.. umm... I have some bad news. it's not just "public health" that is rotten, it's ALL of our healthcare, I'm more and more certain. The Drs should have been a bulwark against this bureaucratic stupidity. But they - well some were afraid/cowed. but some were honestly just dumber than I expected. They showed their innumeracy. They got thru med school how? cheating on all math-related requirements?
I agree with you, with one caveat. Our medical system at large is just a bunch of monopolistic corporations disguised as individual doctors and hospitals. I live in Montana. We have, for the entire state, two systems to choose from, no matter where you are, one started in the state itself, which is horrid, and the other that is part of a nationwide conglomerate and is also horrid. 99.9% of all the doctors in the states are aligned with one of these two systems and relies on it for employment. You're not going to find much independent thought (nor courage) in a system like that.
I am fortunate. I found a concierge doctor not affiliated with any medical bureaucracy. I have his cell phone number and 24 hr access. He works for me. What a novel thought.
Brought my son with me, prepared to back my position. Was shocked when he told me there was no way I should get it, my sons didn't need it...no one in his family would get it and only 50% of his staff had gotten it and no one held it against them.
I'd love to have your dr, mine was a hard core advocate. I told her i wanted an exemption, she said "we're not doing that" (they've been barred from giving medical exemptions by bc govt). No exemptions, no consideration for the patient or infomed consent.
Last time I looked (which is about three years ago), there were concierge doctors in my area. We rarely (thank God) ever go to the doctor, so I couldn't justify spending the money at the time. However, I am keeping it in mind as we get older.
Most doctors don't really understand scientific reasoning and the practice of science. They may be very good at what they do in some strictly bounded domains, being able to accurately diagnose most common diseases in their specialties and correctly indicate the most commonly useful treatments, but when faced with something new or unusual they usually need to have some external help as they are not intellectually prepared to move away from some very well defined protocols.
And this is mostly ok. Most disease in human beings is common and straightforward to treat, and when it is not, we don't expect primary care doctors to be able to treat them or to have a definite opinion on that. The more complex and severe the disease, we can still have protocols, but they are less definite, more varied, and require far more expert criteria to be adapted for a given patient and his clinical situation.
Concerning vaccinations, most doctors don't really understand the more intricate aspects of immunology or virology, but as most vaccines are indeed very safe after as much as ten years of testing, they could recommend them as safe and effective while knowing the contra-indications because the system had correctly worked and they were given good information by the authorities.
Enter the under-tested gene therapies called COVID vaccines, they are sold the same discourse by the authorities, but now this discourse is not truthful, we don't actually know the real risks, and people were subjects in a experiment which is still, and which will still be ongoing for a few years.
But, most of those doctors are afraid to say they really don't understand this. They're afraid of going against the authorities, and when you challenge their beliefs they get outraged, because they are acutely aware they really have no fucking idea what they are talking about, they don't have the required curiosity to try to understand it and probably you, the patient, seems to have more information that what they do.
well if you really look into their training they are specialists: informed in physiology and anatomy and basic "doctoring" that homeopaths had, but they are nothing but glorified drug pushers and sellers.
The school sched for childhood vaccines has caused terrible harm for many children. The adjuvants are dangerous, there are too many vaccines mandated for school. Pharma can't be sued, the voices of the injured have been silenced for decades. You are wrong thinking vacccines in general are safe for all. They are not and therefore should not be mandated for school.
Compare US schdl to Japan's... look up infant mortality before 2. End of discussion. Japan wins. NO VAX schedule before 2ys and even then .. be minimalistic....Mortality rate? Very low. No SADS for infants there..... I have had to have rabies and Dtap ... Dtap gave me the worst black n blue golf ball size swelling EVER. I said to the nurse, this is an adverse reaction (they probly didnt give correctly) and I also swore no more vx for me. I was like 38 or 39 at the time? I wasn't worried about much because well I NEVER get the flu jab since my 28th year where I had the worst bout ever and that was AFTER vaxxing... so my thoughts are: don't jab ever. Stay non vaxxed. If you've got a health immune system and nutrition you will survive it.. and be better for it...
They are among the easiest to coerce. Same thing happened in Germany in the 20's, 30's, and the war years. Racism? God, yes. Life for "useless eaters", NO, "life unworthy of life", That's the ticket!
doctors have a VERY high 'social' score. All they had to do was threaten their livelihood, and they are ON THE TEAM.
I shouldn't gloat but I see poetic justice in doctors getting maimed or killed by their own poisonous shots after forcing them on everybody else. A taste of their own medicine.
I've walked out of several doc's offices in the past - never to return. I will not tolerate a 'holier-than-thou' attitude or insistence on pills/procedures than I have refused. We still have the freedom to choose. I finally found one that understands and accepts my decisions without question.
I'm fortunate to reside in NEOH where there is still some choice though government is working furiously to reduce the number of players in the field...
That was my thinking! As soon as I heard doctors advocating for people to essentially wear a tshirt across their face to stop the spread of a microorganism, I thought ‘they really can’t be this stupid...’
It used to be that having an higher education even in a social or humanities related field gave you a basic understanding of the principles of the natural sciences that are absolutely required not to be a complete savage in a technical, modern society.
It doesn't matter if you're a PoliSci graduate, having a university education should mean that you are at least able to understand basic calculus, probability and statistics as well as the basic knowledge of physics so, for example, someone should intuit that face masks are useless to block an aerosol, and that maybe they could make things worse, because from basic physics, we know that every time we constrict the flow of a given volume per time of a fluid to keep the same flow the velocity of said flow will increase.
And you can see this everywhere. People are unable to understand how renewables can contribute to grid instability, because after more than 12 years of primary and secondary education, most of them don't really understand the basic physics of Alternating Current electric circuits.
The list of things that people should know after all the time they spend in school is staggering
At the start of "Lockdown" I read articles saying that the economy would not tank as long as the government handed out enough checks and allowed people to spend the money. One was written by a professor of Economics.
They are busy being indoctrinated in left leaning politics. THAT is what is deemed important. This "pandemic" has made clear just how self centered and useless (to children and the public interest) the teachers unions are. Randi Weingarden (spelling probably wrong) is the archetype example of their thinking
If you expect any Social Science graduate to understand the Scientific method, "... basic calculus, probability and statistics, let alone basic knowledge of Physics ..." you are deluded. Some (very few ) may, but most, includng most PoliSci graduates, use the "Scientific" element of their title as an illegitimate claim to scientific rigour that they can in no way justify. Science is not a game, to be played by Politicians, Journalists, and suchlike scum - it is a rather constrained game, played by rather strict rules, and with limited applicability in the social world. The Science of Man is but a small sliver of human experiences - activities - and problems.
I love how so many of you who are criticizing physicians use anecdotal evidence, something a person who actually understands statistical techniques would never think of using. We’ve all had bad doctors including myself, a 75-year-old retired neurologist. and when your kid gets appendicitis why don’t you tell the surgeon you think he’s a jerk and probably can’t remember calculus? See how that goes?
Oh look... a logical fallacy.. a false dilemma...of course interactions with Gps are anecdotal..so what?...and surgical skills..by surgeons..does not mean that by some form of magical thinking that Gp`s now suddenly become scientifically literate or critical thinkers.."because surgeons"..next
I’ve known some rather brilliant physicians with excellent math skills; one of them an MIT physics undergraduate and Harvard trained cardiologist. I never bought into the COVID VACCINE scam because I knew what mRNA does in the human. Why would I allow an untested messengerRNA with a genetic code that could mutate be injected into my body, I asked, without needing reference to any statistical methods? It’s called “common sense” that some math geniuses don’t have because they erroneously believe only numbers matter.
Pay any person enough, and that's the carrot in the ACA, and even so called educated professionals will destroy whatever gets in their way of their next meal ticket.
We tried to warn you that the ACA (aka the largest marxist takeover of a once free economy) was a disaster. To all the ignorant spoon fed masses who cried about the poor, the children, the elderly, who are now being killed off by malpractice, malfeasance and malignant evil, you are reaping the the whirlwind you have sown. Karma can not come fast enough.
The only thing is is the the damage of government intervention is always passed off as the cruelty of the evil capitalist system or those evil capitalists. The system that raised more people out of poverty than all the government programs that have been or ever will be hatched. And that's why Obama "did that", he knew it would be worse which is used to justify greater intervention
The doctors may or may not be innumerate, but they are prisoners of captured institutions. With very few exceptions, they are simply not allowed to exercise their own judgement and remain in the profession.
If this phenomenon were confined to medicine, that would be bad enough. It's not by a long shot. All our institutions are corrupt. Government, academia, finance, business, journalism, and religion is all structurally weakened by moral rot... This didn't happen overnight, and it is not simply bad luck. We are in the endgame of a long era of low-intensity unrestricted warfare; a war declared by the very few and most powerful against free humanity at large.
Yes, indeed, the moral rot "didn't happen overnight, and it is not simply bad luck." If you haven't already read Dr John Coleman's 1992 book _Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300_, then please do, as it reveals who is doing this and explains the whys and wherefores.
Also, catch this G. Edward Griffin 1983 interview of ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov, as what he revealed and warned about almost 40 years ago is the reality today in the USSA. He explains in detail how Marxist ideology destabilizes a country over time. Very prescient.
And driving new covid cars... who are the real quacks here, they should change the definition of quackery at the cdc definitionary office. To me, mainstr drs who apostlelised the unscience through the jab are the quacks now and forever, because many of us will always remember. They are now stygmatized for life.
That reminds me of a married couple who lived next door to me some years ago, both of them biochemists who worked in private labs but also taught some courses at a local university. Both said their slowest students were medical students.
In all fairness, I've had a few excellent doctors in the past -- but not recently, come to think of it. For one thing, I don't think medical students are taught how to diagnose without high-tech machinery any more.
Doctors who are interested in you as a patient seem to be long gone. I know there are time pressures put on them among other things that make their jobs difficult, but the distinct lack of curiousity about me as a patient is very obvious. My husband is 64. When he was a small child he was regularly ill with pneumonia. His doctor actually made a house call (this would have been more than fifty years ago). When his daughter was a child she had an illness her pediatrician was trying to diagnose. My husband said the pediatrician spent a considerable amount of time researching her symptoms and treatments and discussed his findings over a couple of meetings with my husband. Our experience with our son's pediatrician was nothing like that when my son developed an intestinal issue, and it has been nothing like that for me either (and that includes a MD and a NMD).
Goddamn cat im so happy i subscribed to whatever it is you call this place. Great info or entertainment literally every day. Keep up the good work love having these “receipts”
Best predictor of people's present or future behavior, is their past behavior. Read RFK Jr's book, "the REAL Anthony Fauci" and you will know all. It may not help, but at least you will know.
The new claims don’t even make sense. If the vaccines don’t stop transmission and only reduce serious disease, then mandating vaccines for healthy people would clearly be an overwhelmingly negative policy. Which we’re seeing now.
If it only reduced risk of serious disease, then mandating it for people who weren’t at risk of serious disease would put them at risk of adverse effects for nothing. And cause labor shortages for nothing.
If these folks believe that the vaccine was never supposed to stop transmission, then they are admitting to conspiracy to intentionally hurt people.
They absolutely knew it would not stop transmission. An intermuscular vaccine will never stop infection of the mucosal nazal passages (the immune systems are separate) thus will never stop the spread. This is immunology 101. Fauci and all the others know this. Vax is a therapeutic. They tried to build a mucosal vax (inject into nose) in past but created too many neuralogical issues with proximity to brain. But it is easy to get the public on side because the subject matter is complicated and most dont want to bother with researching; just trust experts. The experts lied to get sales, push universal vacc agenda, great reset, whatever. which has always been the plan; failed in past with MERS and SARS and will fail again. Except this time they did massive damage on many levels. Tragic and sad.
Yes. And now they are in a panic to eliminate the current control group. There is a massive fight ahead. I am truly concerned about the release of another pathogen to cover up this current failure.
There is an Israeli company testing an oral vaccine. Engaging the mucosae of the digestive system seems worth a try. Trials are being set up in South Africa and Mexico.
Oh, please, NO! No more boosters, no more "vaccines" for basically a cold/flu that most people will easily get through with nothing and which has a whole panoply of effective treatments if people are allowed to get them. Isn't it about time we shut down this whole pharmaceutical scam machine and put these people in prison for life?
Sorry, nothing benign has come out of this industry in decades. The overweening arrogance of thinking that our amazing bodies and their magnificently designed immune systems can--nay, must--be improved by the machinations of Dunning-Krueger sufferers with totalitarian ambitions is a deadly plague that must be crushed before it destroys the world.
Yes Martha. This is the worst outcome of all this. Why do so many have such little faith in the miracle that is our immune systems? The focus should be on keeping them strong.
In the early days of this, as I became an involuntary student of virology, I read a paper (proper, peer-reviewed) about all-cause mortality in West Africa from the DTP vaccine. Evidently, no one cared. This has indeed been brewing for some time.
The media didn’t care to direct our gullible attention spans. Believe me when I say - I DO CARE. Reminds me of AIDS and AZT. I’d bet most of those under 50 - 60 know almost nothing about that tyranny.
It’s starting to look like an experiment on a fraction of the population that would not attract widespread attention. I’m among the guilty; it passed me by.
"they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil:" II Timothy 6:9-10, KJV
Yes but aren’t traditional vaccines different or am I still believing medical propaganda? My understanding is that most other vaccines ARE sterilyzing, i.e. they do produce personal immunity for the recipient even if a person can still transmit the disease. I had heard that even old style attenuated or killed virus vaxes don’t produce non-transmissibility. For example, whooping cough, my understanding is a 6 year old gets vaxxed and he is protected but his little 3 yr old brother can still get it from the 6 yr old. In fact can even die. Am I correct?
Yes, traditional vaccines are different both in the way they work and in their generally expected sterilising effect. As I understand it, an interesting exception is polio: one type is sterilising and the other type is not but has low side-effect rates. This is why, until the 90s, the U.S. had a regimen of administering both oral and injectable polio vaccines, in order to minimise side-effects while
avoiding the systemic risk of non-sterilising vaccines.
Also, how do they know it reduces the severity of disease? I don't remember any studies that addressed this, and the proposition seems otherwise to be non-falsifiable - which is the opposite of science. Even if there are studies, how were those studies designed? Do they control for selection bias and the fact that people obsessed with their health and thereby more likely to take the vaccine probably wouldn't have severe illness regardless? The fact that blacks and Latinos - sorry, Latinxs - are more likely to be vaccine hesitant and also more likely to be vitamin D deficient, which can contribute to increased severity? Where is this study, because I'd like to see it.
Don't say Latinx even as a fucking joke. Every time someone says "Latinx," everyone involved loses a brain cell, and they only give you so many of those and you don't get any new ones when you run out.
Where they will pay you a salary to learn but in exchange reject all medical exemption requests regardless of what your longterm personal doctors say and reject your religious exemption request because once you decide how scripture applies to you it is no longer a religion but a personal philosophy. You will be required to wear an N95 on campus (outdoors) test once a week and rush to get boosted at the drop of a pin, you really don't want to lose your funding. Bonus points if you join Team Kool Aid and preach
If you need to object in Comintern: "The appropriation of gendered romance languages by ignorant white feminist colonizers is not appropriate. Hate has no home here!"
I've been asking this question forever, it seems, i.e., "How do we know the severity is less? What is the standard against which we're measuring, how are we measuring, and on what kinds of test groups and control groups?" Not only haven't I gotten any answers, but I haven't even been able to get anyone to take the questions seriously -- or maybe to understand them.
Plus the symptoms of Covid differ for every person. Once you are vaccinated you can make no claim that your symptoms were less severe than they would have been without the vaccination because you can’t compare it to yourself and what your symptoms would have been like without it. Comparing your Covid “breakthrough” infection to an unvaccinated persons infection is not a true comparison.
I think it was Mark Twain who said it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his financial future depends on him NOT understanding it. This a paraphrase, of course.
It doesn't reduce mortality and severity, that has been disproven with results from Israel and Scotland, sorry I can't provide link right now, but that info can be found in lots of alternate sites now.
It seems to me that Fauci&Co make a clear effort not to outright lie, but still to keep the people believing that the vaccines prevent transmission and infectiousness. Many people still believe that.
It is quite nefarious.
It is the motte-and-bailey way of arguing, so beloved for years now in academia, politics, and the media.
E.g. Toxic Whiteness ("....but we do not mean all whites are toxic, just the racist structures we call white")
Sex and Gender ("....we do not mean that sex is a social construct, but the concept of male-female behaviour")
and of course the all time hit "that wasn't real socialism"
Tony will ABSOLUTELY lie outright. Have you watched the Rand Paul-Fauci interchange, when he denied funding Eco-health alliance to avoid the "gain of function" pause started by Obama in (I think) 2014.?
He very loudly denies it, and says Paul doesn't know what he's talking about.
He will say the exact opposite thing on different days of the week, brazenly pretending he didn't. If called out, he smiles and says, "Yes, I lied. But I did it because X..."
His groupies and fanboys deny that he does this or rabidly defend him. Fauci is the pope of the Covidians.
The vaccines were never trialed for transmission. Remember. Pfizer got its EUA based on relative effectiveness using symptomatic cases as the primary endpoint Where a symptomatic case was a positive test and at least one non-specific symptom like a sniffle, cough, fever etc. It's not entirely clear to me that anyone in either trial cohort was hospitalized during the period it took to reach a total of 170 cases. Data showed 9 severe cases of covid in the placebo cohort and 1 in the vax cohort, but it wasn't clear if any needed hospitalization. No one died in either cohort. What no one specifically said was that the 9 severe cases were out of about 21,700 people in the placebo arm. So your chances of getting a severe case if unvaxxed were only 9/21,700 or .04%. For this risk, how much vaccine risk would you be willing to take?
OMG, information is coming in RAPIDLY now! What will they DO when everybody, even Joe Smoe on the street corner realizes the 'vaccines' are BS?
I think that they will have to change the subject. Anybody think a non violent 'subject change' is probable or possible? Anything less will mostly be ignored, IMO. And it seems like it would be foolish to wait until EVERYBODY knew it was BS.
although, I think it was Yogi Berra who said, "prognostication's are difficult, especially if it's the future" (admittedly paraphrased but think the idea is same <smile>)
Yep. The conflicting narratives made me suspicious. What I learned about Bill Gates's "philanthropy" around the world scared me. I' decided not to get those shots.
So glad you and a hearty cohort of others diligently track what will surely become unbelievable history. I work in pharma and specifically with vaccines, cell and gene therapy. It's hard to describe how many of my colleagues, most MD, PhD or both have completely lost all ability to critically think and have bought into the complete misinformation Fauci and government figureheads are spewing. Where is Galt's Gulch?
Thx for asking. Ive been asking myself that for a while now. I've been answering myself in 2 defeating ways: a) I actually do some cool stuff. Just this week my labs received extraordinarily positive results on 3 in vivo non clinical studies which appear game changing for possible permanent cure for a rare disease. The work was result of 5+ yrs effort and a ton of failures. If lucky, in a year or so, we'll get into clinic for phase 1/2 trials. The reality is however b). B goes like this: I spent +12 yrs in school training, have many bills, and family obligations I impose upon myself. The jobs pay very well and I haven't found the guts to stand up and say enough of the BS and go find another job. I'm guessing me, and millions more like me, are the actual problem bc we're easy prey and end up complying. (Ever see the film/book The Firm?).
Because you asked, there is another aspect I can't explain other than to hypothesize some people have actually been brainwashed. For example, of the team that achieved awesome results on our gene therapy, when confronted as to why the same rigorous studies and standards weren't applied to any of the main Covid vaccines, most have no answer; several say we just need to be cautious and do what we're told; a smaller number appear to agree, or agree privately that something is highly wrong but prefer to say. 'I'd rather not discuss'.
Until that attitude is understood and dealt with, the problems will likely continue. Best answer I can offer. Spread courage.
COVID injections clearly don't qualify as vaccines by any stretch of the imagination. A successful vaccine would be very safe while affording durable immunity. COVID injections have proven dreadfully dangerous in the short term (see VAERS) with medium and long term danger still unknown all while any efficacy wanes rapidly. Worse still recent data suggests negative efficacy, meaning those injected are now more easily infected by SARS2 than they would have been. Injection crusaders, like Fauci, are the actual plague upon human society.
If you really want to understand the details of what the cat man is saying, please read RFK's book "The Real Anthony Fauci". You can't pin this on one man, even one as corrupt and incompetent as Fauci. This is a pharma-industrial complex comprise
"the whole rotten edifice of US public health"
.. umm... I have some bad news. it's not just "public health" that is rotten, it's ALL of our healthcare, I'm more and more certain. The Drs should have been a bulwark against this bureaucratic stupidity. But they - well some were afraid/cowed. but some were honestly just dumber than I expected. They showed their innumeracy. They got thru med school how? cheating on all math-related requirements?
I agree with you, with one caveat. Our medical system at large is just a bunch of monopolistic corporations disguised as individual doctors and hospitals. I live in Montana. We have, for the entire state, two systems to choose from, no matter where you are, one started in the state itself, which is horrid, and the other that is part of a nationwide conglomerate and is also horrid. 99.9% of all the doctors in the states are aligned with one of these two systems and relies on it for employment. You're not going to find much independent thought (nor courage) in a system like that.
I am fortunate. I found a concierge doctor not affiliated with any medical bureaucracy. I have his cell phone number and 24 hr access. He works for me. What a novel thought.
Sadly our concierge Dr recommended the vaccine, after “looking at the data.” Now I need to find a new Dr.
Sorry to hear that. When my doc asked, and I said no. He said "good". They're toxic.
Mine too.
Brought my son with me, prepared to back my position. Was shocked when he told me there was no way I should get it, my sons didn't need it...no one in his family would get it and only 50% of his staff had gotten it and no one held it against them.
Keep that doctor!
I'd love to have your dr, mine was a hard core advocate. I told her i wanted an exemption, she said "we're not doing that" (they've been barred from giving medical exemptions by bc govt). No exemptions, no consideration for the patient or infomed consent.
Mine is very low key. Even though he asks if I want the vax, and I say NO!, he is ok with that. His only comment is he hopes I'll be alright.
Last time I looked (which is about three years ago), there were concierge doctors in my area. We rarely (thank God) ever go to the doctor, so I couldn't justify spending the money at the time. However, I am keeping it in mind as we get older.
It's like insurance. If you wait until to need it, you can't buy it at least in time.
I wish there was a list of open minded, reasonable doctors not linked to "medical bureaucracy" according to area.
Try flccc.net and look for a doctor in your area. Hope that helps.
Most doctors don't really understand scientific reasoning and the practice of science. They may be very good at what they do in some strictly bounded domains, being able to accurately diagnose most common diseases in their specialties and correctly indicate the most commonly useful treatments, but when faced with something new or unusual they usually need to have some external help as they are not intellectually prepared to move away from some very well defined protocols.
And this is mostly ok. Most disease in human beings is common and straightforward to treat, and when it is not, we don't expect primary care doctors to be able to treat them or to have a definite opinion on that. The more complex and severe the disease, we can still have protocols, but they are less definite, more varied, and require far more expert criteria to be adapted for a given patient and his clinical situation.
Concerning vaccinations, most doctors don't really understand the more intricate aspects of immunology or virology, but as most vaccines are indeed very safe after as much as ten years of testing, they could recommend them as safe and effective while knowing the contra-indications because the system had correctly worked and they were given good information by the authorities.
Enter the under-tested gene therapies called COVID vaccines, they are sold the same discourse by the authorities, but now this discourse is not truthful, we don't actually know the real risks, and people were subjects in a experiment which is still, and which will still be ongoing for a few years.
But, most of those doctors are afraid to say they really don't understand this. They're afraid of going against the authorities, and when you challenge their beliefs they get outraged, because they are acutely aware they really have no fucking idea what they are talking about, they don't have the required curiosity to try to understand it and probably you, the patient, seems to have more information that what they do.
well if you really look into their training they are specialists: informed in physiology and anatomy and basic "doctoring" that homeopaths had, but they are nothing but glorified drug pushers and sellers.
You are so right!
Not hard to replace with AI programs!
The school sched for childhood vaccines has caused terrible harm for many children. The adjuvants are dangerous, there are too many vaccines mandated for school. Pharma can't be sued, the voices of the injured have been silenced for decades. You are wrong thinking vacccines in general are safe for all. They are not and therefore should not be mandated for school.
Compare US schdl to Japan's... look up infant mortality before 2. End of discussion. Japan wins. NO VAX schedule before 2ys and even then .. be minimalistic....Mortality rate? Very low. No SADS for infants there..... I have had to have rabies and Dtap ... Dtap gave me the worst black n blue golf ball size swelling EVER. I said to the nurse, this is an adverse reaction (they probly didnt give correctly) and I also swore no more vx for me. I was like 38 or 39 at the time? I wasn't worried about much because well I NEVER get the flu jab since my 28th year where I had the worst bout ever and that was AFTER vaxxing... so my thoughts are: don't jab ever. Stay non vaxxed. If you've got a health immune system and nutrition you will survive it.. and be better for it...
I think they must believe everything written in the medical journals, if they even read them. Most just follow the herd.
Good heavens. What has happened to the doctors...it’s frightening.
They are among the easiest to coerce. Same thing happened in Germany in the 20's, 30's, and the war years. Racism? God, yes. Life for "useless eaters", NO, "life unworthy of life", That's the ticket!
doctors have a VERY high 'social' score. All they had to do was threaten their livelihood, and they are ON THE TEAM.
I shouldn't gloat but I see poetic justice in doctors getting maimed or killed by their own poisonous shots after forcing them on everybody else. A taste of their own medicine.
I've walked out of several doc's offices in the past - never to return. I will not tolerate a 'holier-than-thou' attitude or insistence on pills/procedures than I have refused. We still have the freedom to choose. I finally found one that understands and accepts my decisions without question.
I don’t understand.. when science evolves into little more than group think we are not longer using science.
Wonder who was paying him per shot?
I wouldn't trust him to care for me.
I'm fortunate to reside in NEOH where there is still some choice though government is working furiously to reduce the number of players in the field...
That was my thinking! As soon as I heard doctors advocating for people to essentially wear a tshirt across their face to stop the spread of a microorganism, I thought ‘they really can’t be this stupid...’
The lack of math skills is abhorrent in the medical profession AND in the journalism profession.
You mean "endemic" in those fields...and also in the US population..
No, I meant abhorrent - it’s detestable and loathsome that those professions cannot do basic math. But it’s also endemic. :)
The lack of critical thinking and basic academic skills (math, reading comprehension) in modern society is the root of all our ills.
It used to be that having an higher education even in a social or humanities related field gave you a basic understanding of the principles of the natural sciences that are absolutely required not to be a complete savage in a technical, modern society.
It doesn't matter if you're a PoliSci graduate, having a university education should mean that you are at least able to understand basic calculus, probability and statistics as well as the basic knowledge of physics so, for example, someone should intuit that face masks are useless to block an aerosol, and that maybe they could make things worse, because from basic physics, we know that every time we constrict the flow of a given volume per time of a fluid to keep the same flow the velocity of said flow will increase.
And you can see this everywhere. People are unable to understand how renewables can contribute to grid instability, because after more than 12 years of primary and secondary education, most of them don't really understand the basic physics of Alternating Current electric circuits.
The list of things that people should know after all the time they spend in school is staggering
At the start of "Lockdown" I read articles saying that the economy would not tank as long as the government handed out enough checks and allowed people to spend the money. One was written by a professor of Economics.
They are busy being indoctrinated in left leaning politics. THAT is what is deemed important. This "pandemic" has made clear just how self centered and useless (to children and the public interest) the teachers unions are. Randi Weingarden (spelling probably wrong) is the archetype example of their thinking
If you expect any Social Science graduate to understand the Scientific method, "... basic calculus, probability and statistics, let alone basic knowledge of Physics ..." you are deluded. Some (very few ) may, but most, includng most PoliSci graduates, use the "Scientific" element of their title as an illegitimate claim to scientific rigour that they can in no way justify. Science is not a game, to be played by Politicians, Journalists, and suchlike scum - it is a rather constrained game, played by rather strict rules, and with limited applicability in the social world. The Science of Man is but a small sliver of human experiences - activities - and problems.
Very true...
Let alone read the actual studies and decide for themselves
It's both, abhorrent and endemic. Most doctors never got past their 2 X table.
I love how so many of you who are criticizing physicians use anecdotal evidence, something a person who actually understands statistical techniques would never think of using. We’ve all had bad doctors including myself, a 75-year-old retired neurologist. and when your kid gets appendicitis why don’t you tell the surgeon you think he’s a jerk and probably can’t remember calculus? See how that goes?
Oh look... a logical fallacy.. a false dilemma...of course interactions with Gps are anecdotal..so what?...and surgical skills..by surgeons..does not mean that by some form of magical thinking that Gp`s now suddenly become scientifically literate or critical thinkers.."because surgeons"..next
I’ve known some rather brilliant physicians with excellent math skills; one of them an MIT physics undergraduate and Harvard trained cardiologist. I never bought into the COVID VACCINE scam because I knew what mRNA does in the human. Why would I allow an untested messengerRNA with a genetic code that could mutate be injected into my body, I asked, without needing reference to any statistical methods? It’s called “common sense” that some math geniuses don’t have because they erroneously believe only numbers matter.
Pay any person enough, and that's the carrot in the ACA, and even so called educated professionals will destroy whatever gets in their way of their next meal ticket.
We tried to warn you that the ACA (aka the largest marxist takeover of a once free economy) was a disaster. To all the ignorant spoon fed masses who cried about the poor, the children, the elderly, who are now being killed off by malpractice, malfeasance and malignant evil, you are reaping the the whirlwind you have sown. Karma can not come fast enough.
The only thing is is the the damage of government intervention is always passed off as the cruelty of the evil capitalist system or those evil capitalists. The system that raised more people out of poverty than all the government programs that have been or ever will be hatched. And that's why Obama "did that", he knew it would be worse which is used to justify greater intervention
The doctors may or may not be innumerate, but they are prisoners of captured institutions. With very few exceptions, they are simply not allowed to exercise their own judgement and remain in the profession.
If this phenomenon were confined to medicine, that would be bad enough. It's not by a long shot. All our institutions are corrupt. Government, academia, finance, business, journalism, and religion is all structurally weakened by moral rot... This didn't happen overnight, and it is not simply bad luck. We are in the endgame of a long era of low-intensity unrestricted warfare; a war declared by the very few and most powerful against free humanity at large.
Yes, indeed, the moral rot "didn't happen overnight, and it is not simply bad luck." If you haven't already read Dr John Coleman's 1992 book _Conspirators' Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300_, then please do, as it reveals who is doing this and explains the whys and wherefores.
https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/4A/4A92FD2FB4DAE3F773DB0B7742CF0F65_Coleman.-.CONSPIRATORS.HIERARCHY.-.THE.STORY.OF.THE.COMMITTEE.OF.300.R.pdf
Also, catch this G. Edward Griffin 1983 interview of ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov, as what he revealed and warned about almost 40 years ago is the reality today in the USSA. He explains in detail how Marxist ideology destabilizes a country over time. Very prescient.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/crWpvGyjeORi/
That is an excellent video. Everyone should watch it.
Yes this is the endgame and complicit doctors are part of of the process that is bringing it about.
in my opinion there is no “health”care in the US just sick management
And driving new covid cars... who are the real quacks here, they should change the definition of quackery at the cdc definitionary office. To me, mainstr drs who apostlelised the unscience through the jab are the quacks now and forever, because many of us will always remember. They are now stygmatized for life.
And they’re still doing it.
Having a mask sign on a drs office door isn’t the vote of confidence they think it is.
The Medical Industrial Complex is very overrated.
https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/denying-medical-treatment-to-the
They got thru med school because the DOD paid their way through. (Bottom of the class became epidemiologists.) It's biowarfare!
public
private
bureaucracy
corporate
academia - and by extension their graduated students
politicians
media
all hinge in DC, although I would say the virus started in academia, right?
going back how far? jj rossouw? ockham? the greeks?
or are these things part of human nature?
And can’t you just wait for the “equity” process of admitting medical students?
Medicare STILL insists on "vaccination" or else you get removed from ALL medical treatment!!
Not true. I have not been vaccinated with any vaccines for 12 years & my Medicare doesn’t care.
This isn't true for patients, just for facilities, which is bad enough.
They made my Ex take 3 jabs to keep her medicare! She refused the 4th. She now has diabetes - uncontrollable,5 injections per day!
I don't know what's going on, but I know people on Medicare and they are not forced to take the vaccine.
Figured. My Ex gaslit me&all others for 20 years. ( Still friends,been divorced for 30 years.) I begged her not to take the jabs.
Ex is in F.W. Tx. IDK.
That reminds me of a married couple who lived next door to me some years ago, both of them biochemists who worked in private labs but also taught some courses at a local university. Both said their slowest students were medical students.
In all fairness, I've had a few excellent doctors in the past -- but not recently, come to think of it. For one thing, I don't think medical students are taught how to diagnose without high-tech machinery any more.
I think they teach students to be dumb in med school. My sister used to be smart. Now she's an MD and it's like she got lobotomized.
Doctors who are interested in you as a patient seem to be long gone. I know there are time pressures put on them among other things that make their jobs difficult, but the distinct lack of curiousity about me as a patient is very obvious. My husband is 64. When he was a small child he was regularly ill with pneumonia. His doctor actually made a house call (this would have been more than fifty years ago). When his daughter was a child she had an illness her pediatrician was trying to diagnose. My husband said the pediatrician spent a considerable amount of time researching her symptoms and treatments and discussed his findings over a couple of meetings with my husband. Our experience with our son's pediatrician was nothing like that when my son developed an intestinal issue, and it has been nothing like that for me either (and that includes a MD and a NMD).
Goddamn cat im so happy i subscribed to whatever it is you call this place. Great info or entertainment literally every day. Keep up the good work love having these “receipts”
God bless
I agree!
Best predictor of people's present or future behavior, is their past behavior. Read RFK Jr's book, "the REAL Anthony Fauci" and you will know all. It may not help, but at least you will know.
Agree 100%...and that was from a KENNEDY. Even so, the book didn’t get enough traction. Sadly so.
The Litter Box? LOL.
Agreed, I've been spreading the feline love around today, maybe I'll be able to wake at least 1 person up by sharing these great assessments.
The new claims don’t even make sense. If the vaccines don’t stop transmission and only reduce serious disease, then mandating vaccines for healthy people would clearly be an overwhelmingly negative policy. Which we’re seeing now.
If it only reduced risk of serious disease, then mandating it for people who weren’t at risk of serious disease would put them at risk of adverse effects for nothing. And cause labor shortages for nothing.
If these folks believe that the vaccine was never supposed to stop transmission, then they are admitting to conspiracy to intentionally hurt people.
They absolutely knew it would not stop transmission. An intermuscular vaccine will never stop infection of the mucosal nazal passages (the immune systems are separate) thus will never stop the spread. This is immunology 101. Fauci and all the others know this. Vax is a therapeutic. They tried to build a mucosal vax (inject into nose) in past but created too many neuralogical issues with proximity to brain. But it is easy to get the public on side because the subject matter is complicated and most dont want to bother with researching; just trust experts. The experts lied to get sales, push universal vacc agenda, great reset, whatever. which has always been the plan; failed in past with MERS and SARS and will fail again. Except this time they did massive damage on many levels. Tragic and sad.
100% - which is why they used 6 months as the cutoff for the clinical trials and eliminated the control group.
Yes. And now they are in a panic to eliminate the current control group. There is a massive fight ahead. I am truly concerned about the release of another pathogen to cover up this current failure.
As am I. And why not? A deadlier disease next time. I think it's inevitable.
I didn’t know that a shot can’t stop a nasal infection- thank you for
posting that!
The heavy reading, if interested: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm1213
Dang, that's a good link! And I can understand it!
Then why do they promote flu shots
The usual. Filthy lucre! And barriers to entry are high. What's not to like? (from the pharmaceutical industry's point of view)
Bill Gates is pretty smart (if amoral) he's doubled his money just in the last 3 years, JUST from vaccines!
We are talking multiple BILLIONS. Money like that has a way of desensitizing morals, strangely enough!
Get ready for their roll out of the universal flu vaccine.
It’s why there’s no cure for the common cold...another variant of a coronavirus. 🥴
There is an Israeli company testing an oral vaccine. Engaging the mucosae of the digestive system seems worth a try. Trials are being set up in South Africa and Mexico.
Oh, please, NO! No more boosters, no more "vaccines" for basically a cold/flu that most people will easily get through with nothing and which has a whole panoply of effective treatments if people are allowed to get them. Isn't it about time we shut down this whole pharmaceutical scam machine and put these people in prison for life?
I generally share your view, Martha. But this avenue sounds the most benign. It probably will be suppressed for that reason.
Sorry, nothing benign has come out of this industry in decades. The overweening arrogance of thinking that our amazing bodies and their magnificently designed immune systems can--nay, must--be improved by the machinations of Dunning-Krueger sufferers with totalitarian ambitions is a deadly plague that must be crushed before it destroys the world.
Yes Martha. This is the worst outcome of all this. Why do so many have such little faith in the miracle that is our immune systems? The focus should be on keeping them strong.
Screwing around with your digestive system is the WORST thing you could do. Most of your immune system IS IN YOUR GUT.
Dr Sabine hazan believes this
Where life is cheap, and the unfortunates can be easily be bought off. It's NOT a "coincidence" that they pick 3rd world countries for "trials".
Read RFK Jr's book, "The REAL Anthony Fauci". It will OPEN your eyes!
In the early days of this, as I became an involuntary student of virology, I read a paper (proper, peer-reviewed) about all-cause mortality in West Africa from the DTP vaccine. Evidently, no one cared. This has indeed been brewing for some time.
The media didn’t care to direct our gullible attention spans. Believe me when I say - I DO CARE. Reminds me of AIDS and AZT. I’d bet most of those under 50 - 60 know almost nothing about that tyranny.
It’s starting to look like an experiment on a fraction of the population that would not attract widespread attention. I’m among the guilty; it passed me by.
Sounds great. Truly a life-saving game-changer.
I won't be taking it and any attempts to coerce me or my family will fail.
"they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil:" II Timothy 6:9-10, KJV
Yes but aren’t traditional vaccines different or am I still believing medical propaganda? My understanding is that most other vaccines ARE sterilyzing, i.e. they do produce personal immunity for the recipient even if a person can still transmit the disease. I had heard that even old style attenuated or killed virus vaxes don’t produce non-transmissibility. For example, whooping cough, my understanding is a 6 year old gets vaxxed and he is protected but his little 3 yr old brother can still get it from the 6 yr old. In fact can even die. Am I correct?
Yes, traditional vaccines are different both in the way they work and in their generally expected sterilising effect. As I understand it, an interesting exception is polio: one type is sterilising and the other type is not but has low side-effect rates. This is why, until the 90s, the U.S. had a regimen of administering both oral and injectable polio vaccines, in order to minimise side-effects while
avoiding the systemic risk of non-sterilising vaccines.
That's a great summation of what happened. Fauci is a SHILL for the pharmaceutical industry, and always has been. It's ALL about profit.
Who CARES if it works? The profit is the only thing that counts. The companies have total immunization
for lawsuits, so why should they care?
Their attitude? "Fuck them if they can't take a joke"
Also, how do they know it reduces the severity of disease? I don't remember any studies that addressed this, and the proposition seems otherwise to be non-falsifiable - which is the opposite of science. Even if there are studies, how were those studies designed? Do they control for selection bias and the fact that people obsessed with their health and thereby more likely to take the vaccine probably wouldn't have severe illness regardless? The fact that blacks and Latinos - sorry, Latinxs - are more likely to be vaccine hesitant and also more likely to be vitamin D deficient, which can contribute to increased severity? Where is this study, because I'd like to see it.
Don't say Latinx even as a fucking joke. Every time someone says "Latinx," everyone involved loses a brain cell, and they only give you so many of those and you don't get any new ones when you run out.
What if I say it three times in the mirror? Does a drag queen story hour manifest in my living room??
No, you get a scholarship to Stanford, where you will spend the rest of your natural life confined to a dorm room wearing a mask alone.
Where they will pay you a salary to learn but in exchange reject all medical exemption requests regardless of what your longterm personal doctors say and reject your religious exemption request because once you decide how scripture applies to you it is no longer a religion but a personal philosophy. You will be required to wear an N95 on campus (outdoors) test once a week and rush to get boosted at the drop of a pin, you really don't want to lose your funding. Bonus points if you join Team Kool Aid and preach
You are not kidding. A WHOLE generation.
I wish more people had decided not to buy into the "phobia" appendage and the "anti" prefix either.
Glad to read you are okay, and still hilarious.
Right back at you. Merry belated Christmas and happy new year.
Apparently if you say "LatinX" odds are vast that you are a liberal. Just saying.
Pronouns in bio is a pretty good sign too.
If you need to object in Comintern: "The appropriation of gendered romance languages by ignorant white feminist colonizers is not appropriate. Hate has no home here!"
Now I feel dirty.
I've been asking this question forever, it seems, i.e., "How do we know the severity is less? What is the standard against which we're measuring, how are we measuring, and on what kinds of test groups and control groups?" Not only haven't I gotten any answers, but I haven't even been able to get anyone to take the questions seriously -- or maybe to understand them.
Plus the symptoms of Covid differ for every person. Once you are vaccinated you can make no claim that your symptoms were less severe than they would have been without the vaccination because you can’t compare it to yourself and what your symptoms would have been like without it. Comparing your Covid “breakthrough” infection to an unvaccinated persons infection is not a true comparison.
Got it in a nutshell !!
As such this hypothesis is not falsifiable, an absolute requirement for a valid scientific hypothesis.
This might help you:
https://email.mg2.substack.com/c/eJwlkd3OpCAMhq9mOMMAojgHHHwnexumQlUyAi4_n5m9-mWchBRo-7bNUwMFt5je-oy5kI-Zy_tEHfDKB5aCidSMaXZWD0_ZPyVnxGpp-TRMxOV5TYge3KFLqkjOuhzOQHEx3IqpF4yRXSvB1KKewJiVCx_WRU5ccd4zWPp-aZXuxlCtw2BQ4y-mdwxIDr2XcuZH__MQf9q5rqszEMA6CCb-OmsgIRzH54tdTFvL8diiNGGONRnMzVN2pOfq_mGiLkRTj3vATNeY6F2F8if1MSHdIXladgh0i9FS0cTEacEE50I8uRS8V53ocMCBw8RGHFcJdupeXkWnzPmQzG-iy3XJBcyrM9GTpC0utprX39pcLePzviON1txuX4Mr7xkDLAfaL8jy3ceNdt4wYGp7sjMUzUfJ1KQUU2ocvtwaaTn2TAk-kNbaxqYKOl0ejgbR2__avKU0
They have a PDF on their site that includes links to all the supportive documentation
I think it was Mark Twain who said it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his financial future depends on him NOT understanding it. This a paraphrase, of course.
Upton Sinclair:
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
It doesn't reduce mortality and severity, that has been disproven with results from Israel and Scotland, sorry I can't provide link right now, but that info can be found in lots of alternate sites now.
It seems to me that Fauci&Co make a clear effort not to outright lie, but still to keep the people believing that the vaccines prevent transmission and infectiousness. Many people still believe that.
It is quite nefarious.
It is the motte-and-bailey way of arguing, so beloved for years now in academia, politics, and the media.
E.g. Toxic Whiteness ("....but we do not mean all whites are toxic, just the racist structures we call white")
Sex and Gender ("....we do not mean that sex is a social construct, but the concept of male-female behaviour")
and of course the all time hit "that wasn't real socialism"
Tony will ABSOLUTELY lie outright. Have you watched the Rand Paul-Fauci interchange, when he denied funding Eco-health alliance to avoid the "gain of function" pause started by Obama in (I think) 2014.?
He very loudly denies it, and says Paul doesn't know what he's talking about.
The guy just LIES.
He will say the exact opposite thing on different days of the week, brazenly pretending he didn't. If called out, he smiles and says, "Yes, I lied. But I did it because X..."
His groupies and fanboys deny that he does this or rabidly defend him. Fauci is the pope of the Covidians.
Sorry, I disagree. They lie, repeatedly.
Good comment!
The vaccines were never trialed for transmission. Remember. Pfizer got its EUA based on relative effectiveness using symptomatic cases as the primary endpoint Where a symptomatic case was a positive test and at least one non-specific symptom like a sniffle, cough, fever etc. It's not entirely clear to me that anyone in either trial cohort was hospitalized during the period it took to reach a total of 170 cases. Data showed 9 severe cases of covid in the placebo cohort and 1 in the vax cohort, but it wasn't clear if any needed hospitalization. No one died in either cohort. What no one specifically said was that the 9 severe cases were out of about 21,700 people in the placebo arm. So your chances of getting a severe case if unvaxxed were only 9/21,700 or .04%. For this risk, how much vaccine risk would you be willing to take?
UK: Vaccine effectiveness ZERO for hospitalization
That happened quickly
https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/uk-vaccine-effectiveness-zero-for
OMG, information is coming in RAPIDLY now! What will they DO when everybody, even Joe Smoe on the street corner realizes the 'vaccines' are BS?
I think that they will have to change the subject. Anybody think a non violent 'subject change' is probable or possible? Anything less will mostly be ignored, IMO. And it seems like it would be foolish to wait until EVERYBODY knew it was BS.
although, I think it was Yogi Berra who said, "prognostication's are difficult, especially if it's the future" (admittedly paraphrased but think the idea is same <smile>)
Yep. The conflicting narratives made me suspicious. What I learned about Bill Gates's "philanthropy" around the world scared me. I' decided not to get those shots.
Also the term ‘breakthrough infections’ exists because the shots were supposed to stop infection, no?
So glad you and a hearty cohort of others diligently track what will surely become unbelievable history. I work in pharma and specifically with vaccines, cell and gene therapy. It's hard to describe how many of my colleagues, most MD, PhD or both have completely lost all ability to critically think and have bought into the complete misinformation Fauci and government figureheads are spewing. Where is Galt's Gulch?
Ombrew...when you find it let me know. I’ll be packing.
Truly my comment isn’t meant to offend but it will probably sound that way: how do you keep working for that industry?
Thx for asking. Ive been asking myself that for a while now. I've been answering myself in 2 defeating ways: a) I actually do some cool stuff. Just this week my labs received extraordinarily positive results on 3 in vivo non clinical studies which appear game changing for possible permanent cure for a rare disease. The work was result of 5+ yrs effort and a ton of failures. If lucky, in a year or so, we'll get into clinic for phase 1/2 trials. The reality is however b). B goes like this: I spent +12 yrs in school training, have many bills, and family obligations I impose upon myself. The jobs pay very well and I haven't found the guts to stand up and say enough of the BS and go find another job. I'm guessing me, and millions more like me, are the actual problem bc we're easy prey and end up complying. (Ever see the film/book The Firm?).
Because you asked, there is another aspect I can't explain other than to hypothesize some people have actually been brainwashed. For example, of the team that achieved awesome results on our gene therapy, when confronted as to why the same rigorous studies and standards weren't applied to any of the main Covid vaccines, most have no answer; several say we just need to be cautious and do what we're told; a smaller number appear to agree, or agree privately that something is highly wrong but prefer to say. 'I'd rather not discuss'.
Until that attitude is understood and dealt with, the problems will likely continue. Best answer I can offer. Spread courage.
COVID injections clearly don't qualify as vaccines by any stretch of the imagination. A successful vaccine would be very safe while affording durable immunity. COVID injections have proven dreadfully dangerous in the short term (see VAERS) with medium and long term danger still unknown all while any efficacy wanes rapidly. Worse still recent data suggests negative efficacy, meaning those injected are now more easily infected by SARS2 than they would have been. Injection crusaders, like Fauci, are the actual plague upon human society.
If you really want to understand the details of what the cat man is saying, please read RFK's book "The Real Anthony Fauci". You can't pin this on one man, even one as corrupt and incompetent as Fauci. This is a pharma-industrial complex comprise