and a friendly wager
Me on my soapbox again, but how can they ban the original Sudafed for being too meth-y… while at the same time overseeing the multibillion dollar adhd drug industry which is all about getting 5 year olds hooked on amphetamines?
The other possibility is, Phenylephrine is useful in treating the next bio weapon they have in the hopper. 😳 With FDA anything is possible.
I really miss pseudoephedrine. I barely used it but when I needed it (and no not ALWAYS when sick) it worked!
As an OTC QC chemist, I was working in a product testing lab when the switch happened. We were all pissed because everybody already knew that oral PEH didn't do shit.
Still working at the same location, but no longer on the bench. No direct knowledge, but this change seems to have come as a surprise to our site management. My sense is that they are just starting to think about what (or if?) formulation changes will need to be made and when. It may rest on whether they pull the GRASE classification, and there's currently no meeting planned for that potential decision at the FDA.
I haven't heard of any potential replacement that might be coming off prescription into the OTC category, but I don't pay close attention to the prescription pharmaceutical market. And it would have to be an OTC compound.
Even switching back to pseudoephedrine would probably cause at least half of formulations to just remove it and drop decongestant claims from products. Ridiculous and ineffective as moving the(pseudo)ephedrine products behind the counter has been, it's still a sales killer that none of the (barely) functional idiots in marketing want to touch.
On the bright side, I'm pretty confident in saying that oral PEH at the amounts in OTC cold medicines is completely harmless. Just also completely useless.
Since the FDA is owned by pharma, and no one was clamoring for this change from the grassroots, it smells. If this were a bid to regain credibility with the public, they wouldn’t pick something so lucrative. It would be some edge case.
Wonder what’s in the offing.
Ok, FDA. Now do remdesivir and covid shots.
Que the approval of an OTC nasal spray that is safe and effective at stopping Covid 10.0, I mean nasal decongestion.
Am I right in thinking that 'the science' is also inching towards 'fessing up to the hundreds-of-millions of unhappy (otherwise known as 'depressed') people in the Western world that SSRIs never worked either (other than as a placebo)? Now you're talking about some REALLY serious Money there.
Yes, if we dont trust them when they say sometihng works, we shouldnt believe them when they say something doesnt work. Dont believe them, ever.
I knew it! I knew it! For years pharmacists have been pushing me to take this when hay fever struck. Made me feel like a druggie looking to score when I asked for the "behind the counter Sudafed". I knew that other stuff didn't work. Redemption!
Phenylephrine was always junk. I knew it from the first time I took it. Switched back to pseudoephedrine right away.
What better way to get crap into people then a nasal spray.,.hmm wonder if the new stuff might cross the blood brain barrier.....hmmmm.
Am I the only consumer who recognized that phenylephrine didn't work? For years I have been handing my driver's license over the counter and requesting pseudoephedrine. Fortunately, my stuffed nose occurred only occasionally, so I wasn't suspected of using Sudafed to cook meth.
Anything to make a dollar; I was a drug rep and this was known from the beginning. Also, multi symptom compounds were discouraged, but came anyway. Just like foods, suggest single ingredient symptom relief is better: congestion (decongestant), allergic symptoms (antihistamine). Wonder why congestion clogs in your head? Usually antihistamine taken when a decongestant is needed. Mucinex (guaifenesin) helps drainage. Keep it simple.
Pseudoephedrine is an effective decongestant and with meth-making, all are punished for the sins of the few. Sound familiar? The suffocating feeling of control is becoming more frequent, and the why now is very curious.
Interesting. I thought maybe it was just me that phenylephrine didn't work for. This is something I should keep an eye on - lots of seasonal and all-effing-year-long allergy sufferers in my family. Thanks for the head's up, Gato! I've been suspicious since I first heard about phenylephrine and the FDA. Never trust anything in the same sentence as "FDA." We know from plague that they lie outrageously AND try to get you to use their garbage du jour.
So here’s where I’ve hit a wall. Don’t want to take anything anymore. Don’t want to give anything to my dog or kitties
Have you ever asked your vet the hard questions about pet meds. ? You could leave the office screaming and all the gatos would be terrified. It is ALL about the $$$.
So when something is wrong we have to be our own Drs and Vets. More evidence of the upside world we are living in.