But is it true that chicken pox in childhood can cause shingles later in life? If so, is that a good reason to get that particular vaccine in childhood?
But is it true that chicken pox in childhood can cause shingles later in life? If so, is that a good reason to get that particular vaccine in childhood?
I'm not sure what to think about shingles. I'm 72 and when I was 5 or 6 in the 1950's there weren't yet vaccines, so I got both measles and chicken pox, as did my sister who was born in 1958. She got shingles in her late 20's, and I got a couple of spots in my 60's that my doctor claimed looked like shingles. In any case, neither of us ever had a vaccine for chicken pox.
The varicella zoster virus causes chickenpox, but survives in you like a herpes virus. When you are old or have your immune system down for whatever reason then you get shingles. It is normal to get the vaccine at 50, so you avoid the shingles.
I thought that the chicken pox vaccine was only given to people who really need it, such as people in a transplant list before the transplant. The vaccine effectiveness is variable and getting the chicken pox later in life is dangerous, and it spreads so easily that it is better to just let it run. It is not really dangerous and probably safer than the vaccine.
One theory that's been proposed is that prior to the introduction of the chickenpox vaccine (i.e. when children are allowed to become naturally infected with chickenpox), the circulating virus provoked an immune response in the people who had already had chickenpox, keeping the virus from being reactivated in the form of shingles. With the introduction of the chickenpox vaccine, the virus was no longer freely circulating, and the rates have shingles have risen.
this is true. The vaccine has made a resurgence of shingles happen by suppressing the childhood virus that helps keep at bay. But guess what, they created a shingles vaccine to sell to you when you are 50, so don't worry . It's almost like it was.... by design....
They keep dropping the recommended age for the shingles vax (I believe it was originally suggested for тАЬthose over 65тАЭ when they first released it, and now itтАЩs down to 50тАжand now IтАЩm seeing local docs saying they recommend it тАЬby 45тАЭ). Likely because itтАЩs become apparent that without circulating CP, shingles rears its head even earlier in life.
yes, it makes me think that we need to expose ourselves to the communities who don't vaccinate their kids for chicken pox so that we can stave off shingles later without the need for a vax. Bring back chicken pox parties....
The same downward trend is true for colon cancer screening according to the ads selling the tests. My sense is that we are sicker as a population with each passing year and things which were once in older people are moving into younger groups. Things like obesity and diabetes once extraordinarily rare in children are now epidemic in kids. Obese toddlers should inspire more research into cause not drugs in pediatric doses.
Truly. We are sicker and sicker as a whole but health authorities point to our prolonged lifespan as evidence that we aren't. We are propped up in our last 4 decades with pharmaceuticals it seems.
Anecdotal but still valid indicator. I'm an old boomer who was dragged to infected neighbor homes for measles, mumps, chicken pox and never have had shingles. When my two oldest kids caught chicken pox it was short w full recovery and I was fine. My youngest missed that infection, got a vax for school at age 5 and got shingles at age 28 so in our family the results don't mirror pharma claims.
But is it true that chicken pox in childhood can cause shingles later in life? If so, is that a good reason to get that particular vaccine in childhood?
That is what vaccine cultists say but it isn't true. Why is shingles on the rise in young adults? It's because of the chickenpox vaccine
I'm not sure what to think about shingles. I'm 72 and when I was 5 or 6 in the 1950's there weren't yet vaccines, so I got both measles and chicken pox, as did my sister who was born in 1958. She got shingles in her late 20's, and I got a couple of spots in my 60's that my doctor claimed looked like shingles. In any case, neither of us ever had a vaccine for chicken pox.
The varicella zoster virus causes chickenpox, but survives in you like a herpes virus. When you are old or have your immune system down for whatever reason then you get shingles. It is normal to get the vaccine at 50, so you avoid the shingles.
I thought that the chicken pox vaccine was only given to people who really need it, such as people in a transplant list before the transplant. The vaccine effectiveness is variable and getting the chicken pox later in life is dangerous, and it spreads so easily that it is better to just let it run. It is not really dangerous and probably safer than the vaccine.
One theory that's been proposed is that prior to the introduction of the chickenpox vaccine (i.e. when children are allowed to become naturally infected with chickenpox), the circulating virus provoked an immune response in the people who had already had chickenpox, keeping the virus from being reactivated in the form of shingles. With the introduction of the chickenpox vaccine, the virus was no longer freely circulating, and the rates have shingles have risen.
this is true. The vaccine has made a resurgence of shingles happen by suppressing the childhood virus that helps keep at bay. But guess what, they created a shingles vaccine to sell to you when you are 50, so don't worry . It's almost like it was.... by design....
They keep dropping the recommended age for the shingles vax (I believe it was originally suggested for тАЬthose over 65тАЭ when they first released it, and now itтАЩs down to 50тАжand now IтАЩm seeing local docs saying they recommend it тАЬby 45тАЭ). Likely because itтАЩs become apparent that without circulating CP, shingles rears its head even earlier in life.
yes, it makes me think that we need to expose ourselves to the communities who don't vaccinate their kids for chicken pox so that we can stave off shingles later without the need for a vax. Bring back chicken pox parties....
The same downward trend is true for colon cancer screening according to the ads selling the tests. My sense is that we are sicker as a population with each passing year and things which were once in older people are moving into younger groups. Things like obesity and diabetes once extraordinarily rare in children are now epidemic in kids. Obese toddlers should inspire more research into cause not drugs in pediatric doses.
Truly. We are sicker and sicker as a whole but health authorities point to our prolonged lifespan as evidence that we aren't. We are propped up in our last 4 decades with pharmaceuticals it seems.
Anecdotal but still valid indicator. I'm an old boomer who was dragged to infected neighbor homes for measles, mumps, chicken pox and never have had shingles. When my two oldest kids caught chicken pox it was short w full recovery and I was fine. My youngest missed that infection, got a vax for school at age 5 and got shingles at age 28 so in our family the results don't mirror pharma claims.