education is a joke nowadays. you have to homeschool your children to have them learn anything it seems. everything needs to be built up from the ground again. several people on Substack write anonymous because otherwise they end up behind bars, arrested for speaking the truth !
I see your point, but just because someone uses a name as a handle doesnтАЩt mean it is their real name. AIs can create pretty compelling evidence of existence at low cost, so the value of using names is extremely low.
If an AI-bot shares good advice, promotes stories we like, how would this be substantively different than a truly anonymous actor?
I don't think that it is. You don't have to hand the pamphlets to people in person. Just leave them lying about.
We can be inspired by stories like "The Story of B" by Daniel Quinn. The Church sends a priest out to meet and learn about B, some guy spreading very unofficial viewpoints around town. So, of course, he's deemed The Antichrist. B just keeps moving and doing his thing.
The COVID and Global Warming Priests are just as devout.
I have a very liberal neighbor who often agrees with conservative values UNTIL he learns WHO the information came from. Arguably, this is what Gato is saying and I agree. Saddest part for me is the inability to discuss relevant topics today - like many, he was completely shocked and betrayed by the debate performance. I saw it for years and I see the lies and manipulation as they begin - it seems obvious to me. I see this anon business from both sides, but we are depressingly uninspired - and btw, this neighbor calls 45 The AntiChrist. Ugh.
It's like they can get so close sometimes, almost totally rationally, then they can't possibly accept that Those People might have some good ideas even if they don't have all of the good ideas.
If full anonymity is enabled anyone can choose to out themselves. It doesn't work the other way. There's no logical 'middle way' unless you think the author is arguing everyone should be forced to be anonymous with threat of imprisonment if you say your real name. And that would be a retard belief.
Maybe you should explain to them why both are important.
Maybe I'm wrong buy I don't think this approach helps the "cause".
I think a lot of the reaction people who object to anons is because they're ignorant. Plus many have paid a price to stand behind their convictions.
It's not that I disagree with you. I just think education works better than opprobrium.
education is a joke nowadays. you have to homeschool your children to have them learn anything it seems. everything needs to be built up from the ground again. several people on Substack write anonymous because otherwise they end up behind bars, arrested for speaking the truth !
i know. but the decision is personal.
and i don't think either choice should be taken personal.
i see too much of that....it's unnecessary
Is opprobrium next to unobtainium on the elements charts??ЁЯдФ
IтАЩm unsure that being тАЬanonтАЭ is even possible anymore. Plus, it gives rise to doubters who say тАЬhow do you know itтАЩs not AI?тАЭ
I see your point, but just because someone uses a name as a handle doesnтАЩt mean it is their real name. AIs can create pretty compelling evidence of existence at low cost, so the value of using names is extremely low.
I ask myself if I am a simulation all the time, and then think that if I am, I must be in beta.
*Opens Bug Report*
тАЬhow do you know itтАЩs not AI?тАЭ
If an AI-bot shares good advice, promotes stories we like, how would this be substantively different than a truly anonymous actor?
I don't think that it is. You don't have to hand the pamphlets to people in person. Just leave them lying about.
We can be inspired by stories like "The Story of B" by Daniel Quinn. The Church sends a priest out to meet and learn about B, some guy spreading very unofficial viewpoints around town. So, of course, he's deemed The Antichrist. B just keeps moving and doing his thing.
The COVID and Global Warming Priests are just as devout.
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/214579.The_Story_of_B
I have a very liberal neighbor who often agrees with conservative values UNTIL he learns WHO the information came from. Arguably, this is what Gato is saying and I agree. Saddest part for me is the inability to discuss relevant topics today - like many, he was completely shocked and betrayed by the debate performance. I saw it for years and I see the lies and manipulation as they begin - it seems obvious to me. I see this anon business from both sides, but we are depressingly uninspired - and btw, this neighbor calls 45 The AntiChrist. Ugh.
It's like they can get so close sometimes, almost totally rationally, then they can't possibly accept that Those People might have some good ideas even if they don't have all of the good ideas.
Exactly. It's shocking to me how incurious and ostrich-like so many are (I'm weary of sheep comments). :-)
If you think 45 id the antichrist, wait until 78.
You have one of these, Jim?
https://tinyurl.com/2nufxh9f
No, oh wait, we aren't talking about vinyl records?
*hangs head*
I'm sorry for not picking up what you were laying down there.
https://blog.electrohome.com/history-45-rpm-adapter/
One of the functions of writing is communication, another function is just throwing things out and seeing what happens.
I endorse that latter style. *nods*
That vinyl record player is very cool...7 in 1.
Damn you got me! Ok, I'll admit it. I'm really an AI. There's no fooling you Pi.
*taps temple* I knew it.
Yeah, but could you pass the Turing test?
Do not fear the Bot that can pass the Voight-Kampff Test.
Fear the Bot that fails the Voight-Kampff Test on purpose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umc9ezAyJv0
If full anonymity is enabled anyone can choose to out themselves. It doesn't work the other way. There's no logical 'middle way' unless you think the author is arguing everyone should be forced to be anonymous with threat of imprisonment if you say your real name. And that would be a retard belief.
How does it not work the other way?
Use your imagination