitive dissonance appear on their face. But that's about the only fun to be had in this otherwise Brave New World.
Nailed it. The combination of woke, safe-space Academia and TDS (trump derangement syndrome) has reduced people to carnal homicidal maniacs who’d love to see their neighbors in prison for being unvaccinated or having a MAGA hat.
matters of employment, in general in usa, the relationship is more like a loose contract. the term is "at will" which means either party can terminate the "at will" contract" for any matter.
nuremberg infers the same is true for military 'contracts', if the order is illegal or unconscionable the subordinate has duty to refuse/resign.....
if the boss gives an unlawful or heinously stupid order like 'get the vax' the worker has right and duty to self to resign.
i have resigned on a friday effective monday when i could not in conscience stay in the job.... not related to dangerous, experimental jabs that use new variants to hide their ineffectiveness.
Many Christians site Romans 13 as a reason to ALWAYS obey government, no matter what. So they shuttered their churches, or masked their congregation, or limited singing and worship. But God’s word is specific about government’s role to punish evil and reward good. If they role is not honored it is illegitimate.
Out government: killing babies good, using correct pronouns BAD. Rapists and criminals should be released GOOD, kids without masks or vaccinated BAD. Casual sex and porn GOOD, marriage between man and woman BAD.
This is not a Biblical government, it should not be honored.
As a New Yorker who has photographed street protests & marches since long before Occupy and witness to more than a few NYPD acts of unprovoked aggression it has been wonderful to feel the unspoken NYPD support for the No Vax Mandate marchers. It's the first time since post 9-11 subway search policy was instituted that the sight of the uniforms makes me smile. Of course FDNY has always been universally loved but engines flicking lights and adding friendly toots as they pass marchers is appreciated too. It's inspiring to see every other difference set aside and freedom become the unifying issue.
There are many who would much rather go along with whatever comes their way because they are emotionally opposed to creating a fuss as it were in order to maintain their own integrity. Unfortunately these lessons are lost quickly once the first person memory begins to die out. There is a good book about this phenomena as it relates to WW2 and the police force the Nazis used in Poland called "Ordinary Men; Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland". Unfortunately people can be convinced to do horrible things to one another if two premises can be met, make someone 'the other' and create a legality requiring said roughshod treatment. If one no longer believes in the others humanity, it is easy to convince someone to move towards more and more reprehensible treatment sadly
Here you have scratched the surface of the real threat these mandates pose. Indeed, it appears this is exactly what they’re designed for: to weed out any who might refuse to blindly enforce unjust and tyrannical dictates. It’s happening in law enforcement, the military, and every institution that might ultimately be needed to suppress an unruly populace.
In Chicago you "sow the wind and reap the whirlwind." The criminals are above the law and so is the mayor. Hypocrisy is the law of the day in the Windy city.
Let me see if I can understand the logic of the left... When General Milley went behind Trump's back to talk to the Chinese, he was considered a hero of the left (when clearly he is a traitor). When men and women who serve bravely stand up for their right to deny forced vaccinations by a wicked despot, they are unfit to serve because they are violating the "law." Yeah... that makes perfect sense.
Love this. Great framing of the issue. I think the most alarming thing the plandemic has revealed is the sheer number of latent tyrants and useful idiots roaming about the world. It's truly terrifying.
Silly Gato, assuming we share a goal of freedom in the first place.
We've seen enough rhetoric expressing outright contempt for "freedom" as a value that it should no longer surprise us when policies seem aimed at curtailing it. People like Arnold Schwarzenegger have been surprisingly transparent about what they think of freedom. Freedom is not even a value they pretend, through platitudes, to support now. Rather it is on its face something that runs counter to "safety" and "justice."
This is the bullet the petty tyrants have been shooting for at least decades. COVID heated the furnace and let them refine and forge it into a magical, silver, armor-piercing round: "your freedom puts me at risk."
The ticklish thing about all of this is the morality. The U.S. was founded on a certain set of morals: Christian morals. That was our backbone, and what inspired our founders to stand up to tyranny, even at the cost of their own lives. We still call ourselves a Christian country, but the truth is, most Americans don’t seem to believe in a universal truth or a higher authority than the state. We’re too in love with our little luxuries, and too dependent on our oppressive state.
And that is just how the state likes it. There is no bigger threat to a totalitarian state than Christians who truly believe that all authority is Christ’s, and that it is a *moral imperative* to stand up against tyrants. Unfortunately we don’t seem to have the faith or the courage to do that anymore. We just want to “be nice” and get along with everyone, and I fear that this niceness will be the death of all of us.
One of the stalwarts of the progressive movement, Pauli Murray, is perhaps most famous for saying this: "If you rip away everything, oppression is the business of not respecting one's personhood." I've reminded several of my "progressive" acquaintances of this statement in light of vaccine mandates and it's fun to watch the cognitive dissonance appear on their face. But that's about the only fun to be had in this otherwise Brave New World.
Nailed it. The combination of woke, safe-space Academia and TDS (trump derangement syndrome) has reduced people to carnal homicidal maniacs who’d love to see their neighbors in prison for being unvaccinated or having a MAGA hat.
Great points. If one wants to see what blind police obedience looks like, please see the jack-booted thugs in Australia.
matters of employment, in general in usa, the relationship is more like a loose contract. the term is "at will" which means either party can terminate the "at will" contract" for any matter.
nuremberg infers the same is true for military 'contracts', if the order is illegal or unconscionable the subordinate has duty to refuse/resign.....
if the boss gives an unlawful or heinously stupid order like 'get the vax' the worker has right and duty to self to resign.
i have resigned on a friday effective monday when i could not in conscience stay in the job.... not related to dangerous, experimental jabs that use new variants to hide their ineffectiveness.
Many Christians site Romans 13 as a reason to ALWAYS obey government, no matter what. So they shuttered their churches, or masked their congregation, or limited singing and worship. But God’s word is specific about government’s role to punish evil and reward good. If they role is not honored it is illegitimate.
Out government: killing babies good, using correct pronouns BAD. Rapists and criminals should be released GOOD, kids without masks or vaccinated BAD. Casual sex and porn GOOD, marriage between man and woman BAD.
This is not a Biblical government, it should not be honored.
these vaccine pushers are just like rapists.
They do not take no for an answer.
They do not listen to reason.
If you oppose them they use force to get their way.
And just like rape is not about sex, it is about power
these vaccine pushers are not interested in medical treatments it is about power.
If someone doesn't want you or what you are pushing you force them to do as you want.
As a New Yorker who has photographed street protests & marches since long before Occupy and witness to more than a few NYPD acts of unprovoked aggression it has been wonderful to feel the unspoken NYPD support for the No Vax Mandate marchers. It's the first time since post 9-11 subway search policy was instituted that the sight of the uniforms makes me smile. Of course FDNY has always been universally loved but engines flicking lights and adding friendly toots as they pass marchers is appreciated too. It's inspiring to see every other difference set aside and freedom become the unifying issue.
Emerson to Thoreau, who is in the town jail for civil disobedience—“What are you doing in here?” Thoreau’s response: “What are YOU doing OUT THERE?”
There are many who would much rather go along with whatever comes their way because they are emotionally opposed to creating a fuss as it were in order to maintain their own integrity. Unfortunately these lessons are lost quickly once the first person memory begins to die out. There is a good book about this phenomena as it relates to WW2 and the police force the Nazis used in Poland called "Ordinary Men; Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland". Unfortunately people can be convinced to do horrible things to one another if two premises can be met, make someone 'the other' and create a legality requiring said roughshod treatment. If one no longer believes in the others humanity, it is easy to convince someone to move towards more and more reprehensible treatment sadly
Here you have scratched the surface of the real threat these mandates pose. Indeed, it appears this is exactly what they’re designed for: to weed out any who might refuse to blindly enforce unjust and tyrannical dictates. It’s happening in law enforcement, the military, and every institution that might ultimately be needed to suppress an unruly populace.
Jenni‘s comments in your screenshot of Twitter proves that this is a pandemic of the uneducated
In Chicago you "sow the wind and reap the whirlwind." The criminals are above the law and so is the mayor. Hypocrisy is the law of the day in the Windy city.
Let me see if I can understand the logic of the left... When General Milley went behind Trump's back to talk to the Chinese, he was considered a hero of the left (when clearly he is a traitor). When men and women who serve bravely stand up for their right to deny forced vaccinations by a wicked despot, they are unfit to serve because they are violating the "law." Yeah... that makes perfect sense.