He also throws in the reference to vax status. Again, totally irrelevant to the discussion about reasons to mask. It's totally misleading and gives people a false sense of security when you characterize people by their vax status- vaxxed people can be infected and transmit as readily as unvaxxed. A way better question (but again one I…
He also throws in the reference to vax status. Again, totally irrelevant to the discussion about reasons to mask. It's totally misleading and gives people a false sense of security when you characterize people by their vax status- vaxxed people can be infected and transmit as readily as unvaxxed. A way better question (but again one I wouldn't advocate) would be to ask if a person had natural immunity. But the real fallback for showing respect to others is not to go out in public if you know you're sick and contagious.
This is one of the most harmful lies of this entire fraud: that unvaccinated people are toxic and filthy and to be shunned. This has divided people -- and plenty of brainwashed people I know (and love) continue to believe this lie. It allows vaccine passports to persist: I still can't attend concerts or plays or go to sporting events because I do not have a vaccine card. The vaccinated people like this policy because "it's no big deal" to show your card, and "I just feel safer, knowing I'm surrounded by responsible, vaccinated people." Often unspoken, but thought, is that unvaxxed people are probably Trumpers (wrongthink). Sometimes that's true, but very often not true. Vaccinated people like to assume without really thinking deeply. Every day, I learn of a new friend or neighbor who has been injured by their vaxx. It's so awful.
I'm in the same boat as you. It's funny how eating in a restaurant or going to any public venue has gone from being a right to a " privilege". I can't even get on a plane in Canada to travel within my own country.
I'm one of the few people I know who's unvaxxed. I'm also one of the few people I know who has not gotten the 'rona. Most of the people I know who are triple vaxxed have had it something fierce and most of them tested negative. (Chris Masterjohn just wrote about this over on his substack: https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/a-brand-new-study-on-pcr-negative?utm_source=url) I think what you say about vaccinated people assuming without thinking deeply is very often the reason they were able to subject themselves to the vax in the first place. But several I know did it just so they could be with family, which seems like the sanest reason to get it... I just pray that they will be okay.
You know Nancy, they found out all the way back with the Diamond Princess that ~81% of folks had a degree of cross-immunity against SARS-CoV-2 resulting from previous coronavirus infections. You are probably one of those, who had strong immunity. Others had partial immunity, got sick but not that bad.
Still though 'they' deny natural immunity... if I was a kitten, I might ask why... kittens after all have not yet had the life experience to develop cynicism.
Funny thing is, I almost never get colds or flu (except that one time I got the flu vaccine)... usually when I feel something coming on, I pound the zinc, vit C, echinacea and such and it's gone by the next morning. I guess childhood set my immune system up well... we played in dirt and put things in our mouths that hadn't been disinfected ... oh, and we didn't have 78 childhood vaccines on the schedule back then, either. 🤔 But yes, I think a little kitten-like curiosity would do the world a lot of good... which is probably why certain elements are trying so hard to kill it.
Most of the people I know are unvaxxed. Most haven't gotten sick, others got sick real early on and are fine now. The vaxxed I know also haven't gotten sick, but a few since the vaxx just don't feel well. ...chronically tired, headaches, some with heart problems.
Oof. Yeah, this is what I fear. I just assumed that so many vaxxed (that I know) were getting sick because they were running around enjoying the "privileges" that those in power had so generously handed back to the compliant. For instance, one caught covid in a mosh pit full of other vaxxed folks, who are the only ones allowed to attend concerts here. So I figured most just got a little reckless because they were ready to get back to life and assumed they were safe because the science™ told them so (and once you hear what you want to hear, by all means, stop listening!). But with all this omicron data, I've had to rethink that. I just really, really, really hope that the likelihood of long-term damage from these things wanes right along with their efficacy... and that the scales are pulled from everyone's eyes before the next round of boosters.
I agree, I hope that the long term damage wanes, but I must admit I don't believe it will. The new findings of the mRNA transcribing to DNA a sequence that can cause cancer was just another punch in the gut. 😧
Well, we don't need to unite with them directly. My point is, once we don't hate each other anymore, we will look for the root causes of our misery -- and we might find THEM.
Thank you. One of the reasons I didn’t trust the media is when they said everyone who didn’t want the jab was a trump supporter. I am not so they just pissed me off. I can’t believe how much they divided our country.
Even if you were a nurse (or maybe you are?) they wouldn't see it as a problem, regardless of staffing shortages, which were already rampant before the pandemic. There's a whole lot of cognitive dissonance going on and just as much scapegoating, so people like us are fair game atm. We don't deserve to feed or shelter ourselves, much less to receive medical care or be allowed to sit with a dying parent. I wish this were a simulation, but the evil seems all too real.
He also throws in the reference to vax status. Again, totally irrelevant to the discussion about reasons to mask. It's totally misleading and gives people a false sense of security when you characterize people by their vax status- vaxxed people can be infected and transmit as readily as unvaxxed. A way better question (but again one I wouldn't advocate) would be to ask if a person had natural immunity. But the real fallback for showing respect to others is not to go out in public if you know you're sick and contagious.
This is one of the most harmful lies of this entire fraud: that unvaccinated people are toxic and filthy and to be shunned. This has divided people -- and plenty of brainwashed people I know (and love) continue to believe this lie. It allows vaccine passports to persist: I still can't attend concerts or plays or go to sporting events because I do not have a vaccine card. The vaccinated people like this policy because "it's no big deal" to show your card, and "I just feel safer, knowing I'm surrounded by responsible, vaccinated people." Often unspoken, but thought, is that unvaxxed people are probably Trumpers (wrongthink). Sometimes that's true, but very often not true. Vaccinated people like to assume without really thinking deeply. Every day, I learn of a new friend or neighbor who has been injured by their vaxx. It's so awful.
I'm in the same boat as you. It's funny how eating in a restaurant or going to any public venue has gone from being a right to a " privilege". I can't even get on a plane in Canada to travel within my own country.
I'm one of the few people I know who's unvaxxed. I'm also one of the few people I know who has not gotten the 'rona. Most of the people I know who are triple vaxxed have had it something fierce and most of them tested negative. (Chris Masterjohn just wrote about this over on his substack: https://chrismasterjohnphd.substack.com/p/a-brand-new-study-on-pcr-negative?utm_source=url) I think what you say about vaccinated people assuming without thinking deeply is very often the reason they were able to subject themselves to the vax in the first place. But several I know did it just so they could be with family, which seems like the sanest reason to get it... I just pray that they will be okay.
You know Nancy, they found out all the way back with the Diamond Princess that ~81% of folks had a degree of cross-immunity against SARS-CoV-2 resulting from previous coronavirus infections. You are probably one of those, who had strong immunity. Others had partial immunity, got sick but not that bad.
Still though 'they' deny natural immunity... if I was a kitten, I might ask why... kittens after all have not yet had the life experience to develop cynicism.
Funny thing is, I almost never get colds or flu (except that one time I got the flu vaccine)... usually when I feel something coming on, I pound the zinc, vit C, echinacea and such and it's gone by the next morning. I guess childhood set my immune system up well... we played in dirt and put things in our mouths that hadn't been disinfected ... oh, and we didn't have 78 childhood vaccines on the schedule back then, either. 🤔 But yes, I think a little kitten-like curiosity would do the world a lot of good... which is probably why certain elements are trying so hard to kill it.
Most of the people I know are unvaxxed. Most haven't gotten sick, others got sick real early on and are fine now. The vaxxed I know also haven't gotten sick, but a few since the vaxx just don't feel well. ...chronically tired, headaches, some with heart problems.
Oof. Yeah, this is what I fear. I just assumed that so many vaxxed (that I know) were getting sick because they were running around enjoying the "privileges" that those in power had so generously handed back to the compliant. For instance, one caught covid in a mosh pit full of other vaxxed folks, who are the only ones allowed to attend concerts here. So I figured most just got a little reckless because they were ready to get back to life and assumed they were safe because the science™ told them so (and once you hear what you want to hear, by all means, stop listening!). But with all this omicron data, I've had to rethink that. I just really, really, really hope that the likelihood of long-term damage from these things wanes right along with their efficacy... and that the scales are pulled from everyone's eyes before the next round of boosters.
I agree, I hope that the long term damage wanes, but I must admit I don't believe it will. The new findings of the mRNA transcribing to DNA a sequence that can cause cancer was just another punch in the gut. 😧
The crimes against humanity just keep piling up. 😔
Yes, and I fear nothing will get done. This isn't the 1940s anymore.
They must keep us divided, fighting between factions. If we unite -- we come after THEM.
I don't trust them to unite with them. They're the ones that would defect or spy for the other side.
Well, we don't need to unite with them directly. My point is, once we don't hate each other anymore, we will look for the root causes of our misery -- and we might find THEM.
Thank you. One of the reasons I didn’t trust the media is when they said everyone who didn’t want the jab was a trump supporter. I am not so they just pissed me off. I can’t believe how much they divided our country.
Even if you were a nurse (or maybe you are?) they wouldn't see it as a problem, regardless of staffing shortages, which were already rampant before the pandemic. There's a whole lot of cognitive dissonance going on and just as much scapegoating, so people like us are fair game atm. We don't deserve to feed or shelter ourselves, much less to receive medical care or be allowed to sit with a dying parent. I wish this were a simulation, but the evil seems all too real.