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It felt so good when that MIT study came out. I looked at that chart and thought, "I'm following over half of those accounts, I have to be pretty well informed".

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i really enjoyed writing the jane goodall explores MIT piece.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/science-is-a-process-not-an-institution

“most fundamentally, the groups we studied believe that science is a process, not an institution.”

leveling this as though it were an accusation was deeply telling. could there be any clearer sign of woo-woo than the claim that science is an institution and that the commoners should keep their grubby hands off of it and leave such endeavor to their betters?

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I call that network chart, " A thousand points of light." I'm a tiny white dwarf on there somewhere. Congratulations on your supernova status.

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I showed the MIT paper to people I still chatted with at the time to explain "here's the people who write the stuff I keep sending to you" - none of them fanatics, really, just aggravatingly "go along to get along" (to the point that I was eventually bad for their social status), and even they said, "I don't understand the argument of this paper. Aren't the things they're saying how science is supposed to work?"

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Next thing some clown from the patent office without formal accreditation is going to think he can just write papers about the propagation of light and the nature of space-time. Jerk.

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"Sorry, I listen to actual physicists."

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While the US Patent Office serves useful purposes, they do get some ribbing as some very questionable things have been patented. One is for a device that allows for speeds (data transmission maybe?) faster than the speed of light. And yes, I verified that. You can too. Google patent "faster than light" and read at your leisure.

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

Another one of those crazy phlogiston deniers. These anti-aether nutcases are spreading dangerous misinformation and must be stopped.

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their response is so 16th century papal

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Me-Fuckin-eow!!😹

Bad Cat, Bad Cat, what you gonna do, what you gonna do, when he comes for you??

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i'll slip through streets

while everyone sleeps

getting bigger and sleeker

and wider and brighter

i'll bite and scratch and scream all night

let's go and throw

all the songs we know

into the sea

you and me

all these years and no one heard

i'll show you in spring

it's a treacherous thing

"you missed me", hiss the badcats...

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If you can't periodically go back and "re-run" an old experiment that "proved" something, then you're not doing science.

In fact, scientists should - just for the fun of it - pick an old experiment each year and re-run it. Show the kiddies how the current scientific consensus was built. And heck, sometimes you may find that you can't reproduce an experiment. At which point, you should do some serious thinking...

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You would be shocked (or perhaps not) how pervasive the "reproducibility crisis" really is. It is present in basically every single discipline for which peer-reviewed research publication exists, and I find it weird that more people aren't freaking out about its implications, one of which is that most of the conclusions drawn from the last 75 or so years' research is wrong or unprovable.

To real scientists, the reproducibility crisis should be the equivalent of finding a dated "first draft" of the Bible in ancient Hebrew, complete with editor's markup, where Moses built a rocket ship instead of an ark and Jesus was originally written as a fat smuggler with child support payments: an existential disaster.

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i used to hear fellow grad students how they were trying to amplify a gene segment or isolate an entire gene, followed someone else's methods, and just couldn't get it to work -- not even in the same cell line or in the same species. that made it all sound super sketchy right there.

then, when DNA sequence analysis was becoming a typical thing to do in evolutionary biology, i read so many papers in which the researchers would "align multiple sequences by eye". it actually took a hardy group at Merck to create a usable script that would actually automate the alignment process and comparison so the "by eye" nonsense could be squashed. the joy of being a peer reviewer and thrashing that part of the methods, "you should be using script X", was unparalleled. lol.

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Now imagine how many papers got published before sequence alignment technology, and are still out there, still cited, and have never been subsequently tested for repeatability.

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

now let's ponder all those things under microscope lenses.

Harold Hillman, an electron microscopist and neurobiologist, was convinced that a lot of what was being published as "X" was actually a consequence of staining and tissue prep techniques. He had a list of questions for the scientific community, none of which anyone was prepared to answer. He eventually became person non grata because he dared to challenge the protocols.

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I often argue that a more serious crisis is where dogma has banned certain scientific thought. We discuss some of those issues here (e.g. the true facts surrounding the Covid-19 "pandemic"). However, if one looks, one can find curious cases of politics pushing reality off the stage in fields as diverse as education, sociology, criminology, anthropology, medicine and no doubt many more that I'm unaware of.

What I speak of above are the problem of willful ignorance, or even enforced conformance to an established acceptable belief, in the hard(er) sciences. The problem is far worse in the softer areas of human thought, e.g. philosophy, religion and such. No matter one's sincerely held convictions, I assert that almost everyone believes as true certain beliefs that are barking-at-the-moon, batshit crazy, if subjected to rigorous analysis.

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Agreed. Not every experiment is easy to reproduce. But in education, ideally students are shown some of the basics. For example, I've done some basic chemistry. In biology classes I've peered through a microscope and seen actual pond creatures swimming around, or [dog] blood cells affected by varying saline levels, and similar phenomena. In an astronomy class we had the opportunity to look through telescopes at heavenly bodies, although I preferred the nubile female variety on campus. Do they even do this for more recent generations (I'm a latter Boomer).

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Interesting read - how the speed of light was first measured / approximated in 1676:

https://gizmodo.com/how-the-speed-of-light-was-first-measured-1138348467

Related, the Michaelson-Morley experiment: They disproved their own hypothesis, though, that the luminiferous ether actually existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson%E2%80%93Morley_experiment

So when are scientists today gonna run an experiment and say, "Whoops, my bad, actually I completely and totally disproved my own hypothesis. It's actually not a good idea to inject mRNA into your veins!"

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There is a banned Ted Talk in which Rupert Sheldrake describes a hobby he had looking up reports about the speed of light that reported different findings on the measured speed. It is very funny and raises a lot of uncomfortable questions about dogma and catma in Science.

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It's not really banned, you can watch it at this page. I gave this one to my students to watch.

https://blog.ted.com/the-debate-about-rupert-sheldrakes-talk/

There's copies on youtube, too.

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Yes, sorry. I did not notice that my internet had cut out for a short period unexpectly when I tried to find it again and re-read.

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I remember something similar about masks. The anti-mask group actually knew the data and was perfectly happy to recite it back. This was a big problem for those who wanted us to just blindly believe what they were saying.

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It inspired me to go out and get the ones I had been missing at the time.

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its a pity berenson went off at certain folks on our own team like malone, i had to stop listening to his bs then

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Yeah, I don't pay attention to Berenson anymore. He's gotten...weird. Seemed to morph straight into a persecution complex with the twitter battle, than a God complex after winning, while still somehow keeping the persecution complex. He did do some yeoman's work on covid though, and I will always appreciate him for that.

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Look, in spite of whatever it is about Berenson that compels him to say and do awkward and weird stuff sometimes, I'm still paying attention to him because he has exposed some pretty important stuff - and he'll probably keep doing it for a while. I mean look at what came to light from his Twitter fight about how the White House was telling Twitter who to censor - that's illegal, and it's documented and public now. So yeah, I'm still following his work . . .

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I also follow Alex. But he is whinny. I love gato: without gato malo I would have sunk into depression. I need gato’s strength and encouragement. Alex gives good info but he’s whinny and a drama queen. Adding more drama to this whole situation is counterproductive.

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Absolutely agree. I will always appreciate Alex because that’s how I found el gato malo.

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Yeah. I recently stopped following him myself for that very reason. He can still come up with good stuff, but most of the time he just whines. I follow VivaBarnesLaw on Locals and they post links to good Berenson articles and I figure that's all I need from him. I found boriquagato through VivaBarnesLaw too.

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Yes to ^^^^all of this!

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Right. If I hadn't seen Berenson in mid to late summer of 2021 showing that Israel was the canary in the coal mine, I probably wouldn't have discovered the Bad Cat, Eugypyius, and many others. The comments sections of most of these substacks have been my fortress of solitude from the Branch Covidians. He has good takes on the 'rona and vaccines, but not much else. I just don't understand his obsession with Twitter. It's a leftist Clown Show.

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Berenson will forever have my gratitude. He took the big risk early on re Covid.

He's right about the harm of commercialized cannabis too.

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I get your point of view, Alex just got too tiresome for me to care about on a regular basis. Like you mention, he still puts out worthwhile things but they usually end up showing up in places I do still have my eye on, so I usually still catch his important stuff without having to sift through all his posts directly all thanks to people like yourself that still follow Berenson closely. It works for me.

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Right. I mean, we're not mind-numbed robots who take marching orders. We're smart enough to know what not to listen to.

Alex starts talking about Trump and the 2020 election, I tune him out. He has no credibility on that subject. Ditto Alex and IVM. Ditto anyone supporting LIV golf.

For example, when EGM starts talking about dogs... ;-)

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

Berenson seems to have the same problem Trump has, namely, Twitter lives rent free in his head 24/7. He needs to get over it. Twitter probably has the lowest signal to noise ratio of any social media anywhere. Getting banned should be a badge of honor.

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i do not follow berenson! too high on his narrowness.

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His woo woo factor has grown exponentially in recent days.

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I still value his covid research and articles and he was the first skeptic talking about the ineffectiveness of lockdowns and masks and lead me to other Substacks like this one.

However, despite how skeptical he is about everything regarding covid, he still buys the media lines about other issues and frequently posts some very weird takes. His random attacks on Dr. Malone are strange and unnecessary. We should all be on the same side.

It seems to eat at him that he's no longer part of the elite club at the New York Times. He's resentful that his paying audience has members that are conservatives and Trump supporters. He occasionally displays disdain and attacks his own paying customers out of nowhere.

I guess you can take the author out of the NYT, but you can't take the NYT out of the author.

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i think you hit the nail on the head there!

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Agreed. I was a paying subscriber several months, but quit after the Malone attack. I've checked in a few times since, but do not see much material that I would read, even for free. This is rather odd for a man who specialized in medical reporting for one of the premier newspapers of the world for several years.

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I still read Berenson's substack occasionally, but he'll never get a dollar from me due to his unsavory actions.

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Me too!! And they even wrote “ they use data to persuade” - or equivalent. I laughed my ass off.

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This what happens when "they" keep telling us useless eaters to follow the science! We all followed the science alright, but not the science they wanted. Political science is not actual science😎

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Will someone please link to this MIT study? I'm unable to find it online.

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

el gato has a link in his comment above to his own post on it, and within that theres is a link, its a pdf and im not clever enough to post that here

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Hmmm I didn't see that link or wouldn't have bothered everyone. 🙄

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how the mighty have fallen

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I want to see a net of associations like the one above, but for magnates, bankers, Clinton-clan members and hangarounds, Greenspanners and the like.

With the name "Epstein" in the centre.

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And just like that, Rikard was raided by the FBI for having nuclear launch codes. While awaiting trial in DC, Rikard was audited by 87,000 armed IRS agents.

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Ehm, not sure the FBI has jurisdiction in Sweden? ;) On the other hand, our own governement could easily Trump up charges for a raid - thy've done it often enough in the past.

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He he he...tell that to Assange.

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Oh there's been plenty more than him.

The woman who accused him has been rewarded with a very high position in the Socialist Democratic party's wing dedicated to controlling the churches.

Pointing out all the tens of thousands of cases of reported rape where such flimsy accusations and lack of any evidence means the prosecutor's office marks the file "not enough to warrant investigation" is not appreciated by people working in law.

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Just be careful not to suicide yourself

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Those Biden IRS agents are the brown shirts, the SS, the enforcers: they are not auditors.

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"One Nation Under Blackmail " is Whitney Webbs new book, out next month. More than enough connections to make you ill.

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I pre-ordered as soon as I learned of its release.

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You are really onto something here. Ever since I heard that the magistrate in the Mar a Lago episode was connected, I cannot stop thinking about Epstein and how he ties into so much in the US. Since we no longer have much journalism ( no offense intended to substackers), I wonder if we will ever discover all the ties.

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warning: the info below is crazy.

So, there's a guy by the name of Clif High. He's an old MS programmer who does something called predictive linguistics. He has data from decades ago that seems to be manifesting now. At this very moment, we are in the "secrets revealed" data set, and those secrets are going to be really awful and unpleasant for us to face.

Anecdotally, his Telegram channel had a link to a Fox interview with one of Trump's lawyers. She seemed to say that Paul Pelsoi had a "concealed undisclosed passenger" in his car when he was arrested, as well as info about Epstein.

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Thanks. I often wear my tin hat anyway.

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If anyone's got this map of connections, it's Whitney Webb.

Her book out soon.

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/one-nation-under-blackmail-whitney-alyse-webb/1136403909

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They are available, albeit not in one place, at least that I’m aware but cobbled together from many different interested parties.

Example from this morning;

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore.

And of course, it’s to “protect democracy” and keep our elections safe and secure.

Yes, Obama has his claws deeply entrenched.

Zuckerberg's CTCL funded software that commingled US Election Information on the same servers that the CCP runs their elections on👀

Watch the full Interview here:

https://rumble.com/v1g34zd-devolution-power-hour-gregg-phillips-interview.html

I think I got the above from; https://t.me/ungathegreat

Also, https://t.me/The_Library_II

The Left Has a $500 Million Dark Money' ATM Machine' Called Arabella https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/04/the-left-has-a-500-million-dark-money-atm-machine-called-arabella/

A Who's Who Of Left-Wing Hacks: Behind The Aspen Institute's Upcoming Report On Silencing Dissent https://thefederalist.com/2021/06/17/a-whos-who-of-left-wing-hacks-behind-the-aspen-institutes-upcoming-report-on-silencing-dissent/

"For the past six months, this liberal Dream Team has been hard at work on their big report to help the federal government work with corporations to squash news they call "disinformation."

Obama, My Project Continues After I Leave Office: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/05/04/cbs-news-poll-race-relations/

Like I said, so many divers sites, Gato here, all working on different areas of a complex mosaic.

The “wisdom of the crowd” as it were also makes it difficult to stamp us all out.

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Corruption at scale. No more banging shoes on the table, they moved into academia and from there the nation. But just as the public became aware of pandemic lies they are having more questions about where we are headed.

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That would be a good one.

But wouldn't everyone with a good amount of money be on it?

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I remember the smugness of some of the friends I lost and others who pushed the Covid mandates and regulations, when I would present data that spoke against the narrative they would ask where I received the data from.I knew what they had at the ready. They had chambered the sites that cited bias. So, if I said "Rational Ground" or ZeroHedge" they would use the "bias" or fact checking site to automatically dismiss it. The irony is these sites were using the same data the CDC was citing as well as many of the sites that were "unbiased" or "biased towards their narrative."

When they would give me data, which was seldom, I didn't automatically dismiss it because I know that bias sites can be biased about their bias. And fact checking sites, by their very name are suspicious. Instead of relying on other people to determine bogosity, I would question it myself. This isn't to say that many times I found myself out of my element or in up to my neck in numbers that I didn't necessarily understand, but I was willing to do some work regarding it rather than "believing the experts" out of hand.

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They’re only pretending to be interested in “debating” you. They’re really only interested in shutting you up.

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Actually , they are not interested at all . Interest implies curiosity and they have none!

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Bingo. It also requires empathy for someone else.

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I think they also want to see us devolve into tactics that are not logical. They would often bait me into ad hominem attacks or to buy into whatever logical fallacy they were trying to push. They would call me selfish for going against masking ordinances, or decided that the vaccine may not be a good idea. Whereas I would ask them what was more selfish? Not masking up for .14% of the population who could die with/from a disease, or demanding the other 99.86% people to mask up for a disease that will not affect them adversely.

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Yeah, that was such a weird strategy, to me. It reminded me of the people who say I as a white-looking person need to feel guilty for things some of my ancestors MAY have done. It's like, no, I feel guilty when I do something wrong, not when others do. These people have no boundaries!

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The problem with the line of thinking that because of ancestry we are all responsible of crimes by our ancestors is that there is no one who is free of guilt. Shady pasts are everywhere. This isn't to excuse that behavior, but how do people expect others to move on if they keep trying to live in and blame the past?

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My answer to that question about selfishness, is that "I am not selfish enough to demand that everybody else wear a mask for my sake."

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Exactly, I would often use the example of someone with peanut allergies demanding a restaurant be shut down that served peanuts in their cuisine.

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Any time someone would cite a fact-checker (sic), I'd ask them, "Who fact-checked the fact-checker? What makes the fact-checker pure, omniscient, and free of bias? Who funds the fact-checkers?"

They wouldn't concede the point, but you know they understood it. Their not conceding the point, however, is what makes them hostile to freedom and liberty and enlightenment, and my adversary if not outright enemy.

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As if fact checkers are God with the ultimate Truth. They are the opposite and bury truth for the lie du jour.

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But why are there SO many idiots and morons who can't see that fact? That "fact-checkers" are no more pure or omniscient than anyone else?

It's got to be part of a mental disorder, to take completely on FAITH - and that's what it is - that some completely unknown stranger is honest, truthful, free of bias, and pure of heart.

Anyone whose entire argument is parroting a fact-checker has SFB, IMO.

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People who have no belief in God put all their belief in man. That's why they can't see that fact. They don't even know what omniscience means. A truly secular society eventually collapses.

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The fact checkers were funny as well. A lot of the time the "fact being checked" were not germane to the truth being stated. So for instance if someone stated "Mask efficacy is questionable." their response would bein regards to a comment or implied comment made on the assertion.

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Your story is similar to mine. I had to put in some work to disprove those who would lazily flick a “fact checker” article at me. But they aren’t very good are they? Often fact checking constitutes little more than putting a ‘not’ in front of the assertion.

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There was this one person who sent me a dump on a number of studies regarding mask effectiveness (a large ratio of which often cited the other studies to support their thesis) I actually was reading scientific papers on the efficacy and many of the studies were more observational and theoretical than they were actual. Of course they never mentioned the Danish study in the briefs as well as explain away any of the real time charts and data regarding mask mandates and requisite changed in case/hospitalization/death numbers.

The bottom line was that most of these studies spoke to how masks could be effective. rather than if they actually were.

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God forbid that the "fact checker" followers should have to think.

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That was part of the reason for the fact checking. "We will do the thinking for you." should have been their motto. It is so much more difficult to take something and think about it on your own or at the very least try and understand it.

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Yes: "...difficult to take something and think about it" applies to the lazy-brained followers of the fact checkers.

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As some wag (George Carlin probably) observed, "Remember, half the people you meet are of below average intelligence."

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The official data always counteracted the official narrative. I'm extremely upset that only a few people bothered to actually look at the data instead of listening to the news.

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When the actual data for the Pfizer trial came out - I looked at it and my old engineering/stats math brain kicked in and I was like "who the hell gave the green light to this ?" The approval was clearly based on one variable and ignored ALL of the others. And they even twisted that variable from absolute efficacy to relative efficacy. No wonder they tried to bury it for 75 years.

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Reminds me of the reaction that Dr John Mitchell (?) had when he went over the numbers.

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John Campbell, you mean?

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Yes, that's him! Thank you!

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I've been researching natural health, nutrition, vitamins, and herbs for almost ten years now due to medical malpractice that nearly ruined me. I can tell you they've been lying and covering up long before covid, from cholesterol to saturated fat causing heart disease, chemical imbalances causing depression to burying the efficacy of high dose b vitamins for Alzheimer's. I had already come to the conclusion everything was lies from top to bottom. So I swallowed not a single covid lie and refused masks, distancing, and vaccines. I assume everything they say is a lie and everyone they call a liar is telling the truth.

If you are here reading the bad cat, you have a functioning BS meter. Please use it to look at the other medical lies we've been told. Your health will thank you for it.

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Absolutely. This madness has been fully ensconced in the cancer treatment industry for a century. Now they have made the jump from killing sick people to killing healthy people.

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That’s my story too, Don. I am female, though, and had to fend off the HRT onslaughts. Now, of course, that has been debunked. I don’t recall any of the docs(pushers) ever mentioning the ultimate outcome of our debates.

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Glad you made it through! I did do a little research into things when my wife entered menopause. We found a number of traditional herbal remedies that helped her tremendously. I'm 58, she's 56, and neither of us are on a single medication.

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Feel free to drop a link or two. I am all ears, or eyes. The massive WTF moment I had after witnessing the relentless shot pushing—against all the available data—made me drop anything chemical pushed by big pharm. including anti-depressants.

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Try Greenmedinfo.com, earthclinic.com, Dr.MalcolmKendrick.org, and doctoryourself.com for a quick start. You'll find others once you start looking.

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What are you interested in?

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

I'm "not your guinea pig" 😀 , but a link to research about high-dose B vitamins for Alzheimer's would be great.

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Also check out studies on viagra usage and Alzheimer's. Men who use Viagra have over a 60% less incidence of Alzheimer's.

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Lol. I'm no guinea pig keeper either. Try Dr.MalcolmKendrick.org and put vitamins in the search bar. Only one article will pop up. He lists several reputable studies, some as recent as 2013. Pushing vitamins is not his thing and neither is Alzheimer's. He is primarily interested in heart disease and has written a few books on that and the cholesterol myth. I think you will enjoy him. He is a skeptic with an excellent sense of humor.

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I think the number is 90% of Americans over 60 are "on" at least one prescription med. I like the idea of "high dose b vitamins" and dementia - but I worry about "high" - as I have within the past month encountered I think amateur (in the good El Gato sense; not big med) researchers who have warned that high dose A and high dose D3 can, in certain configurations, be very damaging. Problem is, I've always thought I had a life to live and just can't buckle down and do the research myself. It's a cost, I suppose, of the grand gift of a lifetime of near perfect health.

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Wow, that number is high. No wonder we are ruled by hypochondriacs. Way back when 25 years ago when I last visited a doctor for a sinus infection the nurse was SHOCKED that I was on no medications - I was only in my early 30's. I'm still drug-free, thank God.

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B vitamins are water soluble and excess is flushed out, unlike a & d, which are fat soluble and can accumulate. Niacin (b3)can raise certain liver markers, although this hasn't been shown to be harmful. B6 in very high doses taken by itself can cause nerve damage in some. B vitamins should always be taken in a complex.

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Go to Dr.MalcolmKendrick.org and put vitamins in the search bar. He rarely mentions vitamins and only one article will pop up. He mentions several studies and how they were buried. I think you will like him if you peruse his site. He's not selling or advocating anything except his book on what causes heart disease. He's certainly not pushing vitamins and the article is about how research gets buried.

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Dr Kendrick's research is tremendously (and painfully) on point when it comes to Covid and vaxx-driven heart problems. His thesis is about sharp objects in the bloodstream. When these sharp objects (lead, smoke, etc,) slam into artery walls, they can cause damage. If it doesn't happen very often, the body can heal itself, much like a scab on skin. When it happens faster than the body can heal itself, the "scab" gets incorporated into the blood vessel wall, so that a new "scab" can form on top of it. These piled-on "scabs" constrict the blood vessel.

And guess what is a world-class sharp object to bounce around and wreak havoc in arteries? A spike protein, with or without a virus inside.

Not a good kitty toy.

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Unfortunately, he himself was forced to take the vaxx to continue treating patients. He recently got covid and also was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Hard to think it's not connected to the vaxx.

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Likewise for us but in our early seventies.

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Haha, you got us beat. Hopefully we can follow your lead.

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A big ditto here also Don.

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Would love to hear about herbal menopause remedies. Would love to get off HRT.

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Zinc and b vitamins did it for me although I was never on HRT and had only a night or two of sweats. Zero other issues. Diet plays a role. And fat cells make it worse. Did you know that there are no words in the Japanese language for “hot flashes?” They don’t get them. I knew a Japanese lady who verified that.

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I wonder if it could be related to all the iodine they consume? They average 12 mg. a day, while the RDA for iodine is only 150 MICROGRAMS.

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Aug 17, 2022·edited Aug 17, 2022

Interesting. I would think it wouldn’t hurt, for sure. I took some medical herbalism classes some years ago. The Phd/herbologist who taught it said most of us are deficient in iodine (as well as zinc). You can test if you’re deficient by getting a bottle of iodine, putting a quarter size patch on your arm. If it’s gone in 24 hours, she said you’re deficient.

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I would love to be pointed to HRT info. Been on it for 5 years due to debilitating menopausal fatigue and family history of crippling spinal osteoporotic degeneration. Would love to get off, but I'm afraid my bones will shatter. I never bought into the Covid bs, but they hooked me on HRT before my bs meter was fully installed.

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Bone density can be improved by strength building exercises - lifting weights. Just an option if you're tired of the drugs.

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Vitamin k2 is very important for directing calcium where it needs to go to help bones. It works best in conjunction with vitamin d and strontium. Google vitamin d, k2, and strontium for bones and you'll find links to mainstream places like web md with links to studies. Bear in mind these sites will always downplay efficacy of natural treatments. Also HMB can aid muscle growth in the elderly.

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I'm no doctor and my wife was never on HRT, so I've done no research on coming off them. But herbs that helped her were black cohosh, pueraria mirifica, ginger root, red clover, and moringa. Each is for different things so research. Greenmedinfo.com is a good site with thousands of links to studies and beneficial interventions. Earthclinic.com has lots of user anecdotes about helpful things as well.

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Thank you so much! That's a great start. Cheers!

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Ladies Mantle is another good one. I didn't do anything for menopause, but I have very solid bones so that wasn't an issue.

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Good luck and good health! Maybe you could report back if you find something helpful?

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Root Cause Protocol has been very helpful in our house.

Also eating Natto. Controlled high blood pressure. Back to normal in 4 months. No drugs.

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I will keep this thread to do so. I've finally found a naturopath who is savvy re Covid who is willing to work with me on this. Thanks again!

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Agree 100%. My (pardon the pun) healthy skepticism towards medicine gave me the sense to refuse a Paxlovid prescription recently. I'm not even at high risk. As with many ageing people, I have been on statins and a blood pressure med for a while. On my "to do" list is to research these. All the same, let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. Medical science, and even Pharma, have and still do provide many beneficial and even life saving treatments. We just need to be careful customers.

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You know I hear good things like this a lot. Just don’t really see or experience it. A friend with bladder cancer went to Johns Hopkins, told a great candidate for immuno therapy, the a great candidate for new chemo, then a great candidate for, well, you get it. Finally when about to begin a clinical trial for whatever, she died, not two years post diagnosis. She wanted to live and so attempted every one of these great interventions, suffered and died.

Another friend kept being told of “all the advances” in treatment of breast cancer finally concluded that they still offer only cut, burn and poison.

One thing we never get to know is how we would fare without all these meds and other interventions. And, you are correct that we need to be careful but sometimes we are frightened and we cannot be.

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Statins are poison. They have no benefits except a very small one to men over 65 who've had a previous heart attack. The entire "cholesterol causes heart disease" is a myth and I personally wouldn't touch statins with a ten foot pole. Please check out the link I posted to Dr. Malcolm Kendrick and read his book "The Clot Thickens".

Blood pressure can easily be controlled naturally. Olive leaf extract and celery seed extract are excellent, among many others. I personally brought my bp down from 185/95 to a constant 117/78 using celery seed and olive leaf. I now just work celery and olive oil into my diet and my bp has remained steady for over 5 years.

I agree medical science and pharma have some benefits, and if I were in a car accident, I'd want them to sew me back up. But they have sold their soul to the dark side and I don't see how it can be separated right now. For now, I am my own and my family's doctor until I see a better way.

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It's the inverse of the pronouns in the profile effect. I essentially ignore the commentary of anyone that puts their pronouns (even if it's cis-). They're always NPC Muppets...

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The truth won’t save you. They’re trying to impose a Soviet-style State, where lies are part of the package and all definitions are inverted. They *don’t care* that you see it as falsehood and disingenuity. In fact, it’s sort of the point - to force you to repeat the lie. Today, most people who won’t play along get kicked off social media. Tomorrow, prison.

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In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to. – Theodore Dalrymple

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A most excellent quote. It may seem counter-intuitive, but if you "go along to get along," that won't save you either. Plenty of loyal Communists were sent to the firing squad, the Gulag or some lesser unhappy fate, merely when they were no longer useful or more likely, stood in the way of some other guy's advancement.

You might as well speak out, rebel and generally throw sand in the gears while you're able. As another wise person noted, you cannot comply your way out of tyranny.

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That's exactly correct. If you want to stay in the group, you must repeat the new lies -- even when you know they are lies. The cult hates ex-members far more than never-members.

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All religions treat apostates as the lowest of the low.

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"Today, most people who won’t play along get kicked off social media. Tomorrow, prison."

Ding, ding, ding!!, we have a winner. Choose your prize, any prize!!

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When, I mean if, I go to prison, it won't be for *that*.

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

The one at a former place I worked looked like a body building bulldog. But he got out of heavy work claiming estrogen made him weak (apparently weaker than the actual females in the place who kept up their end...) and he spent prolonged amounts of time in the womens restroom- we had a lot of teen girl volunteers and I suspect he was spying on them. But you can't do anything about it or else you're a TERF shitlord.

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Once they force you to repeat the lie, you’ve done violence to your own internal sense of honor, even self. You’ve gone over, and joined your enemy. You’re a participant. The next time will be easier.

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And if you fail to repeat the next lie, guess what happens? You get thrown out of the group.

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I am just a dorky puppy in a bad cat world, but even I pick my ears up, cock my head, and howl when I see “Pfizer funds FB fact-checkers”.

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The censors are helpful in a similar way as 100% contrary indicators. Follow the force of the vacuum left by the silenced voices and find the real story.

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It’s called the White Bear Effect (a.k.a. ironic process theory) and works brilliantly to our advantage:

https://www.apa.org/monitor/2011/10/unwanted-thoughts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironic_process_theory

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"Don't think of pink elephants" is the version I was told.

And being told that, the first thing you think of is a pink elephant of course.

It's the same logic that makes it impossible to make "anti"-anything messages. There are no such things as anti-war movies, only war movies focusing of different aspects of war.

Now consider the term anti-racism...

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Exactly—George Lakoff played on it in “Don’t Think of an Elephant.”

Think of Nixon’s “I am not a crook.”

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I'm thinking of fast-talking Tony who, in response to my fsbo ad, led his voice message with "I'm not a realtor or broker or anything. I'm just looking for a house in your town."

And accidentally left the phone # for North Star Real Estate instead of the cell he called from 😂😂🤣

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Me, I'm thinking of 'Ghostbusters'. The real one from the 1980s.

"Clear you minds. Don't think of anything."

...

"What did you DO, Ray?"

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

Yeah. Another way to think of it is - if you want to remove all the red shirts from your wardrobe, what do you have to do?

Go through your wardrobe and pick out all your red shirts. I've always heard it referred to as ironic monitoring. Because you're always on the look out for the things you want to remove, so in order to do that, you end up becoming hyper aware of it.

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Yep! Oliver Burkeman explores this concept at length in “The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can't Stand Positive Thinking.”

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Madame, I am now proposing the "Cement Effect." This happens when you have no naturally occurring thoughts, and are suddenly exposed to mental viruses from YOUR team. These mental viruses are firmly ensconced in the gray matter, and no amount of pink elephants, white bears, or truth exposure can dislodge them. I will now go on a 25 year research endeavor to have this added to wikipedia. 👍🐶👍

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Thank you MAA for comment. Have experienced the White Bear effect many times and now I have a name for it. I think this happens in golf too. When I stand on the tee box and think don't hit the ball in water, guess what happens. Thanks for the knowledge. Every little bit helps.

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😆 Have you tried, "Hit the ball in the water?" 😁

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Aug 16, 2022·edited Aug 16, 2022

This is true.

But when public health officials come by to check if your establishment is "papers please" and "masks while standing" is everyone going to comply again? Or when they send your kids home from school again? Or cancel sports/activities and close gyms?

Their power is based on falsehoods, but if we just go along with what they demand, then knowing they are lieing doesn't matter. Actions matter. We need to refuse to comply together.

This BS cannot be allowed to happen again this fall. At the first sign of it all coming back, we need to call out their lies. Simply refuse to act in ways that enable their falsehoods. Be peaceful, be truthful.

(They are implementing passports again in Germany, likely more strict this time. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/germany-announces-color-coded-vaccine-passport-system-similar-to-communist-chinas/)

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@boriquagato Here is a perfect video meme for you in Insta. You’re welcome. https://www.instagram.com/tv/ChMVAxdANk6/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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Outstanding. Just goes to prove my assertion...all cats are psychopaths.

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Psycho Cat, qu'est-ce que c'est😹

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D'accord... 🤷‍♂️

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I’ll be honest , when I first observed the blatant lies, censorship and propaganda as far back as at least April 2020 I really thought there must be some deviously clever psy op afoot. A sort of play within a play thing. I thought no one would be so obviously heavy handed/ham fisted with these Natasha and Boris strategies for control right? Boy did I ever give these technocratic apparatchiks too much credit. Well, jokes on me. These putz’s really are that arrogant and stupid. Its mind blowing .

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Or they realize they can't fool everyone, so their strategy is just to prod the sheep. It turns out that heavy handed stupidity is what works best, and what the sheep are most accustomed to from authority. Anyone who can pretend like authority using these simple ploys is authority.

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Absolutely.

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Is it just me or are those stupid "association graphic" things just a way of making a list without it being "a list", and all the shady Nazi shit that implies?

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Feels more like Index Librorum Prohibitorum to me, honestly.

Though that list has been around for quite a few centuries by now, the earliest attempt possibly being in the 9th century.

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multi axis design of experiment is not in the cdc/fda brand of 'science'.

they cannot even give an estimate of consumer risk, alpha and beta w/in their experiment design

they always use term 'study' which hides bias toward the sponsor directed conclusions.

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Until not so long ago, people on Biden's side of the aisle used to say that "the solution for speech you don't like is more speech."

Now their solution to speech they don't like is to tell us to STFU.

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Regarding doctors, some have speculated that those suffering from "Baffled Doctor Syndrome" are really dealing with dissociative disorder. As in "my life is about saving lives, it's not possible that what I did is killing my patients." Basically many doctors are now mentally ill.

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