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Rob D's avatar

One word: Food. And if you live somewhere with a growing season that allows you to grow food most of the year... stand firm and stand strong. Don't let people convince you to leave your home. Moving to a place that looks "free" with a growing season of 3 months long and no water is probably not a wise choice. Talk about a "dark winter". I grew up poor in that type of climate. And I assure you, it is NOT easy. Please think carefully about packing up and moving to the mountains or the high desert with growing season 2 or 3. (Especially if you live in a decent suburb or small community in one of those states that has a growing season).

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Sue's avatar

Water is more important than food. Air even more so.

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Rose Loomis's avatar

Maybe we should all claim disability from long COVID. We all claim we had Covid and bow would they trace that to prove we didn’t? Is the government really able to trace and track every single COVID test? Collapse the system by claiming disability. If all of us do it then what?

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Jonas Gwin's avatar

This. As much as I Do understand the desire to move to less authoritarian places, we are making a mistake by giving up the temperate and coastal areas of the United States to the captured and psychopathic. We need to be doing the opposite. We need to invade rather than evade. If we do not liberate at least some of the coastal states we will lose those bioregions and their economic riches for good and forever be at a disadvantage to their consolidated power.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Cool temperate here but the growing season is a little longer than we're given credit for. I'm not going to boast too much though, I might need to protect the garden at some stage.

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Richard Seager's avatar

Also make sure you that you have water stored up. Taps can be turned off.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Yes it can but worse can follow. Old story now from Florida I think. A women decide too live off the grid. Used no public utilities except perhaps sewage. She was arrested.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Going from memory. If anyone remembers the details, they might be useful here.

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Richard Seager's avatar

There have been some grid issues (electricity) here in the last few decades. The system doesn't seem to like you outside their system.

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Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

As a US citizen living abroad, I have learned an ugly reality that applies to this is. We are considered not citizens nor even slaves, but property of the State. It is our born responsibility to participate in certain social structures to support the power structure. Who would be shocked how angry my (our?) fellow Americans are at the fact that I pay taxes to Japan, the country I reside in. They blame me and all USCs living abroad for the poor state of the infrastructure, schools education, every thing in the US. renouncing US citizenship triggers all sorts of unbelievable and absurd costs. In short, the US demands a certain amount of revenue throughout the lifetime its citizens. You can leave but not before you pay Uncle Sam the amount of revenue he loses by your departure. So I am not at all surprised by the story in Florida and by what you are telling me. Don’t need a public service? Tough, you have to pay for it anyway. If you don’t, they’ll shut off the ones you do need and pay for. You MUST pay a certain amount to your owner, the State, each month. Period.

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