“We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
That's a hard slog - many people are mentioning "They thought they were free" 1930s Germany and Germans Milton Mayer - Russian and Russians are inscrutable - "Asiatic" - Germans are us
Solzhenitsyn lived with his family in Vermont (my state) for over 20 years. He returned to Russia in 1994. I figure Vermont was just too commie for him.
I saw his son Ignat make his debut with the Philadelphia Orchestra. His career never really panned out though. Classical music ain't what it used to be.
4+ years of them lying about Trump in a world where anyone can see the original unedited videos of him speaking on Youtube is what initially woke me up. I'm not even American nor a Trump fan nor should this matter. I'm a fan of FACTS and TRUTH not outright lies.
The constant push for vaccines without even discussing natural immunity and the vilification of those like myself who have legitimate concerns are all just fuel on the fire.
You should spend time looking at the media contradicting themselves. I've been watching that for 20 years.
Hey, find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? Phil Donahue was fired from his top rated show because he wasn't certain the claim was true...
Trump had his problems but one thing I will be ETERNALLY grateful is he did what I wanted to do for 2 decades. He got people to see the American news media for what it actually is. It's propaganda. It's been pure propaganda for at least 20 years, probably 30, quite possibly, my entire life.
This is sort of like when they started poking around the mask question. They found that the anti-maskers knew the data far better than the other side, and was ready with facts from public sources to back up their assertions. So it is with those who don't want this shot.
The perpetrators who initiated this couldn’t have got this far without mass media to stab people with the narrative AND the tech industry without which they couldn’t have censored people like me & many others.
Indeed. I’ve been banned for three days from a local neighborhood group for sharing vaccine misinformation. You know that means I shared valid data. Worse, it was two MD’s who turned me in to the “authorities.”
They released that South Africa omicron data... You know, the one that said the vaccine was 30% effective and 70% effective against hospitalizations for omicron that the media accepted without even questioning the obviously flawed metric?
It turns out the vaccine has HIGHLY negative VE against omicron in that data.
Funny... All the "scientists" saying omicron will be the end of the pandemic because everyone will get natural immunity were the ones pushing the vaccines for everyone, even those with natural immunity, the hardest. The ones that were saying natural immunity should be recognized from the get-go? Still excommunicated
Seriously, if you deny natural immunity then what's the basis for vaccine immunity? How do these people reconcile this? How is being exposed to the whole virus, and becoming immune to more antigens of the virus, somehow not acknowledged in comparison to just becoming immune to the spike protein, one out of its 28 antigens.
There's a doctor in Canada that is a true vaccine believer. She said that asking questions are known disinformation and misinformation tactics. I don't think they have a basis for vaccine immunity.
The story is that Socrates was given the ability to chose his own punishment so he said his punishment should be that he be fed by his accusers for life.
So they fed him Hemlock.
If it's true, that's what being a smartass can get you.
Stop trying to make sense of it. They know it doesn't make sense. You're just being tested for obedience.
They've always lied to you before, and quite obviously. Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Qaddafi about to cause a humanitarian crisis, Assad gassing his own people, Trump being a Putin Puppet - you're expected to believe and obey - the population always has before.
It has actually been asked and answered. The reason given was that it is EASIER to manage checking people for mandate compliance if all the conscripted police (i.e businesses) have to check for is evidence of vaccination via a single card or app screen.
This shows that this is all about control, not stopping/avoiding the Covid infection.
But with at least 2 shots and a booster, it is getting difficult to tell whom is fully vaxxed.
I haven't seen this response given! Why isn't proof of a prior positive PCR test enough to determine natural immunity? Also, I was referring to politicians and their press secretaries NEVER addressing the naturally immune when speaking about the *horrible unvaccinated* people, many of whom are naturally immune and don't derive enough benefit from the vaccine to override the risk.
No one trusts the media because they, like the government, are owned by Pharma. No one trusts public health and the medical system either. They have all shot themselves in the foot. It will take decades to rebuild that trust, if it's even possible. The whole rotten structure needs to be torn down and rebuilt with people who actually have a conscience, who actually do things because it's the right thing to do.
I would hit them with a trick question: "Since the vaccines have proven so safe and effective, when will you make the manufacturers liable for damages?"
there will NEVER be liability as they have arranged it so wickedly...see why as you watch the short link attached below. RFK Jr has them all figured out.
What an idiot. I bet he sat in his desk all day trying to think of something clever to ask and that is what he came out with. It was just reported 6.5 million left their jobs last month but they still want employee vaccine mandates. Why didn’t he ask about that?
There's a great book on big pharma controlling the medical industry. The author details what it is like to go to one of those Pfizer sponsored medical conferences... They have little raffles/contests for prizes at the front and the doctors get giddy over prizes as small as pens. I think we are over estimating how much it takes to buy the vaccine enthusiast types off.
PLEASE Gato, would love to see a "Pandemic of the vaccinated" post. Since Biden and other world leaders are insistent on scapegoating the unvaxxed, and many family and friends don't see the insanity of that claim, a shareable post written like only you can write would be awesome!
As hard as it is not to believe President Brandon, as of a couple days ago, the majority of jabbed I know are sick and/or tested positive, including kids in high school and college.
The media is already acting like an appendage of the (corrupt) State. Why not nationalize the big media outlets and then make the editors run for office just like a Congressman. It's not like we have a "free press" now. We just have a co-opted press that has fused with the State. Textbook fascism.
Well, they should be on the ballot. We should demand it. They can start with PBS / the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Why should the President appoint the leader of that Corporation? Direct elections - just like the Senate. We need to stop thinking what "they" will allow and demand what "we" want.
How many kids are going into "journalism" today in college I wonder? And what are they actually being taught? I wonder. I would rather have my kid become an ambulance chasing lawyer than get a "degree in journalism" these days.
They teach classes on porn in some schools these days. Basically everything that comes out of most journalists mouth is fear porn. I'm sure there's no connection
Definitely! I have more trust in someone who *doesn't* have a degree in journalism at all and just does honest research, admits when they are wrong, and isn't sponsored by *any* corporations.
“And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome goddamned propaganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network?”
I am hoping it’s a short learning curve. Many people still think NBC, CNN, NYT etc are legit news outlets. But they’ve also lost a ton of readership. Who knows where it will land, but I can see a lot of confusing messages bring disseminated wildly too- one day it’s a “dangerous viral blizzard” and the next it’s “mild, nothing to worry about.” And back and forth.
“We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Gulag Archipelago is shaping up to be the must read of 2022.
Read it for the first time in 2021. Truly frightening seeing it play out in real time.
yes
It is the must read of all time.
What the leftists have done must never be forgotten.
Especially now.
or forgiven, those responsable must be prosecuted . Nuremburg II
That's a hard slog - many people are mentioning "They thought they were free" 1930s Germany and Germans Milton Mayer - Russian and Russians are inscrutable - "Asiatic" - Germans are us
It's on my list right after I finish Red Famine which is a brutally depressing slog but highly recommended.
thank you for sharing this. Okay. I never read it! and I will procure it
Consider also “Babi Yar” by Anatoli Kuznetzov. A Ukrainian who witnessed atrocities by the Stalinists then the Nazis and then the Stalinists again.
All totalitarians are mass murderers. God save us from them.
Solzhenitsyn lived with his family in Vermont (my state) for over 20 years. He returned to Russia in 1994. I figure Vermont was just too commie for him.
Who could share a state with Comrade Bernie?
I saw his son Ignat make his debut with the Philadelphia Orchestra. His career never really panned out though. Classical music ain't what it used to be.
lol, geez I have a lot to learn
Most people believe they are not lying heheh...
My favourite quote from Solzhenitsyn.
This may actually be a quote from Elena Gorokhova, in the book A Mountain of Crumbs:
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/49939/did-alexander-solzhenitsyn-say-they-know-we-know-theyre-lying-but-they-keep-l
The Media's Epic CV fail:
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-medias-epic-coronavirus-fail
4+ years of them lying about Trump in a world where anyone can see the original unedited videos of him speaking on Youtube is what initially woke me up. I'm not even American nor a Trump fan nor should this matter. I'm a fan of FACTS and TRUTH not outright lies.
The constant push for vaccines without even discussing natural immunity and the vilification of those like myself who have legitimate concerns are all just fuel on the fire.
You should spend time looking at the media contradicting themselves. I've been watching that for 20 years.
Hey, find that weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq yet? Phil Donahue was fired from his top rated show because he wasn't certain the claim was true...
Trump had his problems but one thing I will be ETERNALLY grateful is he did what I wanted to do for 2 decades. He got people to see the American news media for what it actually is. It's propaganda. It's been pure propaganda for at least 20 years, probably 30, quite possibly, my entire life.
This is sort of like when they started poking around the mask question. They found that the anti-maskers knew the data far better than the other side, and was ready with facts from public sources to back up their assertions. So it is with those who don't want this shot.
I think we should try our best to not call them reporters or journalists and call them what they are Propagandists.
Presstitutes is my favorite.
Perpetrators. Just as much as any other player.
The perpetrators who initiated this couldn’t have got this far without mass media to stab people with the narrative AND the tech industry without which they couldn’t have censored people like me & many others.
Indeed. I’ve been banned for three days from a local neighborhood group for sharing vaccine misinformation. You know that means I shared valid data. Worse, it was two MD’s who turned me in to the “authorities.”
Bastards!
Females. The worst kind. Actually I think I embarrassed them. They dish it out but they can’t take it.
3 days? I got thrown off NextDoor 18 months ago for posting against Covid fearmongering way back then.
👹
Or “the enemy”.
They released that South Africa omicron data... You know, the one that said the vaccine was 30% effective and 70% effective against hospitalizations for omicron that the media accepted without even questioning the obviously flawed metric?
It turns out the vaccine has HIGHLY negative VE against omicron in that data.
https://jestre.substack.com/p/media-lies-212-ve-against-omicron
Why don't we trust the media? Because they're all numptys who are in way over their head.
Numptys? Try lying, deceitful, evil, useless, bastards, who deserve every bad thing coming their way.
The question no one ever asks:
"Why doesn't the government recognize natural immunity?"
Funny... All the "scientists" saying omicron will be the end of the pandemic because everyone will get natural immunity were the ones pushing the vaccines for everyone, even those with natural immunity, the hardest. The ones that were saying natural immunity should be recognized from the get-go? Still excommunicated
Seriously, if you deny natural immunity then what's the basis for vaccine immunity? How do these people reconcile this? How is being exposed to the whole virus, and becoming immune to more antigens of the virus, somehow not acknowledged in comparison to just becoming immune to the spike protein, one out of its 28 antigens.
There's a doctor in Canada that is a true vaccine believer. She said that asking questions are known disinformation and misinformation tactics. I don't think they have a basis for vaccine immunity.
"She said that asking questions is a known disinformation and misinformation tactics."
Is she a doctor of propaganda?
You mean like the NYT article that said critical thinking is bad during rona times????
Dr. Susan Shaw... Look at her twitter and tell me. 😂
I think you’re correct. She has a Prop-D
Asking questions was what Socrates did.
She would have voted to have him eat hemlock, I'm sure of it.
The story is that Socrates was given the ability to chose his own punishment so he said his punishment should be that he be fed by his accusers for life.
So they fed him Hemlock.
If it's true, that's what being a smartass can get you.
Especially questions that she can't answer!
Stop trying to make sense of it. They know it doesn't make sense. You're just being tested for obedience.
They've always lied to you before, and quite obviously. Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Qaddafi about to cause a humanitarian crisis, Assad gassing his own people, Trump being a Putin Puppet - you're expected to believe and obey - the population always has before.
No money in it.
It has actually been asked and answered. The reason given was that it is EASIER to manage checking people for mandate compliance if all the conscripted police (i.e businesses) have to check for is evidence of vaccination via a single card or app screen.
This shows that this is all about control, not stopping/avoiding the Covid infection.
But with at least 2 shots and a booster, it is getting difficult to tell whom is fully vaxxed.
I haven't seen this response given! Why isn't proof of a prior positive PCR test enough to determine natural immunity? Also, I was referring to politicians and their press secretaries NEVER addressing the naturally immune when speaking about the *horrible unvaccinated* people, many of whom are naturally immune and don't derive enough benefit from the vaccine to override the risk.
No one trusts the media because they, like the government, are owned by Pharma. No one trusts public health and the medical system either. They have all shot themselves in the foot. It will take decades to rebuild that trust, if it's even possible. The whole rotten structure needs to be torn down and rebuilt with people who actually have a conscience, who actually do things because it's the right thing to do.
They are beholden to advertisers. Drug ads should be banned from TV and print media. That would free the media to talk the truth.
I wonder if they realized they were shooting themselves in the foot.
They're just trying to collect a paycheck. Sad.
hah, no, they're shooting all of us, in the arm, if they can
I would hit them with a trick question: "Since the vaccines have proven so safe and effective, when will you make the manufacturers liable for damages?"
there will NEVER be liability as they have arranged it so wickedly...see why as you watch the short link attached below. RFK Jr has them all figured out.
you must watch this from Robert Kennedy JR (copied link from others before):
https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/1476199756695232515
That smirk is priceless, though. She must find it so hilarious to be served softball after softball.
She is a babe, though.
yuk
Please don't breed with people like that.
It's not good for the species.
Any chance of this sort of corruption continuing to pollute the gene pool should be avoided.
What an idiot. I bet he sat in his desk all day trying to think of something clever to ask and that is what he came out with. It was just reported 6.5 million left their jobs last month but they still want employee vaccine mandates. Why didn’t he ask about that?
I bet a Pfizer sales rep just handed him a slip of paper and he read it verbatim
And clipped to it was a stack of c-notes.
There's a great book on big pharma controlling the medical industry. The author details what it is like to go to one of those Pfizer sponsored medical conferences... They have little raffles/contests for prizes at the front and the doctors get giddy over prizes as small as pens. I think we are over estimating how much it takes to buy the vaccine enthusiast types off.
“Build back freer” love it. Let’s put a metric on every govt action…does it increase individual freedoms or decrease? Only gains allowed
PLEASE Gato, would love to see a "Pandemic of the vaccinated" post. Since Biden and other world leaders are insistent on scapegoating the unvaxxed, and many family and friends don't see the insanity of that claim, a shareable post written like only you can write would be awesome!
I second this motion.
As hard as it is not to believe President Brandon, as of a couple days ago, the majority of jabbed I know are sick and/or tested positive, including kids in high school and college.
Yes yes yes.
The media is already acting like an appendage of the (corrupt) State. Why not nationalize the big media outlets and then make the editors run for office just like a Congressman. It's not like we have a "free press" now. We just have a co-opted press that has fused with the State. Textbook fascism.
They would never have them run for office. State media always devolves into the same thing we see today. See the BBC/CBC
Well, they should be on the ballot. We should demand it. They can start with PBS / the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Why should the President appoint the leader of that Corporation? Direct elections - just like the Senate. We need to stop thinking what "they" will allow and demand what "we" want.
How many kids are going into "journalism" today in college I wonder? And what are they actually being taught? I wonder. I would rather have my kid become an ambulance chasing lawyer than get a "degree in journalism" these days.
I would rather my kid be a plumber…
They teach classes on porn in some schools these days. Basically everything that comes out of most journalists mouth is fear porn. I'm sure there's no connection
And here I thought that most degrees people are getting today were useless. lol. ;-)
Definitely! I have more trust in someone who *doesn't* have a degree in journalism at all and just does honest research, admits when they are wrong, and isn't sponsored by *any* corporations.
This is why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HQTNZRmJdg
“And when the twelfth largest company in the world controls the most awesome goddamned propaganda force in the whole godless world, who knows what shit will be peddled for truth on this network?”
"And woe is us if it ever falls into the hands of the wrong people."
On youtube.
💯
I am hoping it’s a short learning curve. Many people still think NBC, CNN, NYT etc are legit news outlets. But they’ve also lost a ton of readership. Who knows where it will land, but I can see a lot of confusing messages bring disseminated wildly too- one day it’s a “dangerous viral blizzard” and the next it’s “mild, nothing to worry about.” And back and forth.