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The standard response I get on asking any doc is they’re all equally effective as long as you get one. Knowing that their assertion is based on zero data makes me question all their other confident assertions as well

I knew journalists were hacks. This shit show exposed doctors as hacks too

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If it makes you feel any better, gato, I have it on good authority that they're collecting excellent data on which vaccines are most profitable and who is resisting them.

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In my academic medical center we use EPIC for our EMR, which is one of the most widely used software systems in the US. If I wanted to analyze a specific variable (i.e. vaccination status), I need to first identify the data entry field that "houses" this data point. This is not as straightforward as it may seem because the field label may differ depending on where the information is gathered for data entry.

For example, at my institution there is a data field for vaccination status labeled "COVID-19 Vaccine". The entries for this field include: "unknown", "vaccinated", "overdue for booster dose", and "overdue for dose 2"(see images below). This field is auto-populated from the immunization record. However, immunizations require manual entry into the immunization record. Therefore, the data field for COVID-19 vaccination status is dependent upon manual entry of the date/type of immunization into the immunization record.

Most of my vaccinated patients do not have an updated COVID-19 vaccination status because nobody has manually entered the immunization date/type into the immunization record. Instead, vaccination status is typically embedded within provider notes which are not extractable data fields for data analysis or for "feeding" data into other systems. I recently admitted several critically ill patients from outside hospitals for whom I could not ascertain vaccination status. I had to search through pages of notes and external records to find this information. In 2 of 3 records I found a note indicating the patients were vaccinated with the month but not date of vaccination. I cannot enter vaccination status into the immunization record without the specific date. Therefore, all 3 patients are listed as "unknown" vaccination status, which in our system is the same designation as "unvaccinated". This is problematic for both reporting vaccination status but also for tracking adverse events which could be associated with vaccination. Of the 3 patients mentioned above, all were being treated for thromboses of unknown origin.

To me, this suggests that any reporting on the number of vaccinated versus unvaccinated hospitalized patients is fraught with error on numerous levels. What I find concerning is that nobody seems motivated to improve the ability to extract this variable. It would be an easy build in EPIC to auto-populate date of immunization into the patient's immunization record. It is common for many other data fields (medications, infectious diseases such as MRSA, VRE) to auto-populate. For example, in the patient's "medication list" I can see every medication a patient has filled at a pharmacy along with the corresponding date of initiation of therapy and prescriber.

If this is common at the medical center where I work, is it not possible that this is also common at other major academic medical centers?

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"so why is no one studying this?"

First rule of toxic policy is never ask a question when the answer may show what you're hiding.

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There's a clip of Julian Assange saying that the point of the War on Terror was simply to launder taxpayer money to the MIC. The parallels to our fight against covid are stunning. We again are engaged in a quixotic, unwinnable war against a stubborn, intractable enemy. Once again, corporations are gorging themselves on the public's dime, and many innocents are losing their lives and livelihoods.

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They intentionally destroyed this data by recommending people get any vaccine and any booster. Just like they destroyed the control groups in the clinical trials by vaxxing everyone after six months (funny that six months happens to be the time frame when the vax loses efficacy - sheer coincidence, I'm sure). Israel is the only pure case study for Pfizer - and it isn't good.

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They also aren’t in the least bit interested in discovering anything at all about natural immunity after infection.

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Data useful for *what*?

If your goal is transparently serving public health, this makes no sense.

But if your goal is to obfuscate and obstruct, in a desperate attempt to cover tracks in the collapse, it makes *perfect* sense.

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none of them are approved, just under emergency use authorization... and they keep lying about everything ... the FDA / Pfizer want to keep the data quiet for 75 years.

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Silly cat, all vaxxes are 100% effective!

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Dr Anthony Fauci has sought to dispel lingering concerns about any of the Covid vaccines that are being rolled out across the country, urging Americans that all three types of approved jab are “highly efficacious”.

While many Americans have harped on the relatively lower nominal efficacy rate of the newly approved Johnson & Johnson vaccine – 66 per cent globally, compared to 94 per cent for the Moderna vaccine and 93 per cent for the Pfizer vaccine – doctors and scientists, including Dr Fauci, have said all three vaccines are extraordinarily effective at preventing serious illness and death.

The numbers Americans should be emphasising are that all three vaccines have proven 100 per cent effective at preventing deaths. The risk of hospitalisation also plummets to virtually zero for people who receive the vaccine.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/vaccine-covid-fauci-deaths-b1808878.html

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Plenty of examples of such questions all throughout the pandemic. The classic is hospitalisations/deaths and “with” vs “of”. Gee, if I was in charge of public health, and controlled statistic-gathering policy, I would certainly want to know this information as a priority so I could be more effective. But that’s just me.

You only have an excuse for not doing these things for the first few weeks. After that it’s deliberate choice.

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J Trudeau was asked early on "which vaccine should I take?" His answer was "the best one is the first one that you're offered." It couldn't have been a more political answer.

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All of the "vaccines" co-opt the cells to produce the spike or contain the spike.

The spike is the disease.

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Kitty… sometimes I get the impression you already know the answers to your questions.

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1. They aren't vaccines

2. They aren't approved

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Jan 3, 2022·edited Jan 3, 2022

"given all the other data they are collecting like an OCD ant farm, why are they not collecting the data that would actually be useful?"

As my libertarian friends like to put it, "FYTW." (Eff you, that's why)

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