It isn't politically possible to have serious talks about it. Plkus of course that men being stronger means that where he might feel pain from a punch, she will have fractures. That sort of skews the issue no matter the ratios.
Sadly, I no longer have access to a research report (canadian?) about domestic violence/spousal abuse and sexual…
It isn't politically possible to have serious talks about it. Plkus of course that men being stronger means that where he might feel pain from a punch, she will have fractures. That sort of skews the issue no matter the ratios.
Sadly, I no longer have access to a research report (canadian?) about domestic violence/spousal abuse and sexual orientation so I can't source this but I do remember that the worst most frequent offenders with the most sadistic forms of abuse were lesbians, followed by heteros, and then homosexual men.
Between lesbians, the violence was studied, thought out and drawn out and very very sadistic, bordering on outright mutilations. Between homosexuals, it rarely went beyond throwing things and slaps.
I remeemeber the reasearcher pointing out that the study hadn't gone into /why/ and that she had been denied funding to follow it up to look into that.
Take this with lots of salt, it's from memory and it's been 10-15 years or more since I read it.
I was surprised when I learned this. I'd traditionally experienced lesbians as women who had been harmed by men, and stayed with their own kind. Had that "utopian women's community" image in my mind. Then, in the 90's, living next door to a lesbian couple, we had to take one to shelter.... eye opening.
I started to gain deeper understanding in the 1990s when my own studies in "ideas of history/history of ideas" coincided with my wife's work in women's studies.
Men may have sometimes brutish and boorish group dynamics, but that was a Spring wind compared to what I experienced (to say nothing of what my wife endured!) re: academic feminism, women's studies and so on.
The understanding I have is that men are stronger, more reckless, and prone to rages that rise and fall over a ten-minute cycle. Women are weaker, more cautious, and slower to anger, but once they are angered it never goes away.
Hence, the warnings about "the female of the species" and "Hell hath no fury..."
"The [US] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey reports on the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner, focusing for the first time on victimization by sexual orientation. It finds a victimization prevalence of 43.8 percent for lesbians, making it the second most affected group after bisexual women (61.1 percent), ahead of bisexual men (37.3 percent), heterosexual women (35 percent), heterosexual men (29 percent) and homosexual men (26 percent)."
Wow! Thank you - being "accused" of having an excellent memory is a rare thing for me these days. Things flow together, the center becoming a congeled mass, to travestise the poet.
To quote one of my professors in pol-sci and sociology (the poor man had tenure in Lund, Sweden and in Hong Kong, he airhopped so he spent one week either place -looked like a junkie due to jetlag):
"If we don't (want) to find out how things are, we are never able to figure out if, what and how anything is to be done!"
Another one of his stuck too, very pertinent to today's academia:
"I'm old enough to speak my mind, I'm five years overdue for retirement anyway!"
It isn't politically possible to have serious talks about it. Plkus of course that men being stronger means that where he might feel pain from a punch, she will have fractures. That sort of skews the issue no matter the ratios.
Sadly, I no longer have access to a research report (canadian?) about domestic violence/spousal abuse and sexual orientation so I can't source this but I do remember that the worst most frequent offenders with the most sadistic forms of abuse were lesbians, followed by heteros, and then homosexual men.
Between lesbians, the violence was studied, thought out and drawn out and very very sadistic, bordering on outright mutilations. Between homosexuals, it rarely went beyond throwing things and slaps.
I remeemeber the reasearcher pointing out that the study hadn't gone into /why/ and that she had been denied funding to follow it up to look into that.
Take this with lots of salt, it's from memory and it's been 10-15 years or more since I read it.
I was surprised when I learned this. I'd traditionally experienced lesbians as women who had been harmed by men, and stayed with their own kind. Had that "utopian women's community" image in my mind. Then, in the 90's, living next door to a lesbian couple, we had to take one to shelter.... eye opening.
Same here, sort of.
I started to gain deeper understanding in the 1990s when my own studies in "ideas of history/history of ideas" coincided with my wife's work in women's studies.
Men may have sometimes brutish and boorish group dynamics, but that was a Spring wind compared to what I experienced (to say nothing of what my wife endured!) re: academic feminism, women's studies and so on.
The understanding I have is that men are stronger, more reckless, and prone to rages that rise and fall over a ten-minute cycle. Women are weaker, more cautious, and slower to anger, but once they are angered it never goes away.
Hence, the warnings about "the female of the species" and "Hell hath no fury..."
https://web.archive.org/web/20190607102158/https://web.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
Thank you Big!
Anyone interested in the topic better save the linked list of studies, just saying.
Stunning. And I thought I was informed on this subject.
You have an excellent memory, Rikard.
"The [US] Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s 2010 National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey reports on the lifetime prevalence of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner, focusing for the first time on victimization by sexual orientation. It finds a victimization prevalence of 43.8 percent for lesbians, making it the second most affected group after bisexual women (61.1 percent), ahead of bisexual men (37.3 percent), heterosexual women (35 percent), heterosexual men (29 percent) and homosexual men (26 percent)."
https://wentworthreport.com/2017/01/08/rate-of-domestic-violence-highest-in-lesbian-relationships/
Wow! Thank you - being "accused" of having an excellent memory is a rare thing for me these days. Things flow together, the center becoming a congeled mass, to travestise the poet.
To quote one of my professors in pol-sci and sociology (the poor man had tenure in Lund, Sweden and in Hong Kong, he airhopped so he spent one week either place -looked like a junkie due to jetlag):
"If we don't (want) to find out how things are, we are never able to figure out if, what and how anything is to be done!"
Another one of his stuck too, very pertinent to today's academia:
"I'm old enough to speak my mind, I'm five years overdue for retirement anyway!"
Your professor had wise words.