Won’t argue that. I hold that bullying is at its core an issue of personal responsibility. Bullies need to be larned the lesson. We could do this the easy way, or the hard way.
Schools do not cause bullying, bullies cause bullying. That is a fact of personal responsibility that cannot be transferred to an institution. This article is a perfect example of enabling crying to be an emergency, the subject of EGM post, in the form of glorified mob rule and tyranny.
It's the environment. Disease of any sort loves a toxic environment. Schools - and social media - combined - are toxic environments in which the Bully Disease thrives.
Is there mob rule and tyranny at the Sudbury Valley School or its many imitators? No, there isn't. Instead, there is liberal democracy and the rule of law. Mr. gato has a bit of a point on the virtue of toughness, but there is also virtue in compassion, the baby you're throwing out with the bathwater.
Yes there is. It is very far beyond a reasonable process. Simple, clear, written rules and policies suffice for discipline. The Sudbury “process” unnecessarily enables arbitrary, subjective control based on tyranny of a majority a.k.a. ganging up. Banning from class for a week because person A didn’t like something person B did and got a few people to agree. Extra-judicial and arbitrary. The so-called supreme court style discussions are the giveaway that novices have strayed out of bounds. Recall, democracy is not a good thing as our Founding Fathers understood. I’m so happy my kids didn’t attend a horror show like that.
Meanwhile, in a typically authoritarian school, kids are sent to the principal's office to be punished without due process. And according to you, that's not the horror show. Wow.
I was one who got punished for being in the wrong place, wrong time. I was not with the offending students (age 10?) but was punished with them. However - I lived. My crying was not an emergency.
You lived, JC, but apparently with a kind of Stockholm syndrome that keeps you from acknowledging the political implications of what happened to you. Bite the bullet, man. Admit how outrageous it was.
“ The main cause of bullying at school is the harshly authoritarian nature of school.”
Uh, no.
Bullying’s main caus is bullies: enabled assholes who take their angst out on weaker kids.
Shitty parenting, which gets shittier every year.
Won’t argue that. I hold that bullying is at its core an issue of personal responsibility. Bullies need to be larned the lesson. We could do this the easy way, or the hard way.
I must correct your factual error. Persistent bullying is indeed preventable at the institutional level: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/freedom-to-learn/201006/freedom-from-bullying-how-a-school-can-be-a-moral-community
Schools do not cause bullying, bullies cause bullying. That is a fact of personal responsibility that cannot be transferred to an institution. This article is a perfect example of enabling crying to be an emergency, the subject of EGM post, in the form of glorified mob rule and tyranny.
It's the environment. Disease of any sort loves a toxic environment. Schools - and social media - combined - are toxic environments in which the Bully Disease thrives.
A healthy biome ejects the bully.
True enough, yet we cannot release bullies from personal responsibilty.
Is there mob rule and tyranny at the Sudbury Valley School or its many imitators? No, there isn't. Instead, there is liberal democracy and the rule of law. Mr. gato has a bit of a point on the virtue of toughness, but there is also virtue in compassion, the baby you're throwing out with the bathwater.
Yes there is. It is very far beyond a reasonable process. Simple, clear, written rules and policies suffice for discipline. The Sudbury “process” unnecessarily enables arbitrary, subjective control based on tyranny of a majority a.k.a. ganging up. Banning from class for a week because person A didn’t like something person B did and got a few people to agree. Extra-judicial and arbitrary. The so-called supreme court style discussions are the giveaway that novices have strayed out of bounds. Recall, democracy is not a good thing as our Founding Fathers understood. I’m so happy my kids didn’t attend a horror show like that.
Meanwhile, in a typically authoritarian school, kids are sent to the principal's office to be punished without due process. And according to you, that's not the horror show. Wow.
Break the clear rules, get sent to the Principal’s office. Simple and straightforward. Your crying is not an emergency.
I was one who got punished for being in the wrong place, wrong time. I was not with the offending students (age 10?) but was punished with them. However - I lived. My crying was not an emergency.
You lived, JC, but apparently with a kind of Stockholm syndrome that keeps you from acknowledging the political implications of what happened to you. Bite the bullet, man. Admit how outrageous it was.
So, according to you [la chevalerie vit], all that stuff about being presumed innocent until proven guilty is for crybabies?
Take your strawman elsewhere. Goodbye.