El gato, if you download the excess mortality data from CDC and *exclude* COVID deaths, you find that most age groups (especially younger) are *way* above average. There is one group that is down substantially however- the 0-14 group. Conveniently, the vaccine is unavailable until 12 years old. As soon as you go from 0-14 to 15-19 the deaths become something like 20-30% above average.
I made a spreadsheet with charts of all the age groups and was just stunned at the difference between the 0-14 group and all others.
Obviously there might be other explanations but it is very strange in my opinion.
Excess mortality in older groups might be better in 2021 due to high rates of covid deaths in 2020 in the less-healthy, so that this group is healthier in 2021.
I wonder how the by-sex ratios would compare in 2020, 2021, and prior years, and also for covid deaths. If the deaths are from covid spike (infections in 2020, vaccine in 2021), then we'd see comparable by-sex ratios in 2020/21, but not in prior years.
This is consistent with covid-spike injury, which would likely affect men more than women, given that men also die from covid at higher rates than women. This could be related to red-blood-cell density, which is higher in men than in women, likely making men more vulnerable to clotting issues. Be interesting to have more data: is this male/female discrepancy new to covid, or has it been the case prior to 2020?
It would be interesting to look at overall excess-death male/female ratios by age for 2020, 2021, and prior years, and compare male/female by age for covid...
I have a part-time post-retirement delivery job for a pharmacy. Been doing it for a few years. I deliver to every strata of society from the poorest to the very wealthy. Most of my prescription deliveries are weekly delivery to seniors, but occasional customers too. In the spring people were telling me how happy they were to finally get the Covid vaccine. Now, those people are disappearing from my delivery list at a rate I've never seen before. They are in the hospital or dead. In the past 2 weeks, 8 regular customers are gone - that is very unusual. I was in a condo building that looks like a regular multi-story apartment yesterday. The superintendent let me in because she was in the lobby cleaning. We know each other as I see her 2 or 3 times per week as a lot of the residents are seniors. We always have a 2 minute conversation about things like her dog, my cats, etc. Yesterday she was really upset because so many of the people in the building are feeling sick. She said, "Ever since they got the vaccine, they started to feel unwell". She was trying to convince me to get the vaccine in the spring, and was shocked that a person who worked for a pharmacy would not get it. Now she really regrets getting it - she is feeling sick too. One woman who I've delivered to since I started can now barely walk. She was fine until she got the vax. Nobody in the pharmacy is saying a thing about this, but the mood is very quiet.
It’s strange. When I read accounts such as this I find myself feeling torn. I BELIEVE what you are saying.
But I am a nurse and I look at my coworkers and wonder - why is no one talking about any of this? If I were to utter a negative peep about the vaccines, I can’t imagine what would happen. It is absolutely that “not done.” The only thing talked about now is whether or not someone got the booster. And yes, many are really excited about the damn booster. I just shake my head.
It is as if there are two separate worlds tumbling forward in parallel fashion. During the day, I am in one world, the hospital, where the unvaxxed are considered to be ignorant knuckle draggers who deserve to be punished in every way possible for not doing as they were told. At night I go home and cross over to this world where people and things go back to making sense. Where data is examined and logic and reasoning again take hold.
I think most people are too afraid to say anything, as you say, it is "not done". Most of the people I work with are full time, younger to middle age, and need the paycheck. I'm older, retired and doing this part time to get out and be connected to the world around me, so I have more leeway to observe with an open mind. Even then, I understand there is no point in speaking honestly at work as most people - including those in the medical field who should know better - get their information from the TV. Add to that the noticeable effect of social conformity to any dominant narrative - most don't want to be a social outcast.
Who knows how many of the people I mentioned were actually vaccine adverse reactions, but even if a fifth or quarter of them were, that added up all over the population would be a huge number. Also, in my world, most are older people that I deliver to, so they are more vulnerable. All I know is that I see an apparent correlation to the vaccine. The thing that struck me however, is that a pro-Covid vax superintendent has made the connection, and is blaming the vax for the people in her building getting sick. That left an impression on me.
The complete lack of curiosity, the unwillingness to question anything, is so foreign to our world in healthcare. We always did that. At least where I work. People constantly doing research, asking questions. So our current state of affairs feels disorienting to me. Unnatural.
There are a lot of nurses and doctors who hush about the truth. I am glad you still ARE a nurse, and hope you continue, because if what some professors say is going to come true, we will need all the UNvaccinated to care for the vaccinated !
Welcome to Cancel Culture! You have just been bullied into silencing yourself. This is what they call Groupthink. My only hope for you is that your vaxxed coworkers die quickly enough that your employers have no choice but to keep you employed with no lapse in work (because of President Brandon’s “mandate”).
Or you have squirreled money enough away for when you are eventually forced to take the vaccine or be fired.
Thank you for testifying. So far none of my vaxxed friends and family have gotten sick, but the only one who recovered from the virus, got the shot, and has gotten worse.
I believe it was a Dr Cahill that went through and discussed the CDC article about the first time mRNA vaccines were used on live animals. I think it was named Antibody Dependent Enhancement where the ones that got the vaccine and were then exposed to the virus developed severe reactions. The other way around works too.
Your observation is very important. Very odd that in the past 2 days, I've heard many accounts from delivery type jobs, with similar stories. Two are postal company workers and now you as a pharma delivery person. Then someone on FB said just in 24 hours found out 5 people he knew had died post jab.
Just a layman here, but I'm pretty sure that many types of heart, circulatory, neurological, and certainly other stuff like autoimmune disorders can develop for months or years with few or no symptoms. High blood pressure was called "the silent killer," for example. Even if a vax-taker turns hypochondriac, it seems likely that it'd be problematic to even diagnose many of these problems. For reasons that should be obvious, it would be hard to find a medic that would want to do such diagnostics, even if the patient would pay out of pocket.
Well, if it's a made-up story, at least it's more credible and original than the typical one that goes something like this: "I vaguely know at least three people only as friends of friends, or my hairdresser's brother-in-law's gardener's nephew, and here is an account of their [failure to get] vaccine-related illness and/or deaths, in excruciating medical detail that could only be known by a medical professional or the patient himself, yet here I am presenting it as God's honest truth." 🤪
My opinion about this NPR article is slightly more favorable of it.
I believe that they are saying "between the lines" what they are not allowed to say at all, but are now expressing the facts so that we can make a conclusion.
In other words, this is the wall of silence becoming broken. Fox News also started shitting on vaccines.
Not "allowed" to say?! What the hell has happened to Americans? Freedom of speech was always our proudest claim. Now we have our tails between our legs, like Canadians. Sheesh.
Another untouched issue in the NPR article - why are they short staffed? They devote a lot of words to the existence of the problem, but never mention if any reason why they are short staffed other than burn out. Could any of the nurses they so desperately need have been suspended or fired for not taking the vaccine? Seems like an obvious line of questioning, but not a peep in the article, which likely means the vaccine mandate has made the situation worse even if it doesn't send people to the ER. NPR just doesn't want to talk about it.
Excellent point. Applies to individuals and even supernatural entities: in the Garden of Eden story, God warned the humans that if they ate from the tree of life "on that day you will surely die." Later, the snake tells Eve "You will not die, your eyes will opened and you will become wise." Leave aside any questions of scriptural truth; right now I'm interested in the narrative value. Many such stories, even those three thousand years old, are masterful examples of storytelling. One possible lesson here is the problem of half-truths. God lied, because Eve and later Adam did not, in fact drop dead immediately, so it wasn't "on that day." Bet you never thought that God could fib! 😶 Meanwhile, the serpent wasn't exactly telling the truth either. Yes, men got wisdom, but they also got mortality.
They did in fact, on that day, die in the sense that their natures were defaced by sin, which would be passed down like a genetic disease to everyone. If God lied then he'd be as evil as Satan. And we'd be in horrible trouble.
I highly recommend this 1700y/o book by Athanasius. It is one of the most influential books I’ve read. It has stood the test of time, as CS Lewis says in the introduction to the book.
Constant masking (rebreathing exhaled C02) for long shifts with no end in sight must be taking some toll. Homeschooling is up nearly 50%. Who is staying home to maintain normalcy and protect young children? Add to this Vax mandates. It’s a perfect storm for medical staff shortages.
There is a very strange fanaticism here. What strikes me as a reasonable position is “those at significant risk from Covid ought to seriously consider getting vaccinated.”
A very unreasonable position is “everyone must get vaccinated, regardless of their own personal risk from Covid”.
We know that Covid poses a serious risk to a portion of the population, but not much risk to the majority.
Even Tony Fauci used to admit this:
"It’s so clear that the overwhelming weight of serious disease and mortality is on those who are elderly and those with a serious comorbidity: heart disease, chronic lung disease, diabetes, obesity, respiratory difficulties," said Anthony Fauci, M.D
We also know that, contrary to claims by public health officials and the media, natural immunity confers better protection than vaccines do.
“A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated.”
I’ve encountered prominent scientists who told me that ‘everyone is at serious risk from Covid’. But that clearly isn’t true. And yet they called me a “Covidiot” for pointing out that the risk to young and healthy people from Covid is small.
What’s going on here? When did scientists become propagandists? For them, it seems that “objective truth” just means that anything that helps them reach their policy objective is “true”.
I think that people, probably most scientists included, are heard animals. No one wants to stick their neck out. If you look at the progression of real scientific advancement over the years, many of the folks who made significant contributions, were ostracized, ridiculed, and generally dismissed as crackpots. Everybody wants to "fit in."
Martin Kulldorff deserves special commendation in my view. He resisted the herd and was indeed “ostracized, ridiculed and generally dismissed” despite his credentials and, more importantly, his cogent logic and evidence.
Yes, good point. I'd also include his colleagues in the "Great Barrington" tribe. Jay & Sunetra are also to be commended. Haven't seem much from Sunetra of late, but Jay is engaged and still pointing to the data with. He's a big pro vaxer (but seems MOST doc's are incapable of seeing vax's as a threat). However, his integrity on hewing to the data is always encouraging.
I often wonder if a lot of these doctors want to get their point of view across and can only do so if they first preface their comments on saying they took the vaccine. If you don't do that, you probably can't get heard anywhere. Imagine if they started by saying "I'm not about to get the vaccine and here are some reasons why."
There are some doctors/scientists trying, but I agree the vast majority are either drinking the kool aid or sitting on the sidelines afraid to speak out publicly. A few good ones: Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Michael Yeadon, Bret Weinstein, Geert Vanden Bossche. There is also a prominent German pathologist that has spoken about the crazy things he's seeing in autopsies. I know I'm missing some too.
All trying to speak out to be a reality check to the runaway train of insanity. "Fact checked," criticized, stripped of their credentials. They are all heroes. Oh, and any doctor that will prescribe Ivermectin for Covid (I'm not sure how many, but the FLCCC website lists them).
Fauci's response when asked about the Israel study was also complete BS.
"The one thing the paper from Israel didn’t tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what’s the durability compared to the durability of the vaccine.”....“So it is conceivable that you got infected, you’re protected, but you may not be protected for an indefinite amount of time,” Fauci said.
The study specifically controlled for the durability question by measuring infections during the same period from people that either got naturally infected or vaccinated during the same months so it showed that whether it was due to durability or robustness, or both, the protective effect was better from natural infection.
He’s just a pathological liar. It wasn’t long ago that he was saying that the best he could reasonably hope for was that vaccines would “mimic” natural immunity and provide comparable protection.
“Given that the body can make a good response against coronavirus, we feel cautiously optimistic that if we mimic safely natural infection with our vaccine, we will be able to induce a response in a person that would be equivalent to the response that natural infection induces,” Dr. Fauci said.
Later he started trying to mislead people into thinking that vaccination would provide better protection than natural immunity because he wanted to induce universal compliance with vaccine mandates.
"it seems that 'objective truth' just means that anything that helps them reach their policy objective is 'true'” -- yes. Scientists have biases that they recognize (e.g., they want grant money) and that they don't, and the people who report on the results of their experiments have biases. So science is great, but we're not doing it; we're getting a distorted view of the biased work of others. Now apply that lesson to a lot of other things, like climate change and even evolution. Start digging to get to the truth.
It was global cooling. Whoops, then global warming. Now it's "climate change". That's not science. It's a funding juggernaut for half-brights. Science has been turned for the general public into a miserable excuse for a religion.
Yes on another forum I made that exact point (children = close to zero risk) and the pro-vax opponent claimed 100 child deaths, possibly a valid number. Lacking anything specific, I suggested he check in a year or so and tell me what the statistics of pediatric cardiac, neurological, immune and other unusual disorders then would say.
Re: 100 child deaths: I was reading a hysterical piece in the NYT penned by the president of the American Academy of Pediatrics today (link at bottom) which made mention of the official stat. So far, for 2021, the CDC has reported 657 Covid-19 deaths in children (0-18 y.o.). https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3
Just for (a bleak bit of) fun and perspective, the National Weather Service guesstimates, based on 2009-2018 data, that ~270 Americans are struck by lightning in a given year. https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-odds
Thus, in a given year, kids 18 and under are ONLY twice as likely to die of Covid-19 than Americans are to be struck by lightning; but if one were beholden to the government, their employer, or the Covidian mob, they might have to insist that "kids 18 and under are AT LEAST twice as likely to die of Covid-19 than Americans are to be struck by lightning," magically turning Uncle Brandon's Kiddie Jabz™ (ages 5-11) into this year's Tickle Me Elmo.
People actually don't realize they sound like fanatical fundies when they say, "There is simply not an acceptable number of child deaths when such effective and safe preventive treatments are available." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/opinion/covid-vaccine-kids.html
As i recall, even that is a phony stat about child deaths as it doesn't distinguish between died FROM and died WITH the Wuflu. This is the crooked con they've been doing all along, claiming absurd numbers of cases and deaths by simply conflating anyone who tested positive with a person killed by the Wuflu (and bear in mind the positive test result is invalid in many cases due to the inability of the pcr test to distinguish between Wuflu and other strains and the ridiculous cycles run to gin up a false positive). These are evil people and nothing they say is trustworthy.
Imagine how much conflation you'd need to do if you were on a mission to whip people into mass hysteria based on their odds of being hit by actual lightning. "One lightning-strike death is one too many when it's safe and effective to BAN SUNSHINE!" Haha!!!
It's actually obesity that's the biggest risk factor for infection and death. I think the focus should have been treatment all along, not trying to vaccinate for something as slippery as the common cold.
"they lay out quite a lot of evidence that we have set our own house on fire, but fail to connect the dots."
Or, like Soviet journalists laboring to sneak the truth out around the limits of a repressive system, they've carefully given you all the evidence you need to connect the dots yourself, but protected their story against being suppressed by framing it in the approved narrative.
Glorious victory for stunningly successful Soviet grain ministry as production surges to 61% of quota, brilliant national grain commissar promoted to important position as deputy regional manager in Siberia!
Ha! I had to look that up, but it's perfect. Except when medscape publishes the occasional article by Vinay Prasad. I don't agree with him on everything, but he is definitely trying to keep his intellectual integrity.
He's been good at focusing on the masks and their terrible effects on children.
He has a substack that he's getting a little more active on now.
I used to follow him on Twitter, but he got completely crucified for a recent substack about the danger of totalitarianism. Since then I notice that he isn't posting much on Twitter, and locking more of his substack to paying members.
I'd love to support him, but I'm spread a little thin with paying on these substacks.
Chris, this is an interesting thought to ponder. How many of the "regular" journalists have seen a teeny bit of the light but they care more about keeping their place in society than being honest or digging into a mire that they doubt they can fix anyway. We'd be naive to think that journalists aren't recognizing how quickly people get cancelled for "coming out." Poor gato and eugypius, there's a reason they are anonymous.
You forget that journalists are assigned their stories. Probably anyone who wants to dig into things further is not assigned to Covid-19 stories anymore.
...and as Stochastic notes above, rare indeed would it be that a paid hack, excuse me, a journalist, would report anything that would not be flattering of a major advertiser. Usually not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds. "Follow the money." Oldest advice in the book.
Great example. I think Solzhenitsyn had similar examples, even blaming local crop failures or minor failures on capitalist saboteurs, even if the nearest Capitalist was a thousand miles away in a foreign land. Apparently foreign nations would do anything to discredit the Communist revolution, risking foreign agents to disable machinery in a factory or steal potatoes from the local collective. 😉
"Wreckers caused the Stakhanovite steel workers to fall short of their quarterly goal"... "Unvaccinated, vaccine hesitant, asymptomatic people infected with covid cause the infection and deaths of the vaccinated..."
A year ago I was curiously cautious about the vaccines. Now, I'm starting to think the freakiest predictions may have been closer to the truth - example Sharon Tenpenny that I think made the very bold speculation that everyone that got the shot would be dead in 5 years. It seemed bat-poop crazy at the time I heard her, but now it only seems mildly crazy.
Yes the people I know who insist on call8ng it a kill shot were too extreme for me. Then my frail elderly uncle died 2 weeks after getting the jab. Now all cause mortality is up everywhere, we have a whole new list of supposedly long haul symptoms that also dovetail neatly with vaxx issues, now I am thinking those outspoken folks were prescient.
Same here. I had put myself at the end of list to get vaxxed, but thought the most outlandish claims of death within x years were over-the-top nuts. Even from Bossche.
But it keeps happening ... The craziest claims keep coming true.
The leaders getting jabbed? They would have to be in on it or getting placebo? Brandon will be dead in 5 without it so no biggie there, but lots of much younger leaders are videoing their injections.
I've had a bad feeling about these shite shots from the time I learned how they work. Having some disgusting bat virus mRNA or DNA hijack your ribosomes so your cells can look just as ugly, never seemed like a sane idea. When you look at the faces of the inventors of these shots, you can see "psycho" stamped on them.
If you had a business that manufactured unique widgets, and you found a way to convince the government to force everyone in the country not only to buy one of your unique widgets, but to buy another one every six months for the rest of their lives, how much money would you be willing to throw around to protect your fabulous widget racket? (Assuming you're a sociopath.)
What if you made even more money for different widgets to repair the damage done by the widgets that people are buying every 6 months. I wonder if there is a new generation of blood-thinners in development at Pfizer, or Merck, or......
Extra credit: if you were a government agency that received funding from industry sources, was part of the revolving door of employment for senior positions, if your agency and associated universities held patents on many medical technologies that were developed at taxpayer expense and most importantly of all, you held stock of pharmaceutical makers for your personal accounts, yet a large portion of your putative job was to regulate said industries, do you think that you could do so in an impartial manner, placing science and the public good ahead of capitalism or personal greed?
Ironically, what you lay out gives me some hope that this is not some nefarious plot. For it it was about an endless supply of risk-free profit via shots every6 months, that would require alive people to get the shot. If your customer base is dying, your business plan goes up in smoke. For that reason, this helps me assuage the thought about a depopulation agenda etc....at least for now. But Gates IS a sociopath.
Incompetence CAN NOT be at the root of this disaster. Even inexperienced residents could not have gone down this road. Basic professional norms and practices have been abandoned. ☹️
So many of the people in government are basically untalented, not overly bright people who would never succeed in "real" jobs where they could actually be held accountable and fired, but this level of disaster (i.e. "disaster" from our point of view....but from their points of view this could all be considered a glorious success) cannot be attributed to just mass incompetence. I've observed incompetence, but not on this mass scale. I've come to increasingly believe a great deal if not most of this is deliberate and planned.
I literally cannot stand when someone is messing with my mind and telling me what I'm seeing is not real... Like so many of us may or may not be professional but we're familiar with past literature, common practice, etc. If it doesn't add up it creates confusion, frustration, in a sense of helplessness.
There was a Mirror article about "terrible colds for the double jabbed", describing people fighting for their life after colds. It mirrors experience with someone I know (I will be vague since my name is here), where a minor cold turned to a pneumonia for one formerly healthy individual.
this is a known effect of mRNA vaccines in animals. many had severe immuno-over reactions when challenged with actual (or similar) pathogen.
lots of corona viruses have spike proteins and can manifest similar on cell membranes.
whether these vaccines teach an immuno cross response that could be triggered by them (and make a mild cold into something much worse, esp by suppressing N protein antibody production through OAS is an interesting and open question.
This is correct. mRNA technology is not new, it is 20 years old. All attempts to produce working mRNA vaccines ended up hurting the test animals and making them terribly sick in ways you describe.
Thus the "terrible colds" may be caused by the immune system miswired due to short circuiting it with free floating spike proteins during vaccination.
What is worse is that the same suppressed immune cells (CD8 cells) that are destroyed during vaccination, are instrumental in also fighting cancerous cells before they can form a full fledged tumor. So the vaccinated very possibly have their main cancer defense destroyed. There are other defenses, like apoptosis, but still without the killer cells we may -- and I hope I am wrong -- see a cancer pandemic, which we will not be able to fight off since all doctors will also have cancers.
Only 80% mortality? Phew! You had me worried there for a moment. People need to realize that this civilization will collapse---mostly from blind, hysterical panic---if there is an 8% mortality rate within a relatively short period of time (say within a year or two) for those who took these injections. Considering the fragility, over-specialization and over-socialization of this system, I'm not sure if it can sustain a 0.8% death rate.
Thanks, Gato. I've been hoping you might write a piece specifically about the "terrible cold" that has run over the UK? My double-vaxxed (Jul/Aug) 20y/o son, otherwise healthy, went to hosp in middle of the night cos he couldn't breathe. They said it was a "chest infection". (He's taking Vit C & Zinc; but I'm getting him on D3.) An unvaxxed 59y/o mate (whose wife is double-vaxxed), also caught it badly; but he did squash it in a couple days as he's zincing etc.
Do you suppose then that it would be a good idea for vaxxed people to use ivermectin, zpak, etc when they come down with common cold? I think it might be prudent. And it's something that they didn't give the poor ferret and mouse test subjects of the mRNA vaxxes so it needs exploring
I am very optimistic and hopeful for the future. I think that truth will prevail, the unvaxxed will survive (not so sure about the vaxxed hut hoping they will be alright), and the freaks from WEF will be hiding in sewers.
But we need to do our part and spend 15 minutes a day fighting the Covid Tyranny Insurgency. It is not difficult. If we all do it, the mainstream lies will fall apart in two months.
Somedays I share your optimism, but on others less so. Still, there is no other choice; as you say, everyone has to keep chipping away at the narrative on a daily basis in their own way.
Same here. Basically, me, my son and a niece/her husband versus two dozen vaxxed. The niece is a nurse if that tells you anything. Half of the vaxxed had covid before getting the shot. Majority are Conservatives. Logic and courage have been abandoned. I hope they are right and I am crazy.
Many, Many people still believe this vaccine is "safe and effective," despite escalating side effect profiles, and the fact that the vaccine does not actually stop you from getting the virus.
When will people wake up and see these vaccines should be reserved for only the highest of risk profiles, and that mandating it for anyone is extremely immoral, and ineffective?
That is for the low levels. I believe the high levels are in on it because they can't see past their noses - don't realise their strategy will ultimately take them down too
From one of my Mexico trips, in the Aztec (or maybe it was Maya) "ball courts," players would play a ceremonial game and the WINNER was sacrificed! It was considered an honor. At least, that is what we were told.
Question: Can anyone provide an example of a country that committed such atrocities against its citizens public health that eventually owned up? And how that played out? It seems the Soviet Union never owned up, China hasn't. Germany got some traction with Nuremberg Trials. I'd like to hear more from others on this concept.
And with thalidomide, the FDA was instrumental in protecting Americans by holding off on approval. Just like they did yesterday - oh wait. Scratch that.
Well, in an odd way it's a good thing thay when the vaxxed start dying off or are too sick to enjoy their special freedoms, segregation will ensure they have only themselves & each other to blame.
And those of us who manage to survive all this can enjoy a heaping helpful of schadenfreude.
I don't want to go the route of enjoying the deaths of the vaxxed. That would make me as demented and evil as they can be, wishing the unvaxxed dead. This kind of societal warfare has the diabolical hoofprint all over it. This is brother against brother, and that terrifies me way more than the vaccines.
I have been the target of enough abuse by people I never harmed & who I presume are vaxxed, I have no problem shrugging my shoulders if & when they die. My friends I will mourn. My eldest sister I will mourn. Growing up I worshipped my middle sister, who responded by hating & actively sabotaging me for decades. Btw, she's a lawyer who threatened to take adhd kids away from their parents if they stopped ritalin that wasn't working & was turning their kids into zombies. She's not just a poor, brainwashed fool. She is an extreme leftist & part of the problem.
I'm not going to lie and say I don't have temptation to gloat when a loudmouth vaxinazi gets it. But those people can be such assholes I don't want to put my soul at risk with tit for tat. I appreciate your point of view. I am hated by a sister a year younger than I, who had to crow about what a great governor Cuomo was as I was driving her to the funeral of a brother. She knows I'm conservative. There can seldom be any real bond with leftists. They are often horrible people.
To take kids from parents who want to spare them from being turned into humorless drooling automatons by Ritalin... Evil. I taught at University for many years and the Ritalin dosed men had no sense of humor.
I don't equate feeling schadenfreude with gloating. My feelings of schadenfreude are internal & short-lived. The feeling arises on learning of the other's misfortune, I shrug, remind myself that karma's a bitch & let it go. Gloating strikes me more as external expression.
I also felt that - all this polarisation and family member set against family member. Made me go look up the verse. "In the last days......". And yes to that we can't go down the as-lamentable path of deriving pleasure from vax deaths.
That's what I was kind of thinking. Even Germany, I think, was pressured by the winners - yes? I'm not as educated on that as possible. Where are the "winners" to pressure the evil experimenters here? I guess Scandinavia, LOL. Where are the Vikings when we need them?
Well, if all these vaccine fanatic leaders actually did take the vaccine themselves (and I often wonder if they really did), and IF some of the dire predictions about what may happen health-wise to the vaccinated in the next 5 years comes to pass, maybe we'll eventually be rid of these criminals through a kind of natural selection provided by having taken the vaccine.
CMCM - I'm wondering if a lot of famous people, particularly young healthy men, didn't take it. For example, how hard would it have been for Tom Brady to tell his personal physician to make him a fake vax card? Or to just put saline in his? I can't imagine that guy would have trusted this vaccine. He's so fastidious about his health otherwise.
Novak Djokovic has famously refused as has basketball star Kyrie Irving. But after all that we have seen, would anyone be surprised if people like Fauci, Gates et al did not actually get the vaccine?
I can absolutely believe this is possible, likely, even probable. I think a lot of people are doing this, and I know for a fact that a lot of fake vax cards are out there. I've thought all along that a suspiciously large number of public figures (not only politicians, but also media people) have been falling all over themselves to say they had the vaccine "but they believe in the right of choice". Frankly, under the right circumstances that's what I would do....just say I had it to avoid discussion because I know with the fanatics you can't argue them out of their position, which is planted in cement.
CMCM, for me it's an ethical quandry. I wouldn't want to fake a card. HOWEVER, upon reflection, I absolutely would do it for my kids if needed.
And I might do it for myself if the time comes.
What made it crystal-clear for me: In a book (The Last Green Valley) a German woman helped a Jewish woman escape by helping her get forged papers to cross the border. To me, yes, this is a must. To lie to the Nazis that you are hiding a Jew? Yes, a must.
I'm maybe a bit old (45) to have to realize the gray areas, but there are some laws that must be broken in order to protect life. In fact, I can't believe I ever would have wondered if it would be OK to lie to someone to protect a life. I think I've had it pretty easy to live this long without having to face such a (false) ethical dilemma. As Jesus said to the Pharisees - You strain out a gnat and then swallow a camel!
When you are dealing with people who have no ethics and who are trying to control your life, you have to deal with things differently. I haven't yet encountered a situation in which I needed to lie about it, but I would do so without hesitation if the situation warranted it. Thus far, I don't discuss my vax status with anyone outside my family circle and a few others I know who think similarly. I'd be a bit apprehensive about whipping out a fake vax card, but I'm not ruling it out at some point. It depends on how things go.
But... But... When we roll over and play the game don't the bullies get empowered? I've thought of lying and saying yes I'm vaxxed but then I'm one of them. One of the sheep, afraid of consequences.
Zade, I hear you on this. For the time being, not only am I resisting and not lying, but I'm letting everyone I talk with know that the restrictions my job has placed on me due to being unvaxxed, and that my religious exemption "accommodations" could be taken away at any time. I am hoping the sheeple wake up and realize that people they ordinarily respect are suffering all across the world because of these mandates.
BUT, if the time comes that they are forcing these vaxxes on our kids without our permission - I think that is the ethical point at which forging a card is the right thing to do (for example).
The Pharisees were condemned by Jesus because they valued the letter of the law over the spirit of the law. And my 12 and 15 year old boys' hearts are more important to protect than my obedience to my ethics of always telling the truth.
I wonder what other difficult decisions we will be facing in the years to come? Food shortages - do we share if we have stocked up? For example.....
El gato, if you download the excess mortality data from CDC and *exclude* COVID deaths, you find that most age groups (especially younger) are *way* above average. There is one group that is down substantially however- the 0-14 group. Conveniently, the vaccine is unavailable until 12 years old. As soon as you go from 0-14 to 15-19 the deaths become something like 20-30% above average.
I made a spreadsheet with charts of all the age groups and was just stunned at the difference between the 0-14 group and all others.
Obviously there might be other explanations but it is very strange in my opinion.
Thanks so much for parcing this data for us.
Hey, time for you to start a substack!
Good idea. I think I'll make a post about this!
Thanks :-)
I can't comment on the post, comments are for paying subs only, but there is no option to pay :-)
It looks like weeks 31 and following might be affected by delayed reporting, given the significant drops.
Low mortality in the 0-14 group might be partly due to reduced sids/suds due to reduced pediatric vaccinations. https://www.ageofautism.com/mark_blaxill/
Excess mortality in older groups might be better in 2021 due to high rates of covid deaths in 2020 in the less-healthy, so that this group is healthier in 2021.
I wonder how the by-sex ratios would compare in 2020, 2021, and prior years, and also for covid deaths. If the deaths are from covid spike (infections in 2020, vaccine in 2021), then we'd see comparable by-sex ratios in 2020/21, but not in prior years.
Is that spreadsheet available anywhere?
It’s ok. The 5-11 age group deaths will catch up now that the Pfizer shareholders, errr… FDA has approved Comiranty for emergency use on kids.
This was true in 2020 as well as can be seen here: https://inumero.substack.com/p/covid-was-worse-for-men-covid-policy
This is consistent with covid-spike injury, which would likely affect men more than women, given that men also die from covid at higher rates than women. This could be related to red-blood-cell density, which is higher in men than in women, likely making men more vulnerable to clotting issues. Be interesting to have more data: is this male/female discrepancy new to covid, or has it been the case prior to 2020?
BTW, Covid vaccine heart injury rates are much higher in males than female.
Correct, but the numbers are worse in young people in 2021
It would be interesting to look at overall excess-death male/female ratios by age for 2020, 2021, and prior years, and compare male/female by age for covid...
I have a part-time post-retirement delivery job for a pharmacy. Been doing it for a few years. I deliver to every strata of society from the poorest to the very wealthy. Most of my prescription deliveries are weekly delivery to seniors, but occasional customers too. In the spring people were telling me how happy they were to finally get the Covid vaccine. Now, those people are disappearing from my delivery list at a rate I've never seen before. They are in the hospital or dead. In the past 2 weeks, 8 regular customers are gone - that is very unusual. I was in a condo building that looks like a regular multi-story apartment yesterday. The superintendent let me in because she was in the lobby cleaning. We know each other as I see her 2 or 3 times per week as a lot of the residents are seniors. We always have a 2 minute conversation about things like her dog, my cats, etc. Yesterday she was really upset because so many of the people in the building are feeling sick. She said, "Ever since they got the vaccine, they started to feel unwell". She was trying to convince me to get the vaccine in the spring, and was shocked that a person who worked for a pharmacy would not get it. Now she really regrets getting it - she is feeling sick too. One woman who I've delivered to since I started can now barely walk. She was fine until she got the vax. Nobody in the pharmacy is saying a thing about this, but the mood is very quiet.
Oh my goodness.
It’s strange. When I read accounts such as this I find myself feeling torn. I BELIEVE what you are saying.
But I am a nurse and I look at my coworkers and wonder - why is no one talking about any of this? If I were to utter a negative peep about the vaccines, I can’t imagine what would happen. It is absolutely that “not done.” The only thing talked about now is whether or not someone got the booster. And yes, many are really excited about the damn booster. I just shake my head.
It is as if there are two separate worlds tumbling forward in parallel fashion. During the day, I am in one world, the hospital, where the unvaxxed are considered to be ignorant knuckle draggers who deserve to be punished in every way possible for not doing as they were told. At night I go home and cross over to this world where people and things go back to making sense. Where data is examined and logic and reasoning again take hold.
I think most people are too afraid to say anything, as you say, it is "not done". Most of the people I work with are full time, younger to middle age, and need the paycheck. I'm older, retired and doing this part time to get out and be connected to the world around me, so I have more leeway to observe with an open mind. Even then, I understand there is no point in speaking honestly at work as most people - including those in the medical field who should know better - get their information from the TV. Add to that the noticeable effect of social conformity to any dominant narrative - most don't want to be a social outcast.
Who knows how many of the people I mentioned were actually vaccine adverse reactions, but even if a fifth or quarter of them were, that added up all over the population would be a huge number. Also, in my world, most are older people that I deliver to, so they are more vulnerable. All I know is that I see an apparent correlation to the vaccine. The thing that struck me however, is that a pro-Covid vax superintendent has made the connection, and is blaming the vax for the people in her building getting sick. That left an impression on me.
I bet.
The complete lack of curiosity, the unwillingness to question anything, is so foreign to our world in healthcare. We always did that. At least where I work. People constantly doing research, asking questions. So our current state of affairs feels disorienting to me. Unnatural.
There are a lot of nurses and doctors who hush about the truth. I am glad you still ARE a nurse, and hope you continue, because if what some professors say is going to come true, we will need all the UNvaccinated to care for the vaccinated !
Welcome to Cancel Culture! You have just been bullied into silencing yourself. This is what they call Groupthink. My only hope for you is that your vaxxed coworkers die quickly enough that your employers have no choice but to keep you employed with no lapse in work (because of President Brandon’s “mandate”).
Or you have squirreled money enough away for when you are eventually forced to take the vaccine or be fired.
Thank you for testifying. So far none of my vaxxed friends and family have gotten sick, but the only one who recovered from the virus, got the shot, and has gotten worse.
I believe it was a Dr Cahill that went through and discussed the CDC article about the first time mRNA vaccines were used on live animals. I think it was named Antibody Dependent Enhancement where the ones that got the vaccine and were then exposed to the virus developed severe reactions. The other way around works too.
Oh my gosh, How sad and shocking for you, and all of us reallly.
Your observation is very important. Very odd that in the past 2 days, I've heard many accounts from delivery type jobs, with similar stories. Two are postal company workers and now you as a pharma delivery person. Then someone on FB said just in 24 hours found out 5 people he knew had died post jab.
Just a layman here, but I'm pretty sure that many types of heart, circulatory, neurological, and certainly other stuff like autoimmune disorders can develop for months or years with few or no symptoms. High blood pressure was called "the silent killer," for example. Even if a vax-taker turns hypochondriac, it seems likely that it'd be problematic to even diagnose many of these problems. For reasons that should be obvious, it would be hard to find a medic that would want to do such diagnostics, even if the patient would pay out of pocket.
Satan's DOORKNOB?😂
Well, if it's a made-up story, at least it's more credible and original than the typical one that goes something like this: "I vaguely know at least three people only as friends of friends, or my hairdresser's brother-in-law's gardener's nephew, and here is an account of their [failure to get] vaccine-related illness and/or deaths, in excruciating medical detail that could only be known by a medical professional or the patient himself, yet here I am presenting it as God's honest truth." 🤪
How many NPRites will notice that the article just admitted that the narrative last year of overrun emergency rooms nationwide was completely false?
Ooooh, good point! I forget to notice those things, since to our ilk that info has been long understood. But new data for the sheeple!
My opinion about this NPR article is slightly more favorable of it.
I believe that they are saying "between the lines" what they are not allowed to say at all, but are now expressing the facts so that we can make a conclusion.
In other words, this is the wall of silence becoming broken. Fox News also started shitting on vaccines.
Not "allowed" to say?! What the hell has happened to Americans? Freedom of speech was always our proudest claim. Now we have our tails between our legs, like Canadians. Sheesh.
I hope that's the case.
Between the lines? Like "Let's Go NPR!" or something like that?
Another untouched issue in the NPR article - why are they short staffed? They devote a lot of words to the existence of the problem, but never mention if any reason why they are short staffed other than burn out. Could any of the nurses they so desperately need have been suspended or fired for not taking the vaccine? Seems like an obvious line of questioning, but not a peep in the article, which likely means the vaccine mandate has made the situation worse even if it doesn't send people to the ER. NPR just doesn't want to talk about it.
When it comes to media such as NPR, CNN, NYT, etc, the truth often lies in what they don't say.
Excellent point. Applies to individuals and even supernatural entities: in the Garden of Eden story, God warned the humans that if they ate from the tree of life "on that day you will surely die." Later, the snake tells Eve "You will not die, your eyes will opened and you will become wise." Leave aside any questions of scriptural truth; right now I'm interested in the narrative value. Many such stories, even those three thousand years old, are masterful examples of storytelling. One possible lesson here is the problem of half-truths. God lied, because Eve and later Adam did not, in fact drop dead immediately, so it wasn't "on that day." Bet you never thought that God could fib! 😶 Meanwhile, the serpent wasn't exactly telling the truth either. Yes, men got wisdom, but they also got mortality.
They did in fact, on that day, die in the sense that their natures were defaced by sin, which would be passed down like a genetic disease to everyone. If God lied then he'd be as evil as Satan. And we'd be in horrible trouble.
I highly recommend this 1700y/o book by Athanasius. It is one of the most influential books I’ve read. It has stood the test of time, as CS Lewis says in the introduction to the book.
https://www.world invisible.com/library/athanasius/incarnation/incarnation.2.htm
Accidentally deleted part of the link in previous post. https://www.worldinvisible.com/library/athanasius/incarnation/incarnation.2.htm
Constant masking (rebreathing exhaled C02) for long shifts with no end in sight must be taking some toll. Homeschooling is up nearly 50%. Who is staying home to maintain normalcy and protect young children? Add to this Vax mandates. It’s a perfect storm for medical staff shortages.
There is a very strange fanaticism here. What strikes me as a reasonable position is “those at significant risk from Covid ought to seriously consider getting vaccinated.”
A very unreasonable position is “everyone must get vaccinated, regardless of their own personal risk from Covid”.
We know that Covid poses a serious risk to a portion of the population, but not much risk to the majority.
Even Tony Fauci used to admit this:
"It’s so clear that the overwhelming weight of serious disease and mortality is on those who are elderly and those with a serious comorbidity: heart disease, chronic lung disease, diabetes, obesity, respiratory difficulties," said Anthony Fauci, M.D
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/fauci-offers-update-coronavirus-to-jama-for-clinicans
We also know that, contrary to claims by public health officials and the media, natural immunity confers better protection than vaccines do.
“A 700,000-person study from Israel two weeks ago found that those who had experienced prior infections were 27 times less likely to get a second symptomatic covid infection than those who were vaccinated.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/09/15/natural-immunity-vaccine-mandate/
I’ve encountered prominent scientists who told me that ‘everyone is at serious risk from Covid’. But that clearly isn’t true. And yet they called me a “Covidiot” for pointing out that the risk to young and healthy people from Covid is small.
What’s going on here? When did scientists become propagandists? For them, it seems that “objective truth” just means that anything that helps them reach their policy objective is “true”.
I think that people, probably most scientists included, are heard animals. No one wants to stick their neck out. If you look at the progression of real scientific advancement over the years, many of the folks who made significant contributions, were ostracized, ridiculed, and generally dismissed as crackpots. Everybody wants to "fit in."
Martin Kulldorff deserves special commendation in my view. He resisted the herd and was indeed “ostracized, ridiculed and generally dismissed” despite his credentials and, more importantly, his cogent logic and evidence.
Yes, good point. I'd also include his colleagues in the "Great Barrington" tribe. Jay & Sunetra are also to be commended. Haven't seem much from Sunetra of late, but Jay is engaged and still pointing to the data with. He's a big pro vaxer (but seems MOST doc's are incapable of seeing vax's as a threat). However, his integrity on hewing to the data is always encouraging.
I often wonder if a lot of these doctors want to get their point of view across and can only do so if they first preface their comments on saying they took the vaccine. If you don't do that, you probably can't get heard anywhere. Imagine if they started by saying "I'm not about to get the vaccine and here are some reasons why."
If only.
There are some doctors/scientists trying, but I agree the vast majority are either drinking the kool aid or sitting on the sidelines afraid to speak out publicly. A few good ones: Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Ryan Cole, Dr. Michael Yeadon, Bret Weinstein, Geert Vanden Bossche. There is also a prominent German pathologist that has spoken about the crazy things he's seeing in autopsies. I know I'm missing some too.
All trying to speak out to be a reality check to the runaway train of insanity. "Fact checked," criticized, stripped of their credentials. They are all heroes. Oh, and any doctor that will prescribe Ivermectin for Covid (I'm not sure how many, but the FLCCC website lists them).
The good Dr. Yeadon frequents these here parts on occasion.
Like Peter Duesberg, who called Fausti and NIH out on the HIV-AIDS mythology and paid a heavy professional price.
“Fausti”. Best one yet. 😂
Exactly!
Fauci's response when asked about the Israel study was also complete BS.
"The one thing the paper from Israel didn’t tell you is whether or not as high as the protection is with natural infection, what’s the durability compared to the durability of the vaccine.”....“So it is conceivable that you got infected, you’re protected, but you may not be protected for an indefinite amount of time,” Fauci said.
The study specifically controlled for the durability question by measuring infections during the same period from people that either got naturally infected or vaccinated during the same months so it showed that whether it was due to durability or robustness, or both, the protective effect was better from natural infection.
He’s just a pathological liar. It wasn’t long ago that he was saying that the best he could reasonably hope for was that vaccines would “mimic” natural immunity and provide comparable protection.
“Given that the body can make a good response against coronavirus, we feel cautiously optimistic that if we mimic safely natural infection with our vaccine, we will be able to induce a response in a person that would be equivalent to the response that natural infection induces,” Dr. Fauci said.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/fauci-cautiously-optimistic-about-coronavirus-vaccine-11591132326
Later he started trying to mislead people into thinking that vaccination would provide better protection than natural immunity because he wanted to induce universal compliance with vaccine mandates.
The CDC still admits this on its website:
“Most people who catch COVID-19 have mild symptoms…”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/about-covid-19/basics-covid-19.html
But saying this publicly can get you branded a Covidiot even by scientists and, potentially, expelled from social media as a “Covid denier”.
"it seems that 'objective truth' just means that anything that helps them reach their policy objective is 'true'” -- yes. Scientists have biases that they recognize (e.g., they want grant money) and that they don't, and the people who report on the results of their experiments have biases. So science is great, but we're not doing it; we're getting a distorted view of the biased work of others. Now apply that lesson to a lot of other things, like climate change and even evolution. Start digging to get to the truth.
It was global cooling. Whoops, then global warming. Now it's "climate change". That's not science. It's a funding juggernaut for half-brights. Science has been turned for the general public into a miserable excuse for a religion.
Yes on another forum I made that exact point (children = close to zero risk) and the pro-vax opponent claimed 100 child deaths, possibly a valid number. Lacking anything specific, I suggested he check in a year or so and tell me what the statistics of pediatric cardiac, neurological, immune and other unusual disorders then would say.
Re: 100 child deaths: I was reading a hysterical piece in the NYT penned by the president of the American Academy of Pediatrics today (link at bottom) which made mention of the official stat. So far, for 2021, the CDC has reported 657 Covid-19 deaths in children (0-18 y.o.). https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Deaths-Focus-on-Ages-0-18-Yea/nr4s-juj3
Just for (a bleak bit of) fun and perspective, the National Weather Service guesstimates, based on 2009-2018 data, that ~270 Americans are struck by lightning in a given year. https://www.weather.gov/safety/lightning-odds
Thus, in a given year, kids 18 and under are ONLY twice as likely to die of Covid-19 than Americans are to be struck by lightning; but if one were beholden to the government, their employer, or the Covidian mob, they might have to insist that "kids 18 and under are AT LEAST twice as likely to die of Covid-19 than Americans are to be struck by lightning," magically turning Uncle Brandon's Kiddie Jabz™ (ages 5-11) into this year's Tickle Me Elmo.
People actually don't realize they sound like fanatical fundies when they say, "There is simply not an acceptable number of child deaths when such effective and safe preventive treatments are available." https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/opinion/covid-vaccine-kids.html
As i recall, even that is a phony stat about child deaths as it doesn't distinguish between died FROM and died WITH the Wuflu. This is the crooked con they've been doing all along, claiming absurd numbers of cases and deaths by simply conflating anyone who tested positive with a person killed by the Wuflu (and bear in mind the positive test result is invalid in many cases due to the inability of the pcr test to distinguish between Wuflu and other strains and the ridiculous cycles run to gin up a false positive). These are evil people and nothing they say is trustworthy.
Imagine how much conflation you'd need to do if you were on a mission to whip people into mass hysteria based on their odds of being hit by actual lightning. "One lightning-strike death is one too many when it's safe and effective to BAN SUNSHINE!" Haha!!!
Don’t give these freaks any ideas! lol
LOL!!
It's actually obesity that's the biggest risk factor for infection and death. I think the focus should have been treatment all along, not trying to vaccinate for something as slippery as the common cold.
Psychosis, or mass hypnosis.
Yeah, and with a bit of Stockholm Syndrome thrown in, for flavor.
I call it group think.
"they lay out quite a lot of evidence that we have set our own house on fire, but fail to connect the dots."
Or, like Soviet journalists laboring to sneak the truth out around the limits of a repressive system, they've carefully given you all the evidence you need to connect the dots yourself, but protected their story against being suppressed by framing it in the approved narrative.
Glorious victory for stunningly successful Soviet grain ministry as production surges to 61% of quota, brilliant national grain commissar promoted to important position as deputy regional manager in Siberia!
I think we're going to see more and more of this.
I follow Medscape, and one of the comments by a physician was "You should change your name to the Pravda of Medicine". Lots and lots of awake doctors.
Ha! I had to look that up, but it's perfect. Except when medscape publishes the occasional article by Vinay Prasad. I don't agree with him on everything, but he is definitely trying to keep his intellectual integrity.
I watch his YouTube channel. It's great. Yeah I don't agree with everything he says but he explains and defends his points fairly.
He's been good at focusing on the masks and their terrible effects on children.
He has a substack that he's getting a little more active on now.
I used to follow him on Twitter, but he got completely crucified for a recent substack about the danger of totalitarianism. Since then I notice that he isn't posting much on Twitter, and locking more of his substack to paying members.
I'd love to support him, but I'm spread a little thin with paying on these substacks.
Yeah, substack needs a better model...I can't pay everyone $5/mo!
I'm on a different angle: I would gladly pay for content, but (for example) Gato Malo does not seem to have a way to pay him. Odd!
Chris, this is an interesting thought to ponder. How many of the "regular" journalists have seen a teeny bit of the light but they care more about keeping their place in society than being honest or digging into a mire that they doubt they can fix anyway. We'd be naive to think that journalists aren't recognizing how quickly people get cancelled for "coming out." Poor gato and eugypius, there's a reason they are anonymous.
Lots of pharma ads in the media these days.
You forget that journalists are assigned their stories. Probably anyone who wants to dig into things further is not assigned to Covid-19 stories anymore.
...and as Stochastic notes above, rare indeed would it be that a paid hack, excuse me, a journalist, would report anything that would not be flattering of a major advertiser. Usually not a good idea to bite the hand that feeds. "Follow the money." Oldest advice in the book.
Great example. I think Solzhenitsyn had similar examples, even blaming local crop failures or minor failures on capitalist saboteurs, even if the nearest Capitalist was a thousand miles away in a foreign land. Apparently foreign nations would do anything to discredit the Communist revolution, risking foreign agents to disable machinery in a factory or steal potatoes from the local collective. 😉
"Wreckers caused the Stakhanovite steel workers to fall short of their quarterly goal"... "Unvaccinated, vaccine hesitant, asymptomatic people infected with covid cause the infection and deaths of the vaccinated..."
A year ago I was curiously cautious about the vaccines. Now, I'm starting to think the freakiest predictions may have been closer to the truth - example Sharon Tenpenny that I think made the very bold speculation that everyone that got the shot would be dead in 5 years. It seemed bat-poop crazy at the time I heard her, but now it only seems mildly crazy.
Yes the people I know who insist on call8ng it a kill shot were too extreme for me. Then my frail elderly uncle died 2 weeks after getting the jab. Now all cause mortality is up everywhere, we have a whole new list of supposedly long haul symptoms that also dovetail neatly with vaxx issues, now I am thinking those outspoken folks were prescient.
Same here. I had put myself at the end of list to get vaxxed, but thought the most outlandish claims of death within x years were over-the-top nuts. Even from Bossche.
But it keeps happening ... The craziest claims keep coming true.
The leaders getting jabbed? They would have to be in on it or getting placebo? Brandon will be dead in 5 without it so no biggie there, but lots of much younger leaders are videoing their injections.
I've had a bad feeling about these shite shots from the time I learned how they work. Having some disgusting bat virus mRNA or DNA hijack your ribosomes so your cells can look just as ugly, never seemed like a sane idea. When you look at the faces of the inventors of these shots, you can see "psycho" stamped on them.
If you had a business that manufactured unique widgets, and you found a way to convince the government to force everyone in the country not only to buy one of your unique widgets, but to buy another one every six months for the rest of their lives, how much money would you be willing to throw around to protect your fabulous widget racket? (Assuming you're a sociopath.)
What if you made even more money for different widgets to repair the damage done by the widgets that people are buying every 6 months. I wonder if there is a new generation of blood-thinners in development at Pfizer, or Merck, or......
Extra credit: if you were a government agency that received funding from industry sources, was part of the revolving door of employment for senior positions, if your agency and associated universities held patents on many medical technologies that were developed at taxpayer expense and most importantly of all, you held stock of pharmaceutical makers for your personal accounts, yet a large portion of your putative job was to regulate said industries, do you think that you could do so in an impartial manner, placing science and the public good ahead of capitalism or personal greed?
Ironically, what you lay out gives me some hope that this is not some nefarious plot. For it it was about an endless supply of risk-free profit via shots every6 months, that would require alive people to get the shot. If your customer base is dying, your business plan goes up in smoke. For that reason, this helps me assuage the thought about a depopulation agenda etc....at least for now. But Gates IS a sociopath.
Incompetence CAN NOT be at the root of this disaster. Even inexperienced residents could not have gone down this road. Basic professional norms and practices have been abandoned. ☹️
So many of the people in government are basically untalented, not overly bright people who would never succeed in "real" jobs where they could actually be held accountable and fired, but this level of disaster (i.e. "disaster" from our point of view....but from their points of view this could all be considered a glorious success) cannot be attributed to just mass incompetence. I've observed incompetence, but not on this mass scale. I've come to increasingly believe a great deal if not most of this is deliberate and planned.
I literally cannot stand when someone is messing with my mind and telling me what I'm seeing is not real... Like so many of us may or may not be professional but we're familiar with past literature, common practice, etc. If it doesn't add up it creates confusion, frustration, in a sense of helplessness.
It's called gaslighting.
Great article!
There was a Mirror article about "terrible colds for the double jabbed", describing people fighting for their life after colds. It mirrors experience with someone I know (I will be vague since my name is here), where a minor cold turned to a pneumonia for one formerly healthy individual.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-jabbed-brits-suffering-worst-25179317
I also wrote a Covid Tyranny Insurgency Manual, describing how we can go out, interactwith people we do NOT know, and fight tyranny effectively.
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/covid-tyranny-insurgency-manual
It describes things we can do to rescue people from the Covid Cult.
this is a known effect of mRNA vaccines in animals. many had severe immuno-over reactions when challenged with actual (or similar) pathogen.
lots of corona viruses have spike proteins and can manifest similar on cell membranes.
whether these vaccines teach an immuno cross response that could be triggered by them (and make a mild cold into something much worse, esp by suppressing N protein antibody production through OAS is an interesting and open question.
This is correct. mRNA technology is not new, it is 20 years old. All attempts to produce working mRNA vaccines ended up hurting the test animals and making them terribly sick in ways you describe.
Thus the "terrible colds" may be caused by the immune system miswired due to short circuiting it with free floating spike proteins during vaccination.
What is worse is that the same suppressed immune cells (CD8 cells) that are destroyed during vaccination, are instrumental in also fighting cancerous cells before they can form a full fledged tumor. So the vaccinated very possibly have their main cancer defense destroyed. There are other defenses, like apoptosis, but still without the killer cells we may -- and I hope I am wrong -- see a cancer pandemic, which we will not be able to fight off since all doctors will also have cancers.
A weird future is awaiting us.
Also they will make the UNvaccinated pay for all the vaccinated immune, cancer treatments and endless ER visits.
"But we were selfless during the pandemic and the unvaxxed were so SELFISH", so you should pay for our treatments now.
Igor - are there any follow up studies on those animals (the cats, the ferrets, the baboons, etc) to see how LONG the immuno-sabatoge lasted?
Uh, they all died....
Iris, that is not true.
In some studies there was 80% death, but even in those they didn't all die.
Well until the scientists sacrificed them to look at their lungs.
Only 80% mortality? Phew! You had me worried there for a moment. People need to realize that this civilization will collapse---mostly from blind, hysterical panic---if there is an 8% mortality rate within a relatively short period of time (say within a year or two) for those who took these injections. Considering the fragility, over-specialization and over-socialization of this system, I'm not sure if it can sustain a 0.8% death rate.
Do you have a link to it?
Thanks, Gato. I've been hoping you might write a piece specifically about the "terrible cold" that has run over the UK? My double-vaxxed (Jul/Aug) 20y/o son, otherwise healthy, went to hosp in middle of the night cos he couldn't breathe. They said it was a "chest infection". (He's taking Vit C & Zinc; but I'm getting him on D3.) An unvaxxed 59y/o mate (whose wife is double-vaxxed), also caught it badly; but he did squash it in a couple days as he's zincing etc.
Hi! Your experience mirrors experience of someone I know to the T! Also 20 year old, had a minor cold that turned into bacterial pneumonia!!!
He was not alone, his vaxxed dorm-mates had same pneumonia also! All previously healthy young men, double vaxed of course.
Mr. Bad Cat- My attempt to look further at ED Visits and Vaccinations. TLDR: Unless ED visits always rise Feb-Jul, the correlation between the jabs and increased non-COVID ED visits. https://inumero.substack.com/p/looking-at-ed-visits-vs-vaccinations?r=tv61s&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&utm_source=chrome
Do you suppose then that it would be a good idea for vaxxed people to use ivermectin, zpak, etc when they come down with common cold? I think it might be prudent. And it's something that they didn't give the poor ferret and mouse test subjects of the mRNA vaxxes so it needs exploring
Thanks! There is also this site about how to reach people: https://www.reachingpeople.co.uk/
Thanks, I will read it and maybe incorporate something.
I am very optimistic and hopeful for the future. I think that truth will prevail, the unvaxxed will survive (not so sure about the vaxxed hut hoping they will be alright), and the freaks from WEF will be hiding in sewers.
But we need to do our part and spend 15 minutes a day fighting the Covid Tyranny Insurgency. It is not difficult. If we all do it, the mainstream lies will fall apart in two months.
Just do not sit quietly.
Even us retirees do our part, even if it is spreading our "misinformation" in various corners of the internet we haven't yet been kicked out of.
Yep, spend your 15 minutes a day, you may be saving one life per day!
Somedays I share your optimism, but on others less so. Still, there is no other choice; as you say, everyone has to keep chipping away at the narrative on a daily basis in their own way.
Yes, find your way and spend 15 minutes a day!
I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right. I have way too many vaxxed family members for this not to be a nightmare in the making.
I'm one of only four in my very large extended family that's unvaxxed. I'm praying I'm wrong about everything.
Same here. Basically, me, my son and a niece/her husband versus two dozen vaxxed. The niece is a nurse if that tells you anything. Half of the vaxxed had covid before getting the shot. Majority are Conservatives. Logic and courage have been abandoned. I hope they are right and I am crazy.
Many, Many people still believe this vaccine is "safe and effective," despite escalating side effect profiles, and the fact that the vaccine does not actually stop you from getting the virus.
When will people wake up and see these vaccines should be reserved for only the highest of risk profiles, and that mandating it for anyone is extremely immoral, and ineffective?
Once the decision was made, politicians can never admit error. So the abuse will continue. Avoiding truth requires strong will.
The beatings will continue until morale improves. aka, They have no exit plan except to try to get 100% compliance to any and all mandates.
If they were to actually get 100% compliance as they claim they want, I wonder what the next part of the plan would be?
That is for the low levels. I believe the high levels are in on it because they can't see past their noses - don't realise their strategy will ultimately take them down too
They are totally "safe and effective" for pharma: tons of revenue and no liability.
Except from what I've read the high risk profiles are ad much ay fisk from the vaxes as the disease.
Are they? Where have you read that? The only person I know who had a very bad shot reaction was in the high risk profile (age).
When the frailest elderly died from the shots. They stopped giving them to the frailest when they were dropping like flies ...
I believe they are “100% safe and effective” although no one in the politburo using that one these days
It's like Aztecs sacrificing a few more hundred, cuz for some reason it's still not raining 😂😂
From one of my Mexico trips, in the Aztec (or maybe it was Maya) "ball courts," players would play a ceremonial game and the WINNER was sacrificed! It was considered an honor. At least, that is what we were told.
Probably Maya... Many of them were captured VIPs 😁 somebody had to serve the purpose of pleasing the Gods. We are the sacrificed, in this time 😂
It was Mayans who did that.
At least we don’t have to watch those nurses doing their dancing tik tok videos any more
Question: Can anyone provide an example of a country that committed such atrocities against its citizens public health that eventually owned up? And how that played out? It seems the Soviet Union never owned up, China hasn't. Germany got some traction with Nuremberg Trials. I'd like to hear more from others on this concept.
thalidomide springs to mind.
but no, no one ever goes to jail. at beast, they accept liability for damage and hide behind immunity.
And with thalidomide, the FDA was instrumental in protecting Americans by holding off on approval. Just like they did yesterday - oh wait. Scratch that.
Being a radical leftist or Marxist means never having to say you're sorry.
We owned up to the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. It's just that we owned up too late to help the victims for the most part.
Good Lordt, she said it out loud!
Well, in an odd way it's a good thing thay when the vaxxed start dying off or are too sick to enjoy their special freedoms, segregation will ensure they have only themselves & each other to blame.
And those of us who manage to survive all this can enjoy a heaping helpful of schadenfreude.
I don't want to go the route of enjoying the deaths of the vaxxed. That would make me as demented and evil as they can be, wishing the unvaxxed dead. This kind of societal warfare has the diabolical hoofprint all over it. This is brother against brother, and that terrifies me way more than the vaccines.
I have been the target of enough abuse by people I never harmed & who I presume are vaxxed, I have no problem shrugging my shoulders if & when they die. My friends I will mourn. My eldest sister I will mourn. Growing up I worshipped my middle sister, who responded by hating & actively sabotaging me for decades. Btw, she's a lawyer who threatened to take adhd kids away from their parents if they stopped ritalin that wasn't working & was turning their kids into zombies. She's not just a poor, brainwashed fool. She is an extreme leftist & part of the problem.
I'm not going to lie and say I don't have temptation to gloat when a loudmouth vaxinazi gets it. But those people can be such assholes I don't want to put my soul at risk with tit for tat. I appreciate your point of view. I am hated by a sister a year younger than I, who had to crow about what a great governor Cuomo was as I was driving her to the funeral of a brother. She knows I'm conservative. There can seldom be any real bond with leftists. They are often horrible people.
To take kids from parents who want to spare them from being turned into humorless drooling automatons by Ritalin... Evil. I taught at University for many years and the Ritalin dosed men had no sense of humor.
I don't equate feeling schadenfreude with gloating. My feelings of schadenfreude are internal & short-lived. The feeling arises on learning of the other's misfortune, I shrug, remind myself that karma's a bitch & let it go. Gloating strikes me more as external expression.
I also felt that - all this polarisation and family member set against family member. Made me go look up the verse. "In the last days......". And yes to that we can't go down the as-lamentable path of deriving pleasure from vax deaths.
That's what I was kind of thinking. Even Germany, I think, was pressured by the winners - yes? I'm not as educated on that as possible. Where are the "winners" to pressure the evil experimenters here? I guess Scandinavia, LOL. Where are the Vikings when we need them?
Well, if all these vaccine fanatic leaders actually did take the vaccine themselves (and I often wonder if they really did), and IF some of the dire predictions about what may happen health-wise to the vaccinated in the next 5 years comes to pass, maybe we'll eventually be rid of these criminals through a kind of natural selection provided by having taken the vaccine.
CMCM - I'm wondering if a lot of famous people, particularly young healthy men, didn't take it. For example, how hard would it have been for Tom Brady to tell his personal physician to make him a fake vax card? Or to just put saline in his? I can't imagine that guy would have trusted this vaccine. He's so fastidious about his health otherwise.
Novak Djokovic has famously refused as has basketball star Kyrie Irving. But after all that we have seen, would anyone be surprised if people like Fauci, Gates et al did not actually get the vaccine?
I'm pretty sure Canada's first little girl Prime Minister, Trudeau, got a fake shot. And his wife.
That little girl really likes his blackface...
Djokovic has been based this entire time. Last year he was like, "I'm just going to hurry up and get COVID and get this over with."
I can absolutely believe this is possible, likely, even probable. I think a lot of people are doing this, and I know for a fact that a lot of fake vax cards are out there. I've thought all along that a suspiciously large number of public figures (not only politicians, but also media people) have been falling all over themselves to say they had the vaccine "but they believe in the right of choice". Frankly, under the right circumstances that's what I would do....just say I had it to avoid discussion because I know with the fanatics you can't argue them out of their position, which is planted in cement.
CMCM, for me it's an ethical quandry. I wouldn't want to fake a card. HOWEVER, upon reflection, I absolutely would do it for my kids if needed.
And I might do it for myself if the time comes.
What made it crystal-clear for me: In a book (The Last Green Valley) a German woman helped a Jewish woman escape by helping her get forged papers to cross the border. To me, yes, this is a must. To lie to the Nazis that you are hiding a Jew? Yes, a must.
I'm maybe a bit old (45) to have to realize the gray areas, but there are some laws that must be broken in order to protect life. In fact, I can't believe I ever would have wondered if it would be OK to lie to someone to protect a life. I think I've had it pretty easy to live this long without having to face such a (false) ethical dilemma. As Jesus said to the Pharisees - You strain out a gnat and then swallow a camel!
When you are dealing with people who have no ethics and who are trying to control your life, you have to deal with things differently. I haven't yet encountered a situation in which I needed to lie about it, but I would do so without hesitation if the situation warranted it. Thus far, I don't discuss my vax status with anyone outside my family circle and a few others I know who think similarly. I'd be a bit apprehensive about whipping out a fake vax card, but I'm not ruling it out at some point. It depends on how things go.
But... But... When we roll over and play the game don't the bullies get empowered? I've thought of lying and saying yes I'm vaxxed but then I'm one of them. One of the sheep, afraid of consequences.
Zade, I hear you on this. For the time being, not only am I resisting and not lying, but I'm letting everyone I talk with know that the restrictions my job has placed on me due to being unvaxxed, and that my religious exemption "accommodations" could be taken away at any time. I am hoping the sheeple wake up and realize that people they ordinarily respect are suffering all across the world because of these mandates.
BUT, if the time comes that they are forcing these vaxxes on our kids without our permission - I think that is the ethical point at which forging a card is the right thing to do (for example).
The Pharisees were condemned by Jesus because they valued the letter of the law over the spirit of the law. And my 12 and 15 year old boys' hearts are more important to protect than my obedience to my ethics of always telling the truth.
I wonder what other difficult decisions we will be facing in the years to come? Food shortages - do we share if we have stocked up? For example.....
The fanatics they helped create.
I got suspended from the bluebird for this:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral
All those points seem reasonably written. Instead of refuting them, they just censor 😡