I have really come around on this whole vaccine card/ID idea. At first I was pretty laissez-faire and against the vaccinated having to prove their status but now I think it should be mandatory for cultists to publicly self-identify.
Oh my. You’re right. It’s like we’re cattle. People don’t get what a bad idea this is. Though our Fitbits and Apple Watches track us. (Military told people to stop wearing Fitbits because they could be tracked.)
I know you're having a bit of fun. But I'm pathologically serious, so...did you see the study that Berenson tagged regarding vaccine-encoded spike protein found in the plasma of 11 of 13 study subjects? Kind of a big deal. One more bit of info to drop on the sheep to wake them from their kool-aide stupor.
From an email I sent to family members...
The Salk study showed that the spike protein itself was the cause of the weird, unexpected cardiovascular symptoms with coronavirus infection. It has the ability to damage the endothelial cells that line blood and lymph vessels.
They claimed the wild virus spike proteins "behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines", but they offered no proof.
I did read a convoluted explanation by a shill for Pharma that claimed the vaccine spike proteins were presented to the cell surface (imo, a recipe for autoimmunity) and did not circulate in the blood. Turns out, they were wrong.
Yes, this study is small, but it's very well done. 11 of 13 participants had detectable vaccine-encoded spike protein in their plasma for weeks. This needs to be investigated.
Unlike the virus itself, the mRNA nanoparticles don't need the ACE2 receptor to enter cells. They can enter any cell. They can also pass through the blood-brain barrier, which the virus cannot do.
Viral proteins/antigens can persist in the tissues for days, weeks, even months after an infection has cleared. Since the spike protein can cause damage to endothelial cells, imo, this may explain long covid symptoms. (As a person with two autoimmune conditions, I've never dismissed the syndrome). I've read and heard that some doctors/scientists believe this virus spike protein "sticks" to the tissues better and longer that other coronavirus spike proteins. They are concerned about the implications for the persistence of vaccine-encoded spike proteins in the body tissues. In other words, even if the vaccine-encoded spike protein is no longer detectable in the plasma, it may persist in the tissues for a very long time. Some think it might persist for years.
If I find any documentation on this particular concern, I will pass it along.
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It's as though half the country, half the world, joined a cult. They need to be deprogrammed.
People will resist the idea they've been played for fools. So drop the hammer. Hard.
i'm not sure this means what berenson is claiming it means.
so, yes, the spike protein in SARSCOV19 is nasty. it binds to vascular endothelial cells and can do some real damage.
the spike proteins in the mRNA vaccines used to elicit immune response are somewhat different as they have a transmembrane anchor and an s-1/s-2 cleavage site.
11 of 13 had detectable spike protein antigens, but this is what you want. this is the vaccines functional path: it exposes you to a nerfed spike protein to elicit immune response. (presumably nerfed, and this becomes a separate and interesting issue that has not been adequately explored IMO. so many folks have a nasty 12-36 hour response to the vaxx. this may be the cleaved protein/immune response.)
but the s1 being detected is not the wild spike protein. that would also have s2. it appeared in 3 patients of the 13.
the key text seems to be this:
"Interestingly, spike protein appears
in three of thirteen participants on average eight days after S1 is produced. The Simoa antigen
assays for the full spike protein are designed to require antibody binding to both the S1 and
S2 subunits for detection, resulting in a cleaved spike protein to be undetectable.
Additionally, spike protein concentrations in plasma of vaccinated participants may be below
our assay limit of detection. We hypothesize that the cellular immune responses triggered by
T-cell activation, which would occur days after the vaccination, lead to direct killing of cells
presenting spike protein and an additional release of spike into the blood stream
. The
mechanisms underlying release of free S1 and the subsequent detection of the intact spike
protein remain unclear and require further studies. "
this is a pretty reasonable supposition and would actually be a sign of vaccine efficacy (and highly sensitive assays). cov19 is so endemic at this point that having some in your cells is likely for many people. it's not nesc active or replicating, but if your body learns to aggressively destroy it, killing the cells it's in could release it to plasma. that's what you'd expect from an effective vaccine.
vax spike proteins were transient.
" After the second vaccine
dose, no S1 or spike was detectable, and both antigens remained undetectable through day 56"
the idea that sufficient s-1 spike to be clinically harmful was still present despite being undetectable with an assay this precise starts to feel a bit like unfalsifiable "invisible dragon" claims.
how would one even try to disprove it? it seems like an unfalsifiable assertion lacking in medical basis and demanding a proof of a negative akin to "prove that undetectable alien brainwaves did not just make you say that."
i'm not seeing a case that undetectable levels of s-1 pose risk. is there any actually substantiated evidence of such a thing?
(also note: long covid is likely a thing, but so is long flu, long pneumonia, and long 40 other things. any vascular or resp disease does that. long term neurological damage is an uncommon but well documented risk from flu. so, i think the question there gets a bit misframed. "does LC exist?" is not really the right question. rather, i think it's "is it any different or more dangerous than long flu or pneumonia. i have not seen evidence that it is. it's just being looked at and reported more.)
The Pharma companies and the FDA claim the "vaccines" stay local to the injection site and do not enter the blood stream. This study suggests that isn't true (or that it doesn't matter since the spike protein produced by the cells can enter the blood stream). The paper I read (can't remember who wrote it) claimed that the vaccine-encoded spike is presented on the cell membrane and cannot leave the cell and enter the blood stream. That doesn't appear to be true. While the T cell response may be the cause, it takes weeks for the antibody level to rise and clear the spikes.
They are injecting people with billions of strands of mRNA that will induce their cells to create trillions of copies of the spike for an undetermined time period...far more copies of the spike protein that most would ever encounter with natural infection. The normal entry point is the airway mucosal tissues. For most people, the infection is self-limited and confined to the airways and maybe the gut. I'm not convinced the nanoparticles stay in the muscle tissue. We don't know how far they can travel.
The mRNA approach seems a recipe for autoimmunity to me, especially since the normal early immune signals of infection are not present. How does the immune system differentiate self from non-self? How long does the spike generation go on? We don't have these answers.
The Salk study shows that the spike protein alone can damage the endothelium, so free-floating spike proteins in the plasma...whether wild type or home grown...are cause for concern...imo. At the very least, this issue deserves further investigation.
It's reassuring that the duration seems limited, but do we know that the immune system cleared them out? Since viral proteins persist in the tissues long after an infection has cleared, can we be sure the vaccine-encoded spike proteins won't as well? Shouldn’t we have had these answers before injecting hundreds of millions of people?
I come from a family of zebras, even my cat is a zebra, so I've learned through hard experience not to trust Pharma and doctors. I check and challenge everything. Blithe admonitions from "experts" not to worry my pretty, little head don’t convince me; and I’m not very impressed by credentials. Education and training are not a guarantor of intelligence or common sense.
The bizarre messaging, shaming, pressure, and coercion to take an experimental "vaccine" using a technology never before approved for human use for a virus with an IFR of 0.15% (0.03% for those 70 and under) does not inspire trust. As such, every claim made by these "experts" is suspect. Every time a study pokes a whole in the narrative, they scramble to explain it away…which raises alarm bells.
I agree, Long covid might be viral syndrome. It might also be long hypochondria syndrome for some people. I allow for the possibility that this virus has triggered autoimmunity in certain individuals. Viral infections are thought to trigger AI in genetically susceptible individuals. In light of the Salk finding, I also allow for the possibility that there are unique injuries caused by this virus without AI. While some who claim to have long covid may be attention seeking celebrity hypochondriacs, I don't think all are. It will be years before we have the answers.
Many medical doctors are dismissive of things they can't explain or don't understand. Unfortunately, clinical medicine has all but disappeared in the West, especially in the United States. A doctor will diagnose a test result and throw a drug at the problem, preferably one still on patent. If the drug doesn't work, the patient is somehow viewed as defective. We are the most tested, vaccinated, and medicated people in the world...and, yet, we are the most unhealthy.
Thank you for posting this. I also had been concerned about several of the points you bring up, such as whether pharma has proof that the vaccine decoded spike won't damage the epithelial layer, or if they are just hand waving away any concerns. Do you post on substack, gab or twitter? I'd like to read anything you might find.
Hi, Lee. I joined gab (@cmpalmer) in January after some of my information sources (like the bad cat) were kicked off Twitter. It's a colorful place, but I've found a lot of valuable information on the site. I also find Alex Berenson's twitter account very helpful...and his occasional snark an added benefit. FYI, he just started a substack this week. He has't used it much yet.
I did join Twitter a couple of days ago to respond to a ridiculous comment made by Leana Wen. I'm not sure how how much I'll use the account, though.
And, if you want to venture a little further down the rabbit hole, you might check out Health Impact News. (https://healthimpactnews.com)
Dr Tenpenny is a good source on gab. I took her seminar on the Twenty Mechanisms of Injury last week, which was informative and very distressing. I've also found L to be a good source of information on gab. Her language is a little spicy, but she has a broad range of topics.
Most of my posts are on Fakebook...targeted at friends and family members. I've started to post the same information on gab in the past couple weeks, so that's probably the best place to look. If the information is germane to an article here or on Berenson's substack, I'll post on substack as well.
WRT proof that the vaccine-encoded spike protein behaves differently in the body than the wild type, I haven't heard or read anything. They just claim the wild virus spike proteins "behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines" and provide no proof. It's amazing what you won't find when you don't look.
I have a chemistry background, but I moved into medical and technical writing after several years. It's always been my dream to inflict my opinion on others through the written word; but, alas, I don't have a substack account. :)
no no and no...if I am resigned to drive and not be "allowed" to enter certain venues, so be it. I will adapt and still be happy.
And they kept saying it was just another conspiracy theory...
I have really come around on this whole vaccine card/ID idea. At first I was pretty laissez-faire and against the vaccinated having to prove their status but now I think it should be mandatory for cultists to publicly self-identify.
I think that’s what masks are for. Pull out a whisker if I’m wrong.
Oh my. You’re right. It’s like we’re cattle. People don’t get what a bad idea this is. Though our Fitbits and Apple Watches track us. (Military told people to stop wearing Fitbits because they could be tracked.)
Cattle definition:
"large ruminant animals with horns and cloven hoofs, domesticated for meat or milk, or as beasts of burden; cows and oxen."
You may have a look at the picture again. I do not think it matches your fears, although in essence it does not change much.
I know you're having a bit of fun. But I'm pathologically serious, so...did you see the study that Berenson tagged regarding vaccine-encoded spike protein found in the plasma of 11 of 13 study subjects? Kind of a big deal. One more bit of info to drop on the sheep to wake them from their kool-aide stupor.
From an email I sent to family members...
The Salk study showed that the spike protein itself was the cause of the weird, unexpected cardiovascular symptoms with coronavirus infection. It has the ability to damage the endothelial cells that line blood and lymph vessels.
They claimed the wild virus spike proteins "behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines", but they offered no proof.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-novel-coronavirus-spike-protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/
I did read a convoluted explanation by a shill for Pharma that claimed the vaccine spike proteins were presented to the cell surface (imo, a recipe for autoimmunity) and did not circulate in the blood. Turns out, they were wrong.
Yes, this study is small, but it's very well done. 11 of 13 participants had detectable vaccine-encoded spike protein in their plasma for weeks. This needs to be investigated.
https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciab465/6279075
Unlike the virus itself, the mRNA nanoparticles don't need the ACE2 receptor to enter cells. They can enter any cell. They can also pass through the blood-brain barrier, which the virus cannot do.
Viral proteins/antigens can persist in the tissues for days, weeks, even months after an infection has cleared. Since the spike protein can cause damage to endothelial cells, imo, this may explain long covid symptoms. (As a person with two autoimmune conditions, I've never dismissed the syndrome). I've read and heard that some doctors/scientists believe this virus spike protein "sticks" to the tissues better and longer that other coronavirus spike proteins. They are concerned about the implications for the persistence of vaccine-encoded spike proteins in the body tissues. In other words, even if the vaccine-encoded spike protein is no longer detectable in the plasma, it may persist in the tissues for a very long time. Some think it might persist for years.
If I find any documentation on this particular concern, I will pass it along.
*****************************
It's as though half the country, half the world, joined a cult. They need to be deprogrammed.
People will resist the idea they've been played for fools. So drop the hammer. Hard.
i'm not sure this means what berenson is claiming it means.
so, yes, the spike protein in SARSCOV19 is nasty. it binds to vascular endothelial cells and can do some real damage.
the spike proteins in the mRNA vaccines used to elicit immune response are somewhat different as they have a transmembrane anchor and an s-1/s-2 cleavage site.
11 of 13 had detectable spike protein antigens, but this is what you want. this is the vaccines functional path: it exposes you to a nerfed spike protein to elicit immune response. (presumably nerfed, and this becomes a separate and interesting issue that has not been adequately explored IMO. so many folks have a nasty 12-36 hour response to the vaxx. this may be the cleaved protein/immune response.)
but the s1 being detected is not the wild spike protein. that would also have s2. it appeared in 3 patients of the 13.
the key text seems to be this:
"Interestingly, spike protein appears
in three of thirteen participants on average eight days after S1 is produced. The Simoa antigen
assays for the full spike protein are designed to require antibody binding to both the S1 and
S2 subunits for detection, resulting in a cleaved spike protein to be undetectable.
Additionally, spike protein concentrations in plasma of vaccinated participants may be below
our assay limit of detection. We hypothesize that the cellular immune responses triggered by
T-cell activation, which would occur days after the vaccination, lead to direct killing of cells
presenting spike protein and an additional release of spike into the blood stream
. The
mechanisms underlying release of free S1 and the subsequent detection of the intact spike
protein remain unclear and require further studies. "
this is a pretty reasonable supposition and would actually be a sign of vaccine efficacy (and highly sensitive assays). cov19 is so endemic at this point that having some in your cells is likely for many people. it's not nesc active or replicating, but if your body learns to aggressively destroy it, killing the cells it's in could release it to plasma. that's what you'd expect from an effective vaccine.
vax spike proteins were transient.
" After the second vaccine
dose, no S1 or spike was detectable, and both antigens remained undetectable through day 56"
the idea that sufficient s-1 spike to be clinically harmful was still present despite being undetectable with an assay this precise starts to feel a bit like unfalsifiable "invisible dragon" claims.
how would one even try to disprove it? it seems like an unfalsifiable assertion lacking in medical basis and demanding a proof of a negative akin to "prove that undetectable alien brainwaves did not just make you say that."
i'm not seeing a case that undetectable levels of s-1 pose risk. is there any actually substantiated evidence of such a thing?
(also note: long covid is likely a thing, but so is long flu, long pneumonia, and long 40 other things. any vascular or resp disease does that. long term neurological damage is an uncommon but well documented risk from flu. so, i think the question there gets a bit misframed. "does LC exist?" is not really the right question. rather, i think it's "is it any different or more dangerous than long flu or pneumonia. i have not seen evidence that it is. it's just being looked at and reported more.)
The Pharma companies and the FDA claim the "vaccines" stay local to the injection site and do not enter the blood stream. This study suggests that isn't true (or that it doesn't matter since the spike protein produced by the cells can enter the blood stream). The paper I read (can't remember who wrote it) claimed that the vaccine-encoded spike is presented on the cell membrane and cannot leave the cell and enter the blood stream. That doesn't appear to be true. While the T cell response may be the cause, it takes weeks for the antibody level to rise and clear the spikes.
They are injecting people with billions of strands of mRNA that will induce their cells to create trillions of copies of the spike for an undetermined time period...far more copies of the spike protein that most would ever encounter with natural infection. The normal entry point is the airway mucosal tissues. For most people, the infection is self-limited and confined to the airways and maybe the gut. I'm not convinced the nanoparticles stay in the muscle tissue. We don't know how far they can travel.
The mRNA approach seems a recipe for autoimmunity to me, especially since the normal early immune signals of infection are not present. How does the immune system differentiate self from non-self? How long does the spike generation go on? We don't have these answers.
The Salk study shows that the spike protein alone can damage the endothelium, so free-floating spike proteins in the plasma...whether wild type or home grown...are cause for concern...imo. At the very least, this issue deserves further investigation.
It's reassuring that the duration seems limited, but do we know that the immune system cleared them out? Since viral proteins persist in the tissues long after an infection has cleared, can we be sure the vaccine-encoded spike proteins won't as well? Shouldn’t we have had these answers before injecting hundreds of millions of people?
I come from a family of zebras, even my cat is a zebra, so I've learned through hard experience not to trust Pharma and doctors. I check and challenge everything. Blithe admonitions from "experts" not to worry my pretty, little head don’t convince me; and I’m not very impressed by credentials. Education and training are not a guarantor of intelligence or common sense.
The bizarre messaging, shaming, pressure, and coercion to take an experimental "vaccine" using a technology never before approved for human use for a virus with an IFR of 0.15% (0.03% for those 70 and under) does not inspire trust. As such, every claim made by these "experts" is suspect. Every time a study pokes a whole in the narrative, they scramble to explain it away…which raises alarm bells.
I agree, Long covid might be viral syndrome. It might also be long hypochondria syndrome for some people. I allow for the possibility that this virus has triggered autoimmunity in certain individuals. Viral infections are thought to trigger AI in genetically susceptible individuals. In light of the Salk finding, I also allow for the possibility that there are unique injuries caused by this virus without AI. While some who claim to have long covid may be attention seeking celebrity hypochondriacs, I don't think all are. It will be years before we have the answers.
Many medical doctors are dismissive of things they can't explain or don't understand. Unfortunately, clinical medicine has all but disappeared in the West, especially in the United States. A doctor will diagnose a test result and throw a drug at the problem, preferably one still on patent. If the drug doesn't work, the patient is somehow viewed as defective. We are the most tested, vaccinated, and medicated people in the world...and, yet, we are the most unhealthy.
Thanks for the response, btw. I really appreciate your analysis and insight during this crazy time.
Thank you for posting this. I also had been concerned about several of the points you bring up, such as whether pharma has proof that the vaccine decoded spike won't damage the epithelial layer, or if they are just hand waving away any concerns. Do you post on substack, gab or twitter? I'd like to read anything you might find.
Hi, Lee. I joined gab (@cmpalmer) in January after some of my information sources (like the bad cat) were kicked off Twitter. It's a colorful place, but I've found a lot of valuable information on the site. I also find Alex Berenson's twitter account very helpful...and his occasional snark an added benefit. FYI, he just started a substack this week. He has't used it much yet.
I did join Twitter a couple of days ago to respond to a ridiculous comment made by Leana Wen. I'm not sure how how much I'll use the account, though.
I recommend The Defender by the Children's Health Defense. They have lots of great information. (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/)
And, if you want to venture a little further down the rabbit hole, you might check out Health Impact News. (https://healthimpactnews.com)
Dr Tenpenny is a good source on gab. I took her seminar on the Twenty Mechanisms of Injury last week, which was informative and very distressing. I've also found L to be a good source of information on gab. Her language is a little spicy, but she has a broad range of topics.
Most of my posts are on Fakebook...targeted at friends and family members. I've started to post the same information on gab in the past couple weeks, so that's probably the best place to look. If the information is germane to an article here or on Berenson's substack, I'll post on substack as well.
WRT proof that the vaccine-encoded spike protein behaves differently in the body than the wild type, I haven't heard or read anything. They just claim the wild virus spike proteins "behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines" and provide no proof. It's amazing what you won't find when you don't look.
I have a chemistry background, but I moved into medical and technical writing after several years. It's always been my dream to inflict my opinion on others through the written word; but, alas, I don't have a substack account. :)
Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
The best bit of info in this is that Berenson started a Substack.
#WeAreSoScrewed
Would be interesting if it backfired and made the wearers targets. Might be a good SciFi film.