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Even my boosted friends no longer argue that it has any effect on stopping infection, likely because they're all sick right now. However, they're still clinging to the "less sick than we would be" argument, and I can't really blame them, because the side effects they experienced with the shots were pretty crappy and they need to have something to show for it besides subclinical heart damage and messed up periods.

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The issue about "less sick" is one of those imponderables. Given that many people under 50 had mild cases anyway, there is no way to prove the negative. Every time I see a report of a 29 year old dying after infection with the statement no comorbidities, I simple wonder why. After all this time we still don't know why some are very susceptible while some others never even get ill despite exposure. Terrible lack of follow-up by our experts.

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And we don't know whether than 29-year-old was vaxxed...

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I agree. It's all just trying to instill fear.

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While I had intended to get double-dosed pfizer in the spring, I only got the first shot, in mid-April. I'm 60, slim, in excellent health, not on any meds, exercise (but not a nut about it). I got covid in mid-July. I felt sick for a week, lost my sense of smell (returning, thankfully), and had a fever for about 4 days.

For a while I thought that my shot had helped me. Now I don't feel so sure.

A very healthy 42 year old friend got covid a year ago and had mild symptoms. Then he got 2 doses of pfizer in the spring. Last week he got a booster, and probably close to the same day, got covid again, likely omicron. He was far sicker the second time, despite it being highly likely he got omicron. (Lives in Boston). I suspect the booster is probably what made his ordeal worse due to short-term immune suppression. Fortunately he's OK, but I'd say he's the poster child for not getting boosted during an infection wave.

Cheers,

Kim G

Roma Sur, Mexico City (also Boston, MA)

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I know many people asking themselves the same exact question............ Particularly now that so many people they know have been vaccinated and had symptomatic illness

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"Roma Sur, Mexico City (also Boston, MA)" - what is the difference?

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Yep, that's what I'm seeing as well. They know that the vaxx doesn't prevent transmission or infection particularly from Delta and Omicron but insist on the boosters. It's complete incongruity. I've witnessed these discussions numerous times in the past week (socal) and it's always in a group dynamic so there's reinforcement amongst each other. This is the mass psychosis effect that's been written about recently in full action.

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The truth as beauty is on the eye of the beholder, and there is no way to argue against the fanatics imprinted with the Vaccines sanctity.

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My 28 year old healthy and skinny Nephew got three shots in 8 months. His booster was last Saturday and he was in bed, knocked on his butt. By Monday he felt better only to be sick on Wednesday and tested positive for COVID. Now imagine being a healthy 28 year old who has almost zero risk of hospitalization from the RONA, assuming all the longterm risk of MRNA and still getting the virus. If that is not a terrible outcome for humanity and yet it has happend all across the globe. Why would we expect people to think prior to getting the booster when they did not think, do their own homework, research and understand their true risk profile prior to starting their COVID sacramental jabs???

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The argument I heard recently is that "you don't ask what the secret herbs and spices are in KFC chicken." UNBELIEVABLE. Don't even get me started on comparing something natural that is ingested, filtered through our digestive system and then pooped out (sorry, couldn't think of a better word), to something synthetic that is literally shot into our bodies and stays there for months, years, or possibly the rest of our lives. I just can't believe that people are still blindly marching down for these shots.

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i find that one a particularly dishonest framing.

the issue many have with the vaccines is not that we do not know what is in them, it's that we DO know what is in them.

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And, the government and the entirety of the medical community would be hiding all the bad consequences that arise from high-fat diets as they encourage us to eat at KFC.

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High fat diet per se is not the problem (see keto), the problem is the type of fat used at KFC and the like, and the high heat applied to that fat.

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Seed oils are poison and in almost all prepared phoods in the middle of the grocery store

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Ok ok, but you get the thrust of my comment. ;-)

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and no one is trying to make foie gras of my liver by force feeding me KFC

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Completely agree....I have friends who will line up for booster 3, 4, 5, whenever available without question. At 53 years old without any comorbidities the chance of me dying is .3, another way to say it is I am closer to 0 than 1%. Now if I juice my immune system with daily Quercetin, zinc, vit C, and the great Vit D my risk is even lower. If I have a plan for when I get the virus such as doubling vitamins, listerine, nasal solution, room ventilation and of course Ivermectin my risk is almost completely gone. Now of course you can't eliminate all risk with anything but at least I know my COVID death risk vs. Not knowing the longterm risk of the jabs, which nobody knows but messing with you natural cellular health is dangerous.

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I'm on the same page. Nearly 60 but healthy, zero comorbidities, etc. Using the risk calculator below, I discovered that my risk of dying from a car accident was SIX TIMES greater than dying from the vid. Derp.

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator

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I took that test last summer and it showed the jabs were more risky for me than mingling about the bars with strange and interesting people.

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I use the same type of calculation to assess whether I should undergo the risks of colonoscopy. And as 58 yo man "they" say I should do so annually (or maybe it's even more often by now). Nope, I'll pass.

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You should have one when you turn 50 (or 58 if you haven't already). If you have no polyps or other symptoms, it's every 10 years. Every 2-3 if you do. Anyone who tells you 'annually' is woefully misinformed, and no reputable GI doc will tell you otherwise.

I'll be honest here. Colonoscopies are actually no big deal when done by a decent GI doc; it's the prep that sucks and it really, really sucks. However, as an oncology nurse I've taken care of plenty of people with colon cancer, and it's a horrible, miserable, no-good disease to suffer. Pooping yourself to exhaustion once every few years is a really small price to pay (I say this as an every 2-3 year colonoscopy person myself). Please, if not for yourself but for those who love you, *at least* get an initial test and find out your risk. Please.

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Who is telling you to do so annually? That is ridiculous!

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There is a good poop test for colon cancer. That's what I do annually.

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It can only be used if you haven't had polyps previously removed. Which doesn't make sense to me at all.

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If you've had polyps removed previously you have a known risk, even if it's small. The home test can give false negatives, which for those with no known risk isn't necessarily a big deal, but for those with known risk can end up being deadly. It's not a matter of whether the test would work, but the relative risk of a false negative. Just fyi. :)

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Holy fck. The KFC answer?! As if we're MANDATED to eat at KFC, as if KFC is being touted as mankind's savior, as if once we eat at KFC we'll need to eat at KFC every 6 or 3 or 1 month in perpetuity. Good freaking God, the stupidity and pathetic critical thinking skills of so many people is astonishing.

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“If everyone would just eat at KFC, we could cure obesity.“

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🤣😂. Hilarious

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Awesome observation. Yeah, I couldn't believe that people would fall for such a ludicrous comparison!

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Those people vote, drive, and have children!

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They're not injecting those secret herbs and spices into our bodies.

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My older brother, double-jabbed and boosted, insists that he did the research. I was dumfounded. No, brother, you didn't...'cause if you did, you would never have taken the first injection. I tried to talk him out of the booster at Thanksgiving but was unsuccessful. I'm hopeful that this Omicron wave will break the spell.

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We all have family and friends that have bet their lives on these mRNA spike protein injections and are now unable to even accept the fact that the spike protein on its own is almost entirely responsible for the damage to the cardiovascular system and other organs, when they look at you in fearful denial. With every new booster shot more damage is done to virtually all the bodies organs and as they accumulate, until the body is no longer capable of repairing itself and you die. People that die quickly from heart failure may be the lucky ones. https://theagingviking.substack.com/p/arent-shar-peis-adorable

“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle, a viral immunologist and associate professor at University of Guelph, Ontario. “We thought the spike protein was a great target antigen, we never knew the spike protein itself was a toxin and was a pathogenic protein. So by vaccinating people we are inadvertently inoculating them with a toxin.”

How can you not be a conspiracy nut when you now know they know the damage that poison spike proteins are doing, as your data clearly shows, and they even push harder to inject everyone

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I'm betting we all have family and friends who are triple-vaxxed and fairly sick with covid right now....but who eagerly and confidently tell you, "But it would have been so much worse without the vax!" 🤯 How does one even begin to try to convince them otherwise??

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You say, "If I had gotten the vaxx I'd be dead right now" and when they say, incredulously, "HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW THAT??", you reply, "The same way YOU seem to know that you would be so much worse without the vax."

Use their own stupid, unfalsifiable argument *against* them.

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Excellent strategy 🤣

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“We made a big mistake. We didn’t realize it until now,” said Byram Bridle..."

Bullshit. That's not an explanation, it's an alibi.

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In fairness he was generously referring to the collective “we”. He was never on board..

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I'm not sure why Byram Bridle used "we". He's one of the good guys. He was able to secure the Pfizer study from the Japanese Health Agency that showed the LNPs travel all over the body and accumulate in the organs. He's been attacked and maligned.

https://drbyrambridle.com

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Is there a reason that people don't understand (i know, i know this isn't "real" vaccine" but back to my point. Do people NOT understand that EVERY year we get a new flu "vaccine" (cough, cough) and their Covid VAXX was last years and the boosters are last years not the new variant which is what the flu is every year. How did so many people lose their critical thinking skills in the last 20 months????

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I know a lot of people who didn't care for the flu vaccine that suddenly care about yearly (3-4 times) boosters. It's propaganda. I once compared it to getting a new iPhone, lining up for your favorite brand. Last month, Jack Posobiec compared it to pathological consumerism.

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Lol. They never had them. This is a reveal. What they had were various societal and familial constructs propping them up. Covid pulled the rug. What you see is what you get.

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Every article I read by you, Berenson and Mercola validates that our personal family response to this Scamdemic has been dead on correct. I hope to live long enough to see the perpetrators, their flunkies and stooges brought to justice for what they have done to mankind out of sheer stupidity and greed. Hanging is too good for all of them. Here’s some Christmas music prepared for them specifically. https://youtu.be/80k4qakPrqA

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Math, as we all now know, is racist. That's why.

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U.K. keeps boosting and cases just keep rising. Well done sage and Boris😂😂

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Why BoJo the Bozo hasn't been strung up by his toes by now is beyond me.

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‘… prior to now, getting vaccinated in the middle of peak disease season was generally not recommended.‘

I wonder if this is also a factor? This year a big push for people to get ‘flu shots, because the ‘experts’ opined that since ‘flu was absent last year it might come back with a vengeance this year… but we got Omicron instead so another FAIL.

This Winter season many people have had in some cases both mRNA doses, or their second dose, then a ‘flu shot… then a booster, (and over in the USA the VaxBorg units are getting their fourth) all within a period if a couple of months.

It must be doing wonders for people’s immune systems particularly those in elderly and/or poor health already struggling.

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If they admit that one vaccine is better than another, then it would be logical to ask if one vaccine is better than nothing.

Much better to just mix and match them all and completely destroy any chance at all of being able to ask the wrong questions…. Much like giving the shot to the original control group because it was the “ethical” thing to do.

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Adolf Hitler would have planned a great pandemic. He wrote in Mein Kampf, “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”

A big enough lie is, ‘this corona virus will kill you and you all need to be vaccinated to stop it.’

Hitler wrote, “ The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”

You can’t give the masses all the information; in fact you keep it very small so that they can retain the main points. Don’t give many details about the virus and don’t say much about the vaccine so people won’t be confused. Make sure the Medical Establishment gives as little information as possible and never let them answer questions. Make sure the virus does not kill that many people otherwise you won’t be able to sell the vaccine.

The masses will forget what was said a few weeks ago like, “We will flatten the curve in two weeks.” “We will not implement a vaccine passport.” “The vaccine is totally safe.” “Two shots are all that is necessary.” “This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

Make sure your slogans harp on the dangers of the virus and the effective vaccine. Harp on about wearing masks and being afraid of contact with others.

Hitler wrote, “All Propaganda has to be popular and has to accommodate itself to the comprehension of the least intelligent of those whom it seeks to reach.”

It will be popular if people think that the virus is dangerous and vaccines and mask wearing and being afraid of contact is the right and proper thing to do for your-self and to protect others. That is simple enough that all can understand it.

Hitler wrote, “As soon as by one’s own propaganda even a glimpse of right on the other side is admitted, the cause for doubting one’s own right is laid.”

Broadcast your slogans constantly on the TV, radio, newspaper, and the Internet but don’t allow any opposing idea to appear in broadcast on the same. Make sure that all your doctors; health professionals, politicians, tech community, and media people do not question your propaganda so that there is no doubt laid onto the people.

Fire any doctor or media person who speaks against your slogans. Cancel any information on the Internet that doesn’t support your message.

Hitler said, “How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.”

When you get all the propaganda in place everyone will fall in line, as they will not be able to think outside of what you have presented. They will talk amongst themselves and debate a little about the things the doctors, health professionals, politicians, tech community, and media people are doing to protect the nation from this virus’s terrible threat. They won’t be able to think of any reason to question this belief and they won’t get any good feedback from another non-thinker on any virus issue. Those who are carrying the message properly will shun anyone who questions the propaganda.

Hitler wrote, “It Is Always More Difficult To Fight Against Faith Than Against Knowledge.”

After the masses believe your propaganda they will carry the message forward and your job is much easier. You just have to instil more fear with each succeeding variation of your virus and the people will respond exactly like you want them to. With their faith they will not be able to learn any new knowledge that they see if any has been able to get past your censure. The masses will censure themselves.

https://nikontim.substack.com/p/planning-a-pandemic?justPublished=true

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We saw the same early this year with the initial roll-out of the injections. Back then this was dismissed, cases were rising because of delta. Total coincidence that it happend simultaneously with the roll-out.

Now they will say it is because of omicron. Total coincidence that it happend simultaneously with the roll-out.

And then when the next wave of injections and cases go together they will blame it on yet another variant. And you know what, I am certain these people truly think this is the case.

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Of course none of this is about stopping spread or indeed "reducing" or slowing the spread. That is just one of the pandemicists' ever-changing cast of rhetorical talking points, which doesn't stand up to about 30 seconds logical scrutiny.

If omicron was lab made, it seems like the idea was to increase the spread to incentivize boosters and put pressure on the unvaxxed. Just because it is mild does not mean headlines can't be generated about the unvaxxed putting pressure on hospital capacity. Isn't it funny how the MSM and pols never ever moot the idea of simply triaging the unvaxxed out of the ICU? As if that was somehow more prejudicial to their rights than vaccine mandates and compulsion, and therefore "unthinkable" while the latter are "reasonable." Because of course none of this is about health.

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I have been recommending a book called "Dissolving Illusions" which is about the history of vaccines and contagious diseases. It is not that "dense" a read, and pretty much destroyed everything I had been taught or believed about vaccination. In every chart they showed, the infection rate rose after vaccination. And these were the old-fashioned ones. I can't imagine that these are any different and probably worse. And it's a good thing I did lots of research on this topic as I discovered each kind of shot available in this country had at least one substance in it that I was allergic to. I'm told I should take it anyways. Yeah, that sounded like real good advice.

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Hey, thanks for the recommendation. Just found it as pdf and started reading right away. Vaccines are good was always the tagline I heard everywhere, but now, I'm not so sure...

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This entire charade was an EUA of whatever form of authoritarianism said country wishes to impose.

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What's your take on Novavax? It seemed promising a few months back based on its more conventional technology, but it's not the mRNA golden boy of the US so not much seems to have come of it.

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in general, i would be more inclined to trust a vaccine made from actual virus, especially in terms of ability to generate durable, sterilizing immunity.

that said, i have not really looked at the data in any depth and so do not have a specific take at this point.

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It targets the Wuhan spike.

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What about the one (yes I saw Berenson's article on the small sample size) of the Army one? It didn't mention it was an mRNA one. Thoughts?

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Steve Kirsch thought they were a good addition to the arsenal. I am still wondering why anyone would need to be immunised against something with a negligible IFR which remains the same after two years.

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He really did not recommend it until there was a lot more testing.

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The best vax is Natural Immunity! Do not comply. Resist!

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Farm-grown, conventional. Who can forget the visits to the countryside in harvest season, to pick the freshest spike proteins off of the moth cells? All through the winter, auntie and grandma would knit them onto the subunit particles...

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Apparently it uses an adjuvant "made from tree bark".

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Yes, but if you forgot to stock up, root beer from the grocery store will do in a pinch.

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Dec 26, 2021·edited Dec 28, 2021

Dr Ryan Cole said it will have the same OAS issue as the others. My non expert thoughts…now the spike with Omicron is so different, it’s hard to believe it would work well at all. Less initial side effects though if someone was forced to take one.

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I mean, unless we ever deal with the cultural problems surrounding COVID vaccination it's a moot point for me.

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Forced?

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Forced/coerced/threatened I will not get one no matter what, but I can afford to lose my job if it comes to that. Others may not be able to.

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It is for most people too much to admit they might have done the biggest mistake in their lives and that mistake might actually kill or hurt them seriously. They are already three shots deep committed.

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