I find the flip-flop of the yoga moms in Marin County and elsewhere to be one of the more confusing aspects of this time. The so-called anti-vaxx movement was from the left. I'm sure there were people on the right who were opposed to some or all of the childhood vaccine schedule, but they were not the public voice. Now the kale-eating…
I find the flip-flop of the yoga moms in Marin County and elsewhere to be one of the more confusing aspects of this time. The so-called anti-vaxx movement was from the left. I'm sure there were people on the right who were opposed to some or all of the childhood vaccine schedule, but they were not the public voice. Now the kale-eating, vegan yoga moms are signing up their five-year-olds for an experimental gene therapies to protect them from a virus that doesn't threaten them. The world has gone mad.
No joke. Anecdote. I have a business partner who won’t even give her child Dramamine for carsickness and leans on homeopathy for his colds. Fully vaccine cult despite exposure to “discrepancies” in the truth. Wants teachers fired for not complying and has surely gotten her son signed up.
Working with her makes me wonder if I now understand what it’s like to be black in the 50s and on friendly terms with a clansman.
Oh I have a European brother in law who forages in nature for natural “remedies” (such as wild garlic to cure a hangover) because he won’t take any medications or drugs. Guess what he already did? Yep got his two kids jabbed.
My guess is that it depends on what their original reasons for not vaxxing were. If they just chose not to because all the other moms in their social circle were doing it and it "felt" more natural, then it is no surprise that they flip-flopped. But the ones who really did the research and understood the (lack) of science behind them and/or had a child or family member injured by a jab - they aren't lining up for the covid vax.
There are several “Mysteries of Covidia” that we will never get an answer to but in my mind, this is one of the top five for the very reasons you outline. Now the hippie granola yoga types avidly support the vaccines and prohibiting the ability of others to earn a living and feed their own children if they choose not to get vaccinated. It’s perverse.
Hmm that may be a sub section of yoga folks, but there are definitely also genuine followers who do it because it helps them with mental health issues or chronic illness
The hippie natural homeopathic non-GMO spiritual anti-govt. individual that went off the deep end in 2020 and ditched all to trust govt. with an experimental shot given by Big Pharma is the most astonishing specimen of this debacle.
I live in Texas. 100% of the moms in the "crunchy moms" group I'm in either never vaccinated their children or stopped vaccinating their children. Some moms are vegan, most aren't. All are health conscious and eat organic. I'd say about 95% are conservative Christian. A couple of blue cancer liberal refugees from California who didn't learn the lesson.
I don't doubt there are conservative Christians who oppose the ACIP vaccination schedule for children. Frankly, all of us should. I'm merely stating the the public face of the anti-vaxx movement was on the left. Robert Kennedy, Jr., is a strong voice on Team Reality...but many of the yoga moms are covidians. It makes no sense.
Regardless, it’s interesting to see who’s caving to The Science™️ and who isn’t. It made me think: Who’s lining up to vax their kids?
I wondered: “Who’s completely bought into this utterly irresponsible and potentially deadly narrative?” And I thought: Women like my sister.
My sister is a type: though she’d kill me for saying so, she’s the Original Karen (“OK”). You know the type: assertive, opinionated, usually white, though sometimes Asian, but rarely (if ever) black or Hispanic. They’re college-educated and are firm believers in experts, data-driven *everything*, The Science™️, annual physicals, Preventive Medicine™️, and endlessly subjecting their offspring to dysfunction assessments to allow for “early intervention”. They’re a big part of the reason why TED Talks™️, Neil DeGrasse-Tyson™️, and SpaceX™️ are ubiquitous. Paradoxically, these same critical thinkers <derp> will spend $thousands$ on essential oils to use as a “first-line treatment”.
These women still use social media, get BoTox injections, collagen fillers, liposuction and tummy tucks. They’re completely invested in the System, and they shop at Whole Foods or Co-Ops.
These “high-information voters” are the same mothers who’d put their kid on puberty blockers in a heartbeat, or, if it were the 90s, would have drugged their darlings into oblivion with SSRIs or Ritalin if an “expert” told them to do so.
So…what do you think? Are there enough parents like that to sustain this mandate, or am I missing a group?
I know loads of Hispanic OKs unfortunately. My mother-in-law is the only person in her circle who is unjabbed. Her "friends"- mostly affluent immigrants from Latin America- are being SO MEAN to her. It breaks my heart. They hardly ever meet in person but when they do they make a big deal about wearing two masks around her and not touching her and nagging her to just get jabbed already. And they keep getting COVID! My mother-in-law is lovely and I'd wish she'd find some new friends.
Although.....is the idea that the anti-vaxx movement originated with the left a fair assumption? I haven't looked much into it, but for some reason I had the idea that the anti-vaxx groups were more or less associated with the "religious right" (for lack of a better term).
I don't think it's fair to lump all who object to vaccines into one group. Jenny McCarthy has been a prominent voice. Robert Kennedy, Jr., is another. Yes, there are some religious groups that oppose all vaccines...but I didn't see the Amish or Seventh Day Adventists testifying before Congress. The public face was definitely from the left.
As an aside, I have known for a long time that Robert Kennedy, Jr. is fiercely anti-vax. I know little about him or his politics, but have assumed he was Democrat. However....I just received Dr. Mercola's new book and Kennedy wrote a 3 or 4 page forward to it that is really quite incredible and totally hits the nail on the head about what is going on. It's well worth reading!
Bobby isn't anti-vax he is a lawyer who was involved suing industrial polluters and parents recruited him to look into mercury in vaccines where he found the same deep scientific fraud as the toxic chemicals. He is pro public protection, pro-science and anti-vax label was coined by Big Pharma in 2005 in response to Bobby's article "Deadly Immunity" that ran in Rolling Stone & Salon.
Salon pulled it under pressure in 2011 and Rolling Stone pulled it in 2020 because "vaccine hesitancy" but 2017 copy is posted at CHD.
It's an odd coalition. You have Pamela Andersons, Robert Kennedy Jrs, but you're right, I also know Christian homeschoolers who have been anti vax (I mean, before covid, which I don't even consider a vax).
I find the flip-flop of the yoga moms in Marin County and elsewhere to be one of the more confusing aspects of this time. The so-called anti-vaxx movement was from the left. I'm sure there were people on the right who were opposed to some or all of the childhood vaccine schedule, but they were not the public voice. Now the kale-eating, vegan yoga moms are signing up their five-year-olds for an experimental gene therapies to protect them from a virus that doesn't threaten them. The world has gone mad.
No joke. Anecdote. I have a business partner who won’t even give her child Dramamine for carsickness and leans on homeopathy for his colds. Fully vaccine cult despite exposure to “discrepancies” in the truth. Wants teachers fired for not complying and has surely gotten her son signed up.
Working with her makes me wonder if I now understand what it’s like to be black in the 50s and on friendly terms with a clansman.
Oh I have a European brother in law who forages in nature for natural “remedies” (such as wild garlic to cure a hangover) because he won’t take any medications or drugs. Guess what he already did? Yep got his two kids jabbed.
And I know of people who are anti-GMO food fanatics yet they rush to get the shots. Any disconnect there?
Plenty of them in the PNW. "They protested GMOs...now they are the GMOs."
Same in my community. I am completely baffled by this phenomenon. Every day I ask myself "what the hell is going on?"
My guess is that it depends on what their original reasons for not vaxxing were. If they just chose not to because all the other moms in their social circle were doing it and it "felt" more natural, then it is no surprise that they flip-flopped. But the ones who really did the research and understood the (lack) of science behind them and/or had a child or family member injured by a jab - they aren't lining up for the covid vax.
There are several “Mysteries of Covidia” that we will never get an answer to but in my mind, this is one of the top five for the very reasons you outline. Now the hippie granola yoga types avidly support the vaccines and prohibiting the ability of others to earn a living and feed their own children if they choose not to get vaccinated. It’s perverse.
Not so surprising if you consider yoga a fad for do-gooders, and the new fad is COVID hysteria. These are not people who slow down for introspection.
Hmm that may be a sub section of yoga folks, but there are definitely also genuine followers who do it because it helps them with mental health issues or chronic illness
The hippie natural homeopathic non-GMO spiritual anti-govt. individual that went off the deep end in 2020 and ditched all to trust govt. with an experimental shot given by Big Pharma is the most astonishing specimen of this debacle.
Living testament to the power of fear and propaganda to erase rational thinking.
I live in Texas. 100% of the moms in the "crunchy moms" group I'm in either never vaccinated their children or stopped vaccinating their children. Some moms are vegan, most aren't. All are health conscious and eat organic. I'd say about 95% are conservative Christian. A couple of blue cancer liberal refugees from California who didn't learn the lesson.
I don't doubt there are conservative Christians who oppose the ACIP vaccination schedule for children. Frankly, all of us should. I'm merely stating the the public face of the anti-vaxx movement was on the left. Robert Kennedy, Jr., is a strong voice on Team Reality...but many of the yoga moms are covidians. It makes no sense.
Regardless, it’s interesting to see who’s caving to The Science™️ and who isn’t. It made me think: Who’s lining up to vax their kids?
I wondered: “Who’s completely bought into this utterly irresponsible and potentially deadly narrative?” And I thought: Women like my sister.
My sister is a type: though she’d kill me for saying so, she’s the Original Karen (“OK”). You know the type: assertive, opinionated, usually white, though sometimes Asian, but rarely (if ever) black or Hispanic. They’re college-educated and are firm believers in experts, data-driven *everything*, The Science™️, annual physicals, Preventive Medicine™️, and endlessly subjecting their offspring to dysfunction assessments to allow for “early intervention”. They’re a big part of the reason why TED Talks™️, Neil DeGrasse-Tyson™️, and SpaceX™️ are ubiquitous. Paradoxically, these same critical thinkers <derp> will spend $thousands$ on essential oils to use as a “first-line treatment”.
These women still use social media, get BoTox injections, collagen fillers, liposuction and tummy tucks. They’re completely invested in the System, and they shop at Whole Foods or Co-Ops.
These “high-information voters” are the same mothers who’d put their kid on puberty blockers in a heartbeat, or, if it were the 90s, would have drugged their darlings into oblivion with SSRIs or Ritalin if an “expert” told them to do so.
So…what do you think? Are there enough parents like that to sustain this mandate, or am I missing a group?
I know loads of Hispanic OKs unfortunately. My mother-in-law is the only person in her circle who is unjabbed. Her "friends"- mostly affluent immigrants from Latin America- are being SO MEAN to her. It breaks my heart. They hardly ever meet in person but when they do they make a big deal about wearing two masks around her and not touching her and nagging her to just get jabbed already. And they keep getting COVID! My mother-in-law is lovely and I'd wish she'd find some new friends.
I’m so sorry to hear that…but it sounds like you lucked out, in-law-wise! ❤️
This is an interesting point that deserves further examination.
Although.....is the idea that the anti-vaxx movement originated with the left a fair assumption? I haven't looked much into it, but for some reason I had the idea that the anti-vaxx groups were more or less associated with the "religious right" (for lack of a better term).
I don't think it's fair to lump all who object to vaccines into one group. Jenny McCarthy has been a prominent voice. Robert Kennedy, Jr., is another. Yes, there are some religious groups that oppose all vaccines...but I didn't see the Amish or Seventh Day Adventists testifying before Congress. The public face was definitely from the left.
As an aside, I have known for a long time that Robert Kennedy, Jr. is fiercely anti-vax. I know little about him or his politics, but have assumed he was Democrat. However....I just received Dr. Mercola's new book and Kennedy wrote a 3 or 4 page forward to it that is really quite incredible and totally hits the nail on the head about what is going on. It's well worth reading!
Bobby isn't anti-vax he is a lawyer who was involved suing industrial polluters and parents recruited him to look into mercury in vaccines where he found the same deep scientific fraud as the toxic chemicals. He is pro public protection, pro-science and anti-vax label was coined by Big Pharma in 2005 in response to Bobby's article "Deadly Immunity" that ran in Rolling Stone & Salon.
Salon pulled it under pressure in 2011 and Rolling Stone pulled it in 2020 because "vaccine hesitancy" but 2017 copy is posted at CHD.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/deadly-immunity-government-cover-mercuryautism-scandal-2/
It's an odd coalition. You have Pamela Andersons, Robert Kennedy Jrs, but you're right, I also know Christian homeschoolers who have been anti vax (I mean, before covid, which I don't even consider a vax).
Truly, Palm. Good observations. And right-on.