The censorship stupidity that has conditioned the morons among us over the last six years or so to support not just corporate but also state censorship in the name of stopping "disinformation," is not a bipartisan phenomenon. It’s a liberal obsession, the "idée fixe" of Today’s Democratic Party. I’d also argue it’s one of the more defining elements of the liberal retreat into illiberal political bunkers, where they remain hunkered down in defensive positions against the First Amendment, churning out philippics demanding more rules and protocols and regulations because damnit, [insert person or thing they don't like] is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy™! I truly hope Musk cleans house. His woke employees at SpaceX tried to pull the same thing as these Twitter employees are and Musk immediately shut them down and fired the ring leaders.
For my part, I believe that the answer to objectionable media monopolies is often more competition. So I'm rooting for Parler, Gab, and Trump Social or whatever it's called. Along with ActivityPub, Urbit, and a thousand little hopeful monsters.
Frankly, even if this isn’t the beginning of less censorship on Twitter, it’s worth all the liberal tears and tantrums to see Musk take ownership! Absolutely loving it!
The only thing I disagree with is that the people shedding those tears are totalitarians, not liberals. The honorable old name of "liberal" only stretches so far.
The word "liberal" is now a pejorative in most circles I go to. I'm a bona fide leftist, a socialist, with tons of anarchy tossed n for good measure. Peace
He has mentioned a few times over the years that he wants to make an 'X' app, which encompasses everything. The way he explained this was that it would be not just a shopping app, or a social app, etc - it would be everything in one app. And that trust would be crucial to this, so he would want to "verify" users.
Now on the one hand it sounds great, right? ...snarky aspbergers billionaire guy could buy the lightning rod and turn it over to the people. And "verify" users, getting rid of the bots and consequent shell games. I do want that.
On the other hand, Musk has stated publicly that he is for making people upload their real world IDs to use Twitter, linking who you are to what you say in a hitherto not seen manner... and that he'd like to use this to turn Twitter into the basis for a commerce gateway. I'm not sure about this.
The free speech stuff is brill. The robots in every household, and the linking of your real world IDs to your social and your commerce profiles sounds like dystopia, honestly. I don't know what to make of Musk.
Exactly. James Corbett recently released a podcast about him. https://www.corbettreport.com/musk/. I'll be happy if Musk does some good, but to me he's still loving him some technocracy.
Thanks for that link btw. I read the attached Mathis article then proceeded to read at least 2 more. Sure it is a 7 year old article that just so happens to age like a fine Pinot Noir.
Ah yes, Miles... an endless source of high value speculation. Parallels his writeup on Zuck and the origins of FB. Miles sometimes takes his methodology a little too far, but his general notion of "Intelligence" aka "Phoenician Navy" as _the_ core mechanism of elite (bloodline) control over society and shaping events really connects a lot of dots. His piece on Karl Marx is brilliant.
I recommend people follow Zach Hubbard's work at his site https://gematriaeffect.news/ and on YT (most deleted channels of any YT user, he is up to channel 25 now). The Kabal can't resist stamping their work with their number/letters ritual magick, in mockery of "the profane" (the rest of us). His ebooks are exemplary for truth seekers to be grounded in. Ever wonder why in "Squid Games" they start with 500 contestants but only have 201 left alive after the first "game"? Zach's work explains why it was 201, as in Event 201.
I fear that 11-11-2022 is a marker date that has been dramatically spotlighted in public subliminal (ritual magick) messaging (also called "predictive programming"). The first two weeks of Nov 2022 may prove decisive for "initiating" the next configuration of their "Novus Ordo Seclorem" or "New World Order" as the Kabal describes it, an intentional crisis designed to bring a special "Sun King" ruler into full public awareness and acclaim. Two buildings became zero buildings became one building. Whose birthday is on the 216th day of the year? What is the cube root of 216?
I think the guy's a national treasure or something equivalent. But yeah he's prone to making leaps, so grains of salt are often indicated. And he doesn't cite his sources as carefully as I'd like, let alone archive them appropriately. Also he's got a colossal chip on his shoulder, but I think we can forgive him that.
I like to draw attention to that particular Musk essay from seven years back because it points out some easily verified big holes in Elon's cover story.
Elon Musk is playing a role. Don't be deceived. Hegalian dialect. He is herding the sceptics right down the path that ends up in the same place as everyone else.
But, as long as he's wearing the right jersey and sending favorable dogwhistles, err I mean virtue signals, we'll cheer him on and queue up to be reinstated into his birdcage.
Because if the last two years (or was it two centuries?) have taught us anything, it's that you CAN fool most of the people most of the time. Might just have fool them in different ways.
On the other hand, the very same as your other, as El. Musk is very much AI oriented, is this [frightening prospect] possibly a part of trust / verification? Much to consider here and it ain’t necessarily all... desirable?
Yes to some degree I think it is. Digital, integrated ID is a key goal of all the power players now. Information is the oil of this century — the rich want to be the information barons, and so do governments. In large part I think that's why we see increasingly blurred lines between the two power bases ...that are merging in the name of mutual self interest and total control.
Musk is big into AI, and would gleefully implant chips directly into our brains [Neuralink]. I like a lot of what he says off the cuff, but his technocratic world view + his autism + his astonishing wealth and power ...scares me.
I don't think he's of the same type as the 'Project for the New American Century' or the WEF psycopaths, yet we could virtually end up in the same place under Musk. There is potentially a common thread among them, in that they don't view humanity as something intrinsically of worth. They don't look at individuals and think they are of value, they look at them as 'things'... to be "optimised" / improved / removed / moved around to fit a more utilitarian ideal.
I view this as very anti-human, in the same way that the corporate-sponsored version of the Climate Change movement is deeply anti-human. It isn't about conservation, or making life better for all living things; it views humanity as a disgusting force to be tamed, beaten back, controlled, moderated. Yuk, no thanks to this ideology. Whilst I doubt Musk shares such an obviously eugenicist and considered motivation as the Gates' and the Schwab's of the world, nevertheless I don't cheer him as our new overlord, since he seems to want much of the same in terms of transhumanism and an AI-mediated version of human life.
I, too, don’t think Musk is quite of the same pathology as the more visible (?) enemy -and yet we still haven’t identified the very top by name, though we have some good old family guesses, so that small faction remains behind the curtain.
Although, typical of Aspies, he has unwavering focus and the bucks to pursue his darlings, I wonder if he’s reachable, persuadable about taking his foot off the gas until something something something about highest and best for humanity is discussed, not merely forging ahead in a bubble? What do I know? Not to mention I haven’t been invited to the table.
I do have hope though. Gotta. Until the deal’s done. I pray a lot, staying out of fear, knowing I could make my exit any minute. I don’t know what The Plan is!!!! 😂 but I’m going down fighting. Their fantasy world is not for me!
Musk sold one of the companies that eventually became PayPal, and I've seen somewhere I can't remember that he tried to buy it, which is interesting because of the recent PayPal release saying they were going to fine people $2500 for "misinformation."
They already have so many users with pseudonymous / anonymous accounts, I don't know they could require a confirmed identity, but I could see it as a way to open up the check mark system to everyone who provides ID (Apple's latest iOS enables apps to request identity info from your identity card in your Apple wallet (only 2 US states support it so far). They might also enable users to de-prioritize non confirmed accounts in their feed and comments.
That last sentence is one of several scary aspects of the inevitable digital ID push... eventually only people who are all-in corrupt or too dumb know what's happening will be able to voice their opinions in any meaningfully visible channel.
Same here. Few if any really understand Musk, and he's very unpredictable. For me it's observe and verify before trusting him, as it is with pretty much everything else these days.
That said, I am not inspired to Elon Musk faith. In fact, I trust him no further I can shove my snoring deeply-sleeping 250 lb husband back onto his half of the bed. Not an inch.
What most people don't know and was not mentioned was this wave of layoffs was inevitable no matter who 'owned' Twitter....their current management was planning this if the sale did not go through as a business reality . . . their woke workers facing layoffs should be both suspicious about and ticked off at is how quickly the rats at the helm grabbed the loot Musk et. al. offered and jumped the listing ship that Twitter is . . . or more accurately the rats jumped onto their corporate jets and fled the scene . . . anyone inside Twitter not holding a decent amount of stock to make a Golden Parachute was left to fend for themselves....
I do hope all the good people who migrated to Substack will remain on Substack, because I never used Twitter before and I don't suppose I ever will -- but I don't want to lose el gato and several others I've been reading assiduously here.
Twitter and Substack are two different cats. Substack offers the authors generous latitude to develop thoughts, add some cheek, and demonstrate their prodigious writing skills. Twitter limits users to 140 characters, and too often only contains cheek and snark; hence, it is like comparing a fine 5-course meal to a street hot dog. Better yet, Substack offers space for developed, thoughtful replies, and most often they are polite. Apples 'n oranges.
I was responding to el gato's comment that "this will not take me off substack. this is home now." Before he said that, it hadn't occurred to me that he might leave.
Yes, twitter can be addictive, calling forth our snarkier side. But, Twitter is a comic strip and Substack is a fine essay. Both can be fun/enlightening, but I think many of us discovered this more genteel form of communication, offering some delicious, thoughtful, informative writing on rather dire current events - and very often thoughtful informative replies. Who needs picky publishers when all this talent has surfaced?
I suspect we’re dealing with a Pareto distribution. The more thoughtfully inclined minority -just one introvert’s observation- can easily live without chemical driven (addictive) bursts of palaver, jibes and vitriol. But I don’t know, just a guess.
That crowd can have it. And they will. Some need it. Oof. Different strokes.
Elon Musk is being investigated by federal authorities over his conduct in his $44 billion takeover deal for Twitter Inc (TWTR.N), the social media company said in a court filing released on Thursday.
While the filing said he was under investigations, it did not say what the exact focus of the probes was and which federal authorities are conducting them.
Hopefully after early January they will have a pissed off (R) congressional majority with much new Trumpish blood ready to drag asses into hearings and impeach their cabinet level leadership.
The Twitter employees should be more concerned with the discovery aspect of a Musk purchase. For example, he might say on day one, point me to where the servers are located. He also may ask to be introduced to the army of bots, where do they dine? He may find an underground tunnel which leads directly to the pentagon or CIA headquarters. Controlling the narrative is the least (or should be) of concern Twitter peeps should be worried about. How about the dark corners of Twitter which house the baby market and pornography studios? Wait until Musk discovers the black market which resides on the servers? So much to do, so little time. Let’s Musk this.
I remain optimistic because all the right people HATE what he's doing, and hate him for doing it ... sometimes you just need to trust the energy and not over-think it.
If they're screaming over this, I've decided to enjoy it.
Content Moderation = Censorship
"Content Moderation will suffer."
Enough said?
Fingers crossed. 🤞
The censorship stupidity that has conditioned the morons among us over the last six years or so to support not just corporate but also state censorship in the name of stopping "disinformation," is not a bipartisan phenomenon. It’s a liberal obsession, the "idée fixe" of Today’s Democratic Party. I’d also argue it’s one of the more defining elements of the liberal retreat into illiberal political bunkers, where they remain hunkered down in defensive positions against the First Amendment, churning out philippics demanding more rules and protocols and regulations because damnit, [insert person or thing they don't like] is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy™! I truly hope Musk cleans house. His woke employees at SpaceX tried to pull the same thing as these Twitter employees are and Musk immediately shut them down and fired the ring leaders.
https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/this-is-extremely-dangerous-to-our-376
"Free societies counter misinformation with information, not bans."
I don't think "suffering" is enough. I think anything short of ripped out root and vine and deader than the T-Rex is not nearly enough
Well...DARN!
Yes, he’ll have to adopt something like our system at Parler, if he wants to be principled about it.
I hear Kanye is Parler's Elon... just without all the drama. How's that coming along?
Still in process. But yes, no drama within Parler, because we’ve always believed the answer to “objectionable” speech is always more speech.
I hope it works out!
For my part, I believe that the answer to objectionable media monopolies is often more competition. So I'm rooting for Parler, Gab, and Trump Social or whatever it's called. Along with ActivityPub, Urbit, and a thousand little hopeful monsters.
Sorry about Metcalfe's Law, though.
Frankly, even if this isn’t the beginning of less censorship on Twitter, it’s worth all the liberal tears and tantrums to see Musk take ownership! Absolutely loving it!
The only thing I disagree with is that the people shedding those tears are totalitarians, not liberals. The honorable old name of "liberal" only stretches so far.
The word "liberal" is now a pejorative in most circles I go to. I'm a bona fide leftist, a socialist, with tons of anarchy tossed n for good measure. Peace
True
He has mentioned a few times over the years that he wants to make an 'X' app, which encompasses everything. The way he explained this was that it would be not just a shopping app, or a social app, etc - it would be everything in one app. And that trust would be crucial to this, so he would want to "verify" users.
Now on the one hand it sounds great, right? ...snarky aspbergers billionaire guy could buy the lightning rod and turn it over to the people. And "verify" users, getting rid of the bots and consequent shell games. I do want that.
On the other hand, Musk has stated publicly that he is for making people upload their real world IDs to use Twitter, linking who you are to what you say in a hitherto not seen manner... and that he'd like to use this to turn Twitter into the basis for a commerce gateway. I'm not sure about this.
The free speech stuff is brill. The robots in every household, and the linking of your real world IDs to your social and your commerce profiles sounds like dystopia, honestly. I don't know what to make of Musk.
Exactly. James Corbett recently released a podcast about him. https://www.corbettreport.com/musk/. I'll be happy if Musk does some good, but to me he's still loving him some technocracy.
He's merely a front for a particular faction of spook world. Here's an old report from 2015:
http://mileswmathis.com/musk.pdf
Thanks for that link btw. I read the attached Mathis article then proceeded to read at least 2 more. Sure it is a 7 year old article that just so happens to age like a fine Pinot Noir.
Ah yes, Miles... an endless source of high value speculation. Parallels his writeup on Zuck and the origins of FB. Miles sometimes takes his methodology a little too far, but his general notion of "Intelligence" aka "Phoenician Navy" as _the_ core mechanism of elite (bloodline) control over society and shaping events really connects a lot of dots. His piece on Karl Marx is brilliant.
I recommend people follow Zach Hubbard's work at his site https://gematriaeffect.news/ and on YT (most deleted channels of any YT user, he is up to channel 25 now). The Kabal can't resist stamping their work with their number/letters ritual magick, in mockery of "the profane" (the rest of us). His ebooks are exemplary for truth seekers to be grounded in. Ever wonder why in "Squid Games" they start with 500 contestants but only have 201 left alive after the first "game"? Zach's work explains why it was 201, as in Event 201.
I fear that 11-11-2022 is a marker date that has been dramatically spotlighted in public subliminal (ritual magick) messaging (also called "predictive programming"). The first two weeks of Nov 2022 may prove decisive for "initiating" the next configuration of their "Novus Ordo Seclorem" or "New World Order" as the Kabal describes it, an intentional crisis designed to bring a special "Sun King" ruler into full public awareness and acclaim. Two buildings became zero buildings became one building. Whose birthday is on the 216th day of the year? What is the cube root of 216?
I think the guy's a national treasure or something equivalent. But yeah he's prone to making leaps, so grains of salt are often indicated. And he doesn't cite his sources as carefully as I'd like, let alone archive them appropriately. Also he's got a colossal chip on his shoulder, but I think we can forgive him that.
I like to draw attention to that particular Musk essay from seven years back because it points out some easily verified big holes in Elon's cover story.
See my revised comment... RE Zach Hubbard.
I believe it. Another deep state operative.
Thanks SB
Thanks, I like Corbett, he does great research -- I'll have a listen.
Elon Musk is playing a role. Don't be deceived. Hegalian dialect. He is herding the sceptics right down the path that ends up in the same place as everyone else.
But, as long as he's wearing the right jersey and sending favorable dogwhistles, err I mean virtue signals, we'll cheer him on and queue up to be reinstated into his birdcage.
Because if the last two years (or was it two centuries?) have taught us anything, it's that you CAN fool most of the people most of the time. Might just have fool them in different ways.
On the other hand, the very same as your other, as El. Musk is very much AI oriented, is this [frightening prospect] possibly a part of trust / verification? Much to consider here and it ain’t necessarily all... desirable?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/cZKN2Uvktun5/
Yes to some degree I think it is. Digital, integrated ID is a key goal of all the power players now. Information is the oil of this century — the rich want to be the information barons, and so do governments. In large part I think that's why we see increasingly blurred lines between the two power bases ...that are merging in the name of mutual self interest and total control.
Musk is big into AI, and would gleefully implant chips directly into our brains [Neuralink]. I like a lot of what he says off the cuff, but his technocratic world view + his autism + his astonishing wealth and power ...scares me.
I don't think he's of the same type as the 'Project for the New American Century' or the WEF psycopaths, yet we could virtually end up in the same place under Musk. There is potentially a common thread among them, in that they don't view humanity as something intrinsically of worth. They don't look at individuals and think they are of value, they look at them as 'things'... to be "optimised" / improved / removed / moved around to fit a more utilitarian ideal.
I view this as very anti-human, in the same way that the corporate-sponsored version of the Climate Change movement is deeply anti-human. It isn't about conservation, or making life better for all living things; it views humanity as a disgusting force to be tamed, beaten back, controlled, moderated. Yuk, no thanks to this ideology. Whilst I doubt Musk shares such an obviously eugenicist and considered motivation as the Gates' and the Schwab's of the world, nevertheless I don't cheer him as our new overlord, since he seems to want much of the same in terms of transhumanism and an AI-mediated version of human life.
I, too, don’t think Musk is quite of the same pathology as the more visible (?) enemy -and yet we still haven’t identified the very top by name, though we have some good old family guesses, so that small faction remains behind the curtain.
Although, typical of Aspies, he has unwavering focus and the bucks to pursue his darlings, I wonder if he’s reachable, persuadable about taking his foot off the gas until something something something about highest and best for humanity is discussed, not merely forging ahead in a bubble? What do I know? Not to mention I haven’t been invited to the table.
I do have hope though. Gotta. Until the deal’s done. I pray a lot, staying out of fear, knowing I could make my exit any minute. I don’t know what The Plan is!!!! 😂 but I’m going down fighting. Their fantasy world is not for me!
Musk sold one of the companies that eventually became PayPal, and I've seen somewhere I can't remember that he tried to buy it, which is interesting because of the recent PayPal release saying they were going to fine people $2500 for "misinformation."
They already have so many users with pseudonymous / anonymous accounts, I don't know they could require a confirmed identity, but I could see it as a way to open up the check mark system to everyone who provides ID (Apple's latest iOS enables apps to request identity info from your identity card in your Apple wallet (only 2 US states support it so far). They might also enable users to de-prioritize non confirmed accounts in their feed and comments.
That last sentence is one of several scary aspects of the inevitable digital ID push... eventually only people who are all-in corrupt or too dumb know what's happening will be able to voice their opinions in any meaningfully visible channel.
🤔
I'm cautiously optimistic
Same here. Few if any really understand Musk, and he's very unpredictable. For me it's observe and verify before trusting him, as it is with pretty much everything else these days.
Based on that ABCNews tweet, a few other ABCNews reports:
1. Good street lighting could cripple the chances of rapists to find victims.
2. Healthy eating could cripple halitosis development.
3. Putting food away at night could cripple mice infestations
That said, I am not inspired to Elon Musk faith. In fact, I trust him no further I can shove my snoring deeply-sleeping 250 lb husband back onto his half of the bed. Not an inch.
LOL!
Shaking my head and smiling at the same time. It seems to be my current permeant state
What most people don't know and was not mentioned was this wave of layoffs was inevitable no matter who 'owned' Twitter....their current management was planning this if the sale did not go through as a business reality . . . their woke workers facing layoffs should be both suspicious about and ticked off at is how quickly the rats at the helm grabbed the loot Musk et. al. offered and jumped the listing ship that Twitter is . . . or more accurately the rats jumped onto their corporate jets and fled the scene . . . anyone inside Twitter not holding a decent amount of stock to make a Golden Parachute was left to fend for themselves....
I do hope all the good people who migrated to Substack will remain on Substack, because I never used Twitter before and I don't suppose I ever will -- but I don't want to lose el gato and several others I've been reading assiduously here.
Twitter and Substack are two different cats. Substack offers the authors generous latitude to develop thoughts, add some cheek, and demonstrate their prodigious writing skills. Twitter limits users to 140 characters, and too often only contains cheek and snark; hence, it is like comparing a fine 5-course meal to a street hot dog. Better yet, Substack offers space for developed, thoughtful replies, and most often they are polite. Apples 'n oranges.
I was responding to el gato's comment that "this will not take me off substack. this is home now." Before he said that, it hadn't occurred to me that he might leave.
Yes, twitter can be addictive, calling forth our snarkier side. But, Twitter is a comic strip and Substack is a fine essay. Both can be fun/enlightening, but I think many of us discovered this more genteel form of communication, offering some delicious, thoughtful, informative writing on rather dire current events - and very often thoughtful informative replies. Who needs picky publishers when all this talent has surfaced?
I am 100% with you!
I suspect we’re dealing with a Pareto distribution. The more thoughtfully inclined minority -just one introvert’s observation- can easily live without chemical driven (addictive) bursts of palaver, jibes and vitriol. But I don’t know, just a guess.
That crowd can have it. And they will. Some need it. Oof. Different strokes.
I’ll take an herbal tea with my substack. 😁
Any website which forces you to login or download an app is on my blacklist and will never move out from there.
Twitter is there since a long long time.
Twits: "We demand"
Really? Or what? You'll go on strike? Or quit your jobs?
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/c1/12/51c112eabc0b5d3fdbc7259ebd62f4bf.gif
Bwahahaha. They need a lesson that doing an absolutely useless job has 0 negotiation potential.
I still think they'll pull the rug out from under him.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/elon-musk-under-federal-investigation-tied-twitter-deal-twitter-court-filing-2022-10-13/
Elon Musk is being investigated by federal authorities over his conduct in his $44 billion takeover deal for Twitter Inc (TWTR.N), the social media company said in a court filing released on Thursday.
While the filing said he was under investigations, it did not say what the exact focus of the probes was and which federal authorities are conducting them.
They are going to try. No doubt about that.
It's a shorter list if you ask who *isn't* under some form of Federal investigation. If they're not after you then you are not really trying.
This is the best way of saying it.
Hopefully after early January they will have a pissed off (R) congressional majority with much new Trumpish blood ready to drag asses into hearings and impeach their cabinet level leadership.
There will be a window where things turn to “normal”, like with Gab. But when Twitter becomes X, start worrying.
The Twitter employees write that Elon Musk would hurt "Twitter's ability to serve the public conversation."
Is that like the way a bull services a cow?
Well these are the same people who think you can milk a bull....
But can you milk a trans bull?
The only thing these idiots are milking is a colostomy bag full of bullshit.
You can milk a cow that has decided to identify as a bull.....
Excellent point! 😅
The Twitter employees should be more concerned with the discovery aspect of a Musk purchase. For example, he might say on day one, point me to where the servers are located. He also may ask to be introduced to the army of bots, where do they dine? He may find an underground tunnel which leads directly to the pentagon or CIA headquarters. Controlling the narrative is the least (or should be) of concern Twitter peeps should be worried about. How about the dark corners of Twitter which house the baby market and pornography studios? Wait until Musk discovers the black market which resides on the servers? So much to do, so little time. Let’s Musk this.
I sincerely hope the promise of the layoffs comes to fruition. Most of them will probably learn nothing from it, but maybe a few will.
I remain optimistic because all the right people HATE what he's doing, and hate him for doing it ... sometimes you just need to trust the energy and not over-think it.
If they're screaming over this, I've decided to enjoy it.
Jerome Adams hasn’t stopped his ridiculous postings, I will look forward to epic cat-level trolling of that guy!
If twitter censorship is rolled back by even the tiniest degree under Musk, then his takeover will have been a positive development.
Agree