1) Heard the same thing that prophylaxis treatment with covid drugs (Ivermectin mostly) might help.
2) If all those people REALLY took more than one jab, maybe ER get the unintended great reset...
I like ivermectin for occasional emergency use. But I hate it for ongoing use because it's bad for your mitochondria. All of the things they're using to get rid of the spike proteins are bad for your mitochondria if you use them on an ongoing basis.
I've found your comments here quite valuable, Arnold. Both your mining town suggestion and your New World Scenario are very helpful.
Do you have any research to back up that comment about IVM and mitochondria? I've followed IVM closely for the past 2 years and haven't seen a word about this.
David, here's a discussion of a study published in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications. They used ivermectin to treat chronic myeloid leukemia and it helped -- it induced apoptosis in the leukemia cells and their stem/progenitor cells.
But the way it induced apoptosis was through oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction.
The authors thought that was great. Just use mitochondrial dysfunction to cure the cancer. But the problem is that mitochondrial dysfunction causes cancer. Here's a discussion of a study that showed the immune failure seen in cancer is caused by cancer cells depriving immune cells of energy by devouring their mitochondria.
My wife, who started life in science, cured her own glioblastoma and then, three years later, the glioblastoma of a friend's mother (who'd been sent home to die, given three months to live) with aspirin, of all things. Aspirin stimulates mitochondrial respiration. It can inhibit abnormal cell division, but promote normal cell division. In both cases, scans were free of tumors within a month and blood tests were back within normal range.
Essentially cancer seems to be devolution of cells to a more primitive state as a response to lack of energy. Help out your mitochondria and your cells have enough energy to return to full functioning and a non-cancerous state.
"Aspirin elevated ATP levels not only in intact cortical neurons but also in isolated brain mitochondria, an effect concomitant with an increase in NADH-dependent respiration by brain submitochondrial particles."
Neuropharmacology 2000 Apr 27;39(7):1309-18. Mechanisms of the neuroprotective effect of aspirin after oxygen and glucose deprivation in rat forebrain slices. Moro MA, De Alba J, Cardenas A, De Cristobal J, Leza JC, Lizasoain I, Diaz-Guerra MJ, Bosca L, Lorenzo P
So I'm wary of prolonged use of ivermectin because to me the rock bottom basis of good health is good mitochondrial function.
On the other hand, in this study they found ivermectin maintained mitochondrial ATP levels under SARS-CoV-2 hypoxia in cardiomyocytes, preventing heart failure.
I certainly agree that maintaining mitochondrial ATP levels would work wonders for Covid patients. I just don't see how you get there when other studies are showing mitochondrial dysfunction from ivermectin.
I deeply appreciate your providing these resources. They should be especially helpful to a friend whose wife has cancer, and won't use IVM without more studies. Even though I've seen one survey paper, I was unaware of these other ones. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
One article I saw referenced selective apoptosis, so perhaps IVM attacks only deregulated cells. In any event, I've been on long-term prophylaxis and had no adverse effects. None have been reported by the FLCCC.
Here's a bonus: articles on cancer cell metabolism:
Used an hour or two before the ivermectin dose, the tetracycline appears to prevent ivermectin from inhibiting mitochondria without inhibiting the other useful effects of ivermectin.
Since tetracycline works, Vit. K2 ought to work. Your success with ivermectin and lack of mitochondrial inhibition may be due to something as simple as a good diet.
Two thoughts...
1) Heard the same thing that prophylaxis treatment with covid drugs (Ivermectin mostly) might help.
2) If all those people REALLY took more than one jab, maybe ER get the unintended great reset...
I like ivermectin for occasional emergency use. But I hate it for ongoing use because it's bad for your mitochondria. All of the things they're using to get rid of the spike proteins are bad for your mitochondria if you use them on an ongoing basis.
Those shots are diabolical.
I've found your comments here quite valuable, Arnold. Both your mining town suggestion and your New World Scenario are very helpful.
Do you have any research to back up that comment about IVM and mitochondria? I've followed IVM closely for the past 2 years and haven't seen a word about this.
David, here's a discussion of a study published in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications. They used ivermectin to treat chronic myeloid leukemia and it helped -- it induced apoptosis in the leukemia cells and their stem/progenitor cells.
But the way it induced apoptosis was through oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction.
https://www.cancertherapyadvisor.com/home/cancer-topics/chronic-myeloid-leukemia/ivermectin-induces-apoptosis-through-mitochondrial-dysfunction-in-cml-cells/
Same thing in this study of esophageal squamous cell carcinoma. Ivermectin induced apoptosis through mitochondrial dysfunction.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8650430/
Same thing in this study of ivermectin for cervical cancer:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0041008X22002186
The authors thought that was great. Just use mitochondrial dysfunction to cure the cancer. But the problem is that mitochondrial dysfunction causes cancer. Here's a discussion of a study that showed the immune failure seen in cancer is caused by cancer cells depriving immune cells of energy by devouring their mitochondria.
http://haidut.me/?p=1696
My wife, who started life in science, cured her own glioblastoma and then, three years later, the glioblastoma of a friend's mother (who'd been sent home to die, given three months to live) with aspirin, of all things. Aspirin stimulates mitochondrial respiration. It can inhibit abnormal cell division, but promote normal cell division. In both cases, scans were free of tumors within a month and blood tests were back within normal range.
Essentially cancer seems to be devolution of cells to a more primitive state as a response to lack of energy. Help out your mitochondria and your cells have enough energy to return to full functioning and a non-cancerous state.
"Aspirin elevated ATP levels not only in intact cortical neurons but also in isolated brain mitochondria, an effect concomitant with an increase in NADH-dependent respiration by brain submitochondrial particles."
Neuropharmacology 2000 Apr 27;39(7):1309-18. Mechanisms of the neuroprotective effect of aspirin after oxygen and glucose deprivation in rat forebrain slices. Moro MA, De Alba J, Cardenas A, De Cristobal J, Leza JC, Lizasoain I, Diaz-Guerra MJ, Bosca L, Lorenzo P
So I'm wary of prolonged use of ivermectin because to me the rock bottom basis of good health is good mitochondrial function.
On the other hand, in this study they found ivermectin maintained mitochondrial ATP levels under SARS-CoV-2 hypoxia in cardiomyocytes, preventing heart failure.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(17)30376-6/fulltext
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28942281/
I certainly agree that maintaining mitochondrial ATP levels would work wonders for Covid patients. I just don't see how you get there when other studies are showing mitochondrial dysfunction from ivermectin.
I deeply appreciate your providing these resources. They should be especially helpful to a friend whose wife has cancer, and won't use IVM without more studies. Even though I've seen one survey paper, I was unaware of these other ones. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7505114/
One article I saw referenced selective apoptosis, so perhaps IVM attacks only deregulated cells. In any event, I've been on long-term prophylaxis and had no adverse effects. None have been reported by the FLCCC.
Here's a bonus: articles on cancer cell metabolism:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/warburg-effect-cancer
https://www.townsendletter.com/AugSept2016/canceradapt0816.html
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/Cancer_a_Redox_Disease.php
Thanks again. I will start reading these now.
Thanks for the links, David. You might want to look at this about the use of ivermectin with tetracycline:
https://shareok.org/handle/11244/330994
Used an hour or two before the ivermectin dose, the tetracycline appears to prevent ivermectin from inhibiting mitochondria without inhibiting the other useful effects of ivermectin.
Since tetracycline works, Vit. K2 ought to work. Your success with ivermectin and lack of mitochondrial inhibition may be due to something as simple as a good diet.
I will share these resources with Dr. Paul Marik. Thank you.